Projecting the 49ers 53-man roster #1
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 8:00 AM PDT
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FOOCH'S NOTE: Typo on my part. I listed 54 guys by accident. I've decided to subtract Curtis Taylor at this point. Sfgfan made a good point that with Mark Roman working out at both FS and SS they'll have some flexibility there and no need for a fifth safety.
Over the last couple months, people have begun rolling out their 53-man roster projections. We had kiyoshi rolling out an immediate post-draft depth chart comparison to 2008. That was followed by sam23 with the impressively early projection. I believe there have been some more, so feel free to post them in here, or link to them. Up until now I've been posting projections at each position as an exercise to start squaring away the last few roster spots. The first 40-45 spots are fairly easy to determine. It's those last 8-13 that are a toss-up.
Last year I rolled out my first 53-man roster projection in early June. Things ended up busy enough this year that we've held off on the roll-out until only a few weeks before training camp. As we did last year, the second roster projection will be shortly after the first preseason game and the second will come just before the final preseason game. And don't forget that we'll have a practice squad projection coming soon as well. It's only slightly more useful than projecting the 2010 draft in August 2009, but what are you gonna do, right? Anyways, onto the projection.
Offense
QB (3): Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, Nate Davis
RB (34): Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Michael Robinson, Kory Sheets
FB (1): Moran Norris
WR (6): Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, Josh Morgan, Jason Hill, Michael Crabtree, Arnaz Battle
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Bear Pascoe
LT (2): Joe Staley, Barry Sims
LG (1): David Baas
C (2): Eric Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG (2): Chilo Rachal, Tony Wragge
RT (2): Marvel Smith, Adam Snyder
Defense
DE (5): Justin Smith, Kentwan Balmer, Demetric Evans, Isaac Sopoaga, Ray McDonald***
DT (1): Aubrayo Franklin
OLB (3): Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Jay Moore
ILB (5): Patrick Willis, Takeo Spikes, Jeff Ulbrich, Scott McKillop, Ahmad Brooks
CB (5): Nate Clements, Dre Bly, Tarell Brown, Shawntae Spencer, Marcus Hudson
FS (2): Dashon Goldson, Mark Roman
SS (2): Michael Lewis, Reggie Smith, Curtis Taylor
Special Teams
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings
KR/PR: Allen Rossum
Last 5 on: Jay Moore, Ahmad Brooks, Curtis Taylor, Kory Sheets, Arnaz Battle
First 5 off: Ricky Jean-Francois, Dominique Zeigler, Thomas Clayton, Alex Boone, Justin Roland
***If McDonald starts the regular season on the PUP list, Ricky Jean-Francois takes this spot
After the jump I provide an overview of these projections, along with a look at the numerous bubble spots. After you've read that over, feel free to tear me a new one on some of these selections.
THE BUBBLE
As should be expected, there are several guys I've put on this list that are on very shaky ground. I'd like to make a quick clarification. I have Aubrayo Franklin listed as the only defensive tackle. That will most certainly not be the case once the season starts, but I think it would be some of the other primary defensive ends (Sopoaga and Balmer) spelling Franklin at times. Thus, I leave them at their traditional position.
WR
The bubble is really where it's all at. As I said before, the last 10 or so spots can be rather dicey, and the last 3 or 4, even more so. I took a look back at our various roster projections to see what people were thinking about some of these bubble spots. Many of you might be surprised to see Battle on my 53-man roster. I was a bit surprised myself, as I actually voted that neither would be on the roster way back when. However, when I got down to the end, I had some spots open and I think Battle's special teams contributions could very well carry the day. Of course, that also qualifies as one of my two or three most tenuous picks.
