NFC West Position-by-Position: Offense
Apologies for the lack of activity over the weekend. I hope everybody had a great holiday weekend. We're fully into July now, meaning we're mere weeks away from training camp. After going through the various offensive positions in our blogger roundtable discussions, it seemed fitting to now discuss the offense as a whole. Certain positions could end up with high grades while an offense as a whole is graded a little less generously. Up to this point we've discussed quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, tight ends, centers, offensive tackles and guards. Today we combine all the positions together to provide an overview of the offense. I remain convinced that the 49ers do not need an overpowering offense to be successful in 2009. A middle of the road offense would be sufficient.
1. Arizona Cardinals
2. Seattle Seahawks
3. San Francisco 49ers
4. St. Louis Rams
Arizona Cardinals
Blogger: cgolden
The Arizona Cardinals offense could simply be described as night and day. In the dark is the league's worst rushing attack from one year ago but standing right next to the 'ugly sister' is the second best passing attack. The two units combine to form an offense that ranked fourth in yards per game and third in points per game. The Cardinals also have the advantage of nine returning starters on the offensive side of the ball, with the only exceptions coming at running back and fullback, and the average age of starters is under 28 years old.
Running Game: When you look at the group as a whole, the only significant change is a running back where they basically traded a highly accomplished running on the downside of his career (if not completely washed up) for a highly unproven back with loads of potential. Whether or not that ends up being an upgrade is almost irrelevant in my mind because the league's worst rushing attack can't get worse, at least by definition. There is a glimmer of hope that the running game will improve based on the fact that the same offensive line is returning with another year of experience. With slightly better blocking from the line, a bigger potential to break off longer runs and play calling that leans closer to 'balanced' there's a greater than zero chance that the running game could crawl out of the cellar and approach respectability, but make no mistake about the fact that the offense will go through the right arm of Kurt Warner as long as he's under center.
Passing Game: Ah the bread of butter of the Redbirds offense. If the Cardinals are successful in 2009, it'll be because Kurt Warner and his host of standout receivers had another great year. Warner's age and complete lack of mobility will always be a concern but when he's able to stand upright in a well formed pocket and sling it down the field, there are few better. The talent at receiver (Larry Fitzgerald, Anquan Boldin, Steve Breaston, Jerheme Urban and Early Doucet) is the best in the NFL and the group can excel in every aspect of the passing game. They've got the guys who can move the chains (Boldin), stretch the field (Breaston) and guys who are capable of both (Fitzgerald). If the Cardinals can get any production out of the tight end position, there's no reason to think this passing game couldn't be top five, if not much better, again this season.
Play Calling: I include this aspect of the offense because many Cardinals fans will point to the play calling as a big reason why the running game was so ineffective last season. The Cardinals too often ran in predictable situations and formations that were tailored to the passing game instead of success on the ground. By season's end most of us were completely fed up with draw plays out of the shotgun formation, but it's a fine line between what's good for the ground game versus what's good for the passing game. One thing that we'll all have to accept is that any offense led by Kurt Warner will be pass first pass second, regardless of how often head coach Ken Whisenhunt talks about a balance offense, but there are some ways that the play calling can help put the running game in better situations.
Overall I think this offense will do more than it's fair share to put the Arizona Cardinals in a position to win most of the games that they play. Regardless of whatever balance they end up with at season's end, this group is going to put up it's fair share of points and the short passing game does a decent job of bleeding the clock most of the time. In an ideal situation, I'd like to think that the running game could creap up to around 20th in the league (an increase of about 34 yards per game) and the passing game would still stay in the top five. The net effect would be an offense that is downright deadly, but only time will tell. As for a grade, I'd like to think that a unit that is top five in yards per game and points per game would be considered an A, but the league's worst rushing attack has to be factored in so I'll stick with a B.
Blogger: John Morgan
Mike Holmgren is one of the great all-time evaluators of offensive talent. Nevertheless, many believe his departure will be good for Seattle’s offense. As general manager Tim Ruskell began to remake the Seahawks roster in his image, the discord between Ruskell’s talent and Holmgren’s scheme became increasingly pronounced. Last season, Holmgren’s team was losing with Ruskell’s roster. Ruskell signed Greg Knapp and for the first time in his administration, there is harmony between the offensive coaching staff and the front office. That works if anyone knows what they’re doing.
