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2009 Roster Projections: Linebackers

I was originally going to break up the linebackers by inside and outside.  However, I realize there are cross-over issues on the bubble and it should hopefully generate a little more discussion looking at all the linebackers combined together.  The 49ers linebackers are all over the place ranging from the freakishly awesome (Bamm Bamm), to the up and coming youngster (Parys Haralson), to the potential first round bust running out of opportunities (Manny Lawson) to the old veterans (Jeff Ulbrich and Takeo Spikes).  So, we continue our 2009 roster projections, having already addressed safeties, wide receivers, cornerbacks, offensive line, running backs, defensive line, and quarterbacks.

Locks
Patrick Willis, Takeo Spikes, Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Jeff Ulbrich, Scott McKillop

No Chance
Diyral Briggs, Justin Roland, Mark Washington

Bubble
Ahmad Brooks, Jay Moore, Marques Harris

First off, as a reminder, a player listed as no chance simply means I see virtually no chance they'll make the 53-man roster.  Aside from numerous injuries, it just seems unlikely.  Of course they still could make the practice squad.  No guarantees obviously, but it's certainly possible.

Ahmad Brooks remains the ultimate mystery wrapped in an enigma.  Barrows is perpetually excited about Brooks given their common denominator as former Wahoos.  While we know the guys who will be making the roster, I wanted to use this post to come up with what will be the linebacker battle(s) to watch in training camp. 

As we get closer to training camp we'll have various posts on the prospective training camp battles.  For this position it's just a matter of figuring out who will be doing battle.  Will it be Barrows boy Ahmad Brooks versus my boy Jay Moore?  Yes you knew I was going to go there.  Will Marques Harris be competing for third down pass rush work?

I couldn't think of a poll as I'd rather people throw out the potential linebacker battles to keep an eye on.  If anybody has a thought on a specific poll, feel free to comment and I'll add it in.

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Brooks vs. Moore

I choose Brooks. Why? Because I want to see this happen in an NFL game—and I don’t care how many offside penalties it takes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErFwwUf9XE

How many LBs were on the 53-man during the season last year?

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Jun 16, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

8

with Larry Grant getting plucked off our practice roster. Willis, Spikes, Ulbrich, Brooks, Lawson, Haralson, TBC, Green

by 49er4life on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

man every time i watch that video i laugh. if that happened in a nfl game it would be all over espn for weeks.

by pwarren85 on Jun 16, 2009 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jay Moore hasnt played a game so i wouldnt miss him. Brooks has tones of talent seems like he can play multiple positions so i hope Brooks makes it.

by Mathews on Jun 16, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope Lawson comes in and plays well. I felt sorry for him. He looked like he had so much promise his rookie season, then got hurt his second season. Last year was his comeback year, right? Hopefully he can return to form and stay healthy, cuz we need some guys to provide pressure on the QB.

by aBulldog on Jun 16, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Brooks > Moore

Brooks should offer way more vesatility than Moore as he can probably play ILB and OLB better than Moore. I’m actually thinking Brooks splits time with Haralson at OLB.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ted, Sam, Will, Mike

Can anybody tell me the origin of these names for the four LB positions in a 3-4? I know which positions they refer to (Ted and Mike are inside; Sam and Will are outside, right?) and I know which of the starting Niners LBs fill which positions (Willis is Mike, Spikes Ted?) but where do these titles come from, and are they specific to the Niners? I have googled them all, and it seems to be mostly Niners links that show up. But it’s one of the few football positions that Wikipedia offers no help at all on.

by LondonNiner on Jun 16, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ted Manowitz, Sam Spiglehorn, Will Cromski and Mike Ziggelgrubber all got together watching a football game and each had a favorite LB.

So you end up with Ted’s, Sam’s, Will’s and Mike’s LBers.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jun 16, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe in a typical 4-3 defense I’ve heard Mike be used as the call for the middle LB while Sam is strong side LB and Will is weak side LB. As for TED I’ve heard rumors it was named after an old school LB but the name slips me, Ted somethingandanother.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: Ted, Sam, Will, Mike

I’ve always interpreted them as follows: Sam = Strong side LB, Will = Weak side LB and Mike = Middle LB.

I have no idea where Ted comes from, as I can’t think of a synonym for center or middle that begins with the letter ‘T’

by ZFiSH on Jun 16, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ted...

… is for TUFF with a “T”.

by sfgfan on Jun 16, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks ...

… all for replies. Is it a Niners thing then, specifically, historically?

by LondonNiner on Jun 16, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's not a Niners thing

It’s a 3-4 scheme thing.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just in case

In case my sorry attempt at humor wasn’t clear, I really don’t know why the spot is called the “Ted,” either. My best guess is similar to what methodrampage offers up above about it being named after someone in particular.

As for if it’s a 49ers-centric term, I’m also with methodrampage in that it’s a 3-4 thing, not just a 49ers thing.

by sfgfan on Jun 16, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ZFish is correct

The names refers to the side of the formation — so Sam is always strong, Will weak, and Mike middle. These terms are used not only league-wide, but at every level equally in a 3-4 and 4-3 (Derrick Brooks played Will in Tampa Bay, for instance). The TED is exclusive to the 3-4 and refers to the ILB lined up on the TE side of the formation.

I want winners!!

by loudiamond on Jun 17, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The TED is exclusive to the 3-4 and refers to the ILB lined up on the TE side of the formation.

Huh, I didn’t even think of that.

by sfgfan on Jun 17, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The TED is exclusive to the 3-4 and refers to the ILB lined up on the TE side of the formation.

That’s the other train of thought. I’ve also heard that the position was named after Ted Hendricks who I believe converted from a DL to a LB.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 17, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like...

to see Marques Harris make the team.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jun 16, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

justification?

This is a genuine question. Why him over Brooks’ untapped talent and Moore’s pass-rush ability?

Morgan breaks through in 2009!

by grantmp on Jun 18, 2009 6:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

????
Moore’s pass-rush ability?

This would be his 3rd year in the NFL on a team hurting for pass rushers. I understand he has been hurt and has not have an opportunity to play. But, Harris does have experience, though very limited. He may only have 8 sacks in his career. But, it’s 8 sacks more than Moore. Moore has plenty of supporters in NN, but if Harris outplays him in the off-season, will the 49ers hang on to him? If, and only if, the 49ers realize that Manny Lawson has got to go, maybe there will be room for Jay Moore, Brooks, and Harris in the roster.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jun 18, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops,

I messed up, Fooch.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jun 18, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Jay Moore is your boy? What has he ever shown? Frankly, he’s been lucky to have season-ending injuries the past two years or he would’ve been cut.

After those “locks” you’re left with development projects. And Ahmad Brooks has shown a lot more potential than Moore.

by Cal80 on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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