Early 49ers Madden 2010 ratings
by iaalexeeff on Jun 8, 2009 9:36 PM PDT
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Hello 49ers fans, and especially 49ers fans who play Madden. I have come here with the early ratings. For this years Madden they have redone the rating system to so how the elite players are truly elite (Peyton Manning 99 Alex Smith 67)
I was extremely mad after the final roster update for Madden 2009. The 49ers ended up being a 70. Which isn't that bad. The part that bother me was that the Rams, Raiders, Chiefs, Browns etc where higher than us. We were the second worst team (Ahead of the Lions of course). That 70 made me really pissed off. I have found from a sports video game website that I go to (pastapadre.com) many, many, many, ratings for Madden 2010. Of course, I didn't write down all the rating because that would be ridiculous. I don't have all the player ratings, but I do have about half of the team that would be on the 53 man roster. Also I have they rookie rating from awhile back (they may have gone up). So the 49ers will a 73 overall. Which isn't that bad (it would go up with roster updates during the season). I will post all the team overall ratings in order so you get a sense where the 49ers line up against the rest of the league.
1.New England Patriots 93
2. Pittsburgh Steelers 92
3. New York Giants 89
4. Philadelphia Eagles 88
5. San Diego Chargers 88
6. Tennessee Titans 87
7. Indianapolis Colts 87
8. Arizona Cardinals 86 (hope this will go down)
9. Dallas Cowboys 85
10. Carolina Panthers 83
11. Baltimore Ravens 82
12. Atlanta Falcons 81
13. Minnesota Vikings 80
14. Washington Redskins 79
15. Chicago Bears 79
16. Buffalo Bills 78
17. New York Jets 78
18. Green Bay Packers 78
19. Seattle Seahawks 77
20. Miami Dolphins 77
21. Houston Texans 75
22. New Orleans Saints 74
23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers 74
24. San Francisco 49ers 73 (Will definitely go up)
25. Jacksonville Jaguars 71
26. Oakland Raiders 71
27. Denver Broncos 70
28. Kansas City Chiefs 69
29. Cleveland Browns 68
30. Cincinnati Bengals 67
31. St. Louis Rams 66
32. Detroit Lions 65
So here are the early ratings of the 49ers. THEY ARE NOT FINAL!
| ALL | 49ers overall | 73 | ||
| QB | Shaun Hill | 69 | ||
| RB | Frank Gore | 91 | ||
| MLB | Patrick Willis | 98 | ||
| QB | Alex Smith | 67 | ||
| WR | Josh Morgan | 74 | ||
| OLB | Manny Lawson | 72 | ||
| OLB | Parys Haralson | 76 | ||
| DE | Justin Smith | 83 | ||
| WR | Jason Hill | 66 | ||
| TE | Vernon Davis | 78 | ||
| C | Eric Heitman | 77 | ||
| CB | Dre' Bly | 77 | ||
| MLB | Takeo Spikes | 78 | ||
| T | Marvel Smith | 80 | ||
| CB | Nate Clements | 84 | ||
| SS | Michael Lewis | 80 | ||
| WR | Michael Crabtree | 84 | ||
| RB | Glen Coffee | 69 | ||
| TE | Bear Pascoe | 63 | ||
| WR | Brandon Jones | 70 | ||
| CB | Walt Harris | 76 | ||
| T | Joe Straley | 85 | ||
| K | Joe Nedney | 83 | ||
| DT/DE | Ricky Jean-Francois | 68 | ||
| QB | Nate Davis | 67 | ||
| MLB | Scot McKillop | 67 | ||
| RB | Kory Sheets | 69 | ||
| RT | Alex Boone | 65 | ||
| SS | Curtis Taylor |
61 |
| FB | Moran Norris | 77 | ||
| G | Chilo Rachal | 80 | ||
| G | David Baas | 77 | ||
| P | Andy Lee | 92 |
They are not in any order. I just scanned through the comments (people requested ratings). Of course there are some missing. Bruce and Goldson, Sopoaga, etc. I will try to find those out. Please discuss if you agree/disagree with the ratings.