OT
Another spot where I really had to think was the last offensive lineman on the roster. For now, I've placed Barry Sims on the roster and Alex Boone as one of the first five left off. Based on our previous poll, I know a lot of people will disagree with me at this point. I actually had Alex Boone initially, given the undeniable talent this youngster has. However, there are two reasons I switched Boone and Sims. I think the team will go with a veteran backup at tackle and Alex Boone has practice squad eligibility. Sims was not good last year, but if an emergency arises and Joe Staley has to leave the field, I think the team wants a veteran on hand. Of course, if Alex Boone impresses in training camp, that could be one of the first changes I make on the second projection.
RB
Running back is another position that will certainly generate some controversy. After the first 3 guys, will Kory Sheets make the roster, will Thomas Clayton make the roster, or will neither? I decided to go with Sheets in this little exercise. People are high on him as a potential kick returner, which would certainly give him a leg up against Clayton. Also, given the potential he could bring as a running back, I see more reason to keep him than a guy like Micheal Spurlock. There are plenty of Clayton supporters (I've been one of them), but I'm slowly coming to accept the fact that we may just not see him in a 49ers uniform in the regular season anytime soon. Training camp might change that, so we'll see.
LB
Ahmad Brooks and Jay Moore are both larks for me at this point. I was getting close to 53 and like the talent both could bring to the table. Of the two of them, Moore is probably more likely to not make the 53-man given his practice squad eligibility. I think Moore is probably the #1 person most likely to be removed from this list come early August. It just pains me so.
QB
Why Nate Davis over Damon Huard? Well, first, I see no way Davis makes it through waivers onto the practice squad. Second, Damon Huard may be a great guy for all I know, but what does he really bring to the table? This team does not need a Trent Dilfer type mentor at this point. And as far as upside off the bench? Well, Huard doesn't bring that either. He's certainly not an awful QB, but there's just not enough there worth hanging on to.
Early thoughts for projection #2
Consider this a general summary of changes I would not be surprised by in the least. Jay Moore and Ahmad Brooks could certainly practice/play their way off this list. Kory Sheets and Arnaz Battle could both certainly do the same. Really anybody in the last 5 on or first 5 off could play their way on or off the list. Most of the free world finds preseason football completely useless. The rest of us realize how much value there is in these games. Well, at least 3 of them. Last season the preseason saw a guy like Josh Morgan played himself into contention (injury issues aside), while a guy like Dontarrious Thomas played himself off the team.
So, where am I way off? If you want to roll out an entire 53-man roster projection, fire away in the comments. If you just want to point out differences, that works too. Just a heads-up to post them here as opposed to a new FanPost for now. For references, check out the ESPN Depth Chart and the team site roster list.
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Looks about right
I doubt the Niners carry 6 WR. But one DT, I know Sopoaga can play both DE and DT, but having only 1 DT and one real possible back-up kind of scares me. The OLB depth is worrisome as well, although I suspect that Brooks will get moved to OLB. I also think 10 DB is probably at least 1 too many considering the lack of bodies at DL and LB.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jul 7, 2009 8:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WR/DB
I was definitely struggling on the WR and DB situation given the numbers. I think there’s a better chance the team keeps 5 receivers over 6, but I wasn’t 100% sold on RJF on the 53-man at this point. But I could see RJF getting on over Battle or Taylor.
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I could see RJF getting on over Battle or Taylor.
I think the 49ers would put RJF on over Taylor if that were the choice. Five safeties is just a bit much, especially with Roman supposedly the #1 backup behind both starters.
by sfgfan on Jul 7, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could see Both Battle and Roman not making the team
and Taylor and possibly Spurlock both staying on. Also there is a good possibility that Boone makes it over Sims. Sims did not play well last year. Also McDonald may not make it physically and I think they would prefer to put him on the PUP list then chance losing him altogether which would open a spot for RJF
The 49ers are going to have some good talent on the practice squad.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
by Eastbayjim on Jul 7, 2009 8:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Marques Harris?
Has he been cut already? Did I miss that? Or do you think he has no chance? Or maybe I just missed his name? (I checked through a couple of times but couldn’t see him).
by LondonNiner on Jul 7, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Harris
He probably should have been mentioned in the bubble section on linebackers. He has not been cut yet. I wouldn’t say he has no chance, but I just don’t see it at this point. That first game will tell us a lot more about what the team thinks of him.
