Hopefully this ends Michael Vick to the 49ers discussion
by Fooch on Jun 8, 2009 2:43 PM PDT
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Given how antsy folks can get in the offseason, it's no surprise that Michael Vick was on the radar for many 49ers fans. The team has QB issues, he's the "sexy" topic of the offseason, it makes sense. I've never bought into it, but plenty of people have enjoyed discussing it.
Hopefully, Matt Barrows post today will end any realistic discussion of Vick donning a 49ers uniform anytime soon. Barrows posted some comments Scot McCloughan made on Sirius NFL Radio this morning:
Host, Jim Miller: "Two lightning rods this off-season are Brett Favre and Michael Vick. Any discussions on the potential - there have been whispers out there - that possibly San Francisco could be a landing spot for Michael Vick?"
Scot McCloughan: "Well, I think what happens there, and I totally respect it, is people understand who Mike Singletary is and understand that he has no problem giving guys second chances. Coach and I have sat down. We sat down and talked last week. We had an off-week of OTAs and we discussed about Michael Vick and we're not going to go that route. We will not do it."
Host, Adam Schein: "So Michael Vick is not on the radar for the 49ers?"
McCloughan: "Correct."
I'd imagine still might pine over the guy, but hopefully it's finally safe to say, this is just not gonna happen. Nobody will ever say "never ever," but saying, "We will not do it" seems about as close as you can get.
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Michael Vick
I never thought the Niners were ever interested in Vick. I just don’t think they wanted the press headache that comes with him.
by 49er16 on Jun 8, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
is it really the gms choice
usually i thought the head coach gets to have the call
dunno but i wouldnt want him here and then get hill to shine on someone elses team
vote nate davis as holder of the 49ers future
message has been approved by the davis party and nate davis himself
by big beaner on Jun 8, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The whole...
… point of a GM is that he’s the manager of the coaching staff and/or players. The GM provides a coach players, and the coach decides who will play.
by sfgfan on Jun 8, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Vick
I agree with the 9ers not going after Vick, with Singletary as head coach, hopefully he can push our D to be better and we can gut out some wins. Especially since we now have 2 1st rounders next year, we hopefully are able to get Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy to steady our QB for the future.
by Dhuang on Jun 8, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like I thought
Not to make this a religious tract at all, but Mike Singletary is a Christian and part of his faith is that every soul can be saved, including M. Vick. Somebody asked the Coach a question about Vick and when he didn’t go on a rant condemning the man that somehow got interpreted by some of the sportswriters as interest. At the time there were a lot of people who thought that the Niners moved too quickly signing up Sing, were hoping for Shanahan et al, and wanted to push this to embarrass him. It took four months for the story to finally be killed.
by Bob On The Coast on Jun 8, 2009 5:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
vick
glad we can finally put that rumor to bed. Never wanted him. I don’t think he would be a significant upgrade over what we have in order to put up with all the bad publicity. Now if Brady goes out and gets in trouble for dog fighting sign me up on the Brady by the Bay Bandwagon.
by hudd07 on Jun 8, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
after what happened with Barry Bonds and the Giants, I don’t think any of the other San Francisco teams would want to have somebody who has been in trouble with the law and have a media circus, which would also put a lot more stress on all the staff in the organization
by ro128487 on Jun 8, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
style
I think that his style is different than what Singletary and Raye are trying to establish here. If you think about Vick, he was a scrambler. He made plays on his feet. I think that the dog thing wouldn’t keep him from coming here. A team like the dolphins with all of their wildcat shenanigans should try and get him.
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 8, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick is not the "sexy" subject this offseason...
That would have been Jay Cutler Fooch. That would have been sexy. You know the franchise QB that ALL of you seem satisfied by NOT getting. I, on the other hand, would have been satisfied even being in the news for trying to land him but Scotty can’t close a deal to save his life OR doesn’t have the power to do so. Anyway you slice it-we’ll swim in mediocraty for another season until someone in the organization grows a sack. I love all the blogs on signing Joe Staley and our long snapper for god sake. WHO CARES. Josh Morgan and Shaun Hill are coming along??? Hillarious. We are still the joke our division. Wait, my bad…forgot about the Rams. So we share in the humiliation I guess.
As much as it wil pain all of you to admit, we’re no better than last year. What a dissapointing off season…AGAIN. Now before you tell me how excited you are about Joe Staley and Dre Bly…just take a minute to imagine how different this blog would be had we negotiated AND WON Jay Cutler. Imagine the buzz around this team right now. I bet Seattle and Arizona would have a much different game plan for us. That’s what happens when you have a franchise QB. You win games. Period.
Cheers all,
Your good friend Fortty9er4life.
by Forttyner4life on Jun 8, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No better?
We have a hawt new WR option, someone to spell Gore, and hopefully Hill gets a chance to prove himself. You can piss and moan about Cutler until you are blue in the face, but we are better than last year. I wish we had used those 2 picks we traded to improve our D, but the fact is, upgrades are upgrades. And on top of that, we didn’t lose any key players.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 5:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way would any team ever...
Lie or use misdirection on what their actual goals are now would they?
Vick is still option, I honestly believe that… do I think he will be wearing a Niners uni come this season? 50/50
by danknerd49 on Jun 8, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
McCloughan is not a liar
Like most GMs….
Before the draft he publicly stated that he would have liked to pick either Crabtree or acquire 1st round pick for 2010…..he did both of those things.
He has no problem telling the truth, I believe him.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 8, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
It seems McCloughan chooses to be vague if he wants to hide something. If he’s coming out to say something though, it’s probably going to be truth.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree....
