What if the 49ers were to move...?
As 49ers fans, we have been quite lucky. We have 5 Super Bowl victories, a plethora of Hall of Fame players (including the best QB and WR in NFL history) and some of the greatest plays in the NFL Film vault. Yep, it's safe to say that living in San Francisco, and being a 49er fan, would make a fan so proud he/she could burst.
Then we get word that a new stadium could be built (YESSSSSS)!!!!
...In Santa Clara...
OK, not bad. It might not be IN San Francisco, but it's in the Bay area. I mean, the New York Jets and Giants play in New Jersey. No worries. As long as those letters on the side of the Helmet are SF, it's all good...
But what if the team moved OUT of the Bay Area? Let's say, theoretically of course, the deal for a new stadium doesn't get done, and the Yorks go so nuts they decide to sell the team (yesssssssss) and the new owner decides the Niners will have a better market somewhere far outside of the Bay area, such as Las Vegas. So the Las Vegas 49ers are born, and the classic SF is replaced by a LV. Then what?
This is something not unfamiliar to the NFC West. Remember back in 1995 when our, what I believe, most hated rivals (historically at least) the Los Angeles Rams were moved to St. Louis because of a poor stadium, and poor stadium attendance. Unthinkable once upon a time. Imagine telling Eric Dickerson that one day, the LA Rams would play in a dome, under the gateway arch, not on the West Coast. Ludicrous!
Upon hearing news of the new Santa Clara stadium plan (and I do stress plan, there are a TON of hurdles that need to be cleared first, that Kawakami points out here), combined with the news that the Rams are for sale and they don't care if the owner wants to move them, some old thoughts climbed back in my head. I was talking with my father (a devout Rams fan) about the team's move to St. Louis in '95. By that point in time, we were living on the East Coast, so it's not like he was regularly attending games, but he still couldn't believe that the team he spent his whole life rooting for was not just changing locations, but changing time zones. He was heartbroken, but I always remembered something he would say concerning his loyalty to the team.
As long as those guys have the horns on the side of their helmet, I love 'em.
Truly a devoted fan, through and through...
But that got the 'What if...' machine running in my head again. What if the 49ers were to move far, far away from San Francisco? Far enough to force a name change and, by nature, a uniform change (since SF on the helmet when playing in, I don't know, Utah, would just seem silly). How would I react? How would I feel? Would I liken it to being dumped by the woman I loved for three years? Or losing a family member? Or would I take it in stride and continue with the same passion I have for the team now?
I know this is a ridiculous premise; the Niners have a fantastic fan base in the Bay area, but so did the Colts in Baltimore. So did the Browns in Cleavland (even though they got their team back... if you can call the Browns a team - PA ZING!). So did the Oilers in Houston. So while a move out of San Fran seems crazy, it is not out of the question.
The question I post to you today Nation; How would you feel if the 49ers were to move far away from San Francisco? (For the sake of arguments, let's define "far away" as more than four hours driving distance away from their current spot in the Bay area.) Would you feel hurt/betrayed? Would you continue to follow them with the same passion you currently had? Would you welcome the move (especially if you live outside the Bay area)? Or would it make no impact whatsoever on you?
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Maybe
Depends on where they moved and under what circumstances.
There are a lot of ways for the team to get a new stadium in the Bay area.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 3, 2009 8:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would have a hard time with it wouldnt be the same. unless they came to Toronto where im from i wouldnt have a problem with it and before anyone jumps all over that statement i know it will NEVER happen because of the Bills and many other factors just a thought
by Mathews on Jun 3, 2009 8:15 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i really dont think its a bad idea to share a stadium with the Raiders.
by Mathews on Jun 3, 2009 8:17 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Focus on CFB
I’d focus 90% of my attention on college football if the 49ers were to leave (right now it’s about 60% CFB, 40% SF 49ers). I’d no longer have a favorite NFL team and would just follow players in the NFL who went to Arizona State (my alma mater).
PT-42
by norcaldevilasu on Jun 3, 2009 8:35 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I would become a Cowboy fan...
