Mike Singletary Is the Best Coach the 49ers have had in a While
Even after less than one full season, I can honestly say that Mike Singletary is the best coach the 49ers have had since Bill Walsh. Yes, even better than George Seifert who won two Super Bowls and won 76.6 percent of the games the 49ers played.
Singletary really impressed me on how he handled the team. What he wants is completely different than what previous coach Mike Nolan wanted from the team, and it showed with the inspired play of the team since he took over during week eight of the season.
Yes, the 49ers did get manhandled in his first game as coach, but after the bye week the team really played well. Their defense finally showed up and offensively Shaun Hill showed poise at the quarterback position not seen since Jeff Garcia ran the 49ers.
Furthermore you could make the argument that out of all the professional sports in the Bay Area, Singletary would rank as the best coach.
The main thing that separates Singletary from other coaches is his coaching style. Singletary demands maximum effort as well as discipline, but most of all he's passionate about what he does. No other manager in the Bay Area is as demanding as Singletary and shows as much passion.
There was a report from the 49ers locker room in regards to Singletary dropping his pants at halftime trying to make a point about how embarrassing the 49ers were playing.
This was just his first game as coach for the 49ers.
Somehow you knew that the 49ers would respond and they did. After the bye week, the 49ers went 5-3 under Singletary. Including Hill showing his ability to complete 49ers comebacks.
Still, maybe the best example of Singletary style is what happened with Vernon Davis. Davis, took a stupid penalty after a play was over so he was sent to the bench, but had a sulky attitude so Singletary told him to shower and get dressed.
Even after the game you could see how frustrated Singletary was with Davis. Here's the clip
of Singletary responding to a question about Davis.
With that clip you can see how passionate Singletary is about football. He wants his players to play smart and not take stupid selfish penalties. That's basically what he stated in response to Davis's penalty.
After the season ended, offensive coordinator Mike Martz was let go. Jimmy Raye was hired to take over as offensive coordinator.
Matthew Barrows wrote an article on the Sacramento Bee website entitled "49ers Allowed to take Chances Under New Regime." What I got from this is that Nolan did not allow the 49ers to take chances.
Mike Martz didn't have any audibles, but Raye's new system allows the 49ers to be more aggressive. They've made some changes specifically naming 24 year old Dashon Goldson starting free safety. Goldson has shown an eye for the ball, has good instincts, and in recent practices has been an interception machine.
Meanwhile the man he replaced, Mark Roman, hasn't had an interception in three seasons since being named starting free safety. Nolan preached being in position and not gambling, whereas Singletary requires discipline, but will allow a player to take risks to make a big play.
On the offensive side, Shaun Hill and Alex Smith have been encouraged to audible, something that didn't exist last year under Martz.
The new found aggression on both sides of the ball leads me to believe that the 49ers have a definite shot at winning the NFC West. It is also known that Singletary wants more of a smash mouth style offense, which means seeing a lot more of Frank Gore and that is definitely a good thing.
Maybe I'm exaggerating a little bit by claiming that Singletary is the best coach the 49ers have had since Walsh. I honestly believe in next few years under the leadership of Singletary, the 49ers are going to get back to their winning ways and this includes back to the Super Bowl!
Just to refresh your collective memories here's the list of coaches the 49ers have had since Walsh:
George Seifert: As I mentioned before, he had a great winning percentage and won two Super Bowls as 49ers coach. Yet, Seifert took over a team that had already been together and had won three Superbowls including one the year before Seifert took over.
Steve Mariucci: After George Seifert left, Mariucci took over. He did get the 49ers into the playoffs, but his problem was that the team was not disciplined. He was constantly called out by players for going too easy on opponents and also for the 49ers not being able to advance further into the playoffs. Under the direction of Mariucci, there were no Super Bowl appearances.
Dennis Erickson: After Mariucci was fired, the 49ers hired Dennis Erickson, who has always been successful as a college coach but never at the NFL level. The 49ers did not have a winning season in the two years that Erickson was coach.
Mike Nolan: Nolan had plenty of problems while running the 49ers. For example as I stated, Nolan's defenses were hardly ever aggressive. They rarely blitzed and that caused problems because the 49ers did not possess a good pass rush and the defense was constantly picked apart.
