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49ers All-Time Backup QB

In a result that should surprise nobody, Joe Montana ran away with the all-time starting quarterback position, carrying 77% of the vote.  What remains even more amazing to me is that Jeff Garcia pulled 20 votes, over double that of John Brodie and Y.A. Tittle.  I like Garcia, but really???

Today we move on to the backup quarterback.  He might not play in our all-time game (against who, I'm not sure), but if Montana's elbow were to act up, we'd want him around.  Also, to appease the older crowd, I've decided to include Frankie Albert on the list.  We'll see what kind of dent he makes in the voting.

Steve Young (1987-1999): As it was fitting for Montana and Young to duke it out for the starting position, it' would be even more fitting if Young ended up as Montana's backup.  Young finished his career with the greatest QB rating in NFL history.  While he may not have had the speed of a Vick, Steve Young was one of the truly great rushing quarterbacks in NFL history.  Combine that with uncanny accuracy and you're talking about an all-around threat rarely seen in NFL history.

John Brodie (1957-1973): Brodie finished his career third in the NFL in all-time passing yards and ranks as one of the greatest players NOT in the NFL Hall of Fame.  Brodie ranks second in 49ers history in passing yards and third in touchdowns, while playing for plenty less than stellar teams.  He won the AP MVP award in 1970 and was a two-time All Pro in a career that spanned a remarkable 17 seasons.

Y.A. Tittle (1951-1960): While Tittle spent plenty of time in Baltimore and New York, his formative years came with the 49ers as a 4-time Pro Bowler.  Considering the slowly developing passing game back in the day, 16,000+ yards in San Francisco is nothing to sneeze at.  To this day he’s remains fifth in team history in passing yards and TDs and his overall career yards and touchdowns are ahead of Young and Brodie.

Jeff Garcia (1999-2003): While we might all agree Jeff Garcia was not the greatest quarterback on straight numbers, he certainly ranks up there for what he did in spite of his shortcomings.  Garcia was rescued from the CFL by Bill Walsh in one of his best moves since trading for Steve Young.  Garcia was a 3-time pro Bowler in his five seasons and in spite of such a short tenure, he ranks 4th in franchise history for passing yards and fifth in passing touchdowns.  While he was certainly not a scrambler the caliber of Steve Young, he was quite fleet of foot, which helped for his lack of traditional passing tools.  And the fact that he had to put up with T.O. certainly counts for something.

Frankie Albert (1946-1952): In an age when the passing game had not reached anything near the likes of what we see today, Frankie Albert was one of the best quarterbacks of his time.  Albert was the first great quarterback in franchise history and started the tradition that has been carried on by the likes of Tittle, Brodie, Montana and Young.  He was a 4-time All Pro from 1946 to 1949 and twice led the AAFC in touchdowns.  As kezarvet pointed out in the QB #1 discussion, his finest season came in 1948 when he led the league in completion percentage, touchdowns and QB rating.  To show the difference in the passing game from then to now, Albert's league leading completion percentage was 58.3%.  He also managed to rush for 349 yards and 8 touchdowns, while also moonlighting as the team's punter.  Albert became head coach of the team after he retired and passed away in 2002 from Alzheimer's Disease.

Poll
Who should be our all-time backup QB?
Steve Young
689 votes
Y.A. Tittle
13 votes
John Brodie
12 votes
Jeff Garcia
33 votes
Frankie Albert
6 votes

753 votes | Poll has closed

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Show me the person who votes for Jeff Garcia over Steve Young and I’ll show you a jerk.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

So far I see 6 jerks voted for him

by aBulldog on Jul 23, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

make that 9

And I’d prefer to call them stupidheads.

by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why someone would vote for happy feet over Young is just pure insanity

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 23, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was an easy question, steve young backed up the greatest qb of all time, untill it was his turn to run the show. garcia can be mentioned in the same breath as steve young or montana because montana and young won rings garcia didn’t. i jus wish they wouldn’t have gave up on garcia so soon.

by shoulderlean on Jul 24, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't be mentioned you mean right?

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 24, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Garcia

I voted for Young, but I think Garcia got the shaft from the organization, and I also think he’s deserved better from the league. He’s one of those players that gets picked up by a team, plays very well for them, and then gets dumped, only to move on to another team.

I look forward to seeing what he does with the Raiders this year.

by smileyman on Jul 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am of the personal opinion...

…that Steve Young was even better than Joe Montana. Statistically there is absolutely no question in my mind. Young set far more records than Montana did.

The question is one of Super Bowls. Montana won 4, Young won 1.

But what kind of teams stood in the way of Montana’s 49ers compared to Young’s? I believe that if it weren’t for the Cowboys and Packers we would have seen Young win a few more. I know Montana holds a place in our hearts as the best, and you cannot call into question his heart, his leadership, and his uncanny knack for finding a way to win games. But he benefited greatly from Walsh’s system and playcalling abilities. No question Young did as well, but I think Steve was a better overall player.

by Indiana Jim on Jul 23, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you!!

