Projecting the San Francisco 49ers Practice Squad
I had been holding off putting together a projection of the practice squad. However, today Maiocco posted a quality Q&A that included a question about the practice squad. MM posted his projection at this point, so I thought we'd post that and use that as a catalyst for discussion:
The practice squad will consist of eight players. Let's go with OL Alex Boone and Matt Spanos; OLB Diyral Briggs; TE J.J. Finley; QB Nate Davis; FB Brit Miller; CB Terrail Lambert and DT Khalif Mitchell. Others who might be near the top of the list are: CB Carlos Thomas, DE Pannel Egboh, WR Dominique Zeigler (torn between PS and active roster) and OLB Jay Moore.
I'll admit that until recently I was convinced there was no way Nate Davis ended up on the practice squad. I'm still leaning towards no, but the next two games will clear that up a little more. Part of this depends on how quickly the #1 QB decision is made (more thoughts on that tomorrow probably). If Davis gets next to know playing time this preseason, it's hard to justify a spot on the 53-man roster if they also keep Huard.
And yet I continue to think somebody would claim him off waivers. Say you're the Indianapolis Colts (as just one example). You've got Manning and Sorgi. Would it be worth taking a flier on a guy like Davis as your #3 emergency QB? Manning won't play forever and I don't think they view Sorgi as a long-term answer. So why not stash a rookie?
I know many folks think Boone ends up on the 53-man roster, but it's still too early to make a solid conclusion. It'll be interesting to see how he and Barry Sims perform the next two weekends. Whether you think Sims is crap or not, the "veteran presence" can be alluring.
The rest of the candidates seem like reasonable options. I know some folks are intrigued by Lambert and Mitchell and they seem to be some decent PS options. Anybody think there are obvious omissions?
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My practice squad
I think that Finley, Miller, and Mitchell are close to locks.
I think that if Jay Moore doesn’t make the 53 then he’ll be on as well.
I agree with Fooch, I’m nervous about Davis not being placed on the 53 so for now I’m gonna keep him there.
I’m sad to say that I don’t see Boone beating Sims out just yet (maybe mid-season) and if that’s the case then I think he’s a lock as well, though I also wouldn’t be surprised if he was claimed off waivers like de la Puente from last year. Maybe that experience alone would be enough to elevate him. I think the niners will take two OLs just because of numbers, and Spanos seems as good as any as the second unless Joe Toledo still retains eligibility.
I highly doubt Zeig doesn’t make the 53 after this preseason but then there was always Clayton… My guess would be he makes it initially and maybe gets demoted when Crabtree signs.
I think Briggs is likely though the niners might be higher on Mark Washington.
Dobson Collins might also be a possibility, I gather that he’s an intriguing but very raw prospect. For the last spot I’d like to see Egboh or Word-Daniels claim it though I’m not optimistic about the latter’s chances.
by foosball4949 on Aug 20, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm
not sure that Word-Daniels makes it past the first cut. He was making Chris Simms look like John Elway.
by save10 on Aug 20, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This list seems to be a bit of an eyebrow-raiser to me.
But that may just be a testament to my lack of knowledge and experience with NFL roster management. It seems to me that we’re exceptionally thin on OLBs, so it’s hard to imagine Jay Moore (or Dayril Briggs, I guess) not making the active roster. On the other hand, we’ll be getting Brandon Jones back early-to-mid-season, and I expect Crabtree will be under contract by week 1 and the position already seems crowded, so I have a hard time finding reason for keeping another WR on board on the practice squad (ESPECIALLY if you keep a 4th tight end).
We’ve got need for game-ready practice squad players on the defensive line and at corner – and the talent there seems fairly promising considering the youth and the slim price tag – so I see those names sticking around. O-Line is another place where you can never have too much depth, so some practice squad spots will likely be reserved for the more versatile players we have there. I would like to say that Alex Boone is a lock to make the active roster, but the reality is that he’d be behind Staley, Sims, Marvel Smith and Adam Snyder on the depth chart – and I don’t know how capable or willing he is to play on the interior line. Much to the dismay of many fans, I think he’s likely bound for the practice squad.
My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.
by shlecko on Aug 20, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the 49ers have always kept...
… at least two DBs and two OL’s on the practice squad. It also seems that they’ve gone OUTSIDE of their training camp roster for at least two of the spots every year.
by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
clarification
What do you mean by the comment:
It also seems that they’ve gone OUTSIDE of their training camp roster for at least two of the spots every year.