I kid, seriously… I give any and all permission to beat me severely if I did as such.
I guess it depends where they moved and if they changed team name (which I suspect they would considering 49er has to do with the Bay Area), I like other teams in the NFL, just nothing like I do SF, so it would all ride on the former statement made. I would however follow them initially ( a year or two, if they were called LV Gamblers or some stupid s like that).
by danknerd49 on Jun 3, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Niners moving
If the Niners move to Santa Clara AND keep the SF logo(and shove it up newsome’s a*s), I will celebrate like there is no tomorrow, as the city of SF and their tree-hugging, illegal alien-loving freaks don’t deserve such a proud franchise anyway. If the Niners move out of the Bay area, like the TRaiders did, I would pack up all of my Niner posters, plaques, newsprint archives, tickett stubs, shirts, hats and other memorabilia and throw them, along with my team loyalty, into the attic and forget about them. Some day my kids can sell them at a yard sale. We will talk about them in the past tense, and face it, we are almost to that point now. The NFL and the city of SF have done all they can to crush the Niners, and its working.
BS
by Brian S on Jun 3, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm ashamed..
That there are 49er fans like you out there.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jun 3, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Um
Are you like a white version of Carlos Mencia?
by Cruithear on Jun 3, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Read: ignorant, racist, confusing, not at all entertaining.
by Cruithear on Jun 3, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
*Votes Republican.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 3, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking as a “tree-hugging, illegal alien-loving freak” that was raised by a “tree-hugging, illegal alien-loving freak” who grew up idolizing hugh mcelhenny and delivered papers to joe perry, i hope the niners do move out of the bay area so folks like you can take your twisted allegiance elsewhere. hate san francisco cos of the weather; hate san francisco cos of MUNI; hate san francisco cos of the earthquakes; but please, don’t hate san francisco cos you subscribe to false “san francisco values” fear-mongering.
by druncan on Jun 3, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The weather?
I love the Bay area weather.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 3, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as they kept the red and gold..
and the niners name i don’t think i would change teams. I live in South Dakota so them leaving the Bay area would not affect me as far as attending games and such. But it would def take some time to get over if they ever did move.
by P.DuByA_52_STUD on Jun 3, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am with you %100.
I’m in Fresno, so I would be upset That I wouldn’t be able to get to a game as easy, but if they keep “49ers” and the Red & Gold, I would still love ‘em. I’ve thought about this before, and if they were to change their name and colors, I wouldn’t have a fallback team. That would suck because I love the NFL.
49ers and TOOL live, my personal Heaven!!!
by CW30 on Jun 3, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I have a twin in Fresno?
I live in the midwest and have been a Niners fan since I was a kid. The move wouldn’t effect me too much since I have never been to a game although that will change this year when I will be going to the season opener in Arizona! Anyway, if they changed the name to something other than the 49ers, I’m not too sure how I would react to that. It’s almost like forgetting all about the history of the 49ers. Maybe I would have to succumb to being a Bears fan because there is no way in hell I would convert to Green Bay or Minnesota.
CW30 – 49ers and Tool live is also my personal heaven! Best team and best band EVER!
by Haggardninja on Jun 5, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Las Vegas
is a good idea, they could build an in-stadium casino and make the tickets dirt cheap.
they could even make a slot machine-type thing where you pay a little more than the average cost of a ticket and it randomly decides where you’ll be sitting. that would be hilarious.
but i think LA is a much more practical idea. there’s millions of people there and one of the suburbs already approved a stadium for the first team to move there.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Jun 3, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Las Vegas?
Man, you just became my best FRIEND!!!!!
by LASVEGASNINER on Jun 3, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering how long it would take you to comment here
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 3, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Las Vegas is a good idea … but I think LA is a much more practical idea …"
I question, sir, whether you are even a 49ers fan at all
"Those boos really motivate me to make something happen." - Bonds
by Persiflage on Jun 5, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Los Angeles...
If the Niners moved down to the despised area of California we call SoCal, I don’t know what I’d do.
