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Thoughts on niners two #1's next year.


Barring some huge trade this year that involves the 49ers giving up both or even 1 of those pick I was curious as to what everyone think the 49ers organization might do with these picks. I personally believe that the 49ers are done spending money in free agency or trades. So if that is the case that means we will be sitting pretty next year for the 2010 draft.

The 2010 draft will be one of the best drafts witin the last few years with names such as Sam Bradford, Colt Mccoy, Tim Tebow,  Taylor Mays(my favorite), Brandon Spikes, Sergio Kindle, Ndamukong Suh to name a few. We all know there is no way of predicting the future but it would be interesting to see if someone could get it right a year in advance.

I just read an article that suggest the 49ers might do everything within their means to make sure Nate Davis gets on the roster even going as far as placing him on the IR. But for me I'm thinking that with much more proven college qb's about to come out why wouldn't the 49ers package a trade up for say a Sam Bradford? I guess a lot of it depends on what spot we have with these picks that determines the value. Does anyone know the value of first round draft picks?

 

Or might the 49ers organization do a complete turnaround of what they said they would no longer do and use one of those picks as trade bate for an unhappy player? What are some other possibilities?

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I've been saying this for months... And i'll say it again

I believe the 49ers need one outstanding and strong spoken individual. Someone who is going to put everything on his shoulders and lead this team.

Hopefully, This next year, the particular quarterback I am talking about, can work out that arm of his and become a passing-running-dual threat QB, with a body built like Big Ben, Tim Tebow could lead this 49ers team out of the darkness from the last decade, and bring the 49ers back into football glory.

This is the kind of leadership I want to see our QB take, when he takes the helm for SF, and actually prove what he is saying like Florida did last year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96vAbtpakLg

by UCLABRU1 on Jun 19, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tim...Tebow?

I hope you’re kidding.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO TEBOW!!!!!!

He’ll be a H-back

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Jun 19, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, that's what we need...

another qb from the urban meyer system. [/sarcasm]

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Jun 19, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booooo

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, n/a on a stat sheet.
BBk supports Sleepy's Law: "As a hoops discussion grows longer, the probability of an absurd trade proposal involving LeBron James approaches 1."

by BrianBokake on Jun 23, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, no joke

But i anticipate people going ape shit over this. Frankly, I’ll have to bite my tongue and unfortunately wait for another team to pick him up and let him prove himself on an NFL field.

by UCLABRU1 on Jun 19, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tebow doesn't even play like a quarterback.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He isn't a traditional "NFL style" QB by any means....

but no one in here can deny the fact that Tebow is a winner and a complete and utter beast. I hate Florida, but I cannot deny how dominate he is, and nobody else can either.

by Blank x2 on Jun 19, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wins are not a QB stat,

and there is nothing about Tebow’s game that looks like it can translate even remotely successfully in the NFL.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea, winning isn't important at all.

Like I said, I don’t like him, but Tebow doesn’t just win….he dominates.

And if you pay close attention, the HEADING to my post says he’s not an NFL QB.

I just said nobody can deny that he is a beast who completely dominates almost every game he’s in. Tebow is close to unstoppable, even if it is only in the college game.

by Blank x2 on Jun 20, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

wasnt Alex Smith a “winner” in high school and college i think he was like 46-2

by gbears16 on Jun 19, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ken Dorsey...

… was quite the winner at Miami, too.

by sfgfan on Jun 22, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

tebow is truly a beast I just don’t know how it will translate into the nfl. Someone needs to give that man a chance and someone will.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 20, 2009 3:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I almost hope he plays QB for somebody later on in the NFL just because so many people on here doubt him.

by Blank x2 on Jun 20, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course Tebow will...

…get a chance in the NFL – you win a Heisman, you get drafted on the first day. The problem is the only system Tebow fits in is the one Meyer built around him.

He plays like a beast, and can take advantage of the 3-4 players on every college football team’s defense that will never ever see the NFL, but once he gets to the pros there won’t be anyone who he can isolate. He’ll be a gadget player at best, most likely a starter for the Las Vegas Aweosms – potentially UFL MVP?

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RE: you win a Heisman, you get drafted on the first day.

Wow, back in my early days I’d be much obliged to rip you a new one for posting such a blatantly incorrect/clueless/ignorant comment. However, today is a different story.

’06 – Troy Smith – 5th Round
’03 – Jason White – Undrafted
’00 – Chris Wienke – 4th Round
’96 – Danny Wuerffel – 4th Round
’93 – Charlie Ward – Undrafted*
’92 – Gino Torretta – 7th Round
’90 – Ty Detmer – 9th Round
’84 – Doug Flutie – 11th Round

I’m sure this list keeps going but frankly I’m bored proving you lack of knowledge on this particular subject and will assume that if you do choose to educate yourself that you do in fact have the resources and mental capacity to do so.

*Essentially Charlie Ward choose the NBA over the NFL and that’s basically why he went undrafted but he didn’t get drafted none the less.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love getting in discussions with you method, I just love it!