I think most of the are pretty fair with the new rating system. When we dominate during the season. If you have a Xbox 360 or PS3 and you haven't gotten any the recent Maddens, than I highly reccomend that you get this one. Everything looks so much better. We could also use this as a general Madden thread since I don't think there is one.
There are a lot of new features in this years game. To me the coolest is the online franchise. You can play franchise online (to use the great features) or with 31 other people. The coolest part is that you can update your depth chart/other things on the internet through EA or an iphone app. There are a lot of new things so here is a link to general features: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madden_NFL_10
If you want to see some videos of Madden 2010 look here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/pastapadre?blend=2&ob=1
NOTE: THESE ARE NOT THE FINAL RATINGS. THEY WILL CHANGE. ALSO THEY WILL CHANGE WILL ROSTER UPDATES DURING THE SEASON.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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I like how madden 10
is making more of a difference between good and bad.
Last years game was the best since they’ve made for the 360 and PS3 console. Hopefully they remove all the glitches in 09 going into 10. The QB walk isn’t fun at all.
P.S
More then willing to beat one here on NN at Madden 09. Just offer up your Gamertag (360) or message mine, which is Heir to Gawd
by supraman on Jun 8, 2009 10:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Xbox live gamertag=DaLastFilirican
im down for the challenge.
49er faithful since July 11, 1985
by J2daZ on Jun 8, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
gamertag: shlecko
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 8, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gamertag - HochulisBiceps
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 9, 2009 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GAMERTAG HAHA
360 is so weak Let me know if someone wants to play on a real console PS3 i will own you on madden 09
cppeter
by foreveryoung66 on Jun 9, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
finally someone else with a PS3
thought i was the only one
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
by 49erLou on Jun 9, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PS3s are great.
I love the free online. Too bad I only have Madden 08, and only for the Wii.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am a cheap bass-tard, so I don't pay to play online
Besides, I am one of those nerds who likes franchise mode. The could remove that LAME superstar mode and add in some better features. Does ANYONE use that thing?
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
in games, I fail at D. Don’t know why, just fail at it. Always crazy high scores.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same, I can't cover for [site decorum]
That why I love playing with the chargers. Fantastic passing game, and LT tears up teams, so I can outscore the opponent since my Defense is Offensive
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
same
franchise was fun but i like superstar mode better hope they make franchise and superstar mode better
vote nate davis as holder of the 49ers future
message has been approved by the davis party and nate davis himself
by big beaner on Jun 9, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Superstar mode
I would really like Superstar mode if they made it so you only controlled the particular player you are responsible for. Heck, it’d be even cooler if they could do it in first person or even a more focused third person. It’d add to the realism that that mode is somewhat severely lacking.
by sfgfan on Jun 11, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm
You do control only your player.
If you set the option to CPU control when the superstar is off the field you don’t get to play on downs where the superstar is sitting out.
I do agree that a 1st person point of view would be pretty cool.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 11, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But...
… you have to sit through the offensive series, no? Or does it skip through all of that?
The version of “Superstar Mode” I’ve previously played for the Wii gives you control of the entire game, like you were playing a regular game. So pardon me if I’m missing out on some (obviously) cool features from the 360 and/or PS3.
by sfgfan on Jun 11, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get the option to do whatever you want
If you want to play the whole game you can or you can just control your own player when on the field.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can just control your own player when on the field.
But if you go with this option, do you have to watch your offense play?
by sfgfan on Jun 11, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't speak for the wii version...
but ps3, 360 and PC versions all grant you control over your player – and each time he steps off the field you have the option to watch the game progress or sim through plays until he’s back in the game.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 11, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.
I really need to find myself some cash to get a 360 or PS3. I didn’t try ’09’s Superstar Mode, but I would love to be able to just play my ILB spot when the team is on defense and sim through the offensive series. That’d increase playability for that mode (for me) dramatically.
by sfgfan on Jun 12, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wii
On ‘09 for a Wii you can play all your superstar’s plays in the first person and then play normally for all other plays.