Los Angeles 49ers? Would you even keep them as the 49ers? The gold rush is more readily identified with San Francisco than LA, even though it happened all over the state… I guess if they moved anywhere else they’d have even less chance of keeping the “49ers.”
Lake Tahoe 49ers, anyone? Hit the slopes, make a bet on the Niners to crush the opponent, and then head over to the stadium to watch a game!
"I watch the Wings a lot," says Thornton. "They're the NHL's second-best team."
by Swift Kick in the Goc on Jun 3, 2009 9:25 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i've heard the name LA Bandits thrown around.
i like the idea of sounding illegal, but it would probably mean a major uniform overhaul. bandits dont wear red and gold.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Jun 3, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SoCal
Why is it despised?
I wouldn’t want the team to move to LA, but I love Southern California.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 3, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because that's where...
… Dodgers are born.
by sfgfan on Jun 4, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would puke
Everytime I heard the name. LA 49ers . . . just slap a horn on there helmet and change the uniforms to yellow and blue. I’d be extremely bitter the rest of my life. Probably move down into candyland obsessed porno factory just because I couldn’t quite you.
by bignerd on Jun 4, 2009 2:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they moved far enough, to where I couldn’t go watch a game at the stadium, then I wouldn’t be a fan anymore. Why would I like a team that didn’t want to be around it’s fans anymore? That would leave ALL that history behind. That would leave one of the greatest cities in the world behind? I wouldn’t. I would feel betrayed.
Personally, moving to Santa Clara isn’t that bad for me. It’s closer. It’ll have WAY better transportation to and from the stadium. The S.F. 49ers aren’t JUST San Francisco’s team. it’s San Jose’s/Santa Clara, Sunnyvale’s, Mountain View, Los Gatos, Gilroy/Hollister, Redwood City, and all the rest of the little towns and cities around S.F.
This is the San Francisco BAY AREA’s team. It’d be like the L.A. Angel’s of Anaheim if the Niners moved to Santa Clara. They’d be the San Francisco Bay Area 49ers.
Newsom had his chance. S.F. has had 10 years to get the 49ers a new stadium. No, wait, Candlestick was built for baseball, so the 49ers have never really had a stadium. Even after ALL the glory that the team has brought to the city of San Francisco, they have never helped build them a stadium that they could call their own. How many World Series titles have the Giants won in San Francisco?
by aBulldog on Jun 3, 2009 9:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So all those little black dots represent a suicide? Why does light pole #69 have the most?
by aBulldog on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good one,
I would happily sacrifice these poor saps if the Niners would move to PORTLAND.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 3, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be a 49ers Fan no matter what!
So what…..at the end of the day it’s a business. I’ve been a 9ers fan ALL MY LIFE but I guess because I don’t live in SanFran it doesn’t affect me as much…..I guess I’m biased! Just like they said in the beginning, the Giants play in jersey, the Redskins play in Maryland, hell the Colts left Baltimore and hey went and got a new team…..but I still know people in baltimore that root for the colts over the ravens. It’s a business FIRST.
If you really love your team, you’ll love them no matter where they are…..now if you change the 49ers thats when we have a problem. When the Oilers left houston and became the titans I got problems but the Rams left LA and now in St Louis but they’re still the rams……?!?!?!?!?!?!? To each his own
by 49ers4lyfe on Jun 3, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
still a fan
I wouldn’t give up on the 49ers if they moved. I would feel bad not getting to see the games on tv as often, but also not being to share my fandom with children I might have in the future. I grew up watching with my dad, but I think it would be hard to get my kids to root for the 49ers if they were in Portland, Las Vegas, San Antonio or wherever. I think Bill Simmons has addressed something similar to this since he’s a Boston guy, but his children are being raised in LA where he now lives.
As far as Santa Clara, I didn’t like it at first, but I’m ok with it now. Let’s face it, football stadiums are awful investments (10 games a year, 12 if you have home field through the playoffs). Outside of Lambeau and maybe Soldier Field, there isn’t much to sell with about an old stadium. The NFL and fans want new and if I recall correctly, both the Rams and Falcons want new buildings even though their stadiums are less then 25 years old.