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's a decent pass rusher thats why i think he'll make the team.
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 7, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would take Boone over Simms
Boone couldn’t do any worse than Simms. Zeigler over Battle or Bruce. Let the young guys get in there and learn today, not tomorrow. If this team is going to move forward, you got to take chances with the young guys. Winning the Division would give theses young men a chance to see what it like. Could it be any better with the older guys? I don’t think so. Maybe, I just thinking about a youth movement.
by LASVEGASNINER on Jul 7, 2009 9:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
completely agree on boone over sims
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 7, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ziegler over Bruce?
I see what you’re saying about youth and giving them experience, but then what do you call Jason Hill, Josh Morgan, and Michael Crabtree? At some point these guys are gonna need some veteran leadership helping them along the way, be it vocally or just by watching a veteran like Ike (which would probably be the latter because we all know how vocal Bruce is).
when will the Kenny Thomas Reign of Terror end?!!??
by diehardkingsfan5 on Jul 7, 2009 10:27 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Battle would be rated 6th on the WR roster and wouldn’t get much playing time. Besides, Minor injuries and speed are taking its toll.( Next year, Minus bruce) this team will have plently of experiences players ( Jones,Morgan and Hill ) Crabtree and Zeigler will have one year. Both these young men could use that. Lets just say that they cut Battle and he doesn’t get pick by another team, he could become available if needed and if he does sign, they got Spurlock as a backup. Zeigler has way to much upside to put him on the Practice Squad and what would happen if he got an offer to play somewhere else? Then it back to the draft for a iffy replacement.The Niners had a terrible record for WR in the draft. That is until lately.
by LASVEGASNINER on Jul 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boone Over Simms
Alex Smith is really good and was rated to go in the 3rd round last year but his drinking and driving incidents brought that down. Simms isnt all that good so how much worse could it get
by Ya Boy Vic on Jul 7, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's okay
It was funny that way. ;-)
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 12, 2009 2:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not bad BUT
i would keep curtis taylor and release mark roman(never liked him)
id drop battle(another guy i cant stand), jay moore and id rather have alex boone over barry sims.
so add curtis taylor, ricky jean-francois, alex boone, ahmad brooks to the STAYS pile.
also yo left out LB marques harris who i think makes the team…..
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Jul 7, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed about Battle
Battle over Zeigler was the only objection I had. In thinking about it though, if the Niners get hit with injuries again at WR, they will probably be happy to have the experienced and sure-handed Battle on the roster.
by FanBelge on Jul 7, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Battle will not make the team
Fans stuck in the 80's are lame. Respect the past, live in the now.
by maveric_87 on Jul 7, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like most of it with a few exceptions..
i really want to see what clayton, sheets, and robinson can do at the runningback position in the preseason. clayton and robinson are 3 and 4 years into the league and i think one of those 3 has to be cut or put on the practice squad. and i hope its not sheets…i am obviously a big clayton fan too and want to see him earn his way off of the practice squad. i used to be a big arnaz battle fan but he’s getting old and has had injury problems as of late and the speed is not there, i am 100% in favor of scrapping him for a potential zeigler. i really don’t like the idea of having only one DT even though there are other guys who could play it. i don’t think Sing will either. And my sleeeepers to make the team are margues harris, RJF, and alex boone…i think he could play right, or left and we still have a versatile o-line that could step in for either tackle if we didnt want to through him in just yet….but there’s already 54 players in your 53 player roster projection, but i think i just made it 56 soo oh well.
by 2ninersonecup on Jul 7, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
whoops
I completed missed the 54 guys. I added Curtis Taylor and forgot to update the number there…I’m going to go through and remove somebody then.
by Fooch on Jul 7, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, just a small note
You list 4 RBs, but only have it marked as 3. The math seems to be right, in that you account for all 4 in your 53 man total, but it might create confusion…
by Sebaz49 on Jul 7, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robinson is a lock.