Running Game: Seattle is installing a zone blocking system. Players have gushed over how it fits their skills and will take them to the next level, and maybe it does. I don’t expect a professional athlete to say otherwise. The key to any system working is fit and talent. A zone blocking system can take many shapes, and until we see how Seattle executes it, much less who executes it, it’s hard to say how well it will fit the team’s personnel. If Seattle sticks with Mike Wahle at left guard and Chris Spencer at center, it has a core of athletic blockers that are good in space. If Unger wins out at left all the better, especially for the pass offense.
I thought Julius Jones was a better fit for Holmgren’s man-blocking, cutback heavy style. Both systems emphasize vision. Jones should do well finding holes and picking his way to positive yards in a zone blocking scheme, but I do not expect a breakout or mid-career renaissance. T.J. Duckett has good vision for a power back, almost looking picky at times, and should more than adjust in Knapp’s system. He should flourish.
Passing Game: It all comes down to Matt Hasselbeck, doesn’t it? Passing offense correlates better with wins than any other single component of football. Seneca Wallace, a Charlie Frye sighting and a broken Hasselbeck doomed Seattle to its worst season since 1992. If Hasselbeck is healthy, stays healthy, and hasn’t grown old overnight, Seattle has a worthy shot of fielding a top ten passing offense. It did as recently as 2007. This season, its skill position players are much improved. In fact, every position except fullback has a better receiving option than Seattle had in 2007.
Play Calling: Play calling is pretty hard to qualify with any confidence. There was a sense that in some way the NFL had passed Holmgren by, but it’s possible he just couldn’t work with the players he was given. It’s possible the players he was given just sucked.
The Seahawks are lousy with accomplished players, and should it collapse it will be because accomplishment requires age and Seattle's offense is old. But it takes some kind of pessimist to ignore the great potential. Hasselbeck can still be a very good quarterback. T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Deion Branch form a very good starting wide receiver duo. There’s talent at slot. John Carlson is one of the best young tight ends in football. Jones and Duckett are both young and healthy. The risk is enough to force me to call Seattle only an average offense, but the potential is enough to make this "C" look very foolish come January.
San Francisco 49ers
Blogger: Fooch
The San Francisco 49ers offense is viewed by most as anemic at best. They're on their seventh offensive coordinator in an as many seasons and still trying to figure out which quarterback is the answer. Or at least which is the answer for 2009. The lone bright spot on this offense has been Frank Gore, who has seen his rushing totals decrease the last two seasons after setting the franchise record in 2006. Shaun Hill and Alex Smith continue to leave fans either frustrated or defensive about the QB situation, and the offensive line went from stellar in 2006, to sort of blah more recently.
Running Game: The rushing game has been the highlight for the 49ers since drafting Frank Gore. This will play an even bigger role in the offense of new offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye. Coach Singletary has stated that he wants a bruising running game, as opposed to a light 'em up passing attack. Most fans are hoping the offensive line has been solidified with recent additions because Frank the tank most definitely cannot make it happen all by himself. One quiet offseason move that has made Gore quite happy is the return of fullback Moran Norris. Norris was exiled with the entrance of Mike Martz, but a return to a strong rushing attack requires the fullback skills Norris brings to the table. Aside from the offensive line, the big question is whether Glen Coffee will provide a sufficient alternative to keep Gore fresh and keep defenses off balance. Nobody can say for sure so we'll just have to wait for the season to get going.
Passing Game: I really don't think I need to say much about the 49ers QBs. Non-49ers fans (and even a group of 49ers fans) think the Hill/Smith combo is a joke. However, again, if the offensive line can keep up its end of the bargain, the passing attack only needs to complement the rushing attack. The 49ers do not need to have Shaun Hill throw for 4,000+ yards to make the playoffs. As long as Hill can avoid stupid the mind-numbing mistakes of J.T. O'Mulligan, this offense should be in "good enough" shape. The receiving corps is extremely young, aside from Isaac Bruce, but improvement will be seen. I realize I'm basing this more on potential than production, but guys like Morgan, Hill and Davis bring serious talent to the table. I think the odds are higher that they improve rather than stagnate or regress. I know my fans at Field Gulls will disagree, but that's the glory of debate.
Play Calling: This is an issue for the 49ers simply because of the new offensive coordinator....again. Under Jimmy Raye, what kind of play-calling will we see? Coach Singletary wants a smash mouth running game, but will he and Raye force that kind of game even if it's clearly not working? Will Jimmy Raye truly use Vernon Davis as a more traditional receiving tight end, rather than a receiver? Every offensive coordinator speaks of the talent of Davis, but then proceeds to under-utilize him. Jimmy Raye and the play-calling becoming the ultimate question mark for this offense in 2009. The right play-calling will put Hill/Smith in a position to be successful. Maybe not Pro Bowl successful, but again, this team does not need that from their quarterback.