As a San Franciscan, I don’t mind having another city pay for it as long as the team is in the Bay Area. I think I might even be ok with them as far away as Sacramento because they would still be in Northern California.
Lastly, I don’t think the blame should lay entirely with Newsom as the 49ers have made plenty of blunders as well. Didn’t Eddie D. and Willie Brown have a stadium plan?
by tenjay on Jun 3, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You may want to ask...
fans in Seattle who had their Sonics ripped out of Seattle, and moved to Jokelahoma. Granted it’s a slightly different scenario, where their team was sold to some outsider, who wanted to move the team to the middle of nowhere, even though they were playing in a renovated arena from 12 years prior. Yes the ‘stick is old and crappy, but you don’t want them leaving the area. Hell, I don’t even live in the bay area, and I still wouldn’t want them leaving, it just seems odd to root for a team in another city, even if its the same team.
by Aluminum Foyle on Jun 3, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're right
You’re right, I would be very sad if the 49ers moved. That’s why I could live with them going to the South Bay.
I also find it a little ironic that I love the SF Giants who are not a homegrown team, but moved/stolen from another city.
by tenjay on Jun 3, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Eddie D. and Willie Brown have a stadium plan?
If I’m not mistaken, their plan asked for loads more of city/tax-payer money. If I’m also not mistaken, the stadium plans fell apart because of Eddie’s legal troubles (i.e. team ownership was up in the air for a long while).
by sfgfan on Jun 4, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
losing the 49ers
thank God for DirecTV. It costs some real money but at least a person won’t miss the games on tv.
Mike McClaskey (mikemccwolf @hotmail.com)
by mikemccwolf on Jun 3, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
would I liken it to being dumped by the woman I loved for three years?
No, I would liken it to being dumped on by the woman I loved for three years.
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Anger
swells up from the dark hidden place inside me… not unlike when I first heard that they wanted to move to Santa Clara… time and perspective have changed my mind about that, but if they left the bay area I don’t think time would ever heal that wound and I would become a Raider fan. Ugg that made me feel dirty but I would do that to myself.
The move would anger the gods and they would never let that happen. So no anger and no worries.
by etb2 on Jun 3, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Always a fan
I spent some time in San Diego and still followed the niners religiously. If they moved away I would always root for them.
Of course it would always depend on the circumstances of the move. If they pulled a Baltimore —> Indy deal or the Cleveland —> Baltimore deal then all bets are off and I hope they burn.
by akamikedavid on Jun 3, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
4 Whole Hours!!!
Are you serious, what if they moved 4 hours away? I live in San Diego, about 35 mins from the Q. I also am a Season ticket holder for the only football team I will ever love the San Francisco 49ers. So when I go to see a game its 8 hrs unless southwest is having some airfare deals. I vividly remember the Raiders, Rams, Oilers, Cleaveland, etc. changes around the league. I also remember each team, excluding the Browns, having success after moving. I of course don’t like the thought of the niners being anything but San Francisco. Think about this though, when we are asked what team our we fans of what is our reply? Niners or the 49ers not San Francisco. It is one of the most beautiful citys in the world. I love visiting. But I’ve been all over the country to watch my team play. I’ve even went that shit hole Arizona to go get berated by a bunch of desert rats who were lucky enough to benifit from another move in the NFL the St. Louis Cardinals… Bastards!!!!
Through the darkest times we see the brightest lights...
by elvisike77 on Jun 3, 2009 11:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just used the 4 hours...
to ensure they were far, far away from the Bay area. I understand many are willing to make that drive, and that its not that bad for some. I just wanted to give a frame of reference so that people would know that the team, in this hypothetical situation, was not SF anymore.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 3, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever!!!
Yeah well OK fine maybe I took it a little to literally!
Through the darkest times we see the brightest lights...
by elvisike77 on Jun 3, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, its fine
Its good to hear a perspective from someone living in San Diago (German for a whale’s vagina) AND a Niner season ticket holder.
Plus, this line;
Think about this though, when we are asked what team our we fans of what is our reply? Niners or the 49ers not San Francisco.
