Madden 10: Top 10 "Athletes"
by ProfessorBigelow on May 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT
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PrintProfessorBigelow's Note: Thanks to larryallenseawolf for getting this link up in the Nuggets this morning; hugs and hand-pounds all around for diving on this, but because of the multitude of Madden-freaks that visit this site, it definately deserves its own post...
Two days ago, EA Sports released the stats for the top 10 players by position in the upcoming "Madden 10" video game. When looking at the list, there are the ones we expect (P. Manning and Brady at the top of the QB list), and those we expect, but are still surprised about (Fitzgerald is number one, not surprising; but the 99 in four of the six WR categories, and a 98 in another is just unreal). Nothing should really surprise us here; it should reflect the best players from last season, which it does.
Which leads us to the first question I thought of when seeing this list, and what you should be thinking now; any 49ers on the lists? But of course! Who else but Bamm Bamm himself, and the cornerstone of our offense, Mr. Frank Gore. P. Willie is 5th on the top ten list of all defensive players, even though he is a 98 overall (there were four players tied at 99 - Nnamdi Asomugha, Albert Haynesworth, Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu), and Gore is 8th on the running backs list with a 91 overall rating (behind Peterson, Turner, LT, Westbrook, DeAngelo Williams, Clinton Portis, and Steven Jackson).
So the question, or discussion, I pose to you this afternoon Nation, is what do you think of these top-ten athletes according to Madden? Are Gore and Willis properly represented on these lists? Is there anyone that has been unfairly left off the list/rated too highly (be it 49er or other player)?
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First thought..
I love that the picture shown for running bakc sis Walt Harris stuffing AP.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions
with that said...
I think Gore got shafted in the “carry” department. I mean, sure he fumbles every now and again but a 72?
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
That may be "CAtch", I only say this because it is a WR Rating shown as well.
However if it is catch, Frank really got shafted.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on May 28, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It might be both...
“Carry” for RB “Catch” for WR. Either way, I think he got played.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yea that's right
It says it on the bottom of the page lol
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i think
calvin johnson is underrated. he should be ranked a little higher than that.
49er faithful since July 11, 1985
Calvin Johnson should be top 3, I agree.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on May 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know...
about top 3. Fitz at one and A. Johnson at two is spot on, but I’d argue Moss or Marshall for three and four (in either order) and C. Johnson rounding out the Top 5.
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
My first thought for wide receiver,
Was that Calvin got screwed. The guy was top 5 in nearly every leading category for wide receivers on a team that didn’t win a game? Let’s be real. You gotta be damn good if you are the only player on your team.
by BucksForever on May 29, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Gore
Can’t believe AP and Turner both have significantly higher “trucking” ratings than Gore. Heck, I can’t believe AP has one point lower in that category than Jacobs.
Agreed
Gore was a “Power Back” last year in Madden, now he gets no love?
by Smithisstilltheanswer on May 28, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish they had elaborated on all the positions,
rather than just the “Skill Positions”.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on May 28, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions
Top LB
We got the top LB in Madden 10. They get him a 55 in Man Coverage. They did see the interception he got and ran back for a touchdown. The guy is a beast.
Cream
The pick that came on a tipped ball that hung in the air for an eternity before falling into Willis' hands?
Yeah, that sure does have a whole lot to do with man coverage, amirite?
no you are wrong..
..Chriscream is right, and Willis #’s should be higher than they are.
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 28, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Bamm Bamm 100 overall rating
MADDEN BRAZZZ GIT R DONE!
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
by 49erLou on May 28, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm wrong? Based on what?
He’s throwing out claims that Willis is a super cover guy, when in fact, he’s never even asked to cover anyone. The whole reason that he’s such a beast is that the defensive scheme allows hang out in the middle of the field and play the ball. Asking Willis to cover a TE is a complete waste of his talents.
Furthermore, the only defense to his claim that Willis should have a higher Man Coverage rating is the example of a play on which Willis was playing zone. So…what in the world are you basing this claim off of, exactly?
well...
..I personally feel MR. Willis can go toe to toe With and TE, so his coverage skilkls are undfermined, I know thats my opinion, are you sure you even like P Willy?
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 28, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions
and there is no Rb ion the league..
..that can fool Willis!
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 28, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
skilkls are undfermined
lol what? are you drunk man?
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
Yeah Josh...
that was a rough series of posts right there…
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on May 29, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Sorry..I may have had a little buzz going..
..it does wonders for my lysdexia..lol
Skills undermined. I do think he can cover better than he is given credit for.
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 29, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Who cares?
He doesn’t need to cover.
We should be arguing about the speed rating.
by SportsChicken on May 29, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
90
is pretty good.. that was the first thing I looked at, but 90..I wouldn’t complain if they gave him more but not less.
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 29, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Patrick Willis.
He’s beast. But not because he can cover people.
Would you accuse a Colts fan of not liking Peyton Manning because they believe him to be slow and a non-threat outside of the pocket? It’s okay to admit that your favorite superstar is human…and has areas of his games that aren’t as good as others. That doesn’t make the guy any less awesome at what he DOES to well – which, in the case of Willis, would be reading plays, chasing people down, and knocking their teeth out.