’05 – Reggie Bush – 2nd overall – 1st round
’04 – Matt Leinart – 10th overall – 1st round
’02 – Carson Palmer – 1st overall – 1st round
’01 – Eric Crouch – 3rd round (still the first day back then)
’99 – Ron Dayne – 11th overall – 1st round
’98 – Ricky Williams – 5th overall – 1st round
’97 – Charles Woodson – 4th overall – 1st round
’95 – Eddie George – 14th overall – 1st round
’94 – Rashaan Salaam – 21st overall – 1st round
’89 – Andre Ware – 7th overall – 1st round
’88 – Barry Sanders – 3rd overall – 1st round
’87 – Tim Brown – 6th overall – 1st round
’86 – Vinny Testaverde – 1st overall – 1st round
’85 – Bo Jackson – 1st overall – 1st round

In the same period of time, compared to the 8 Heisman trophy winners not drafted on the first day (Charlie Ward is a cop-out, it should be 7), there were 14 drafted on the first day, 13 of which in the first round, and three 1st overall picks.

I will admit, maybe I was a bit hasty inferring that Heisman = Lock on the first day, so I’ll give you that. However, there is certainly a 2:1 trend of Heisman winners to, not only be drafted on the first day, but be drafted in the first round.

It’s kind of silly, and embarressing, for someone to try to insult me when he ignores half of the data staring him in the face. You must have seen this information, and just chose not to post it, hoping and praying no-one else followed through. Too bad I know how to use that new-fangled internet machine, just like you… :-D

And again, I know I’ve said this to you before, but put this book away:

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well.

Technically, he didn’t need to pay attention to the other part of the sample, as your original statement was all-encompassing, which is all he was refuting.

by sfgfan on Jun 23, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

Jason White would tell you that winning a Heisman won’t even guarantee that you get drafted at all. So ProfessorBigelow’s comment couldn’t be further from the truth as it’s not like he said “…you win a Heisman your likely to get drafted on the first day” which would be essentially correct. Unfortunately I don’t have the patience or skill of an English teacher so for better or worse we’ll just have take ProfessorBigelow’s grasp, or lack thereof, of the English language as is. That is unless someone else wants to volunteer to school him up.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh...

I apologize then for hurting you so badly then; I know you foll. I was a Biology major, I don’t claim to be a master of the English language. I have no problem admitting I made a mistake, which I did above. The continued assault on my character is unnecessary, and puts you on the level of angsty-13-year-old-who-hates-his-dad-for-taking-away-his-XBox-and-grinds-his-ax-on-blog-posts.

Do you have something against me method? Do you want my job? Or are you satisfied only making < 300 word comments on everyone else’s thoughts? The life of a critic is a lonely one my friend…

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

edit fail

I apologize then for hurting you so badly; I know you follow my every whim and word. I was…

Further proof English and I are not best friends.

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

or

you could be acting liking this kid in this video when proved wrong

http://www.facebook.com/ext/share.php?sid=112823621344&h=9oCvo&u=FXuMl&ref=nf

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 23, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you implying....

… that those who make short, but true, comments aren’t as valuable as those who come up with their own topics?

by sfgfan on Jun 23, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can I have my Xbox back please?

Do you really believe yourself, that I follow your every whim and word? If I did do you really think this is the only opportunity that I would have had to call you out on something? I’m just trying to heighten the discourse here in my own special way, if people make claims or statements that are blatantly false I will call them out on it. Now, I used to do it a lot more but my level of involvement around here has been down recently and with the influx of commenters my efforts were beginning to seem futile but I still try to make an effort every now and again. But as it just so happens the methodrampage wheel of criticism seems to have stopped on ProfessorBigelow today.

So no, I don’t have anything against you and no, I don’t want your job. I turned down the position prior to you even having the opportunity to solicit it. I’m also satisfied with my contributions to the site even if my table is empty at the Niners Nation banquet.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The truth
involvement around here has been down recently and with the influx of commenters my efforts were beginning to seem futile

Couldn’t agree more. There use to be a time where I thought I could hold off the optimists, but they seem to respawn in pairs with there usual newbie catch phrases.
- We’ll be at least 9-7 this year
- Singletary will guide us to the promise land. GO 49ers!!!
- (or something that relates to) Jimmy Raye being Norv Turner rewinding time back to that magical 7-9 season.

Can’t wait until the season starts, because there’s always someone new to point the finger at.(for niners fans that is)

by supraman on Jun 23, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I don’t agree with much, maybe anything, you say but I got a decent laugh out of this.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does this remind anyone of a certain Alex Smith? A “proven winner” who plays in a style that is rarely successful in the NFL?

"Snow woulda had it!!!"

by beat_la_25 on Jun 23, 2009 6:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must be new to Niners Nation

Alex Smith (going into his 5th year as a Pro) still is a highly regarded player around these parts unfortunately.

by supraman on Jun 23, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i never liked the pick and i don’t think i ever will. smith’s stats were obviously a product of the shotgun system at utah and he doesn’t have the size and skills to survive as an nfl quarterback. personally, i believe the bigger and more physical qbs translate their success best to the pros… guys like roethlisberger, and leftwich for a time.

"Snow woulda had it!!!"

by beat_la_25 on Jun 24, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't understand what the 49ers brass saw in him.

Smith was probably the worst prospect to go #1 overall in the last two decades. There’s not much that separates him from Graham Harrell and he went undrafted.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 28, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Weak draft class.