The best point made in this discussion so far.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 3, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's tidbits like this that keep me coming back.
from someone living in San Diago (German for a whale’s vagina)
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
by 49erLou on Jun 3, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
AZ and Niners
I go to the the Niners game every year in AZ. Next time you go send me an email. I’ll be there for opening day as well.
by hudd07 on Jun 3, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The real problem with teams moving is the NFL ownership rules.
Have you ever wondered why teams don’t just go to the bank and take out a loan to build a stadium? The only reason stadiums are a problem is that the teams demand that cities cough up hundreds of millions of $$ to help pay for a privately owned, for-profit enterprise. So why can’t NFL teams go to the bank for a loan? Because they are either sole proprietors or partnerships, and banks don’t like lending large sums to feudal organizations subject to the whims of one, perhaps unstable(see Al Davis), person. If the NFL were to allow teams to sell ownership shares to the public and had a Board Of Directors with the power to change management, I believe bankers would be lining up to loan stadium money.
But simply from a moral standpoint, I don’t believe any city or county should use taxpayer money to assist a for-profit sports team that caters to upper middle-class fans. Public funds are in short supply everywhere these days and should be spent on policemen, firemen, street repair, sewage and water systems, and public transportation, all of which are more important to the public good than a new football stadium. Does anyone here expect the city or county you live in to provide lakes for you to fish and waterski in? How about racetracks, should they be built with public funds? There are more important uses for public funds than building football stadiums for rich guys.
As for the current stadium proposal for Santa Clara, I’m against it because it makes for a very long and unpleasant drive for fans in the North Bay. I would try to put it across the Bay near the Richmond area where land is cheap and the freeway access is much better than SF.
by MontanaPass on Jun 3, 2009 11:29 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Depends on how they move...
I live in Seattle now, so I have been disconnected from the stadium and location nonsense. I feel pretty lucky the ‘Hawks and Niners share the same division so I can see my boys play once a year. I think the only way I would abandon the Niners is if they moved out of Nor Cal AND changed the team name/colors, or the ownership burned the city down on their way out of town*. I would probably become a Seahawks fan then (lots of ex-Niner-turned-’Hawks fans up here; amazing how a Super Bowl appearance does that…) I follow them from afar anyway right now, so as long as they are still the Red and Gold, I would probably still cheer for them.
*All bets are off if they move to Sac-town. They would have my unwavering devotion then. Haha.
by uscar on Jun 3, 2009 12:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
COME TO PORTLAND!!!
I would shit myself. It would be the greatest day of my life.
The Portland 49ers, sounds like beauty.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 3, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Portland
My mom used to live in Corvallis, and when i would fly out to visit her I would fly in through Portland. It really is a nice city. I wouldn’t be horribly upset with that.
If it ever came to that I would be very upset. I’d have a hard time following them if they moved out of state. And lets be honest, if they moved out of the Bay Area, they wouldn’t be the 49ers anymore, nor should they be. The new city wouldn’t have it, and it just wouldn’t make sense. New team name means new team colors and logos.
I’m not happy with the move to Santa Clara at all. Now this is coming from me and I live in Ohio, but for tradition’s sake, I pray to god that we get a miracle deal done in SF to keep the team where they belong.
That's what she said.
by MTNA2RC on Jun 3, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would hope.........
that San Francisco would be more like Cleveland and less like Baltimore and would take whatever means were necessary to keep the team name, logo and uniforms where they belong……………… IN SAN FRANCISCO!
I’m not very thrilled about the move to Santa Clara either, I think that stinks. Kezar/Candlestick is where the winning traditions of the 49’ers were born and played out. Anywhere else just doesn’t feel right.
by biggdawg49 on Jun 3, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
screw sentimentality
we have to do whats best for the future.