Also, the 49ers didn't have a steady offensive coordinator in his time as coach. There was hope after a 7-9 season, but the 49ers quickly faltered once Norv Turner left. He was finally fired in the 2008 season after going 2-5 and the team not showing much progress.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Coaches in the bay area
Given how things have gone, calling Singletary the best coach in the Bay Area is not all that hard to do at this point. Arguments for others, but it’s not the greatest collection. I do like Bochy, but he’s never wowed me. Bob Geren? I’d prefer not to discuss so much. Don Nelson? Going a little nutty I’m thinking. Don’t know enough about what’s going on with the Sharks.
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dennis Green!
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about Green
Singletary has some competition!
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
good post otherwise
Whether folks agree with it or not, great effort on the FanPost.
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you guys all held Nasty Norv Turner in high esteem.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless of course, 'Bay Area' only consists of Oakland and SF, in which case Turner doesn't count.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bay Area
Did you think I meant best coaches in California as a whole? Or did you think San Diego is counted in the Bay Area? Please clarify as I’m a little confused by your comment.
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought San Diego is counted in the Bay Area.
I don’t much about the geography of Cali, to me it’s a very large state with spectacular weather, hot women, and Compton.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fraid not
Not even remotely. Bay Area is San Francisco, Oakland, San Jose. Lot of smaller parts to it, but those are the big 3.
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, San Diego is like a 7 hour drive from the Bay Area.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most natives practically consider NorCal and SoCal different states.
SF, Oakland, San Jose, and Sacramento are pretty distant – both geographically and culturally – from LA and San Diego.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 23, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upon reviewing a map, I can see that.
I feel silly now, meh.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Are you an international Seahawks fan or something?
Not that it matters, just wonderiing…
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 24, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course not.
Just a stupid one.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 24, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Norv is not the guy for SD, he's an ofensive coordinator at best
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by rlott#42 on Jul 25, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure,
but you can’t deny San Diego’s been at their best with him.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schottenheimer?
They were pretty impressive under Schottenheimer. Helped that they had LDT in his prime.
by Fooch on Jul 25, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just means...
… he needs a really good defensive coordinator. He got royally screwed when Wade Phillips left for Dallas and his heir apparent was heading to SF (at least I seem to remember somewhere mentioning that Manusky was SD’s choice to replace Phillips had he not left).
by sfgfan on Jul 27, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to make a comment about the deification of Mike Singletary, but I think you’re clear about the fact that you’re exaggerating and sometimes drifting into hyperbole. I can’t blame you for optimism and I’m glad you know that some of the things you said were way too strong. I can say that I’m waiting for results before I begin to approach Singletary with anything more than a little optimistic skepticism.
Also, I can’t sit back on this short bit:
Still, maybe the best example of Singletary style is what happened with Vernon Davis. Davis, took a stupid penalty after a play was over so he was sent to the bench, but had a sulky attitude so Singletary told him to shower and get dressed.
This didn’t fix Davis’ problems. He continued to make stupid penalties, and was penalized, I believe, two more times that season after the whistle. The only difference it made was that Davis stopped being vocal. He kept celebrating after minor plays and doing the same stupid on-field stuff. But he acted more grown up to the media and stopped complaining about his offensive role. Which is good, but still, not the sea change some make it out to be.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How about getting to the playoffs
Then we can talk.
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.
by BrianBokake on Jul 23, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
"Yes, even better than George Seifert"
…
What is it about Singletary that inspires so much extreme hyperbole? Seifert was a defensive mastermind and arguably one of the greatest coaches of all time. Singletary drops his pants when angered and there isn’t any indication he’s very good as football strategy at all.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
drops his pants
He dropped his pants once. I can see this is going to last a long time for non-49ers fans.
by Fooch on Jul 23, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if one ignores that...
How did we go from a reasonable statement like "Mike Singletary Is the Best Coach the 49ers have had in a While " to “Yes, even better than George Seifert”?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 23, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea
And completely agreed. Being a great football player doesn’t make you a great coach. Not that he can’t be a great coach, but I don’t see any proof that he is yet.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 24, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to call it the Deification of Mike Singletary. We actually have a satirical graphic about it.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here it is.
Click here because for some reason the image isn’t embedding for me. It seems to link up just fine though.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or... not....
Now it disappeared completely!