I have a LB and control only him when he is on the field. For all other plays I control the offense or defense normally. Only frustrating thing is I have no play-calling ability aside from audibles.
by booya on Jun 22, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if you go with this option, do you have to watch your offense play?
Unfortunately, yes.
(unless I haven’t noticed an option to do otherwise)
Ps. I use Wii too.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 11, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can choose to fast forward to when you are on the field next if you don’t want to watch the offense play or defense play.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 12, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I just sim the entire year and play if I make it to the playoffs.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 12, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All I do is franchise
who needs personal interaction?
by foosball4949 on Jun 11, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love Franchise mode!
Also play online but franchise is my love. Built the 9ers new stadium on every madden game since they implemented create a stadium. Even used the design they have for the Santa Clara site. My 1 complaint is that unless you have the online software update, there are several bugs in franchise mode.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also do my own roster updates.
I never like the roster updates provided so I do em myself. Been doing it long enough that I’m very fast at it so it’s not as time consuming as it was before. I update EVERY team. I just hate their ratings. Never agree with them.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Sheets and Coffee both a 69?
Surely that will change.
Gore a 91 is beautiful, as is Willis at 98. Smith is a little slighted with an 83, and I thik Staley’s 85 is well deserved. Everything looks pretty accurate, not too bad.
by Andrew Davidson on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eric Heitman could have used some love.
The fact that he has a (marginally) lower rating than Vernon Davis makes me wonder if these people know anything about the players they’re assigning numbers to.
Also, I think that Crabtree, at 84, is overrated. I’m sure he’ll be good eventually, but I don’t see how a rookie can justify that kind of rating in this new system.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 9, 2009 2:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I think that Crabtree, at 84, is overrated. I’m sure he’ll be good eventually, but I don’t see how a rookie can justify that kind of rating in this new system.
I agree, but I’m not gonna complain, it was just too hard trying to beat people with Vernon Davis as the biggest receiving threat last year.
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 9, 2009 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that he has a (marginally) lower rating than Vernon Davis makes me wonder if these people know anything about the players they’re assigning numbers to.
True, but its gotta be difficult to be assigned to “create” Vernon. Seriously, try the creating a TE with Davis’ speed, strenght leaping ability, and blocking skills….you have to have to give him hands of stone to keep him from being better than Gates, Gonzalez and Witten.
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 9, 2009 3:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't forget terrible route-running.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I think that Crabtree, at 84, is overrated. I’m sure he’ll be good eventually, but I don’t see how a rookie can justify that kind of rating in this new system.
I agree, and it leads me to question their rating system for rookies, then. I understand the increasing of the gap between “elite” and “bad” players, but that poses a bit more subjectivity in terms of rating the rookies. It’s easy to look at a veteran’s body of work and determine if they’re worthy of an 80s to 90s rating or a 50s and 60s rating. However, how can the developers (or whomever assigns grades) justify giving a rookie who knows nothing about the NFL game yet a higher grade than an “average” player who is probably as solid as they come in terms of hands and knowing his assignments in his scheme? I know we don’t see Bruce’s or Battle’s ratings, but I highly doubt that they’re higher than 84.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
He was arguably the best prospect in the draft. The problem probably lies in the progression of a player. I’m not very studied up on how players progress thru the seasons, whether it’s thru performance or just weekly training, but it’s no fun (which begs the point of this being a video game) to draft the best prospect in the draft and then having it take 5 seasons before he breaks the 80 pt. barrier . For example, if Bruce and Battle [and Jones] are rated above Crabtree that would make Crabtree a bench player and while we all know that rookies can progress mightily from the bench I imagine that process is had to translate in a video game. Again I don’t know how they have the progression of players set up in the games (ie younger players tend to make bigger jumps than older players, etc.) but it seems like they offset the learning curve of rookie with higher starting ratings (at least for the top end prospects).