Alex Smith was the only way to go with the pick (kind of like how Matt Stafford had to be the pick for the Lions this year)

Alex was going to be a top 5 pick no matter what.

by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 28, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that weak

Stafford(+hype +exposure) best compares to Cutler
Cutler who was picked 11th in a very strong draft class
Smith who best compares to Tebow.
Tebow before he announced he was going back to gainsville
projected as a 2nd or 3rd round pick
Stafford v. Bradford
Bradford before he announced he was going back to the Sooners
projected as a top 5/10 pick along with Stafford
010’ which is suppose to be one the stronger QB drafts
Bradford projects as a top 15(we’ll say) for next year

Alex Smith.. Of course the 49ers could of chose either Braylon Edwards or Aaron Rodgers.. A.S being in the top 5 no matter what? after what happened to Rodgers not exactly sure about that.

by supraman on Jun 28, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A.S being in the top 5 no matter what? after what happened to Rodgers not exactly sure about that.

There was a GM that supposedly would have taken him shortly after the 49ers if they hadn’t. If Maiocco’s search feature was better, I’d try to find the post/article/blurb.

by sfgfan on Jun 29, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn’t count Alex out of it yet…not just yet I truly believe he will be giving Hill a one for his money and that the decision as to who the starter is will go into the last preseason game. If Smith doesn’t get it I really expect him to end going to a system that he will do wonderful in. He’s not a stupid kid and he’s very athletic. Sometimes it just takes awhile to find a niche or place. I like Shaun Hill a lot but there is a huge part of me that is really rooting for Alex smith to win it and lead this team back to the playoffs….he got a raw deal….i mean his best wr was Arnaz battle…seriously? How many td’s would you throw with that?

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 29, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant RUN

instead of ’ONE"

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 29, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GM that supposedly

Supposedly is not certain. McCloughan supposedly was suppose to draft an OT and pass rusher in this draft, he did neither one.

by supraman on Jun 29, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a difference.

The supposedly I speak of is a GM actually speaking of doing something. McCloughan, if I’m not mistaken, made no assertion as to what he planned to do before the draft.

by sfgfan on Jun 29, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quit arguing with that guy

He’s the one that called Stafford “elite”

by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 29, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I believe you were the one who mentioned

the Broncos having depth at the RB position last year, as well as mentioning (paraphrasing) that they had solid run game. Of course then you realized you were going only off stats and truly had no idea what you were arguing.

Stafford still is an elite prospect in my mind. Hasn’t done too much to prove me wrong, has only exceeded expectations in mini-camp.

by supraman on Jun 29, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Completely off-topic, but unworthy of a seperate post.

The mention of Stafford reminds me: I remember disagreeing with you about the possibility of drafting Crabs some time back in January or February. You argued in strong opposition to the idea.

Has that changed now that it’s actually happened?

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Jun 29, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was referring to

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=Aqj.JWG4r9Si56aZGyRwbbBDubYF?slug=ms-trippintuesday042809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

All of this made the draft’s second day a far less stressful exercise for McCloughan. While failing to land an offensive lineman or pass rusher in the later rounds, he took several complementary players who could fill key backup roles. He also seemed to be channeling Wolf, whose philosophy was to draft a quarterback every single year, when he took Ball State’s Nate Davis with a compensatory pick late in the fifth round.

Just realizing though that, that was the author’s opinion on the matter.

by supraman on Jun 29, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was rumored that Jon Gruden wanted Smith really badly and was going to draft him for Tampa.

But seeing as how Gruden is a quarterback-collecting psycho, that isn’t really inspiring.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Inspiring...

… or not, I’m just arguing he wouldn’t have fallen as far as Rodgers did.

by sfgfan on Jun 30, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stafford is an astronomically better prospect than Smith was.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what?

The truth is, there’s no such thing as a low-risk early-first-round QB pick.

by Ronaldinho on Jun 30, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And this kind of thinking

is what leads GMs to just pick QBs out of a cap labeled 1st round QB prospects. To heck with trying to minimize the risk by watching film, having the combine, pro-days, interviews.. it’s all a game of risk anyway there’s no point in bettering your chances.

by supraman on Jun 30, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does any GM do that?

I mean, I’ve never heard of such a thing happening with first-round QBs. Have you? Or are you just talking out of your a**?

The problem is that you often don’t have relevant game-film (either the team doesn’t run a pro-style offense, or they’re rarely playing defenses that aren’t totally outclassed) so you have very few snaps to judge him from.

Combines, pro days, interviews, etc ultimately tell you a lot about a QBs measurables, but QB is probably the position where measurables are the least important factor. Ryan Leaf, Rick Mirer, etc all looked great at the combine.

When somebody says Stafford is an “astronomically” better prospect than Smith was, I simply want to know what they’re basing it on. Stafford has made his share of unpressured mistakes. Stafford is a reasonable pick for a first-round QB. So was Smith.

I really think the only way you can call Stafford an “astronomically” better prospect than Smith is if you use 20-20 hindsight combined with the fact that Smith has, so far, been a failure as a pro.

But look back at the history of QBs drafted in the past 10 years, and tell me there’s such a thing as a low risk pick:

Tim Couch, AKili Smith, MIchael VIck, David Carr, Vince Young, JaMarcus Russell, Matt Leinart.

