Stephen Strasburg vs. Michael Crabtree: Showdown at the $$$ Corral
It wouldn't be a complete week without a Michael Crabtree post and today is a good time for it given the significance of midnight eastern tonight. The Washington Nationals have until then to come to terms with their #1 draft pick, phenom pitcher Stephen Strasburg. Strasburg is considered the proverbial "once-in-a-generation talent" and he also happens to be represented by Scott Boras. Needless to say, that has caused much consternation in the Nationals attempts to sign Strasburg.
The highest bonus given to an MLB draft choice was $10.5 million to Mark Prior. The Nationals have reportedly offered Strasburg a contract worth anywhere from $12.5 million to $17 million. Additionally, one report indicates incentives could make it worth over $20 million. If you're interested, you can follow this deadline dance at our Nationals website, Federal Baseball.
So why do I bring this up in relation to Michael Crabtree? Well, Boras has indicated he thinks Strasburg should get a contract similar to that of a Daisuke Matsuzaka. When he came over from Japan, the Red Sox paid $50 million to the Japanese team for the rights to negotiate, and then handed Dice-K an approximately $50 million contract. Boras thinks Strasburg deserves that kind of $50 million contract (not the posting fee mentioned first). It basically comes down to a philosophical belief, sort of like the issue we have with Crabtree.
Now obviously the situations have two big-time differences:
First, and most important for the Nationals, If they do not sign Strasburg by midnight, they'll receive the #2 overall pick in next year's draft as compensation. They actually failed to sign their 2008 #1 pick and received I believe the #10 overall pick as compensation. The 49ers would get no such compensation.
Second, Crabtree's options are much more limited at this point. If Strasburg doesn't sign, he can play for an independent league in the US or head over to Japan for a season. I also think he can go back to college, but I don't know the rules on that if he's already signed Boras as an agent (as opposed to just an advisor - I'm pretty sure though he can go back for his senior year at SDSU). Crabtree can't go back to school and his only real comparable option is the UFL, but if he goes to another league he's locked down to the 49ers even longer.
Just looking at those two differences, there is definitely a lot of good and a lot of bad for the 49ers. While it's true the 49ers would potentially lose a draft choice if Crabtree went back into the draft, such a move remains a big problem for Crabtree. His only leverage on the 49ers is that they lose his rights. On the other hand, Crabtree is pretty much guaranteed to lose money if he doesn't sign with the 49ers. And when I say lose money, I think it would be a whole lot of money. Not only would he likely drop pretty far after sitting out a year, but I'd imagine he could turn into another Mike Williams in terms of long term value.
I remain convinced he'll sign by sometime in September (maybe even right before the first game). However, I personally find it interesting to compare this situation with that of other teams and leagues. There are plenty of differences, but not so surprisingly, the whole "philosophical difference" creeps up every time.
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I’m pretty confident that Crabtree will sign too. It makes no sense for him to sit out… and it’s not like B.J. Raji (picked #9) got top 5 money either, even though a lot of projections had him going that high as well. I’m cool with giving Crabtree a similar deal as D.H.B., but would like to see a 6th year added on, instead of DHB’s 5 years.
I think both sides (Niner’s and Crabtree’s camp) are being stubborn and should try to meet somewhere in the middle. Just get it done already.
As far as Strasburg… he’s too good for the Nationals anyways…lol. He has a chance to be a #1 pick again next year, but it’s not like he can do much better than the way he pitched this year… I mean, that’s nearly impossible… so really, he risks injury, and that’s a huge risk to become the #1 pick again (which isn’t a guarantee either). And Boras is asking $50 million, because he’s comparing him to a pitcher who pitched in Japan? That’s like comparing apples to oranges and saying they taste the same… or saying that Crabtree is already as good as Larry Fitzgerald.
by aBulldog on Aug 17, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s like comparing apples to oranges and saying they taste the same… or saying that Crabtree is already as good as Larry Fitzgerald.
That’s the smartest thing I’ve heard all day.
by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 17, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The 9ers would be foolish to pay him DHB money.
He should get less $ the longer he holds out since he is hurting his value so much.
by CardsDefense on Aug 17, 2009 2:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I took it to mean a contract worth about the same as DHB, but with an extra year. Making the per year number lower, but signing him for a longer period.
As it stands his first year is going to be at least a partial redshirt deal as it stands.
I think him being held out of all the drills due to his foot has hidden the step change to the pro’s from him. I kinda think he believes he’ll be able to step in and contribute right away when he’s got a lot to learn, even more so considering his previous offensive system.
by Dave R. on Aug 17, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I meant to add on the 6th year, making it less money per season, but similar in total value. I think that’s a fair compromise, benefiting Crabtree a little more than it would the 49ers… but it gets the deal done. You can never have too many weapons on offense…. especially since I wasn’t too impressed with the O-Line in the first pre-season game. The Niners are going to have to probably make a lot of quick throws, and that could be pretty hard for teams to compete with, if you have a few weapons on the field.
by aBulldog on Aug 17, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crabs will join VD soon enough in SF
He’s gonorrhealized SF won’t pay him more than Raji, much less DHB, but certainly more than Maybin. It’s called a fair slot deal, Michael. Sure, Al Davis is crazy enough to choose speed over anything but the other 8 teams passed too after some told him they will pick him should he be available.
I know it’s business as well as saving face for both Eugene Parker and Crabtree so they will hold out until the week before Game #1 to prove that they won – only to find out there’s a guy name Ziegler in front of him on the depth chart.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Aug 17, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Baseball's way different.
Footballs more of a team sport, you can take that Pitcher and plug him into any team and he will immediately contribute. Thus why you see very few trades of players after the season begins.
by Mullester on Aug 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
....
How are the Royals doing?
by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 17, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s just hope he doesn’t announce plans for a 2nd foot surgery 30 minutes after inking his deal.
by bignerd on Aug 17, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs a brain surgeon if he sits out !
There use to be a good hospital in Napa !
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 17, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brain surgery. well perhapps???
Crap the dude is a total wreck when getting people who can guide him. He is clearly looking for the moon but he is really screwing up his career if he continues on this path and would be such a waste of God given talent to do so..
Michael,,, THINK ABOUT IT.. PLEASE FOR YOUR OWN GOOD..
by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 17, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Screwing up his career? By holding out a little? You think so?
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Aug 17, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
by continuing on this path
I think he meant that he would screw up his career by holding out the entire year.
But only and idiot would do that….he’s really going to give up an entire year of pay?
by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 17, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not going to do that.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Aug 17, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not just giving up a year of pay...
Nominally, it could be argued that he’d be giving up YEARS worth of guaranteed money.
by sfgfan on Aug 19, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What ever happen to fair market Value?
Can I get $10 grand for my Pinto ? Crabtree needs to understand a old motto, The Buck Stops Here ! Or another one, Take A Hike ! I’m sure there are few more saying. Anyone care to mention some more ?
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 17, 2009 6:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't see
How any of this relates to Crabtree at all.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 17, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I triple dog dare
Crabs to wait until next draft
by Tony C on Aug 17, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
YEA ME TOO...
I Triple , Triple dog dare ya. Go own dude, get your 15 minutes of fame as FRIGING HOLD OUT.
by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 17, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg signed.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Aug 17, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Good for the Nats, they deserve some hope.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 17, 2009 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steven Speilberg vs. Crabtree at the $$$ Corral is more like it.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Aug 18, 2009 1:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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