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 9, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
This makes sense. I understand the idea that you want your top rated prospect to make an immediate impact (in Madden, I tend to trade into at least one of the top 10 spots in almost every draft). Waiting for 4 or 5 years for Crabtree to reach “elite” status is quite some time, especially if many players of the game don’t play much beyond a couple franchise years.
I guess it kind of, as you point out, boils down to the fact it is a game, and having your elite rookie contribute sooner is probably a lot more fun than him having to take time to develop.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't really understand how Staley managed an 85, to be honest. He isn't anywhere near as good at his position as, say,
Eric Heitmann.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The left tackle position is one of the hardest positions to play in football because most teams put their best pass rusher on that side because it’s on the QB’s blindside.
I’m not saying that heitmann doesn’t deserve a higher rating be cause he does, he IS one of the best centers in the league and that’s why the niners re-signed him to that deal
by ro128487 on Jun 15, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally...
I think Center is harder to play than Left Tackle.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that left tackle isn't hard to play.
But according to the relative value of these rankings in Madden 10, 85 is an above average starter. Something Joe Staley isn’t. Something Eric Heitmann is.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
Joe Staley is an above average starter. Staley’s rating is about right your beef should only be that Heitmann is underrated not that Staley is overrated.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 7:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
Staley is below average as a run blocker, and about average (maybe above a bit) as a pass blocker. Obviously, he’s still got tons of room to improve though.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 18, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disagree
I’d take Staley over half of the NFL LT, thus making him above average. Pass protection is highly more critical for a LT than a run blocking.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 19, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention...
… that the notion he’s a weak run-blocker is kind of odd. The guy could have stuck at RT if Jennings had ever learned to stay healthy, probably implying he is more than a capable run-blocker.
by sfgfan on Jun 19, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or that the Niners
Don’t have anyone better to fill the position. Which considering the state of the line th epast few years, doesn’t mean much.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 19, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
Because of age, maybe, but as of now, Joe Staley is not a great left tackle.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean, I wouldn't even call Staley as of now an above average tackle.
Per ProFootballFocus:
in the running game he’s very poor indeed and may well be the most flimsy blocker of all NFL Tackles. Inside, outside, bull-rushed, Joe is consistently beaten by nearly every DRE he faces and if it wasn’t for a dominating display against the inconsistent Dewayne White of Detroit in week 3, the picture would be even worse.
Obviously, run-blocking isn’t the end-all be-all of tackles but it’s not like he’s some studly pass-protector who nullifies the edge-rush or something yet to make up for that.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
left tackle
I think most of us would agree he’s not a great left tackle yet. I don’t know if he’ll ever be a Hall of Fame tackle, but given his development thus far, I think he’ll turn into a very good left tackle. I’d certainly like to see huge progress this year, but I also know it takes a little time.
by Fooch on Jun 19, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can see him improving if at least because there are no more huge drop backs.
But on the flip side, is his run blocking going to improve rapidly enough to fit in with Raye’s smashmouth attack?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's entirely possible
Considering he’s only been in the league two years and at his current position for one, I do think it’s possible. Obviously I could be wrong, but I’ll take my chances with him. And clearly the 49ers have confidence in him at this point to continue his development.
by Fooch on Jun 19, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Willis is actually a 198, the third digit just doesn’t show up
Thing A
by sam23 on Jun 9, 2009 3:38 AM PDT reply actions 6 recs
+1
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+198
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I guess when copying the numbers it didn't show up
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 11, 2009 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a note for Madden Rankings
ESPN.com/videogames is rolling out the complete team rankings for every team in Madden 10, one per day. Yesterday was the Bears, today is the Packers. Obviously, the NFC North is this week; they don’t have a schedule for when each team goes up, but you might want to keep an eye on it for when the Niners (or the NFC West in general) comes up…
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 9, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
69 for shawn hill is not only lame it’s a smack in the face! He doesn’t get enough respect, and I actually believe he will be a (Matt Cassell) type of QB, and pan out pretty good. I think he deserves at least a 75 QB… I’m pissed.