Do you mean a late signing?
by Fooch on Aug 20, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not Nate!
We will lose him if he is on the PS
by danknerd49 on Aug 20, 2009 2:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about this but
a PS player doesn’t have to sign an offer sheet from another team if he wants to stay a niner. The option is up to him. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 20, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he does sign
He has to go on the 53 player roster for the entire season.. he cann’t be place on their PS. Again, if I am incorrect, please inform me of my error.
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 20, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are...
… correct on both counts, I believe.
by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would he want to though
If he could go on some other team’s 53 man roster?
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think LV...
… is getting at what I was getting at below: Davis would give the 49ers a chance to add him to their 53-man before going to sign the offer sheet elsewhere. I think that’s what happened with Clayton late last season.
by sfgfan on Aug 21, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis
I think if the 49ers place him on the practice squad and gets an inquiry from another team, Davis would give the 49ers an opportunity to move him to the 53-man. I believe this because I don’t think Davis would really like to start all over with a new scheme and/or playbook with another team if the 49ers would actually love to keep him on board. The 49ers QB situation is ideal for any youngster who needs a year or so to develop right now, and I’m pretty sure Davis and/or his agent see that.
by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Again on Nate Davis
The guy held a pre-draft workout and only the Colt’s scout bothered to show up. Outside the Colts and 49ers no team had a spec of interest in Nate Davis. Would the Colts pick him up offer waivers, probably not but not impossible. The Colts would essentially have to relegate themselves to 52 man roster. Unless Bill Polian believes Nate Davis is the heir QB after Peyton Manning you have wonder why in the world he would make that sacrifice.
by bignerd on Aug 20, 2009 3:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Considering that the Colts
Considering that the Colts have traditionally carried only one backup quarterback on their roster I can’t see them going for such a raw prospect as Davis.
It may be the Niners’ desire to hide him, but Davis didn’t throw one pass in the first game. If there was so little interest in him going into the draft it may be that he’ll be able to hide out on the practice squad.
Now that Clayton’s gone I need either Davis or Miller to root for.
Also, does everyone expect Sheets to be on the 53-man roster?
by Bob On The Coast on Aug 21, 2009 7:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sheets
I think it’s possible that Sheets makes the roster. With Clayton down and out for the count, the only pure runner behind Gore is Coffee, so I think the 49ers would like to keep around another one, especially one who has the potential to be very versatile like Sheets.
by sfgfan on Aug 21, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts...
have a rookie, Curtis Painter from Purdue. I don’t see why they would try for Davis. Painter played well last night against the eagles.
by shulkdog on Aug 21, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two interesting things
The thing about Maiocco’s list that jumped out to me was that Zeigler and Kory sheets were not listed on the PS. I’m assuming the reason is that he has them on the 53-man roster. As for Nate Davis, I hope the Niners have the balls to go the route the Jaguars went with Leftwich and cut Alex Smith, promote Huard to the backup and keep Nate Davis on the 53.
I want winners!!
by loudiamond on Aug 20, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
cut alex?
They would never do that. Shaun Hill is already 29, and not seen as the long term answer. I think some inside the organization still hold hope that Smith will fulfill his potential. Anyways, if something were to happen to Shaun Hill, I, personally, would rather have Alex Smith, then Damon Huard playing… but that’s just me…
by crevis1987 on Aug 20, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Highly unlikely
Not as long as McC is GM.That’s his boy ! Huard ? He certainly looked good against the Broncos. Tough call.
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 20, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Way We Cut Alex....At least until after the season...
The important thing for now is to put Nate Davis in during some of the preseason games. Actually let him throw the ball this time. Of course he will be uncomfortable for a while, and thus will make mistakes. However, he would seem to be key to the QB competition. If he can make some of his skills translate into games (great accuracy, very strong arm), I think the Niners would keep him around, even over Huard or Smith.
by Riding The F Train on Aug 20, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zeigler...
… makes the roster because of the absence of Crabtree and Jones for at least the first month of the regular season. Battle and Zeigler will be the first WRs to go when the 49ers need the roster spot for Crabtree.
by sfgfan on Aug 20, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Thomas...