I don’t know where that image went.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if a comment is made in the forest
and no one is around to see it, do you still talk to yourself?
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 23, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did somebody hear something?
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 23, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
as much as I hate to admit it =1
He needs some playoff wins under his belt to be mentioned there. Anyone can see that he and Seifert were not in the same situation when they toolk over the reigns. The pants dropping incident has nothing to say about what was accomplished in the season. Please enough of it already, he’s still a better coach than Erickson!!
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by rlott#42 on Jul 25, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to make it to the playoffs before collecting playoff wins.
I would consider that a huge accomplishment and monumental step in the right direction if he did that by the end of next season, considering the sorry state of the team in recent seasons.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 25, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s still a better coach than Erickson!!
Leave the swearing for the gamethreads please.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's been the head coach for a whole half a season.
He hasn’t even gone through his first training camp as a head coach, and people are already placing him on the level of Bill Walsh?
Disgusting.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 23, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Have to strongly disagree
SIngletary hasn’t proven anything as a coach yet. I don’t see what evidence makes you sure he is even a good coach so far, let alone a great one.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 24, 2009 1:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll call you Mr. Redundant
He proved a lot last year. He took a team that played like garbage after going 2-6, and turned them around to a 7-9 team. Sure it still is under .500, but did you not notice that every aspect of the 49ers since Singletary took over for Nolan played extremely well? Or in your mind does that not count?
by Rocky632 on Jul 25, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you not notice that the opponents Singletary's 49ers faced combined for the lowest winning percentage in the league?
And not a single win in that span was against a team with a winning record (aside from the Jets, who were one of the league’s worst teams after Week 10 or so)? And they barely edged out truly terrible teams like the Rams and Bills?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 25, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again with this crap
I hope you didn’t pick your seahawks to win the NFC West especially after bolstering a pitiful record in the weakest part of their schedule. You pick the games yourself, I know you didn’t play 12 powerhouses adn thats how you got your 4-12 record.
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by rlott#42 on Jul 25, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
'Crap'?
I’m sorry, but that likely is the only reason the 49ers fared better in their second half schedule was any better than their first (2 wins in 8 games, 1 against the 0-16 Lions and one against a ravaged Seahawks team).
“I know you didn’t play 12 powerhouses adn thats how you got your 4-12 record”
It’s easy to gloat with your oh so impressive 7-9 with just about every important starter healthy. Now imagine how the 49ers would perform without the entire starting offense line, receiving corps, and QB. Although, I’m not too sure losing the latter would be such a big deal, considering that Seneca Wallace would probably be starting in San Francisco.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 25, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but did you not notice that every aspect of the 49ers since Singletary took over for Nolan played extremely well?
Actually, the team’s performance (statistically speaking) was very nearly the exact same. We played weaker teams and eeked out some lucky wins, but DVOA on either side of the ball changed very little – iirc, the only two games that we played over the league average were at home against Detroit and Washington. It’s actually pretty hard to find one area (outside of interceptions thrown) where we did any better at all.
In all Likelihood, Nolan’s 49ers would have had the same record against the teams that we played in the second half of 2008.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 25, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Florida Danny wrote a few pieces on this. It boiled down to that under Singletary (or, with Hill starting) our statistical performance was far more consistent, though we had neither the highs nor the lows that we experienced before he (or Hill) took the job.
The average was pretty much right on target though.
If you search through Danny’s posts, it should be pretty easy to find.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 25, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in other words....
JT freaking O’Sullivan needs to die
by Joshpreet on Jul 25, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing in response to this
I noticed one major difference when Singletary took over, and I believe specifically it was the Jets game. The Niners were in a close game, and Shaun Hill threw an interception. Singletary huddled around the offense on the sidelines to rally his troops after the INT. I don’t remember ever seeing Nolan pull the entire offense aside and chat them up after an INT.
Again, nothing huge, but something I notice from Sing in those finally weeks of the season that perhaps set a different tone than what Nolan could do.
I’m not debating Nolan’s Niners would have finished close to the same record, just noting that Singletary did things a bit differently, and that can be attributed (even if its just a tiny amount) to how the team responded.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 26, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t remember ever seeing Nolan pull the entire offense aside and chat them up after an INT.