Donovan McNabb, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Phillip Rivers.

If you want to tell me you could have broken those players down accurately beforehand, I call b.s.

by Ronaldinho on Jul 1, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Replying to:
When somebody says Stafford is an "astronomically" better prospect than Smith was, I simply want to know what they’re basing it on. Stafford has made his share of unpressured mistakes. Stafford is a reasonable pick for a first-round QB. So was Smith.

Earlier in this thread I said..

Stafford(+hype +exposure) best compares to Cutler
Cutler who was picked 11th in a very strong draft class
Smith who best compares to Tebow.
Tebow before he announced he was going back to gainsville
projected as a 2nd or 3rd round pick
Stafford v. Bradford
Bradford before he announced he was going back to the Sooners
projected as a top 5/10 pick along with Stafford
010’ which is suppose to be one the stronger QB drafts
Bradford projects as a top 15(we’ll say) for next year

To the rest of your comment. It’s my opinion obviously it’s not set in stone. Really I don’t know why your over(or under) thinking this, because it seems like in your saying, it doesn’t matter if you select Mike Teel in the 1st round just because you can’t predict the future.

The Final Reply to:

The problem is that you often don’t have relevant game-film (either the team doesn’t run a pro-style offense, or they’re rarely playing defenses that aren’t totally outclassed) so you have very few snaps to judge him from.

The thing is… Stafford played in a pro-style offense, also played in the SEC.. the best defensive conference in all of the NCAA.

by supraman on Jul 1, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not what he was trying to say...
it seems like in your saying, it doesn’t matter if you select Mike Teel in the 1st round just because you can’t predict the future.

He was just saying that it’s hard to hit on 1st round QBs.
You disagree with that?

I’m begging to wonder why you can’t seem to comprehend certain arguments.
You always seem to mis-read things and get the wrong ideas.

by chikmagnet_565 on Jul 1, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Draft

As I’ve mentioned before, talking about next year’s draft before the current season is even over (or even PLAYED) is kind of ridiculous, but the general approach I think the 49ers take is that they wait until the day of the draft before any moves are made.

With the two first rounders, the 49ers will have AT LEAST one pick in the 12 to 20 range, with possibly both of them falling in that range. If next year’s QB class is as deep as it’s suggested to be, the 49ers should be in prime position to take the last of the first three or so QBs in the draft (unless for some reason there are three or four QBs taken in the top 10, which is unlikely). That is, if they even want to go after a QB at all.

With two first rounders, the 49ers can very well continue to look to fill out other holes they have (i.e. pass rusher, NT, CB, FS).

One thing I would love to see them try to do is to move their second round pick for a future number one, again.

by sfgfan on Jun 19, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, it's too early

The development of Nate Davis and play of Shaun Hill/Alex Smith will have a huge impact on the Niners’ draft. I don’t know that they drafted Davis as a career back-up so if he shows promise I don’t know that the Niners will be looking QB with either one of those first rounders. The draft takes on a whole new shape for the Niners if they don’t feel the need to draft a QB.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 19, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look i agree that it is way too early and highly unlikely that any of us can guess what the 49ers will do. But for the sake of having nothing else to really talk about I don’t see what it can hurt to fantasize about what will happen. I agree with sfgfan they might not even go after a qb

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 19, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I rec'd you....

Honestly guys, it’s obvious that it’s too early for this conversation but what else do we have to do? Plus it’s succeeding in getting us posting, discussing, and arguing. Soooooo……leave it be and let’s enjoy the post and throw completely crazy thoughts off the wall. I think we grab a QB and NT with our first two picks.

by hudd07 on Jun 29, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Funny

How you mention McCoy, Bradford and even Tebow…..but not Jevan Snead…
WTF?

Snead was way more potential than all of those jack-asses put together.

by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 19, 2009 3:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Snead is junk.

LeFevour is the man.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 19, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think the 49ers will pass on a QB in the 1st round, especially one in the top 10

I think they really like Nate Davis and will build him up over the next couple years.
I also think they will go for someone like Mays or Coty with one of the 1st rounders if they can. Coty from Alabama would be a big player for our NT.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jun 19, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mays?

Maybe, I guess. I guess you can take a SS early in the first round, but I kind of doubt it, though.

by sfgfan on Jun 19, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrance Cody?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A typo.. yes.. It is Terrance Cody.. that guy is a mountain

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jun 19, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually like snead I think he’s pretty good but my heart is telling me that the 9ers are willing to play it safe the next 2 years with the 3 they have. I see them going either nt,ol, Lb, or safety with Mays. I like that pick a lot. Lets not forget the safety from Tennesse who’s a junior…what’s his name?

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 19, 2009 3:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Suggestion

Please use the “+reply” option below the comment you’re responding to, just to help make discussion following easier.

by sfgfan on Jun 19, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Berry.

Aka Taylor Mays but better.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree.

Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list, n/a on a stat sheet.
BBk supports Sleepy's Law: "As a hoops discussion grows longer, the probability of an absurd trade proposal involving LeBron James approaches 1."

by BrianBokake on Jun 23, 2009 1:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disagree

I read somewhere that Mays might not even stay at FS for USC this year. Mays will not be a FS in the NFL while Eric Berry very much will be. Mays’ lack of “ball hawking” skills is very concerning. Mays only has 4 INT in 3 years (none last season and none returned for TD). Eric Berry has 12 INT in 2 years (5 returned for TD). Mays like former USC standout safety Darnell Bing will not be lining up at FS, or possibly even SS, in the NFL. Mays has even talked about wanting to WR in the NFL, which he probably has a better shot at than FS.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade em to move up in the draft.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 19, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly what I said before the last time this question was brought up

Assuming the 49ers have the 15th pick and the Panthers have the 20th
with the
15th (Eric Berry, Terrance Cody, OffensiveTackle)
20th (Offensive Tackle, Jerry Hughes, Jimmy Clausen, Navarro Bowman, Pat Devlin[The next Flacco])

by supraman on Jun 19, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Doubtful that Berry or Cody would last till 15.

Actually, maybe Cody because I see him doing all sorts of awful at the combine, but Berry has a good chance of being a top 5 pick.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize that

but since the draft is a year away nearly anything can happen knocking either players stocks down

by supraman on Jun 19, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True.

And to clarify, I meant top 10 pick <_<

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tebow!

Yeah haters hate, what is new?

He can change the whole idea of the QB position in the NFL, especially if you get a fast scrambler like Vick and run an A-11 offense (which is somewhat illegal in the NFL currently) on some of the downs.

by danknerd49 on Jun 19, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

a-11 offense?

not to get off topic but what the heck is a A-ll offense. And if you can keep it short that would be greatly appreciated. And I don’t think anyone is hating on Tebow it’s just people like to doubt great players until its proven. There has been many good looking qb’s in college who just turned out to be complete garbarge….like the great H. Shuler and R. Leaf. Tebow reminds of that white qb from Nebraska who was a complete beast. I must be getting old I can’t remember his name but that boy could run.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 20, 2009 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Crouch?

and in his 4th season, VD broke through the wall, Niners fan rejoiced and all was well in the kingdom. Singletary 3:42

by 49erLou on Jun 20, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes eric crouch…do yall remember him. That young man could run that football and make the pass when he needed to…much like Tebow. Tebow is better though. But I remembe watching crouch do some things I had never seen a qb do until M.Vick showed up.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 20, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eric Crouch

is still the single most amazing college football player I have ever seen. It’s a damn shame that he never got a chance to play in the NFL. Without his injuries and an unwillingness to play WR, he could have been something special.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Jun 21, 2009 3:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

man!

Yo that was a great highlight video…i take my comment back about tebow being better….heck no….he can’t run like that. I forgot how good crouch was.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 21, 2009 5:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A-11

It was an offense run by a high school out here in California that was recently ruled illegal even in high school. Basically most or all players are declared eligible receivers.

A-11 Offense official website

ESPN article on the offense

by Fooch on Jun 20, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats very interesting. I have never heard of this offense before today. Sounds confusing…will try to youtube it and see if I can come up with something in action.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 20, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

there were other links too but this will suffice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxZpyMn8lgA

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 21, 2009 5:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.......

a player people thought would change the QB position Mike Vick anyone just say no to both. Four best Qb’s in the league right now all pocket passers go figure.

by Mullester on Jun 21, 2009 12:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade Down?

Is it just me or is it just smarter to trade down in the draft. Unless there is a can’t miss pick in the 1st round I think that we should try to get out of the first round in order to use our cap money on free agents or re-signing our own players. I would like to see us make some key signings in the OL and DB departments but other than that I think its time to build some good depth. Lets say that Clements or Marvel Smith goes down….where does that leave us? I’m not feeling good about having “capable” backups stepping in, I would rather have solid up-and-coming younger guys backing up.

by Frank Cuatro Ocho on Jun 20, 2009 12:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed on depth

we don’t have a lot of depth at cornerback(at least not any that I feel could come in and start). If nate C were to go down that would mean Tarrell Brown would move into that starting position(I think bly is going to start over him) which leaves us with S. Spencer playing a lot more and I think i’m one of the few who thinks spencer will never amount to what they had hoped. He’s decent just not the best. OL I wouldn’t worry too much because of the young talent we have drafted. rookies or not ol is a position that you typically find studs in the draft. I think Boone will be okay to step in. With that said I wouldn’t trade out though, its rare to have 2 first rounders especially as high as people are expecting them to be….top 20. We all remember the last time we had 2 picks…we got bamm bamm and staley(he needs a nickname)

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 20, 2009 4:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade both picks.

Lets play the 10’ draft like the Pats played this one.

by goatfather on Jun 20, 2009 7:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I get trading down...

In a draft like this past one, but next year is chaulk full of nasty talent.

by Patrick J Smiles on Jun 27, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trade down

I agree there are better players to move down for.

by zonedogs on Jun 20, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Why...

are there too many Tebow haters? I mean, not just 49ers fans, but pretty much all around the country. I’m a big fan, wouldn’t want the 49ers to pick him up, but, if they do, I think he would be an upgrade over all the QB’s on the roster.
He also is a big missionary person, helping 3rd world countries with all sorts of stuff. Not that it means anything on the football field, but something good to know, I suppose.