You can’t compare Clayton to Robinson. For his special teams value alone, MRob stays on this team. Last season his block was responsible for a Rossum kickoff return; he was one of the top tacklers on special teams as well, not to mention special teams captain. Clayton is the slowest of our RBs (4.63), and is not a good blocker or receiver. The second half of last season, MRob caught 17 passes for 201 yards. Also, he was seen working out at QB in the wildcat formation during OTAs. Because of his versatility, MRob allows us to carry just 4 RBs, which enables us to carry an extra QB or WR (or pass rusher?). He is signed to a long-term contract and is going nowhere. We need players like him who put out 100% on every play.
It’s Sheets vs. Clayton, IF they decide to go with 5 RBs, and Sheets has it all over Clayton for speed and versatility since he returns kicks.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Jul 13, 2009 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do not get rid of bruce
the man had a mentally retarded mullet throwing at him half the season or more and still came down with 800 and 8 tds or something(dont quote me). play the man until he doesn’t produce anymore then let him “quietly teach” as he does. there’s a reason we were waiting for HIM to come back, he wasn’t waiting for US.
by 2ninersonecup on Jul 7, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
little presence ?
I wonder why Bruce has shown up for the contractually minimum this pre-season. Is his heart really in this? Shouldn’t he be excited about this teams prospects this year? Or is he ticked off about the lack of Martz?
Every play he’s on the field is one where Morgan or Hill or Crabtree is not. Those guys are future for the Niners.
You show me a man with a sense of pride, and I'l show you a guy with limited options.
by cervant on Jul 7, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder why Bruce has shown up for the contractually minimum this pre-season. Is his heart really in this?
If I’m not mistaken, this has been Bruce’s M.O. for his entire career. I can’t look it up right now, but I’m pretty sure both Maiocco and Barrows has mentioned that this is an annual thing for Bruce, not just something since he’s joined the 49ers.
by sfgfan on Jul 8, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as opposed to shaun hill's...
cleverly candid mullet…haha…idk
by 2ninersonecup on Jul 7, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
5 MLBs?
I would rather have 4 MLBs and 4 OLBs. Whether that means Ahmad Brooks as OLB or minus Ahmad Brooks and add Marques Harris im not sure. Also I rather have Battle cut and have another OL, so we could have Boone and Simms
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Jul 7, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure...
… the team is looking at Brooks as a OLB this training camp rather than ILB.
I also agree with your second statement. I like Boone and he has a lot more usefulness beyond this year than Battle does to the team (considering Battle’s deal is up and it’s doubtful the 49ers will bring him back).
by sfgfan on Jul 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Battle
I know he was one of the last to make it, so I understand you had a tough time keeping Battle on.
But if his value is ST, do you really think the Niners would have 6 WR active every game?
4 of those guys will definitely be active every game, and so the niners would either be short a guy at another position, or have a multi-million dollar player (between Battle and Jones) inactive every week.
by DesertFox on Jul 7, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rossum
I’d also like to hope that someone can challenge him for his KR job, maybe Sheets, because I’m not too found of carrying such a one dimensional player.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jul 7, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just to add to the confusion
I saw this blurb on the Nugets..
The Niners have signed an undrafted rookie Brit Miller off of waivers from the Panthers. Miller was signed as and LB but looks they plan to bring him as a FB.. check out the link
Ninjames has in the Golden Nugets post “Niners add rookie LB to play FB” for the details.
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 7, 2009 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My Add
Obviously injuries during the pre-season will muck all this up, but: for now:
I’d keep Ricky Jean-Francois, Dominique Zeigler, Clayton, Alex Boone, Curtis Talyor.
I’d cut Battle, Roman, Simms, Moore. McDonald to PUP. I think Britt Miller is a long shot project that doesn’t end up working. . . Brooks or Harris, not both.