by Tuckforce1 on Jun 9, 2009 7:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah,
I was thinking 72-74 on Hill after how he did the end of last season. Smith and Nate Davis have the same score. That’s not right.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 9, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, Shaun Hill doesn't have the luxury of Randy Moss and Wes Welker.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goldson is a 62
tarrell brown a 59
add them to the list!
by june8thjrat on Jun 9, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
wherez
old brucee
and im gonna be beasting it with crabtree in madden 10
by Italian King on Jun 9, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get where they rank the Pats above the Steelers. I
by KingsAs49erSharks on Jun 9, 2009 11:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's one point...
… and head to head with Brady at the helm (with the current incarnation of teams), I’d take the Pats any day.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might
Have to start Nate Davis….
He’s rated the same as Smith…
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 9, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate Davis
Estimated Stats
Throw Power: 96
Throw Accuracy: 79
Awareness: 32
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 10, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throw Power...
… is the hardest attribute to improve in Madden, at least on any of the previous PS2 and Wii versions (i.e. you can only improve power through a “Training Camp” drill). Davis would become a super QB in two or three years if those were his ratings on the Wii (assuming they don’t change the player improvement algorithm).
by sfgfan on Jun 10, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
32 awareness?
That’s horrible!
I do agree however that Nate Davis will become a monster in like 3 years in a simplified offense that plays to his strengths.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 10, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
franchise mode
In franchise mode if a player has a good year he can move up 10 overall. That is in one year. You could make any player into a star QB as long as they do good. That includes JTO
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 10, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all of them.
Some have a certain number they can’t exceed (the Potential stat)
But it would take forever to bring up a 32 awareness!
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 10, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW....
I think throughout the season these scores will have to go up. They have to when the Niners start winning games. I was most surprised that C. Rachel got an 80. I just think overall the Niners just havn’t been getting any love. Madden must be made on the East Coast considering only 1 West Team in top 5 and only 3 in top 10 and that’s if you count Dallas as West Coast.
by hudd07 on Jun 9, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The always go up during the season
The ratings at the start of the season are always different than what EA puts out at the end of the season.
There’s no East Coast bias here. EA is based out of Redwood City, CA. The lack of west coast teams in the top 10 has more to do with the NFC West and AFC West sucking as divisions than anything else.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 9, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really should read comments....
… before posting my own. I agree with your assertion the NFC and AFC West sucking have more to do with no elite teams from the West than some kind of bias.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm not mistaken...
… EA Sports’ studios is actually on the Penninsula.
by sfgfan on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason that there’s only 2 teams on the west coast in the top 10 is because there’s the niners, Rams, Seahawks, Raiders, Bronco’s, and chiefs that are in the lower third of the team rankings, which makes only 2 of the NFC/AFC west teams in the higher ranks, which makes sense if you look at their records last year
by ro128487 on Jun 9, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
EA just made the rankings to reflect rankings from last year. They aren’t predictions for the season or anything, just how the team stands before the season starts. Once we start proving what we can do, the ratings will go up.
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 9, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EA hq
Is in Redwood City. They don’t hate. They just reward the players/teams that did well last season.
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
70 overall until you pick up Spikes in FA at OLB the team jumps to 86
M. S. #50
by rlott#42 on Jun 9, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i think hes joking
no one player can improve a team that much
by june8thjrat on Jun 9, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spikes
Is there. I have no idea what rlott#42 is talking about.