That’s kind of the job of the offensive coordinator, no? The one thing I give credit to Nolan for in his final “season” is that he finally learned how to be hands off with the offense (or so it seems).
by sfgfan on Jul 27, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what the fans and the media had been yelling at him to do for years...
and yeah, 2008 was the season that he finally put it into practice.
To hear some of those same fans criticize him for it and single it out as a reason that he was the wrong guy for the job is just kind of sad.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you aren't implying that's what I'm saying
All I’m saying is that Singletary rallied his troops after an INT in the Jets game. I’ve never seen Nolan do that. I’m not talking about Singletary scheming offensively, or that Nolan didn’t keep his hand out of the cookie jar prior to 2008.
It’s not necessarily the offensive co-ordinators job to boost the offense’s confidence by rallying them after a costly INT. The OC needs to tell that QB, “hey, here’s where you should’ve thrown the ball instead.” Sing (in that Jets game) went over to Hill, and simply rallied the troops. I’m not sure what he said, but I’m sure it wasn’t something about Xs and Os.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 27, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motivation.
A head coach’s job isn’t necessarily a motivator if that isn’t what he is. It’s the same idea with Nolan dabbling in aspects of the game he does not understand. Motivation should come from the player and to expect a head coach to do it and say that failing to do so is what made him fail is ridiculous. A coach is there to manage the team. Anything else above that is the coach’s call and should be made based on his understanding of said task.
by sfgfan on Jul 28, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh......
i love sing n all, but um, better than seifert? how bout we wait for him to win a superbowl first. shoot, how about we wait for him to get a full season under his belt. i understand everyone’s excite, but don’t be delusional, geez
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 25, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
zOMG!!!....
Sincerely,
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 25, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
bleacher report
Yea I noticed that before but didn’t bring it up. This is the second FanPost by a Bleacher Report person. Although, the highlight of that Bleacher Report post is the misspelling of Will in the poll (it says “Sill”).
by Fooch on Jul 25, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I find it kinda cool..
That fans have an outlet to write about what they enjoy, no matter how crazy it is. Bleacher Report reminds me of these people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ekugPKqFw
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 25, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hm...
now that i’ve reread the article, it seems even more stupid and simplistic than when i read it the first time. fooch can you ban rocky632 for being a spammer and being gay?
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For being gay?
Come on, not cool.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 25, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a lot of things, even. Smart. Funny. Witty. Worthwhile. And so on.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 25, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s a Dodger fan
Rafael Rodriguez: #8 on our list and batting .326 in Scottsdale...which I believe has be renamed Rafaelsdale.
by BrianBokake on Jul 26, 2009 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh sorry
i keep forgetting the 9ers are located in a city that is known as the gay capital, sorry.
my bad. don’t crucify me. i haven’t electrocuted any dogs, though
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 26, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what you’re saying here is that you just don’t really get the point.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
being gay?
While I don’t want flame wars happening, couldn’t you do better than “being gay?”
And I actually don’t view it as spam. Spam would have been posting a FanPost with a link to his article and maybe a sentence or two. In this case, if I hadn’t been searching for something else, I never would have know this was a Bleacher Report article (as far as links to it). If a person wants to copy over what they write on Bleacher Report to a FanPost I’m fine with that. As long as they don’t post 3 or 4 articles in a row in the space of a few minutes, 49ers content is always welcome.
by Fooch on Jul 25, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on though.
you don’t ever get the vibe that san francisco doesn’t appreciate being lucky enough to have such a great franchise? sf isnt a football town. sometimes i wish frisco had that gung ho crazy fan environment that cities like dallas, chicago, pittsburgh have. watching that nfl.com special on cities with the best fans made me feel that even more.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 26, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SF isn't a football town?...
I’ve been to those cities that you’ve mentioned, and SF is right there with them.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 26, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
deion would disagree
the man played for sf and dallas. on nfl network he said playing in sf is nothing like playing in dallas because of how intense, numerous, and devoted the dallas fans are to the team and its players.
you believe this exists in frisco as well? i think if frisco had this type of intense fan base maybe those pathetic yorks wouldn’t have run the franchise into the ground. fans in dallas put pressure on the org to win. fans in frisco just roll with the punches.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 26, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think if frisco had this type of intense fan base maybe those pathetic yorks wouldn’t have run the franchise into the ground.