And here’s my big shocker: Michael Robinson gets cut if Jay Moore can stay healthy and get to the QB in pre-season. He’s not a true QB or a true RB and if we’re not going to get very creative offensively and start really being more of a gadget team, which I certainly wouldn’t mind but seriously doubt we’ll see, then Robinson won’t fit here and should go to a team that knows how to use his talent.
In other words, go for more youth, save some money, keep the best players rather than keeping a lesser player because of experience or ST.
Practice squad can help sort things out too but there’s always the possibility we get poached.
And let me not be the first or last to gripe about not getting Ellis from Dallas instead of the Raiders getting him. We need him, as you can see by the above. How about Ellis instead of Brooks or Moore, or McDonald if you project him at DE vs OLB. Suddenly we’d look a lot stronger. That was a really stupid mistake not to go after him for a 2 year contract. He’s a great teammate and teacher and has a lot left and a lot to prove. We still need a big time pass rusher, rather than a hope and a prayer that Manny or Brooks become monsters. We had a good shot at getting him and blew it. Would have made passing on a 2nd round pick like Everette Brown for a 1st round pick look A LOT better.
by Since79 on Jul 7, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The ability to play QB is far down the list of reasons for keeping Mrob around, even if this were a gadget offense.
His value lies elsewhere.
Robinson isn’t just an experienced ST guy, he’s one of the best in the league. He also serves as the backup FB on gamedays.
And Moore isn’t any younger than Robinson. Jay Moore has no relevance to Mrob’s roster spot.
by DesertFox on Jul 7, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellis
I don’t think the 49ers really need him. They have a bunch of young players lobbying for playtime at 3-4 DE. I’m not entirely sure Ellis could be an effective 3-4 OLB, but I could be wrong.
Also, McDonald going on the PUP sidelines him for at least half the season, if I’m not mistaken. I don’t know if the 49ers would do that unless he really needs all that time to get ready.
by sfgfan on Jul 8, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's played 3-4 OLB for the last few years
No way he can play 3-4 DE.
by Brendan Scolari on Jul 25, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll bet you $100,000,000 that Michael Robinson makes the squad
You show me a man with a sense of pride, and I'll show you a guy with limited options.
by cervant on Jul 9, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shocker is right.
Singletary would have you committed. He LOVES Robinson because MRob puts out the same type of effort on every play. What is it about Clayton that would make you keep him? His 4.63 speed? The fact he’s a poor blocker and has mediocre hands? His 4.4 average against 3rd string defenses in the 2nd half of meaningless games? Of course not. Some fans are turned on by the guy’s muscles. He has never performed at a good level in his career. Only 1000 yards in 4 years of college in which he ended up as the 3rd string RB for Kansas State and gained an amazing 330 yards his senior season. This guy is not the classic underachiever — he has NEVER achieved at any level. Sorry to rant, but keeping him and cutting one of our most valuable assets is ridiculous.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Jul 13, 2009 5:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's with Ahmad Brooks
listed as an ILB? i thought he was more of a pass-rush OLB.
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by these3words on Jul 7, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Post Training Camp Prediction - It's gonna' Change Once They Start Hitting!
Offense
QB (3): Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, Nate Davis
RB (3): Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Kory Sheets
FB (2): Moran Norris, Michael Robinson (ST & two back combo)
WR (5): Josh Morgan, Michael Crabtree, Jason Hill , Isaac Bruce (Mentor/4 receiver set/situational/keep things calm when we get into the playoffs), Brandon Jones
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Bear Pascoe (double TE run set)
LT (2): Joe Staley, Barry Sims
LG (1): David Baas
C (2): Eric Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG (2): Chilo Rachal, Tony Wragge
RT (2): Marvel Smith, Adam Snyder
Defense
DE (3): Justin Smith, Kentwan Balmer, Demetric Evans,
DT (3): Aubrayo Franklin, Isaac Sopoaga, Ricky Jean-Francois (toss up for starters)
OLB (3): Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks
ILB (5): Patrick Willis, Takeo Spikes, Jeff Ulbrich, Scott McKillop,
CB (5): Nate Clements, Dre Bly, Tarell Brown, Shawntae Spencer, Marcus Hudson
FS (2): Dashon Goldson, Mark Roman
SS (2): Michael Lewis, Reggie Smith (if Lewis isn’t available)
Special Teams
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings
KR/PR: Allen Rossum
The three players I think will make the team once pads are on… wait for it…
Alex Boone (OT), Dominique Zeigler (WR & ST),
by Slong on Jul 8, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
various thoughts
- you seem to have missed Isaac Bruce’s value as an actual wide receiver, rather than just a team mate. keep in mind he had 7 TDs and over 800 yards last year. he can still play.