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 9, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't even think rlott#42
has any idea what he is talking about
"I'll be honest with you, I love his music, I do, I'm a Michael Bolton fan. For my money, I don't know if it gets any better than when he sings "When a Man Loves a Woman"
by 49erLou on Jun 9, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand what rlottt#42 is saying
when you first get your copy of madden 09 spikes is on the free agent list. This is before you update your roster. The team is 72 at this point. with the addition of takeo spikes the team jumps up to 86 overall. when ea created the update the team dropped to an 70, and remains 70.
by RBoogy29 on Jun 9, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be cool
if it was at all true. cuz first off were talking madden 10 and second one player doesnt make a team jump 14 points
by june8thjrat on Jun 10, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've noticed...
that if you tweak any player at all on most teams that are subpar the team rating will jump as high as 89. Saw it happen when i adjusted rosters myself. After adjusting the Raiders, they went to an 87 and that was with only adjusting McFadden and Nandi. The overall team rating is misleading to me.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so now how does that make you feel?
to realize that the post prior to mine people were actually talking about madden 09 as far as how the roster ratings receive a significant boost after free agent signings? so it is true. Unfortunately one player do have that kind of effect.
by RBoogy29 on Jun 12, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It makes me ignore the overall team ratings
If adding 1 player has that effect or tweaking 1-2 players already on the team does the same thing then why even worry about overall team rating? It’s a joke.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 12, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atleast
the teams will have all of their players and the players ratings will be right.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 12, 2009 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea i agree eff the ratings
you have to ignore the overall ratings prior to this season. If you think about it though its a videogame, so it has to be some kinda system to make you want to play with your favorite teams. If your a lions fan, and just about every play book has the same plays, then you cant really out coach someone who plays wit the patriots. so for a videogame the overall ratings are overrated. right now the best team in the game is probably the raiders whos rating is 71. if the ratings were legit then who would want to play with the 49ers against your friend who plays with the cowboys? the game is bias in that right, and will easily make you put down the controller. Because even if you make the right reads the better team will always be in position. offensive line will fall apart, def line wont create pressure, dbs will drop passes from the top rated qbs. I think the game becomes a little more strategy based this season.
by RBoogy29 on Jun 12, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RE: right now the best team in the game is probably the raiders whos rating is 71.
Laugh-able…
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 15, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its true....
pick up the sticks…..patriots,dallas,steelers any team you like, I’ll prove it. at first it does seem laughable, but I too have become a believer lol
by RBoogy29 on Jun 15, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sticks?
Now you’re laugh-able.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just now?
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 16, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the use of “sticks” is a lame ass attempt at trying to make video games sound cooler. No matter how much you try to slang up the peripherals, a video game is a video game and just as nerdy as it was before.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 16, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
sticks,controller,remote controller, remote control, wii mote, joystick whatever psycho pick them up. the subject: raiders 71 overall best playable team pick them up.
by RBoogy29 on Jun 17, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok
I’m more or less busting your balls. I’ll willing to be educated and if you’re up for teaching me a lesson on xbox live let me know.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 17, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's either
method rampage or methodrampage (I forget if I’ve got a space between method and rampage or not).
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 18, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well i’m excited to play kids online while I start Nate Davis at Q, take the 15 yard dropback running around in circles, then finding VD for the 30 yard reception. Works every time, gotta love QB speed in Madden. It’s gonna be fun taking down losers playing as the Patriots, Steelers, etc.
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
CB blitz
Just blitz the cornerbacks. They are way faster than all the QBs.
Pizza is the best. Also, go 9ers!
by iaalexeeff on Jun 9, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I own CB blitzes
But that’s mostly because I rarely step out of the pocket.
When the defense runs a CB blitz I just chuck it to the WR the CB left and I get a first down.
As for people that do 99-step drops: They’re idiots, their accuracy goes way down while they’re on the run….They always throw interceptions.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 9, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the defense runs a CB blitz I just chuck it to the WR the CB left and I get a first down.
This doesn’t work all the time if the blitzing player has a 2-deep playcall.
their accuracy goes way down while they’re on the run….They always throw interceptions.
This. Zone defenses work really well against these circle the pocket QBs.
by sfgfan on Jun 10, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This doesn’t work all the time if the blitzing player has a 2-deep playcall.