"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"

by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Jun 20, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think very highly of the 49ers QBs at all,

and I’d still rather take any of them over Tim Tebow any day of the week. He looks like a giraffe on skates when he runs, isn’t much of a passer, and that Jesus Jump thing he does sometimes on goal line situations will have a 0% success rate in the NFL. In fact, the only reason why I think Florida’s offense worked is because of the extreme versatility of the players (Tebow, Harvin, Trautwein) that matched well with that stupid 4-option thing they ran.

He is some athlete, I’ll give him that credit. He might make a decent FB/TE hybrid thing.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jun 20, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your assuming

A Smith doesn’t make the pro bowl…. I mean why would be draft a QB at all? We got Nate Davis in development?

by goatfather on Jun 21, 2009 7:03 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yes assuming alex smith or Shaun hill don’t have remarkable seasons that will buy them another 2 years but I’m skeptical that will happen but here’s to hoping and a wishing…personally I’d like to see Smith get it but I like Hill too. Nate Davis in development? Right now the 49ers arent even sure he will make the team. Huard is already been promised the 3rd string role. If the 49ers do not put him on the active roster Nate Davis is then elgible to be picked up by anyone. I really don’t see the 49ers carrying 4 qb’s on the roster. And if nate isn’t to put on, the 49ers probably will look at bringing in another qb. They clearly aren’t 100% happy with the situation…otherwise why flirt with warner and take so long saying no to vick? The 49ers want the face of the organization to be the QB(a superstar) and I don’t see either hill or smith being that in their eyes…….but I could be wrong.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 21, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok.....I need to step in for Clarity......

First off, I don’t HATE Tim Tebow, I just think he’s a ‘lil overrated. Take a long look at the QB’s that have come out of college with monster numbers, Heisman tropheis, National Titles and the like. Not a great percentage of them have gone on to NFL greatness.
Need some back-up? Gino Turretta (U of M, Heisman winner, gone.) Colt Brennan (Hawaii, alltime collegeiate passing champion, barely drafted.) Cody Pickett, (U of M, Heisman finalist, 7th rd bust.) Dan McGuire, Andre Ware, Akili Smith, Matt Leinert, Vince Young, and the list goes on and on. Tebow is a great RUNNER, not a passer. Something the Niners are in DIRE need of. If a running QB is going to take us over the top, then let’s cut the middle man, keep the draft picks and acquire Mike Vick. One problem solved; another opened. If we took a QB at all I’d be more wiling to take a chance at Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy as they have tons of experience and offenses that closer resemble pro style offenses. Plus, they are proven pocket passers, with strong arms and good decision making skills too boot.

But, truth be told, I’d use both our first rounders on Defensive players. We passed on Oracbo this year even when he was still on the board. Next years top defensive lineman should wear scarlet (red if you must) and gold. The second pick goes to one of the top defensive backs available. On the other side of Nate Clements or helping shore up our deep secondary, which would do wonders for the team.

A final shout out to all the conspiracy theorists that frequent this site……If there is to be a package deal, I say trade one of our 1st rds AND Alex Smith to a team in need of a QB. The only problem I see in this theory is that most teams in the league right now are pretty settled at signal caller. The only possible exceptions are the Browns, Texans, Seattle and Minnesota. Other than those few teams, everyone has their QB of the future. It’s time the Niners got theirs. (sorry Smith lovers…..I ain’t convinced). As far as getting a bunch of good Vets in the mix…..this ain’t the Yankees as I have said before. In this league you can no longer bankrupt the team in order to win. It’s a process that when done right, garners more than short term results. Redskins anyone? Keep the picks, keep your shirts on and show some patients. This team can become winners more over the long haul than a short sprint.

P.S. to the author……..Draft picks, even in the 1st rd are considered pretty low in comparison to players. The earlier in the season it is. (For instance, right now on a scale of A+ – F- our 2 draft picks figure somewhere in the range of C-. All other teams are stocked and loaded for bare. However, the closer the season comes to a close, the higher draft picks become more of a premium as teams begin to figure out what their needs are and what players are going to become availbale in the up coming draft. pretty easy stuff.

K.C.Edwards -AKA- "THE" DarkkStarr

by DarkkStarr1 on Jun 23, 2009 12:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks for letting me know what the value of the picks are darkkstarr. I totally agree with everything you said up above about all the college qb bust. 9 times out of 10 you will have either a career backup on your team or a bust. Maybe it’s time they change that term for college qb’s trying to come into the nfl. I think the word bust is better suited for positions that are an easier transition such (not that any are easy) it’s just the QB position is just too hard for most of them I truly believe the days of a Elway, Marino, Montana, Kelly, Moon are over. We wont have qb’s that good anymore and if we do it will be very rare such as Peyton Manning. The rest of your current and future qb’s will just have to manage the offense and not take them out of the game like Big Ben(who is imo 2nd best in the league), Eli, Philip Rivers and the likes. All of whom are good quarterbacks but none of them that make you go oooooooooooh and ah. I would much rather use those picks on the defense and build a defense that can keep us in it(like our 2nd half of the season D) than to gamble on first round qb’s. Build the OL and find a qb who can manage the offense……oh wait I think we have but no one believes in him…Shaun Hill. Like I said a part of me is rooting for smith though and thats only because of what he has been through.