Although there are a lot of question marks, suggesting the performance in 2009 requires making guesses on the answers to those questions. I won't suggest that this offense is going to explode like nobody would believe and leave the 49ers ranked at the top of the league. It is simply not built to be that kind of offense and I am fine with that. I think there's a good chance we'll see a good to very good rushing attack and a middle of the road passing attack. If that comes to fruition, the 49ers will be in good shape. Accordingly, I'll give them a grade of C. It might not quite jive with my individual grades, but that's life.
St. Louis Rams
Blogger: VanRam
Even with so many dangling plots sewn into it, the Rams offense, at last, has a vision to strive for and a pattern to guide it. How far it gets this season remains to be seen, but at least the team and fans will learn what they have and what they need as a new era unfolds. Grade D+
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Lol at Seattle:
Jones and Duckett are both young and healthy.
He forgot to mention dog s**t, too.
A crap running game that loses pieces, adds nothing, but is ok because two pieces of s**t are young and healthy? I applaud the Seahawks for trying to erase a 4-12 season over night. Applaud them with a thunderous ass clap. Whatever that means.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 6, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
Julius Jones averaged 4.4 YPC, and Duckett was one of the best short-yardage/goalline backs in the league. They’re also both versatile, as Duckett and Jones are both great blockers and receivers. Theoretically, they can only post better numbers with much improved blocking (all 5 starting offensive linemen were IR’d. All 5!) and a new blocking-scheme they are familiar with that suits both of their running styles. Not saying either are studs, but both should fit their roles well and get an unfair rep of being the dregs of the league. I mean, Jones did pick up 130 yards the first game vs the 9ers, he’s at least capable.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 6, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still not convinced
TJ Duckett is nothing more than 3 yards and a cloud of dust. He’s a good goal line back.
Julius Jones is way too inconsistent. He came into the league flashing signs of brilliance, and instead produced four “so-so” seasons since.
The zone blocking scheme is becoming more and more present in the NFL, and defenses aren’t having as much trouble countering it anymore. I think the scheme works, yes, but I think you need someone that’s slightly more than capable. Teams still need a steady, reliable running back. Neither have been that in their careers.
Here's to Joe Perry, all-time leading rusher for the 49ers.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 6, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the last time...
I mean, Jones did pick up 130 yards the first game vs the 9ers, he’s at least capable.
That was against Nolan’s genius, let’s play nickel all game long, “big sub” package.
by Sebaz49 on Jul 6, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last year is dead and gone, so
get used to the idea that this year the NINERS are going to rule the roost…
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 6, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess I just don't
understand why folks enjoy the "shoulda-coulda-woulda" thing. There is absolutely no way that anyone can prove one thing or the other about what might have been, could have been, or should have been about last friggin year. It’s like reliving the whole "emaciate reception" thing all over again, or how about the ( for those who know) the "play" between Cal" and Stanford or for heaven sakes the Cival War . Dang, why can’t we let this crap go???… let it be done already… Can we get on with this year. "Geessss Edith, stifle"…
The Hawks, the Cards. and the Lambs are going down this year, that’s not a "shoulda-coulda-woulda " It’s just plain old looking toward da futua
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 6, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I don't understand...
What the heck you’re trying to type here.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 6, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just being stupid
About hawks chatter about last year on a niner blog… felt like it was counter productive or even kinda pointless.
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 8, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would Manny Lawson have made all that difference?
I mean, he specializes in coverage too. Obviously JJ’s total would have suffered but it seems likely he would have been pretty effective.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 6, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The NFC West is so unstable it's hard to predict anything.
Let’s see:
1. HC changes at SF, SEA, & STL
2. Major scheme changes in SF, SEA, & STL
3. Aging, immobile QBs in ARZ, SEA, & STL
4. RB uncertainty in SEA, ARZ, & maybe STL
5. WR uncertainty in SEA, SF, & STL
This division looks more like a bunch of college teams with all the personnel and scheme questions. Within the group, though, it’s the Cards who have the clear advantage at QB, WR, OL and stability of their scheme. If Wells produces at RB, they will be tough to beat without a very good pass rush.
by MontanaPass on Jul 6, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Arizona will be the team to beat, and a tough foe as well. Hopefully the departure of both the OC and DC will have a traumatic effect on the Cards and they’ll suffer the Super Bowl Hangover. Seems doubtful, but let’s hope for it!