Yeah but my WRs are "F"isical and can run over safeties.
lol
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 10, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i only do it to people who play as the patriots, so you probably would be safe. If i sense the corner blitz with i could audible to a draw, run up the middle, or a quick fade to vd
Keeping on SWOOPing in the free world! Also, by the reflexive property of the rubber/glue playground comeback, I enjoy wearing hats on my ass.
by SneakToBetterSeats on Jun 11, 2009 4:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be surprised...
… if Davis’ speed isn’t much greater than Smiths. I don’t recall him being known as a “fast” QB. He’s definitely above average, which Smith was considered to be before too. Smith’s speed was in the 70s before, if I’m not mistaken.
by sfgfan on Jun 10, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jed I know you play Madden!!!!
Mr. Jed York are you listening? You are young enough to be playing Madden and I bet the first thing you’ll do is get your franchise a QB. HINT HINT!!!!!
Looks I’m signing a Free Agent QB. I am not rolling with 60’s at the QB. DAMN!!! I take Vick or trade the skins for Brennan. Screw it I’ll Sign the Best Free Agent and then package him with others for Brady Quinn. Problemed solved.
by CHAWKZILLA on Jun 10, 2009 5:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rex Grossman
CHAWKZILLA’s starting QB for the 2009-2010 San Francisco 49ers.
Just trade for Thigpen (if you like mobility) or Derek Anderson (if you like statues with rocket arms).
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 10, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anderson
is my QB in franchise. Game is screwy, Cleveland lets him go for very little.
"If you move, I'll knock the hell out of you. I'm going to throw the ball as hard as I can, right at you. The only way you won't get hit is if you catch it. Understand?" my dad, teaching me to catch a baseball.
by Arkie49er on Jun 10, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jay Cutler is my back-up
crazy
by chikmagnet_565 on Jun 10, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or sign J.P. Losman, if you like both.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's funny
I guess nobody rolls with Alex Smith or Hill!
by CHAWKZILLA on Jun 11, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huard, might be above a 69.
Or maybe not, I don’t know him that well.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 12, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madden 09 vs 10
Hopefully with the new madden the fix all of the glitches, or at least the one where a player clearly catches a ball out of bounds and they call him in, you challenge it and see on the replay he was clearly out of bounds (sometimes both feet), and they don’t overturn it…that is sooo frustrating…I also feel the niners have been slighted a little bit, a 73 is a little harsh, there are some teams above them that they are better than or at least as good as..i.e. Tampa Bay, Houston, the Jets
by sanfranfanmdk on Jun 10, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
As was mentioned before, stats and ratings are largely based off of the previous season.
And last year, the Bucs, Texans and Jets were all better than our own 49ers.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 10, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
There’s very little justification that the 49ers are more talented than the Jets, Texans, or Bucs.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 14, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially the Texans.
I think they look like a pretty good young team.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 18, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Off on alot of these
Shaun hill should be at least a 79
dre bly should be at least and 83
lockdown #22 should be at least an 88
Justin smith should be at least an 87
by Italian King on Jun 11, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
In the old Madden System this would make sense.
However in Madden 10, they are making the difference between “Elite” and “Average” players much more profound.
Example:
75 is an average player in the NFL, (Parys Haralson, Moran Norris, David Bass).
90+ is an elite player in the NFL, (Frank Gore, Patrick Willis, Andy Lee).
Based on Performance, I would say that we have been rated pretty fairly. If they continue to improve, EA will adjust the ratings accordingly.
The one aspect that EA failed at with 09 was that they didn’t adjust the ratings accordingly when a team declined, such as the Dallas Cowboys.
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 11, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Hill a 79?
/eyeroll.
I understand being optimistic and liking your own players, but come on. In this system, a “league average starter” seems to be about a 73-74 rating. Giving Hill a 79 would assume that you’d choose him over about 3/5 of the starting QBs in the league.
Really? No.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 11, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My only real issue with the new ratings system is this:
It seems like this year, more than ever before, you will win with players. This means that the team you select will have more influence on the outcome of the game than it ever has. This would be great in an NBA or MLB game, where the leagues are largely dominated by a few upper-echelon teams…but in a league like the NFL that is so well known for its parity, I just don’t think that it makes much sense.