Steve Young rules

by ninerdf on Jul 23, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no doubt Young had better numbers in the regular season… but who has better post season numbers than Montana? That’s when the wins start counting for a QB. That’s when the stats matter.

More than stats, it was Montana’s demeanor… the intangible things that he did to make not only himself look good, but the players around him too. He raised everyone’s level on the field. And when you start talking about those 4th quarter comebacks… forget about it man.

I can’t say that Young was better than Montana, cuz I feel Joe was the best to every play the QB position, but I think Young is very underrated still. I definitely have him in my top 10 QB’s of all time, ahead of guys like Brett Favre for sure.

by aBulldog on Jul 23, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

Not this again…..

by chikmagnet_565 on Jul 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young!

Love Montana but he was a mythical super hero to me. Young was my guy growing up and also made the best pass I have ever seen when he chucked it to Owens to beat Green Bay.

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 23, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d rate Montana slightly ahead of Young with regard to his decision-making and accuracy. Young’s speed was also closer to Vick’s than Fooch seems to think. When he first came to the 49ers, he may have been the fastest guy on the team. There was some thought of moving him to receiver when he couldn’t get off the bench because of Montana’s undeniable greatness. Young began his career with a bad habit similar to Vick’s of thinking run first. Unlike Vick, Young got better at being a pro QB over time, and began to throw more, and end runs by sliding into the turf instead of trying to run through defenders.

by asleepinSF on Jul 23, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree as well

Had Young’s career lasted a little longer maybe the Super Bowl question would favor Montana less.

Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.

by methodrampage on Jul 23, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree too

I started watching the Niners with Joe, but that was at the tail end of his career. Steve was my man growing up, and I never saw a prettier passer, I always admired his toughness, even though that drives coaches mad when QBs don’t slide at the end of their runs.

Steve couldn’t stand Joe and vice versa though.

by smileyman on Jul 24, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Off topic, but...

Does Jeff Garcia look like Boggs from The Shawkshank Redemption to anyone else?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone who voted Jeff Garcia should just give up on life. You have no place on this earth as a football fan, much less a 49ers fan. You know absolutely nothing about anything. Go away.

STEVE HOLM! refuses to be the odd man out.

by UnleashTheGore on Jul 23, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Other people besides 49ers fans roam this blog.

Also, if Shaun Hill was on the poll I’m sure he would have a sizable portion of the vote, if not winning.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

I can guarantee he would not. Seeing as it’s mostly 49ers fans voting for this, they recognize that Shaun Hill is not better than Steve Young. And one would think non-49ers fans would recognize that Steve Young is an all-time great in this league. Garcia is definitely no slouch, but I just don’t see how he reaches Steve Young’s stature in the league.

I still would like to hear legit reasons why Jeff Garcia is better all-time than Steve Young (whether it be you or anybody that voted for Garcia). I’m not asking for why Jeff Garcia was a great QB for the 49ers. That is not the point of this post. Why would someone consider him better than Steve Young (or any of the other guys on the poll)?

by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Non 49er fans would still be on crack if they voted Garcia over Young

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 23, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, I don't actually think Garcia is/was better than Young.

But really, the outcome of a poll like this is decided before you even publish it, and I’m sure you know that, so I was just going against the grain.

“Seeing as it’s mostly 49ers fans voting for this, they recognize that Shaun Hill is not better than Steve Young.”

Sure, but for some reason they’d be compelled to vote for Hill anyway. I mean, look at that fanpost about Singletary, last time I checked, the option about Singletary becoming the best 49ers HC of all time is leading.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

correction

The poll is: Will Mike Singletary become one of the better coaches in 49ers Franchise history?

Not the best phrasing, but drastically different from best in terms of your point.

But I agree we’d get some clowns voting for Shaun Hill in such a poll.

by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steve Young hands down.

by shark94112 on Jul 24, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

haha we shoulda just skipped straight to the 3rd stringer

I think jeff Garcia gets 3rd becuz nobody knows who those other guys are, meaning nobody has ever seen them play, only read about them

If I gotta play, I'm gonna play 'till I win,
Since I gotta be here, I can´t wait to begin

by albertoleecho on Jul 24, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Which is a damn shame, because – speaking relatively, to protect against era-mashing – Y.A. Tittle in his prime would have wiped the floor with Garcia at his best.

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 25, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I voted tittle

nothing against Steve Young (he’ll win), but I wanted to throw my vote to Y.A. Tittle or John Brodie because of historic value. In the end I went with Y.A.

by Andrew Davidson on Jul 24, 2009 10:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rick Mirer

He was awesome in NFL Blitz

If I gotta play, I'm gonna play 'till I win,
Since I gotta be here, I can´t wait to begin

by albertoleecho on Jul 24, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jim Drunkenidiot

Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.

by maveric_87 on Jul 24, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Drunkenmillerlite?

My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.

by howtheyscored on Jul 25, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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