excuse me for wanting to be on top again some day.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Jun 3, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 'Stick'
It is not a Football Stadium!! Most of you have visited the Park at sometime in your life to watch the Niners or the Gaints. You know how bad it is. Terrible acess,in or out. Cold and windy. Muddy parking lot.( N. side) Funky seats.The Hill blocks the sun fom keeping the place warm or lit. And Cloudy. It’s not a FB Stadium, It’s a Baseball field. Plain and simple.They buildt Pacbell for the Gaints on the Embaradero. Great location and beautiful stadium. What have they won? Today is the 21st century and If Newson and his cronies don’t want them there and they’re acting like they don’t, then Santa Clara is Okay with me. After all theses years working with S.F. It’s time to move forward. Even if it’s to another town. Be Thankful, it’s not L.A.
by LASVEGASNINER on Jun 3, 2009 3:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd feel really bad
Thing is, I moved from back east so I had to become a Niner fan. I started out, and this will date me, as a New York Titan fan. My dad would take me to games at the old Polo Grounds. I remember watching a game in a heavy snowfall and then riding in the subway back to the Port Authority.
I stayed with them after they moved to Shea Stadium and changed to the Jets, saw Joe Namath his rookie year, but my dad stopped taking me because they were pushing to sell season tickets and we couldn’t afford that. I went nuts when the Jets won that Super Bowl.
After the army and college I came out west. I’d already started routed for the Niners as a secondary team (you know, if their game was on TV and they weren’t playing against someone you liked). And once I got here I was a fan. That was around the time of the first Gold Rush, when the Gold Rush their defensive line.
If they moved away I’d adapt. If they were still on TV every week I’d watch and cheer. Maybe if Al Davis died and better management took over I’d become more of a Raiders fan than I am (I know that’s a sacrilege, but hey…). Right now I wish the Silver and Black well but way too many of their fans are psycho buttheads, so having to be associated with that crowd might be tough.
Then again, I’m getting old, so maybe if the Niners move away I’ll just die.
by Bob On The Coast on Jun 3, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Screw the possible move
Screw a possible move. Sign Greg Ellis NOW! Ahmed Brooks is already giving Sing a hard time. Ellis is good for 8 to 10 sacks this year!
Mike McClaskey (mikemccwolf @hotmail.com)
by mikemccwolf on Jun 3, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
49ers on the move
I’m not to worried about them moving, I’m more interested in whether or not the Yorks would be willing to sell the team or not. I would love it!!!!!!!!!!!! if they sold the team / would be the best news heard in a long time. the Yorks selling the team is long!long !long !long !long over due.Pleasssssssssssssssssssssss sell the team.
by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Jun 3, 2009 6:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Santa Clara
Does anybody here live in Santa Clara?
by iaalexeeff on Jun 3, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
This is an interesting question for me. I grew up in Santa Clara. I graduated from Wilcox in ‘91 and lived in SC untill I was 21. But then I moved. I lived in several citys (NY, Portland, Huntsville Alabama) untill finally setteling down in Utah, where I’ve lived for over the last 10 years. Through all of it I’ve remained loyal to the 49ers, Giants, and Sharks (sorry Warriors, I’m now a Jazz fan). Even though I live over a 1000 miles away, it would hurt if the 49ers moved. Why? Because it’s not the same team I grew up cheering for. This question made me think of what would be acceptable. Here’s the list in desending order:
1) The 49ers stayed in the Bay area
2) They moved to a city in Northern CA ie. Fresno, Sacramento
3) They moved to a city in the West ie. Portland, NV, SLC (Actually, Utah has more 49er fans then any other team. Mostly because Steve Young graduated from BYU and is a mormon and Utah is majority Mormons. And, to a lesser degree, because Alex Smith graduated from the U of U.).
4) They moved outside of the West.
5) They moved to LA. Honestly, Southern CA is the only place they could move that would make me stop being a fan. Seeing the LA 49ers would hurt more than all their playoff loses combined.
In other words, although it would hurt to see them leave the Bay Area, I would still be a fan unless they moved to Southern CA.
by urnext on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree SoCal is the worst
The 49ers are apart of NorCal pride. For 20 years we went down there and beat them senseless to the point that they just gave up on their football team, LA’s superiority complex just couldn’t take it.
