Niners Nation All-Time team redux?

by David Fucillo on Jun 25, 2009 12:20 PM PDT in San Francisco 49ers News

Last year (and early into this year) we put together a Niners Nation All-Time 49ers team for every position on the field. In putting together that roster, the vote tallies never rose to more than 350-400 voters on a given position. Certainly a good turn-out, but we can definitely do better now.

So, I'm thinking that we could re-open the ballots for many of these positions and start from scratch for many of them. After a mere 377 votes, John Taylor edged out Terrell Owens by only 25 votes. If we were able to at least double that vote total, who knows what would happen. I realize this is basically recycling old posts, but I think it could generate some new discussion. Additionally, for the most part I don't expect to use the voting piece as the primary post of the day. It will be something to suppliment our normal posting.

I wanted to post this intro post just to see if there are any changes worth making heading into the new balloting, and also if folks have a major problem with doing something like this. A lot of our current readers were not around last offseason so they never had the opportunity for this kind of vote. If you click on the above link you'll be able to go through all the positions. Some positions were automatics (#1 WR: Rice, #1 S: Lott) but we had a lot of interesting contentious battles. I also might add in a body or two to certain positions if folks are down for that.

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Sad not to see these guys not listed

Many of the names listed below were on the 1981 squad that that took the league by storm and put the niners into the SB in sweet 16. It wouild be great if we could have a list of starters and back ups so that we can include all the of the great players many of whom are Hall of Fame guys but perhaps not as well known.. Not many will rember Kieth Fahnhorst as an example and I would agree that Rice, Taylor are worthy of the starter roll but come on DC made the “catch:” man, a dirty shame not have his name listed.

Offense

RT- Keith Fahnhorst
WR-Dwight Clark
WRreddie Solomon
TE Russ Francis
TE Earl Cooper
LG-John Ayers

Defense

LB- Kena Turna
LB- Jack Reynolds
DE- Dwaine Board
NT- Manu Tuiasosopo
SS-Carlton Williamson
LB-Riki Ellison

by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 25, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions

roster

Well, we only had a limited number of spots at each position, thus the reason for balloting. For example, Dwight Clark was on the ballot for the #2 receiver spot, but going against TO and John Taylor, he never really had a chance. By opening it back up for voting, maybe he does better this time. Doubtful, but who knows.

by David Fucillo on Jun 25, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Just wanted lobby for perhaps a list for second team.

I do understand that based on votes there only enough spots at least for starters.. I am not really concerned about wheter a particular player is a starter or not , just wanted to give credit to those heros who have made sigificant contribution to the sucess of the 9ers over the years but didn’t make the “A” list.

Also did I miss something or are we not voting yet?

by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 25, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions

not voting yet

I wanted to get feedback before starting the vote. I’m thinking we’ll have the first “re-vote” next Monday or Tuesday.

As far as the less known players, I figure just including them in the vote is sufficient for now. We could go on all day given how many great players have played for the 49ers.

maveric_87 mentioned a slot receiver below and that is certainly one option…adding a third receiver to the mix. At the moment I’m leaning towards just a pair of receivers, but it’s one of many options we can consider revising.

by David Fucillo on Jun 25, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks..

I didn’t get to vote on the first one so I look forward to the next. And I aggree with the “all day” thing, that is why I am a niner fan…

by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 25, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Neither did I

I’d love to be involved in a revote. When I came to ninersnation, the positions were almost finished so I’d love to vote on em all.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

same, I’d love to have a chance to vote

by willis52 on Jun 26, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions

sounds good to me

and in his 4th season, VD broke through the wall, Niners fan rejoiced and all was well in the kingdom. Singletary 3:42

by 49erLou on Jun 25, 2009 1:19 PM PDT reply actions

TO needs to be on the team!

Taylor would be my slot guy. TO has put up far to good of number to not be the number2 guy. If you’re playing just 1 game matched against the best out the NFL has to offer you got to have TO on there b’c he will change the game that much.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 25, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions

TO can be a jerk and yell at everyone all he wants but when it comes to game time he will never let you down and that's a fact.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions

You are right on both accounts maveric-87

TO is a jerk, but he is a damn good receiver.

by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 25, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions

He is one of the best ever. Bar none

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions

One of, maybe...

We need to see what he does with the rest of his career… but he is certainly is a future HOF player

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Looking back at that...

I didnt make too much sense…

Future, HOF, yes.

In the top 5 receivers of all time? Not yet.

Blind devotion.

by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Frankly

I thought TO was a much better receiver when he played for us than he ever has been since.

But maybe I just don’t remember all those dropped balls

by foosball4949 on Jun 25, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions

The OTHER catch

He made his mark in SF when he caught the last min. pass from Steve Young to beat Bret Farve and the Pack. Made Youngs day, as it was the first time he beat them. He did well but not “stellar” because not long after that Rice and Young were both gone and he got into it with Garcia and Coach Moch..

by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 25, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions

He was great his 1st year with the Eagles

But I do think we got the best of him.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jun 25, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Top 5 - Owens is already there [statistically]

He has more recieving yards than Randy Moss and currently sits at 5th overall. He’s only 823 yards away from passing Issac Bruce and claiming the #2 spot. He tied for 4th in total career TD with LaDainian Tomlinson and is only 4 away from overtaking Marcus Allen for #3 all time.

Purely from a statistical production standpoint he’s top 3, probably nudging out Randy Moss for the #2 spot (for the time being). I think people tend to get caught up in hating on him too much and forget just how dominate he’s really been.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jun 26, 2009 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions

I know that it'd be kind of cool...

… to get the opinions of the new posters, but what’ll stop you from doing another set or “re-opening the polls” again next year when the reader base will undoubtedly be even larger?

by sfgfan on Jun 25, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions

good point

I suppose it could potentially turn into an annual summer thing maybe? Sort of an annual measurement of how much the site is growing. And as I mentioned, it won’t be the primary post on any day so you won’t be getting screwed out of original posting material. What do you think?

by David Fucillo on Jun 25, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Annual thing.

I think an annual thing would be pretty cool, or maybe bi-annually (I’m thinking that means every two years, right?). If it happens that frequently, though, it’d be kind of neat to have it move a long a lot faster. If I’m not mistaken, the roster started last offseason and just concluded at some point near the end of the season, right?

by sfgfan on Jun 26, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions

roster

It ended in February. Excluding some of the automatic spots (Walsh, Rice, Nomellini, etc…) we’d be down to 18-20 positions to vote for. I didn’t do much balloting during the season but would definitely carry it in the season to get through it in a quicker fashion.

I’ll post the first one Monday and we’ll see how long it takes to get people voting and then conceivably we could do 2 positions each week and be done before the regular season starts…just one option.

by David Fucillo on Jun 26, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions