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San Francisco 49ers 21 - Oakland Raiders 20: 49ers draft picks rule, Raiders rush defense drools

I think it’s safe to say the Oakland Raiders did not improve on their 27th ranked rush defense.  Even though they led almost the entire game, the Raiders rush defense was a total embarrassment today.  Glen Coffee had a bit of a coming out performance tonight while the rest of the running backs ran all over the Raiders.  We’ll get to that performance, but let’s get to what we wanted to really find out today….

QB
I mentioned it in the comments and I’ll mention it again, I think tonight was a push in the battle of Shaun Hill versus Alex Smith.  Alex Smith probably was a bit better given that his receivers dropped some of his passes, but it wasn’t enough to reclaim the position.  In reality, neither QB came close to impressing anybody.  That means the 49ers will likely have to alternate quarterbacks with the #1 offense again at Dallas.  Hill will retain the lead in the QB competition, but it’d be nice to see him just slam the door shut next week at Dallas.  I’m not holding my breath, but let’s hope for it.

The real story at quarterback was Nate Davis.  After getting very little playing time last week, he got to play the entire second half.  While he was not spectacular, he showed a lot of the skills that had him projected in the early rounds at the beginning of last season.  A problem Alex Smith has had is that he rolls out and then can’t get enough zip on the ball to get it to his receivers.  Davis does not have that problem.  Rather, he has a rifle and several times was able to roll out and hit his man.  He certainly has to work on his accuracy and decision-making, but as a potential long-term QB he took a very, very solid first step today.

Offensive Line
I started writing this in the fourth quarter just as Kory Sheets ran in his touchdown.  I realize the Raiders rushing defense was awful today.  I’m willing to take the results with a grain of salt.  But, you know what?  The 49ers offensive line was making some serious holes.  We’ll see how it carries over in the coming weeks, but I thought the offensive line showed some solid improvement from last week.  The Raiders did manage a sack, but for the most part I felt like the 49ers quarterbacks had enough time to make their reads.  As for the running backs coming in behind the line?

Star-divide

Running Backs
Just an all-star performance today from Coffee, Robinson and Sheets.  It’s only the preseason, and it was the Raiders defense, but watching a team dominate in the running game can be just as much fun to watch as a great passing performance (at least in my opinion).  When you’re averaging ___ yards a carry, things are going well for you.  For now I’m curious how much more will see of Gore next week at Dallas.  Of course, it’s always nice to be able to see your backups taking care of business.  The 49ers have wanted to find somebody who can lessen the load on Gore and today they certainly got an inkling about that.  Now we’ll see if Coffee and company can carry this over at Big D.

Pass/Rush Defense
Pass rush? Yea….not so much again.  The team got pressure at times, but that seemed to happen more in the second half with the backups.  The first string defense was not all that stellar in their attempts to get at Russell and Garcia.  It certainly wasn’t abysmal, but they’re going to need to show some improvement if the defense wants to take the next step as a unit.  The pass defense as a whole was really not all that spectacular in the first half with Roman getting burned in a zone defense (I refuse to blame Clements on that one), and Clements having to resort to pass interference on another play.

At the same time, the defense was quite impressive against the run.  The so-called 3-headed rushing attack of Oakland was really nowhere to be seen.  The 49ers athleticism on defense could definitely be seen there.  Now it’s just a matter of getting more of that athleticism in the pass rush.

2009 Draft Class
Michael who?  The 49ers 2009 draft class set off some serious fireworks today.  Coffee had a monster day and Nate Davis was quite solid in his first real passing opportunity.  On defense, Scott McKillop showed why the team is looking at him as the TED linebacker of the future next to Patrick Willis.  He had the fumble recovery that was overturned, he had an interception, and he led the team in tackles.  Now I realize it’s only preseason and we’ll see plenty of "DOH!" moments from these youngsters, but every positive step is a good thing.

The best aspect of the preseason is getting to see what your young players can do.  Seeing as many of them won’t see significant playing time in the regular season, they know they’re playing for anything they can get.  Coffee will see some serious playing time, but McKillop will spend a lot of time on special teams, and Nate Davis is still battling to stay off the practice squad (maybe this performance keeps the 49ers from waiving him to the PS).

Next Week
The 49ers head to Dallas, most likely without a week 1 starter determined.  The 49ers have played two teams that could be pretty bad this year, so we'll see what a dose of the Cowboys, followed by the Chargers, can do for assessing this team.  I think the team showed improvement this week, but of course have a lot of areas for improvement.  We'll be back with plenty more in the coming days on the just completed game and next week's showdown at Big D.  Maybe Andy Lee can knock down that big monstrosity of a scoreboard!

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Don't know what to think after this game...

But “meh” is the first thing that comes to mind. That, and the Raiders rush defense is still horrid.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Aug 22, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A lot of teams played “meh” games against the Raiders last year. The good news is it looks like we would have beat them down running the ball in a real game . . . that’s the good news.

by bignerd on Aug 22, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know

We can run the ball even when we’re trailing….even if it’s only against the Raiders.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Raye's play calling

Anybody care to comment on that?

I know it’s just the pre-season but you still have to call good plays.
Raye was very predictable in the first half but he mixed it up pretty well in the 4th quarter.

BTW: It’s pretty hard to asses the QBs when the WRs are letting passes go through their hands (Alex Smith did make an awesome block and a funny tackle though)

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think everyone can assess the QB's are Meh..

Except for Davis against the scrubs. Davis looks more polished than either Hill or Smith.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Aug 22, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

Played against 2nd and 3rd string defenses.

I can say this however:
Shaun Hill was un-impressive, on one play he had Arnaz Battle wide open about 20 yds down the field but instead he went for a shorter completion that wasn’t enough for the 1st down.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill does that all the time.

Hence the completion percentage.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 22, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

Hill loves the checkdown option and is very quick to go there.

by sfgfan on Aug 24, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to see Davis,

As QB’s go, I agree “meh” or perhaps “blah” is more appropriate, Although the though crossed my mind that perhaps from an offensive “assessment” point of view this game was not about the passing game but was about a review of the running game, we have so much talent at the RB/FB position that the coaches need to get a look who is who in the pecking order. Remember "this will be a running team " from Sing.

by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it looked like he had more qb smarts too

when he tried to read the defense, it looked like he sw more than anyone else

by dalien82 on Aug 23, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

gotta take into account

that alex smith block and tackle, saved a td even if he did turn it over, block was straight savage- i need someone to hit me w/a youtube of that

by larryallenseawolf on Aug 22, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fun game to watch

The player morale is through the roof. It is great to their fan. Huge pass rushing problems. Looking forward to getting past the receiver cuts so we can focus on what we really have.

by Vertigo on Aug 22, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

by my calculations

the niners averaged 5.9 yards a carry

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Aug 22, 2009 8:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

chikmagnet

For better or worse, I don’t think you can really make a judgement on Raye’s playcalling. Lots of it is to see how certain players do in certain situations. And any razzle dazzle is kept under wraps. Vanilla is the key for August.

Boy, Michael Robinson really showed me a lot tonight. And having Norris as a true fullback really helped. He blew away a few linebackers out there.

Smith did nothing to win the job. In his favor, there were drops by the receivers. To his detriment, that interception was high over the middle, so when the receiver didn’t haul it in it was up in the air for the Raiders’ secondary to pluck.

by Bob On The Coast on Aug 22, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

but I was drinking in the fourth quarter.

by Bob On The Coast on Aug 22, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 of the Raiders top 4 rushers for the day were quarterbacks:

Charlie Frye, 16 yards
Michael Bush, 15
Bruce Gradkowski, 11
Jeff Garcia, 9

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Aug 22, 2009 8:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What does that say about the Cowboys?

They got run over by the Raidaz.

And they looked terrible against Tenn.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

its says they suck

and i agree.

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Aug 22, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

at least

they’ll probably play their starters for a while, since it’ll be week 3.

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Aug 22, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want to see how our offesive line does against that monstrous D-line

But our Defense might look better than it actually is since the Cowboys love false start penalties.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, did anybody catch the comment about the new stadium in D.

Seems that after $1.6 billion dallars they mad the celine to low, a punt hit the new "big"screen and fell down like a dead bird on the field. Crap, wait until Andy Lee gets there.

by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 22, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha

And I watched the broadcast of their game last night. Troy Aikman was going on and on how Jerry Jones has spent a decade planning every minute detail so his massive stadium could be perfect.