…First of all is a safety, and second he seems to be the Niners’ safety of the future. I have heard very, very, positive things about him. Seems like a Vernon Davis type. Huge potential, he just needs to let things slow down. I noticed in the Denver game that he was literally flying around the field. Sure, he made some dumb mistakes, but those are just rookie errors, they can be fixed. The key thing to notice is how much he was around the ball. He seems to have great instincts and good speed to the ball. Personally I think he can every bit as good as Dashon Goldson if not better.
by Riding The F Train on Aug 20, 2009 4:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I got a question
We’re talking about the final 53 roster. But I like to know when it come to 73/75 cuts, who goes ?
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 20, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nate/Alex
Perhaps Nate Davis won’t be allowed to play much so as to prevent an objective review of Smith creeping in. The misguided first round pick continues to be a sad wrecking ball of the team’s hopes. Apart from this strange obstancy or blindness, Singletary appears largely allowed to focus on quality. The team may be able to survive the dysfunction and have a successful season. They should at least be mediocre-good. Reggie Smith’s emergence is wonderful in this regard of players who are emerging with exuberance and talent.
by Vertigo on Aug 20, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
One thing I don't understand
Why does anybody want to keep Damon Huard on the roster? What positives does he bring to the table?
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 7:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Veteran experience, his arm is still reasonably fresh, he has good accuracy and decision making skills. In other words, solid back up who can get things done if necessary. We don’t have that in either Davis or Smith. Hill of course does, but if he goes down nothing is guaranteed without a guy like Huard.
by Riding The F Train on Aug 20, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For his career he has 33 TD's, 26 INT's, and 20 fumbles
He is 36 years old and was last effective 3 years ago (when he had a very lucky 0.4% INT rate). His arm is “fresh” because he’s not good enough to play. If Huard plays we are “guaranteed” poor production, but I don’t see what else we get.
He’s not even the backup, he’s a 3rd stringer. What are the odds that both Hill and Smith get hurt and Huard actually plays? Furthermore, even if he does what are the odds that keeping him is the difference in the Niners making the playoffs? And we’re going to risk losing a possible future starter like Nate Davis for this veteran castoff?
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked fine against Denver
I mean, yeah he was facing the guys from the cheap seats, but his throws were on target and he didn’t throw any interceptions. The thing we have to remember is, you pretty much have to throw a player’s past out the door as soon as he comes to the Niners. This is simply because this organization is going to bring out the best in players. We are already seeing it in Shaun Hill, Adam Snyder, Frank Gore, Parys Haralson, Josh Morgan, Ziegler, Michael Spurlock, etc.
by Riding The F Train on Aug 20, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not...
…cut Huard so we’re able to hold onto Davis? And if, for some reason, we get into a situation where we’ll need a 3rd guy, we pick Huard back up. I understand that he may no longer be available if we let him go (not sure where he’d go though) but it doesn’t seem logical to lose a young potential starter to hang on to an old “veteran presence” 3rd-stringer.
Never use a big word where a diminutive alternative would suffice.
by YoungWillis on Aug 20, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
It makes no sense at all. If we need another veteran backup at some point we can always sign somebody.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are these veteran, backup QB free agents you speak of?
by bignerd on Aug 20, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not following you at all
None of those other guys are over-the-hill veteran journeyman who all the sudden played better upon coming to the Niners. Of course you have to consider a player’s past when you evaluate him. Huard isn’t all the sudden going to be a good QB because of one good preseason game against 3rd stringers, we have 10 years of football to show he’s not good. And what that has to do with any of the other guys you mentioned I don’t know.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m starting to think you are real ageist against QB’s. Why keep Huard? It’s really not that complicated.
1. Hill and Smith are injury prone.
2. The team has plans for making the playoffs.
3. Nate Davis isn’t anywhere near ready to step in an emergency role.
4. You really think Huard will still be available if he doesn’t make the 53 man roster? He probably wouldn’t clear waivers and with no available QBs he’d be the 1st to be signed as soon as some teams QB get injured.