What does the competence level of the ownership have to do with the dedication of the fan base? If anything, I think the fact that Candlestick hasn’t failed to sell out a game in decades despite some pretty miserable years speaks volumes for 49er fans.
That said, however, I do have to agree that San Francisco really doesn’t come close to the level of eat-sleep-breathe football fandom found in cities like Green Bay, Pittsburgh and Dallas. That may not be a bad thing, though.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 26, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because Steeler fans are already punished enough
by living in Pennsylvania.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 26, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well...
They haven’t been as rabid as they have been in the past, but that might have to do with a combo of an influx of people who have moved to the City (the dot.com boom/bust had a major effect on housing) and the fact that the 49ers haven’t won for a long time. I lived in SF for years, and there was a genuine buzz throughout the whole city, complete with a big image of Steve Young over Union Square. It’s a football town. I could go to a lot of bars and talk to old timers who watched games during the Kezar days, which is now known as Bob St. Clair Field.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 27, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to relate the issue to population change...
I’d actually connect it to the people who have left the bay area, rather than the ones who have moved here. The price of living in the SF bay area, and the city in particular, has gotten so high that all but the wealthiest (or the longest tenured, as the case may be for people like myself) are left. I’m sure there are a great deal of die-hard 49er fans who have had to leave California, or at least the bay, just for financial reasons.
The funny part is that a lot of them have likely fled to the south bay – San Jose and Santa Clara – and this is why I don’t buy into the 49ers potential move to that area as a complete “loss of the team’s identity.” The city seems to have left the 49ers long before the 49ers ever talked about leaving the city.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Jul 27, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I know somebody else would do it....
Frisco is a town in Texas.
by Fooch on Jul 26, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which makes the whole thing even more baffling because people in Frisco would therefore be Cowboys fans! so hels saying that Cowboys fans aren’t as good as Cowboys fans!
Seriously though, redrum, just stop. Between calling SF gay and calling 49er fans unappreciative, bad fans, you’re really screwing the pooch here. Which, ahem, isn’t quite as bad as electrocuting one, but still.
My Dave Righetti is better than your Dave Righetti.
by howtheyscored on Jul 27, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These guys forget...
The 49ers were one of the first professional sport teams ever on the West Coast. Pretty sure SF is a football town.
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Aug 1, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To echo Fearless Frog...
I disagree with the premise of the post (though not with Rocky632’s right to post it) in that I think it is supremely premature. I am as optimistic as anybody about Singletary, even moreso than many, but to call him “the best coach since Walsh” at this point borders on drinkin’ the kool-aid craziness. Hell, I don’t think he’s even earned an “average” rating yet. And you know what? I bet Singletary doesn’t think he’s earned any accolades either.
But my real issue is the comparison with George Siefert. Its hard to even think of how to counter the argument given the complete lack of support. Singletary had a decent record over the second half of a season. Siefert is an NFL legend. Rocky632 points out that Siefert won a super bowl with Walsh’s team, and he isn’t the only person to make that argument. But even if you think that somehow diminishes the 1989 super bowl (which is silly), there was ample turn-over in players all over the league between Siefert’s first and second super bowl. Honestly, I find it hard to believe that I am even arguing this point. Comparing Singletary to Siefert is a joke. Singletary hasn’t even achieved the stature of the Mooch, let alone Siefert.
Let’s get real.
Pro-dog. Anti-Vick. In every way.
by Call It The Throw on Jul 25, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
true.
i forgot about mooch. i agree. sing isn’t anywhere near being as good a coach as mooch………not yet, at least. people need to calm down.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
by redrum21225 on Jul 26, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I don’t understand the yes votes on this poll. At this stage it’s either too soon to tell or he doesn’t have the stuff, yet. I saw some game and clock management issues last year that have me thinking he doesn’t have the stuff to coach during the game so I voted no, mainly because I don’t think he’s ready yet. I think he should have spents several more years as a dc under another head coach. I like Mike, but I’m going to predict his stint as head coach for SF will not have a happy ending.
by Drullin'OverDaCards on Jul 27, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rocky needs to fix a couple of things here...
“Mike Singletary Is da Bestest Coach da 49ers have had in a While”
Now we know what we are reading.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 27, 2009 2:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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