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 6, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah, but notice the subtle touches I've put into mine
besides, great logos deserve to be stolen.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 6, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the subtle touches
however a Nationals hat doesn’t count as an improvement unless he is shooting it. lol.
by hudd07 on Jul 6, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well as a nats fan
I put in there not only to represent I’m a nats fan, but yes, to imply the character is shooting the hat (because they suck).
Here's to Joe Perry, all-time leading rusher for the 49ers.
by Andrew Davidson on Jul 6, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Hill is aging and immobile too, for the most part.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 6, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kinda far fetched
It was just last year he lunged with no helmet for the first. Or maybe we should say he’s aging and immobile with a bigger PAIR!!
by Real Deal P Will on Jul 6, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, you missed a few things
2. Major scheme changes in SF, SEA, & STL
ARZ definitely belongs in this category.
They have two new coordinators Billy Davis doesn’t seem like much of an upgrade over Pendergast (spelling?)
3. Aging, immobile QBs in ARZ, SEA, & STL
This doesn’t really matter, immobile QBs can still be effective in the right schemes.
by chikmagnet_565 on Jul 6, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is better bo be
an over achieving team ( doing better than general expectations) than and under achieving team. I really can’t say the niners have the best offense ( on paper at least) but I am willing to say that we definitely have an offense that is up to the challenge of being the best in the division. I do think that our offense measures up nicely against any defense in the division.
To the point that fearless frog raises regarding Shaun Hills age I don’t see that as an issue because he is only 29 and has so little mileage at this point.. He hasn’t had that much playing time compared to others of the same years in the NFL. As for mobility, well he has shown last year that he can scramble and he did rush for 115 yards in the few starts he had last year..
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 6, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"f Hasselbeck is healthy, stays healthy, and hasn’t grown old overnight,"
Isn’t that – exactly – what happens over night
by foosball4949 on Jul 6, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Believe it or not
I think the Cards guy and the Rams guy were too harsh on their teams. Crappy rushing attack doesn’t mean as much when you have an effective short passing game and a back like Steven Jackson elevates just about any offense above D+ (if only to C-)
by foosball4949 on Jul 6, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fooch you were spot on
the way I look at your grades are the way madden ratings work. upon the release of the game EA sports has no choice but to mostly base stuff on past production (so they artificially lower a lot of other wise highish stats) but as the season progresses and they add roster updates then ratings rise. I think your grades essentially jump ahead to projected later roster update levels. I think that Hill and the receivers will prove themselves as the season progresses, but it’s hard to grade them at above a C on current careers.
I’m writing this from a hostel in Seattle where I’m visiting for the first time and I’m a little ashamed to say that I really, really like it…
by foosball4949 on Jul 6, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go to the Funhouse young man...
Good times.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 6, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad you're enjoying yourself there.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 6, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
they have hostels in Seattle?
be careful dude, haven’t you ever seen that movie
and in his 4th season, VD broke through the wall, Niners fan rejoiced and all was well in the kingdom. Singletary 3:42
by 49erLou on Jul 7, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point. That movie scared the everlasting shit out of me.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 7, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah and they throw keggers
they have one in SF, too, it’s called the green tortoise. I think in SF it’s located in whatever passes for the red light district
by foosball4949 on Jul 7, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Location
I’ve never been there but Google maps indicates Broadway and Kearny, which is definitely right in the red light district of sorts.
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been there..
Knew a traveler who stayed there. Had a good time with the other travelers too.
North Beach isn’t really the “Red Light” district IMO. The have a lot of tourist trap strip clubs, but that’s about it. The Tenderloin is the Red Light district in SF.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 8, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
red light district
North beach is the old school red light district.
by Fooch on Jul 8, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True..
But a true Red Light district has hookers along with other decadent stuff. Well, NB does have Thailand Massage, but the Tenderloin has a lot of those too. Two blocks of decadence as opposed to a square mile of it?
Tenderloin FTW.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jul 8, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle
I don’t think I’ve met a person who has gone on a trip to Seattle who hasn’t really really liked that city.
by sfgfan on Jul 7, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seattle
Solid city, hate the weather. Although, last time I was there (August 2007) it was perfect all weekend. Definitely enjoyed that.
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
I don’t mind the weather, though. Great food, sights (views are ridiculously awesome), and the people are generally nice to tourist. I have heard, though, locals don’t like it when people go from being tourists to permanent residents.
by sfgfan on Jul 7, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
I don’t plan on doing that, but they are nice, and the weather is as well (shocking!)
I had arranged my trip so that I could be in SF for training camp but I hadn’t done the math right/was ignorant of when the niners could start so it turns out I’m flying back to the east coast the day before they start. I’m very disappointed
by foosball4949 on Jul 7, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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