In short, you keep Huard because he still gives the team a chance to win on Sunday if Hill and Smith are injured. If you are 7-9 football hoping to jump to 9-7 you can’t give games away starting Nate Davis.
by bignerd on Aug 20, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if Huard is not available
Someone of his skill set will be. I’m not “against” any players, but I am against filler veterans staying in place of young rookies with upside when the team is not expected to be title contenders.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea
Like Simm vs. Boone ? Raiders didn’t want him and we needed bodies to fill the Oline spot. You put Boone on the PS list and he’ll be gone. There was a Lineman that went the list and one team grab him last year, forgot his name but he had potential. So between Huard and Davis, the choice to keep would be Davis, unless he came down with a injury ?
by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 21, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skill set
Someone else with Huard’s skill set may be available, but Huard has been working with the 49ers, and more importantly, Jimmy Raye all offseason. Signing a random QB from FA means that QB has to get acclimated to your system before he can do much else.
I can understand people pushing for Huard to stay on the roster. I really don’t care as long as Davis doesn’t get claimed (which is looking less likely than it did a few weeks ago).
by sfgfan on Aug 21, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looked good in that one preseason game
GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, yeah
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Aug 21, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether you think Sims is crap or not, the “veteran presence” can be alluring.
Ugh. I don’t see why.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 20, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
Barry Sims is a tackling dummy. He’s a sled. The Guy cant move his feet. He gets beat every passing play, and QB’s must fear for their lives when Simms is in the game. He cant do the job period. Why he has hung around so long with the Niners is a mystery. I know they do not have very many options, but I’d like to see the Niners keep Boone and hope he improves over Simms, who we have all seen fail miserably again and again. Time to move on and waive Simms. On a young team building for the future, Boone is a possible piece that can be brought along slowly and learn the position as a third stringer and possibly get into games where we are ahead in garbage time to get some experience. If not, I’d like to see Boone get on the pratice squad. He has potential that he has not reached. Simms has nothing. No potential, no game, and no ability. Time to move ON!
Another year, another chance to hope for the team !!
by FaStRmAn on Aug 20, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sims versus Boone
I see Sims going over the side of the ship and Boone getting one of the final roster slots despite the “veteran presence” (aka track record). Why? Coach Singletary of course, who is willing to go with younger plays who bust their tails in practice, and a bit of logic. We know what Sims brings—-some sacks because he is too slow, too many offsides penalties, and no future upside (he is an aging veteran). With Boone we get upside, an already effective run blocker (what you want from a right tackle) despite his starting very late by missing OTAs while waiting for his class to graduate, and hopefully an OK pass blocker as he improves his technique (he was a left tackle at Ohio State). We also have depth at both left and right tackle if Marvel Smith can play, so we won’t need Sims or Boone on day 1 except as a backup. If Snyder or Staley can’t play, and Smith is physically unable to get the job done, we have problems no matter who plays. I see Smith getting the backup job if healthy enough in 2.5 weeks and getting cut if he isn’t, with Boone being kept on the 53 man roster and Sims getting cut if Smith is kept.
by seafood lover on Aug 20, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What about Lambert??
I’d say I’d rather have him than Hudson at 5th corner and possibly 4th. His speed could be helpful later on this season. If he hits the PS he will be picked up for the league minimum. I was impressed in the Broncos game and majority of the DB’s that shared the field with him stunk it up.
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Is this what it's all about Manny?
by rlott#42 on Aug 21, 2009 12:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to see him in more than one preseason game
To make that judgement.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 21, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so for a 5th corner
Spencer definitely can’t keep up with him speed wise, we haven’t had a corner that fast since Deion
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by rlott#42 on Aug 21, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hudson...
… while it’s taken him a long time to get rolling, has supposedly been pretty solid this offseason. Not to say I prefer him over Lambert, but I wouldn’t mind seeing more action from both the next three games. The decision between the two (and other DBs) will probably last until the final cuts.
by sfgfan on Aug 21, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fooch Im confused....
again you forgot Curtis Taylor!? He’s not on your 53 man roster and is now on your first 5 off. Do you not believe he will be on the practice squad if he doesnt make the team?
And as far as Davis and Boone go, I dont think you can include them on both your 53 man roster(unless it’s changed) and the PS. Other than your 53 man roster, who would be your eight assuming no one gets claimed by other teams?
by 49er4life on Aug 21, 2009 8:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Taylor
That’s not my practice squad projection. It’s from the Maiocco link. In the 53-man roster projection I responded to your comment about Taylor and said I’d probably have Taylor over Sims in the first 5 out. Of course that means, he probably should be on the PS projection if I was creating my own. Should’ve made that comment in this post.
by Fooch on Aug 21, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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