To top McCloughan off, if him and Sing both talked about it and they decided Vick was a no, do you think Sing would change his mind? He is the most decisive man ever, if he decided against it, then he is against it.
by hudd07 on Jun 9, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not Michael Vick
I think that the Niners would only be interested in aquiring Michael Vick if and only if they believed he could start…and that must not be the case. 49ers are not a team that can afford to pay him to sit on the bench and at most play in special situations…
I think this doesn’t bold well for Michael Vick because I don’t think may teams are.
by eastboyd2009 on Jun 8, 2009 8:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raiders?
If J.R. bombs this year they could bring in Vick……he kind of fits their offense right?
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 8, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The raiders
Where talent goes to die…Works for me.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 5:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
+++!
“Where talent goes to die.” That’s great. Maybe they can paint that on a billboard at Oakland Coliseum.
by Bob On The Coast on Jun 9, 2009 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cried
when they drafted D-Mac. So very sad. He coulda been somebody…he coulda been a contenda
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Commentary
The question of whether or not Mike Vick is moral enough, qualified "fit the mold to play for the Forty Niners is not an issue that any of us can or should comment on in this blog. The fact is that Vick did some very despicable things and was charged, tried, and convicted of his crime should not be an issue regarding his ability as a player. Having paid his dept to society. I personally do not believe that Vick is the answer to the current 9er QB needs. Perhaps later this year if Hill, or Smith prove inadequate then other considerations need to looked at ( I don’t believe that will be the case).
If in the future any NFL team should consider Vick as a viable candidate for a position on their respective team is not an issue that I or anyone else should be concerned about.
by WC-Ninerhead on Jun 8, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You're beating a dead horse
This has been exhausted….why bring it up?
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 8, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a dead horse
Screw vick. I hate him for what he did, and never want to see him in red and gold. I don’t care if he ever plays football again, as long as it isn’t for my team. Standards seperate the 49ers from teams with no scruples. I don’t want that to fall by the wayside. The man is trash, and doesn’t DESERVE to be a 9er.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 5:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I care.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must be the only one
Can someone make a poll to see who really cares about Mike Vick?
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 9, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
vick
I’d rather have him on the niners than have him on the opposing team on gameday…
by mvp4gman on Jun 9, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I want Vick
No o-line? No problem. Problem solved. And he’s proven he can win. Madden cover anyone? GM lies, bring Vick to SF.
I'm talking about Mountain Dews baby.
by GSWhode on Jun 9, 2009 1:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank God i didnt want to find another team to cheer for but if we signed Vick i would have strongly considered it, good to hear
by Mathews on Jun 9, 2009 6:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
This is the only circumstance I have come up with in which I would no longer be a 9er fan. Just couldn’t do it. and THAT would suck.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dramatic
I think that’s a bit dramatic for both of you to say. I know you feel it in your hearts that you would give up the Niners but REALLY? You aren’t a diehard fan then that’s for sure. Niners could sign TO again and I’d still love them. Bring Pacman here and I’m a fan. Heck, if you could be a fan in the Donahue and Nolan Era is Vick really that bad? lol. The point of sports is to Win and Entertain. The Niners wouldn’t stop doing that just because they sign Vick. This isn’t a church that we are joining. The Pastor isn’t a child molestor. It’s entertainiment. What he did was morally wrong, and do I want him NO. But I would NEVER stop being a fan. I mean say they sign Vick, whose fan do you become? Cowboys, yuck. Raiders, never. Steelers, bandwagon. Patriots, no way, hate everything about Boston teams. I just couldn’t do it. You too should be ashamed of yourselves and if I were Fooch, I’d boot you off this website. We don’t need nor want, fairweather fans.
by hudd07 on Jun 9, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Niners could sign TO again and I’d still love them. Bring Pacman here and I’m a fan.
This. While I definitely like players on the 49ers and root for more than the jersey, I think it’s pretty easy for a fan to support their team without liking specific players on that team.
There are people who think Brandon Jones is a waste of space, but come gameday, if he helps them win, then “oh well.”
People think Mark Roman is a waste of any team’s roster space, but come gameday, you’ll still root for him to make plays.
Heck, there were times last year when fans gave up O’Sullivan, but I’m sure that didn’t stop them from hoping he can come out of his funk.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No sure who exactly you think you are
But Winning and Entertainment are not all there is to sports or life. If your philosophy is this shallow, and your standards this low, that speaks about you. Not everyone shares the view that winning and entertainment are everything. I have been a fan for very long time. I’m sure as HELL not a fairweather fan. The fact that you make that statement tells me that you simply don’t understand where I’m coming from. I would likely stop watching pro football all together, at least for a while. I wouldn’t care if they signed TO, or Pacman. Hell, they could sign Tony Homo for all I care, I would stay. But I will never root for Michael Vick. Even if they went to the SB because of it. That is the opposite of a “fairweather” anything. There are some things more important to some of us than winning. Belittle, laugh, yawn do whatever the hell you want, but I will never root for vick. More disturbing than the fact that I wouldn’t is the fact that so many of you would. You don’t care? It’s not a church? Listen to your damn self! You have no standards at all. On top of that you try to belittle ME for HAVING standards. I love the 9ers, and it would dang near kill me to not root for them. If another team picks up Vick, fine with me. I hope we demolish them. I simply will never root for that creature. Am I being judgemental? Damn right I am. I’m glad he did his time, that doesn’t mean he is forgiven by everyone. Part of being a criminal, you live with the stigma. I’m not saying I want him bagging groceries either. Hope you can understand the difference, but frankly if you can’t it’s no skin off my nose. This is my view and I have the right to express it.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 10, 2009 5:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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