If the 49ers moved to LA that city would pretend it was, and always had been their 5 Superbowls, their the flag ship NFL city with a deep history. Let me also mention LA’s massive bandwagon mob would cannibalize any tradition left in the 49ers. I’d rather drop a nuke on Old Yeller and his litter of puppies than see him subject to that scenario.
by bignerd on Jun 4, 2009 2:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even thousands of miles away, that name means something ...
I live in London (not a huge surprise, given the screen name) and there’s been talk of a franchise moving here since the major success of the games at Wembley in 2007 and 2008. Quite apart from the issue of fans across the UK already having their own NFL team based on the sport’s huge popularity here since the 1980s, I think it would be a terrible shame to uproot any team and take them that far away from their fans and history. It would have to be an expansion team, otherwise you’d be destroying the fabric of an existing franchise.
In European sports, it’s very rare for a team to move, and change its name. Teams build new stadiums, but usually only a few miles from their old one, and they don’t change their name. It happened a few years ago here when a football/soccer team moved a hundred or so miles away and changed its name, and there was a national outcry.
You might think that, thousands of miles away, it wouldn’t matter to me whether the 49ers played in San Francisco or Santa Clara, but I am desperately hoping they will still be in San Fran when I get out there to watch a game as soon as I can afford it – I’m hoping to do it for my 40th birthday, and since I’m 32 now, I guess I have half a chance of them still playing at Candlestick Park by that time. If it’s to be Santa Clara, at least they will still be called San Francisco. The history of the name, with its links to the Goldrush, the proud history of the Super Bowl wins, the sheer class of the uniforms and logo – those all feel like things not to be given up lightly – if I’d be devastated to see the team leave San Francisco, all the way over here and not ever having been lucky enough to see a game live and in the flesh, I can only imagine how upsetting it would be for some of you guys who actually live in that great city and have been to watch the team through thick and thin.
by LondonNiner on Jun 4, 2009 1:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only 45 minutes away.
I used to live in Santa Clara, and I could drive to the Stick in about 45 minutes. Maybe it’s worse now, I haven’t lived their since ‘94, but it’s still the Bay Area. Not to mention, since their practice field is in Santa Clara, it would probably be easier on the players if the stadium was right next to it.
by urnext on Jun 4, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santa Clara isn’t that far away from San Fran. People in the bay area pretend it’s a flight across the country because it’s one of the few American cities that uses public transportation. Also it has residents that actually work within walking distance of the place they live.
by bignerd on Jun 4, 2009 2:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The name 49er
would make no sense in any town but SF. Frankly, I don’t care if they move or where (as long as it ain’t texas). I want them to stay in SF, just because 49er is so unique. Damn hippie tree hugging mexican loving rainbow flag waving folks in SF (tongue in cheek, making fun of dude earlier. Had to clarify, cause my name has arkie in it) Build in SF for crying out loud.
by Arkie49er on Jun 4, 2009 5:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The Science
Did the origional Browns fans become Ravens fans? Did the Origional Colts fans remain Colts fans when they moved to Indianapolis? To relocate a team from its region is one thing. But to revamp the entire team( Uniforms,Name,Personnel) that would be an entirely different matter. I became a football fan thanks to the 49ers. That is my team. I get mad when we loose, or make stupid decisions in the front office ala( not doing right by Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens, Julian Peterson, Andre Carter) I am a New Yorker, however I love the San Fransisco 49ers. If they Move out of the city it would effect the fans who make the team who they are. San Fran has great fans. Fans boost the morale of the team. So, my concern is about loosing the fanbase. Are the season ticket holders, and other fans going to be able to commute to Santa Clara? I guess that is the risk the owners are willing to take. If they make over the team for example( South Dakota Cyotes) I will root for my hometolwn teams N.Y. Giants, and Jets exlusively.
by STELF BOMBZ on Jun 4, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Are the season ticket holders, and other fans going to be able to commute to Santa Clara?
I don’t know about “other fans,” but one could take a stab in the dark and assume that most of the season ticket holders are probably from somewhere in the South Bay and have a high probability of being right.
by sfgfan on Jun 4, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the sound of The Sacramento 49ers
by resonate on Jun 4, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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