Look, it’s all a pointless argument, as it’s only a videogame. However, you have to keep in mind that a 55 man coverage rating (especially in this “revised” rating system) is pretty damned good for a linebacker. You can find safeties and probably even some corners in the game that have sub-65 man coverage ratings. Complaining that the best-rated linebacker in the game has a less-than-90 stat is a little bit much.
If there is issue to be taken with an underrated niner, I would think it would be Frank Gore’s 72 catch rating – which is the lowest of the listed backs. Frank’s hands are as good as anyone’s on the team, in my opinion. Wide Receivers included.
This.
Willis is playing a read-react position that is almost NEVER asked to cover anyone one-on-one.
Dude came up with a pick for a td..
..so what if he isn’t asked to cover, I think he is more versatile than anyone is giving him credit for, and i expect more picks from Willis.
by Josh G and the Shaun Hill band wagon on May 29, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
He about died on that play.
I was at that game and it was pretty sad to see him run out of gas like that, lol.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on May 30, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how it's sad that he ran out of gas.
he ran that thing back 86 yards, probably more if you factor in all the zig-zagging he did. A lot of running for a LB.
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
Picks.
Picks aren’t always about coverage, ESPECIALLY if you’re talking about Man coverage. Willis could have just been in the right place at the right time. Also, I don’t see how returning the pick for a TD has anything to do with his man-coverage rating, which is what people are arguing here.
All
QB’s: I dont know about palmer, I know how good he has been in the past but we didnt get to see much of him last year-I think matt ryan or eli manning could also take his spot
RB’s: no love for chris johnson? I know this is a tough list, but he was one of the most outstanding rb’s last year so I dont know if he cracks top ten bu still..
WR’s:I think they got this pretty accurate, but agree that Calvin Johnson should be closer to around #4
TE:Its hard to rate TE’s b/c they are mostly out ofthe spotlight, but I think when healthy that Gates is the best in the nfl, either way no bigee (hopefully vd can finally breakthrough in this relatively weak list)
DEF:can’t really complain with this list either w/P.will taking best LB, if I would change anything I would consider Bob Sanders (again, someone always hurt so no bigee)
-Just so excited for madden and playin w/crabtree, hopefully an improved shaun hill and laying the smackdown with BAMBAM
by larryallenseawolf on May 28, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions
James Harrison
From the Steelers Should be in the top 10 now.
49ers and TOOL live, my personal Heaven!!!
I think Gore's ranking is where it should be.
Hopefully it will be better next year but he has had drop off’s. Even though we know it isn’t his fault.
49ers and TOOL live, my personal Heaven!!!
they changed the ratings
To make the higher players better. It says Boldin and Fitzgerald are 89 speed so P-Willy is still fast.
I heard that
But Troy Polamalu has a 93 speed!
I don’t remember how fast his 40 was, but I doubt it was much faster than 4.38
by SportsChicken on May 29, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think Romo should even be on that list of QB’s, Hill should be ranked higher than Romo, just because of the receivers they’ve had to play with.
Gore is definitely better than a 72 in carrying, and Thomas Jones shouldn’t be on that list, but Ronnie Brown should be on that list
Calvin Johnson is definitely better thank Roddy White and if anything Andre Johnson should be at least tied for first, even though in my opinion he is the best WR in the league
Dallas Clark and Antonio Gates are both much better than Jason Witten, in my opinion anyway
For the defense the only guy I think should have gotten onto the list is Kirk Morrison of the Raiders, he’s definitely one of the better LB’s in the league
one question though…what happened to special teams?
Romo – I would at least put him higher than McNabb
Thomas Jones – Led the AFC in rushing, that deserves a top-ten spot
Don’t under-estimate Roddy White, and Fitz is number one, by far, after last season (though I think his individual stats are over-inflated), though I agree about Andre Johnson being the man.
Witten is Mr. Reliable, always good for 6-10 yards.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on May 28, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks good to me. I’d like to think that Staley has a chance to make it into that category as an LT soon and maybe Crabtree at WR (or Morgan… hell, I don’t care who becomes a No. 1 wideout so long as we have one).
Maybe the best argument for someone snubbed would be Heitmann? From what I’ve read, it sure sounds like 49er coaches thought he played like a top 10 center last season.
Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...
by Smoke on the Water on May 28, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions
all around back
for about two weeks at one point last season, there was all sorts of talk about frank gore being the best all around back in the league. Ive always lıked hım more than jackson. however, gore in the video game will be far more effective than jackson, 86 speed is SLOW for rb
Jackson's...
… always been slow. For a RB, you don’t need top-end speed. What matters is burst and how fast you get to your top speed. Jackson used to have no problem being one of the best in that regard. It is to be seen if he still has that same burst/acceleration, though.
I'd say a 95 max for Troy Polamalu
Good DB but vastly overrated and tends to miss tackles because he only seems to do bump tackles. I guess most of the 99 rating is based on his hair. Also isn’t Matt Cassel rated the same or higher as Carson Palmer? I’ve quit paying attention to Madden ratings cause they are so offskew. Such as the continual high ratings that Reggie Bush keeps getting. Get back to me when he manages to crack a buck yards.
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