Even in a non-real-world setting, taking into account that it’s just a videogame, it still doesn’t seem to be a very reasonable change. One of the great things about Madden in the past has always been that a good player, employing solid strategy with smart play-calling could beat a weaker player with a far superior roster of players. I worry if this change to the ratings system might change this.
It was bad enough that 80% of the players online would go with either the Cowboys or Patriots before. This change to the ratings system might make that even worse. Even the most dedicated of fans won’t choose their favorite team if all of their starters are rated 30 points below the Colts or Steelers.
Call me crazy, but I don’t think that Madden games should be decided at the team select screen.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jun 11, 2009 4:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps...
… the rating system will hurt online play enough for them to change it back? In any case, it’ll be at least a year before we can decide how these new ratings hurt and whether or not EA is going to change them. I totally see what you’re saying, though.
by sfgfan on Jun 11, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rep my Squad!
I get smashed all the time as the Golden State Warriors in 2k9. Not so much anymore since they fixed Sjax’s jumper and made Randolph better. I will roll with hmmm, Damon Huard as my QB in Madden. If Smith and Hill are 60’s then Huard is in the 50’s.
by CHAWKZILLA on Jun 12, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get what you're saying but...
The change EA is making with Madden is a good one. I always play with a middle of the road team anyways (I liked the Texans last year) and just wait for another play to pick a reasonable match-up. I think the change will actually have the revers effect that you’re thinking. Less people will want to play against the Pats and Steelers so the people that constently select those teams will have a tougher time getting people to play them.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jun 12, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NFL has way less parity than the MLB
In the MLB you are a great team if you have a .600 winning percentage. In the NFL the best teams win 80-90% of their games, and when they play the lesser teams they almost always win.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 18, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madden ratings Suck ASS!!!
I update myself. Figured out a way to do fast and efficiently without waisting my time all the while making all of the teams how they should be.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 11, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How is this?
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jun 11, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roster update
Instead of going by team to do my updates I go by position. I do the top 32ish players in every position. That makes it so I can keep track of who is better than who. The stats I increase or decrease will depend on what position I’m working on. As for players in a backup role I will only increase his stats if he has played a significant role in the teams success for example Darren Sproles. I’ve been doing since Madden 02. It took a couple of years to get really fast at it but now it’s a breeze. Totally worth it for how much I hate the ratings and updates. The only thing I appreciate about the update is that players are all on the right teams. When it comes to that I treat it like the stats for backup players. If the free agent or traded player is pretty notable for ratings or has great stats then I will make the change. If he hasn’t added at all to the teams success or has a lame rating then it’s a waiste of time.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 12, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do the top 32ish players in every position.
Never thought to do that. Interesting approach. I may try that this year!
by sfgfan on Jun 12, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try it
It’s well worth getting into because once youre quick at it, it makes the game so much better.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 12, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Browns REALLY got ripped off with the rankings.
by BradyQuinnisBeast on Jun 18, 2009 5:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You don't think they're one of the worst teams in the league?
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 18, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have some good players...
but overall I’d say they are near the bottom.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 19, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I think their ranking is pretty fair.
by Brendan Scolari on Jun 19, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still feel cheated for thinking they would win the division last season after 2007 happened.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 19, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Many will feel cheated when the Cards don't win the division and go to the SB like last year.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 19, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry I couldn't resist throwing that in there lol
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jun 19, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Official Ratings
Sometime this week espn will show the 49ers player ratings. Today the Cardinals ratings. They look pretty solid, but I think we have them beat. I am curious to see the Rbs, Corners. Plus EA sports talks about potential factor. So if u have a guy and he has high potential he is most likely will become a 99.
Cream
by chriscream on Jun 22, 2009 7:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be making a front-page-post...
When the 49ers rankings are posted. Get excited.
Blind devotion.
by ProfessorBigelow on Jun 22, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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