- RJF moved to DE.
- a 3-4 defense needs more than 3 OLBs on the roster. (good choice for the #3 though.)
- you put a (5) by ILB and then only listed 4.
- you said 3 players in the last paragraph and then only mentioned 2.
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by these3words on Jul 8, 2009 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts for Fooch and All.....
I doubt Battle makes it because Jones is Battle but FASTER. Jones was a 3rd down WR with great downfield blocking for Titans but only WAY faster than Battle. We don’t need 2 of those types. Special Teams or not, it’s not enough to keep a guy when there is a better clone of him that just signed for a bunch of guaranteed money just a couple months ago.
As for Davis, I think he WOULD make it through waivers. I mean he was a 5th round pick and there are only 7 rounds. He does have talent but I don’t think a team will be willing to give him a roster spot in order to keep a 5th round pick as a LONG term project. To be honest I’m surprised we grabbed him. I’d rather us use a 1st round pick next year for a QB. I would have been totally fine going into the year with Smith, Hill, and Huard with our 3rd stringer next year being our 1st round pick in 2010. I’m perplexed with the Davis pick. He won’t be ready for a couple years so either your saying we are fine with Hill and Smith for the next couple years, or we are drafting a QB next year to start for us anyways. I don’t think Davis projects as a starter in the NFL. I get it, he has the physical tools but so did M. Rob. I think the dyslexia and mechanics (ie. laces) will keep him from making it. I think with QB, smarts is more important than physical.
I’m curious as to peoples thoughts on this….
by hudd07 on Jul 8, 2009 3:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice write-up...
Nate Davis: I don’t know if Davis makes it through waivers or not, its risky, but its probably the right choice. But as to why he was drafted: I think that whoever wins the QB competition this year is on a one-to-two year “prove it” campaign. The loser will remain for this season and will be gone next year. Davis is then groomed to be a career back-up and another QB is selected early next year to be the “next” QB of the future (with one exception: if A. Smith wins and has a very good year, all three QBs might stay around next year).
Offense (27)
QB (2): Shaun Hill, Alex Smith (Nate Davis to P.S.)
RB (4): Frank Gore, Glen Coffee, Kory Sheets, Michael Robinson
FB (1): Moran Norris
WR (6): Josh Morgan, Michael Crabtree, Jason Hill , Isaac Bruce, Brandon Jones, D. Ziegler
TE (3): Vernon Davis, Delanie Walker, Bear Pascoe
LT (2): Joe Staley, Alex Boone
LG (1): David Baas
C (2): Eric Heitmann, Cody Wallace
RG (2): Chilo Rachal, Tony Wragge
RT (2): Marvel Smith, Adam Snyder
Defense (22)
DE (3): Justin Smith, Kentwan Balmer, Demetric Evans,
DT (3): Aubrayo Franklin, Isaac Sopoaga, Ricky Jean-Francois
OLB (3): Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson, Ahmad Brooks
ILB (4): Patrick Willis, Takeo Spikes, Jeff Ulbrich, Scott McKillop
CB (5): Nate Clements, Dre Bly, Tarell Brown, Shawntae Spencer, Marcus Hudson
FS (2): Dashon Goldson, Mark Roman (Curtis Taylor to P.S.)