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 23, 2009 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

“I say trade one of our 1st rds AND Alex Smith to a team in need of a QB. The only problem I see in this theory is that most teams in the league right now are pretty settled at signal caller. The only possible exceptions are the Browns, Texans, Seattle and Minnesota. Other than those few teams, everyone has their QB of the future. It’s time the Niners got theirs. (sorry Smith lovers…..I ain’t convinced).”

Uh … who is convinced?

At this point, Alex Smith doesn’t add much (if anything) of value to a trade. Even most Smith supporters (of which I consider myself one) recognize that he’s got a lot to prove before he’s talked about as a long-term solution at QB.

It’s way too early to talk about next year’s draft. Obvious long-term needs are RT, CB, and pass-rushing OLB. But you can’t go into a draft insisting on drafting certain positions if the players on the board don’t justify it.

by Ronaldinho on Jun 23, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frankly, people will talk about what ever the hell they want to talk about here

As long as it’s at least Niners or football related and for you to try to oppress certain discussions because it’s not what you want to talk about is in bad taste.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not trying to opress it, I'm not trying to stop people from talking about it...

I’m just saying, I’m still recovering from draft talk that (I thought) ended two months ago. Did I tell people to stop? Nope. Did I Say “No… One… Else… Should… Talk… About… The… Draft…”? Nope, I’m just sick of spending time talking about some players who will only see the field if they buy a ticket. You acting like classic method, putting word’s in people’s mouths and distorting what they are saying, and that sir is in bad taste. If I wanted to oppress a discussion, I would close the comments, or delete the FanPost

I’m just ready to talk about football topics a bit closer than the 2010 Draft, and not willing to get into drawn out discussions theorizing about something that is a whole NFL (and NCAA) season away.

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok fair enough

If you weren’t insinuating anything by

No…. More…. Draft…. Talk……

then I’ll just file it as the most pointless comment I’ve seen on Niners Nation. Honestly, I didn’t put any words in your mouth and I really didn’t even really accuse you of oppressing the discussion I just said that for you to try to it would be in bad taste. Look if you don’t want to talk about the draft nobody is twisting your arm and I doubt your insight on the matter would be missed. I just thought that the comment of yours that I quoted above was completely unnecessary and would have expected an “Editor” to refrain from such nonsense but hey that’s just me and color me unimpressed.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um... Wat?
I really didn’t even really accuse you of oppressing the discussion

… when you said…

…for you to try to oppress certain discussions…

I just don’t get it.

And since when does being an editor prevent me from making “useless” comments? I think there are plenty of other people out there whose head hurts at the thought of more draft coverage. Do my blogging rights change once I’m allowed to post on the front page? If you don’t think the comment is neccesary, don’t waste your time and reply, just skip over it, it’s that simple.

I just don’t get the obsession you have with me – plenty of others make equally useless comments and you don’t get your panties in a twist about it. I’m flattered, really, I am. I think it’s kind of cute to have a fan that gets upset when I dissapoint him. But to hijack a thread just to prove a point/insult me is equally useless, if not moreso, because you are detracting from the original purpose of this thread. In the future, click the envelope next to my name at the bottom, and send me a message.

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do my blogging rights change once I’m allowed to post on the front page?

Kind of, doesn’t it? If you’re viewed as one who may reflect the views of the other editors, what you write publicly can make a difference. In my opinion (and of course this is Fooch’s blog, so he can feel free to run it as he pleases), an editor (you’re more than a person who just submits an article here or there like Florida Danny or HowTheScored) should be promoting participation on the site (as long as it’s 49ers related). If you disagree with the topic at hand or would rather not have the discussion, then maybe you can just not join in.

Again, just my opinion, and of course my opinion means very little in the grand scheme of things on someone else’s blog.

by sfgfan on Jun 23, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

okay this had cleary turned into the professor and meth show…lol…:) Calm down fellas its all good. Professor I know you are tired of talking about it but clearly others and myself are not. Its a dead time of the year and I’m tired of talking about who will make the team. I mean how often can you have that conversation? One of the more interesting things around our team right now is our draft picks. when training camp starts we will then find something else to talk about but until then can we just have a little fantasy buddy? Meth? Chill man…:0 yall both got good points….you two get a room or a individual fanpost battle of whits. :)

"Of all the things in the world losing isn't so bad; it just starts to feel like it does when you do it for so long"

by ninerfanNVA on Jun 23, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright I'm just addressing everything right here

ninerfanNVA – I’m sorry if I made it seem like I don’t want people to talk about it… I was trying to be funny but it obviously didn’t translate well. I readily admit I don’t know as much about the draft as other people on this site; it is faaar from my forte. I also understand that those people who love and live the draft want to focus in on the amazing gift we have in our first round in 2010. That’s fantastic, because I’m more than likely going to draw my opinion on the matter from you guys. So I apologize if it seemed like I was attempting to squelch your FanPost.

In the future I will do everything possible to make sure any and all comments I leave are not only supportive, but engaging and add to the discussion. I’m really sorry about having a hand in hijacking your discussion… I feel like poo.