SS (2): Michael Lewis, Reggie Smith
Special Teams (3)
K: Joe Nedney
P: Andy Lee
LS: Brian Jennings
KR/PR: Thomas Clayton/Delanie Walker
Yes, for some reason I think Thomas Clayton makes this team returing kicks… ; )
by NorCal BillsFan on Jul 8, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton kick returner?
I’m not sure but I don’t think Clayton has much KR experience. We have Rossum who has 2nd most career KR yards and was great for us last year. We also have Sheets who I think would be better because he is faster and is more explosive as a runner, something which I think is important in KR/PR
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Jul 8, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 QBs?
I don’t recall any team only carrying two QBs on their regular season roster.
You show me a man with a sense of pride, and I'll show you a guy with limited options.
by cervant on Jul 9, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It happens
Apparently a lot more than you think.
Don't sweat it. I'm illiterate.
by methodrampage on Jul 9, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do the colts
actually have a guy behind jim sorgi?
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by these3words on Jul 9, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOPE
Per their depth chart no 3rd QB which is why I think its absurd to think we could possibly carry 4 for all you Huard AND Davis guys.
by hudd07 on Jul 10, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depth charts change
and given the horror story we saw that last two years we needed 3QB’s… If there is a solid reason for the coaching staff to belive that this year the O-Line will provide signifcantly better pass protection and able to open up more holes to better enable the running game then I can see 2 QB’s
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 10, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with the 3 QB part but am just not on board with 4 QBs.
I think you carry 2 QBs when your #1 is an absolute stud. But when there are health concerns or you carry two #2 rated QBs than I can see 3 QBs on the roster. Never would I consider 4.
by hudd07 on Jul 10, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no
I agree 3 is the limit , we need that roster spot for anyone of a number of guys on either side of the ball…
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 10, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SF actually used 4 different QBs in 2007:
Smith, Dilfer, Hill, Weinke
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Jul 11, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Credit the Offensive hole ( ops I mean line) and Mike
Martz’s offensive scheme for that… You can’t compete and certainly can’t win if the QB is horizontal most of the game.
by WC-Ninerhead on Jul 11, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clayton return kicks
over one of the all-time NFL great kickoff returners? Now that is funny. His 4.63 speed compared to Rossum’s 4.3 will be fun to watch.
Kezarvet
by kezarvet on Jul 13, 2009 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inactives?
So the 8 inactives at the begining of the season with this 53 man roster? N. Davis, Sheets, Battle, Wallace, Moore, McKillsop or Brooks, Hudson (unless Spencer isn’t ready) and who? Do you think Battle is going to be happy as an inactive and how does he maintain his roster spot if he is inactive and can’t help out on special teams. And do you think the 49ers are going to want to pay his salary if he is inactive most games? He has to beat out J. Hill and how does that help the 49ers for next year when Battle probably won’t be resigned anyway? This is why you need at who is going to be active when looking at the 53 man roster. To me it makes more sense if you are going to keep 6 receivers that Ziggy or Spurlock make it as the sixth, not Battle. If Rossum gets hurt then Spurlock (or Ziggy) gets moved to the active group and you don’t have to worry about Clements returning punts for a whole lot less money than Battle.
by Black47 on Jul 12, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This roster is almost the same as mine, only i would replace Barry Sims (Sims almost single handedly lost the Dolphins game for us) with Alex Boone (huge upside). To this list I would add a practice squad roster:
T- Joe Toledo
G- Kyle Howard
WR- Dominique Ziegler
DE/NT- Khalif Mitchell
DE- Ricky Jean-Francios
LB- Diyral Briggs
CB- Jahi Word-Daniels
FS- Curtis Taylor
by Psykill55 on Jul 13, 2009 4:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
throw in S Lewis Baker
and Carlos Thomas, in place of Jahi Word-Daniels.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
by these3words on Jul 13, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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