Speaking of adding to the discussion – sfgfan – I don’t see this as one person’s blog, or even a handfull of people’s blog. It’s the Nation for a reason: anyone who comes to this site, be it randomly from a Google search of “Duke and Verragamo”, or someone who clicks over from Yahoo, or a seasoned veteran (like methodrampage) who has been here since 2006, can write a post, add media, whatever. It is everyone’s blog, I’ve just been lucky enough to moderate and have my opinion reach the front page. Some people like my opinion and what I have to say, some don’t. I apologize to you also for adding/detracting/whatever in a discussion that I am, obviously, far outclassed in.

And finally, methodrampage. First of all, I’m sorry things got a bit out of hand, and the attacks might have been a bit more scathing than necessary. I can make excuses like long day at work or this or that or blah blah blah, but as sfgfan noted, I guess things do change if you are an editor on this site. I was wrong about stating that Heisman is a lock for drafted early, I neglected to remember those that fell off the map soon after being crowned best-in-college.

You are one of the better posters on this site, even if you are a [site-decorum]-head about it some times. To use a terribly cliched saying, you keep it real. I did not mean to infer that those who do not make FanPosts do not add to this site, and those who do not make long, drawn out comments (like this one… oops) add nothing to the site. So go ahead, keep me honest and keep my facts in check, I will some day by you a beer in appreciation for it. However, I do not appreciate personal attacks on my character, or my intelligence. I have few things in this world, and I take pride in both of those, that is what hit a nerve with me (ugh… I might have just given a thief the keys to the house with that comment…). In the future, I would just appreciate it if you just attack my comments, maybe give a jab here or there, and not be a complete [site-decorum] head about it.

Aaaaand I think that was enough apologizing for one day….

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No hard feelings (I hope)

I was having a little fun, got bored at work. I’m a pretty sarcastic and crass person which is far from politically correct on a blog and the poor translation of my sarcasm onto the internet does humor me. I guess I was just riling you up for the sake of riling you (or someone) up. I can be selfish and put my own humoring above all else even when it does detract a little from the site. However, ultimately I do think we all learned a bit two from this “discussion” so really everybody is a winner.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 23, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow....

This is turning into an after school special! But thanks to everyone for being grown-ups about this in the end.

by Fooch on Jun 23, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t see this as one person’s blog, or even a handfull of people’s blog.

I totally understand what you’re saying. I completely understand that anyone with an opinion that’s willing to share can share on this site. However, when I said “Fooch’s blog,” I’m speaking from an administrative sense. Fooch, essentially, runs things here. If he thinks you’re worthy of a ban, he can ban you. If he thinks you’re worthy of being a moderator/editor/“assistant coach”, he’ll be sure to approach you about it. It’s kind of like a business company: everyone has an opinion, but your actions can reflect that of “management.”

In the end, maybe I just should have left the discussion between you and method, but I just thought I’d throw my two cents in. Hopefully, you don’t feel like I was attacking you or anything like that. If so, my fault.

by sfgfan on Jun 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No hard feelings at all

I love you guys…

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 23, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOOOOO I Killed the discussion!!!

Ok, This will jump start it – This may be me continuing to think that next year’s draft will mirror this past year’s draft (in that there wasn’t a wealth of super-talent), but I think it would be more valuable to package the two #1’s we have, and trade up for a high value #1 (of course, how high will be dependant on the value of our two #1’s). Two above average players are nice, but I would like one superstar on the team.

Now, who that superstar will be, I’m not sure (I would like to see the action in the upcoming NCAA season to get a better idea of that)… But thoughts? Give me some guidance people!

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 24, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Eh.

For a team with many needs, but not in places that require top 10 picks (except at QB), I don’t think the 49ers need to trade up. I’d hope that they can land players in the secondary and at OLB in the second half of the first round.

I would really like to see them parlay next year’s second rounder into a future #1 again, though, that’s for sure. This is especially true if they end up actually using both first rounders on players.

by sfgfan on Jun 24, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's WAYYYYYYYY too early to make any kind of decision along those lines

We don’t know where our two picks will be. We don’t know what our needs will be. We don’t know who will be available if we trade up. We don’t know which high-value #1s will avoid injury and still look high-value in a year.

I mean, let’s take the most obvious example. Let’s suppose that Alex Smith follows up on the early reports of him looking very good, has a great preseason, wins the starting job, and starts looking a quality NFL starter. I’ll say up front that I think this is unlikely, but not impossible. All of a sudden, the notion that we should trade our two picks for a top QB becomes very, very dumb.

What’s our free-safety situation look like, going into the next draft? What about our OLB situation? None of us know. They could be positions of vital need. They could be positions where we have league-average starters. One or the other could be positions where we’re very happy with our player. Heck, maybe Crabtree and Morgan can’t deliver, and we desperately need a WR. Maybe Willis blows out his knee, and that’s the end of that. Are we going to need DE or NT help? Possibly, can’t tell.

The only thing we know for sure is that we’re going to need an RT of the future. But that’s not usually a guy you have to pick in the top ten to get.

Patience is a virtue. Be virtuous. I know it’s the offseason and there isn’t a lot to write about … but really it’s time to chill out, have a beer, enjoy the sunshine … and relax. There will be plenty of time to strategize about next year’s draft when we actually know what we need.

by Ronaldinho on Jun 29, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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