I didn’t see if Dallas put a hole in the new roof so God can watch his team (err, not pay for air conditioning).

by bignerd on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a weird hole

But it’s not really a hole.
It just looks weird….

About the Big screen: It’s friggin annoying, punters can’t get any hang time.
The NFL should force them to elevate the big screen (it’s suspended on wires so it shouldn’t be so hard to move it up a few yards)

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah there was a report that says it will cost 2 million to fix.

Jerry is pissed, and this is probably the only time I’d agree with him. The NFL approved the design now it has to be fixed to funny.

by Mullester on Aug 22, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not a Raider fan but

Jerry J. should be glad that Ray Guy is retired, He hit the rafters in the old stadium. Just imagine what could do to the “big screen”..

by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 23, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raiders announcers

I don’t know if any of you guys had to listen to those jerks.

I had to mute the game.

They were constantly bashing the 49ers, they continually glorified J.R., and they had to glorify Al Davis every other sentence.
They referred to Kentwan Balmer as the No. 1 pick more than 2 times!
And they said Dashon Goldson was a rookie.

Plus their sideline guys couldn’t even talk right….

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 8:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That is why they are on the radaz channel.

They get paid to "whop on the opposition and play up the raiders. It is the only way they can keep an audiance if they make their guys look like and sound like " a REAL TEAM"

by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 22, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was getting tired of hearing them call Goldson

Golden. also they really did kiss Al Davis’ ass pretty much he whole time.

and in his 4th season, VD broke through the wall, Niners fan rejoiced and all was well in the kingdom. Singletary 3:42

by 49erLou on Aug 22, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I lol'd

When McFadden couldn’t understand what the sideline reporter was asking him.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ill have to check it out, i was at the game..by the way

Did they show the 9er fan who beat up the raider fan and then ran on the field when the special teams were out?

by dalien82 on Aug 23, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They mentioned that there was a guy on the field, but didn’t show him or give any history.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 23, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Frist thought that came to my mind was, Are they on Als’ payroll ? Either they’re brain wash or just utter idiots !

by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 23, 2009 5:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting game to chew on

Our QB’s looked awful. Alex showed more bite in his game than Hill.

One thing to note is the Raiders have an awful run defense but are stifling on pass defense if you don’t attack their safeties. The Raiders and Broncos are both similar as in awful run defense, suspect pass rush with an elite CB anchoring the pass defense. The

Cowboys are a complete contrast, good rush defense, good pass rush, horrible secondary. The Cowboys and their video game offense is exactly the kind of team that has given the 49ers fits over the last 4 years. They need to show they can impose their style of play on a finesse, passing team.

by bignerd on Aug 22, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm worried about the QB situation

I don’t think there have been enough reps for Hill. He stunk it up today, but tell me why he was 2/2 in the first game and only played one series, seems like they want Smith to be the starter, and he hasn’t earned it. I hope this doesn’t come back and bite us in the butt. Starting QB’s are already getting time with their first team offense. I hope we play our projected, or for the time being, 53 man roster for a half to build some continuity going in, our first two games are HUUUUUUUUGGEEEE!!!

Optimist Prime, and your favorite adjitator
Is this what it's all about Manny?

by rlott#42 on Aug 22, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think the decision will come this week as to who "is in the lead"

They know that they need to get on with it and start naming some starters. The 1st unit (especially on offense) will need some time to work together before the season starts. If they wait until the Charger game to do that, it may be a bit late to develop cohesiveness.

by WC-Ninerhead on Aug 22, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's one way to look at it

Of course you could also say that they are building chemistry with all of the back-ups so that IF a starter goes down, there shouldn’t be too many problems with the back-ups and starters being on the same page.

by chikmagnet_565 on Aug 22, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm worried 2

I am starting to think Crabtree wasn’t a steal afterall and that pick could’ve been used in a better way.

I also so Everette Brown go nuts in the Carolina-Miami game-you know the pass rusher the Niners needed but traded away that 2nd round pick??

I am very worried about the safety, QB and pass rushing situations. However it appears as the O line is coming around and Coffee is looking like a 3rd round steal as is that kid from Pittsburgh.

Speaking of Balmer-does anyone have any news on if this guy? Is progressing and if/when he will start making 1st round impact???

by Italia1970 on Aug 23, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Balmer is in the rotation at DE. It’s not a role in the defense that will produce a lot of stats. His job is to stand up blockers and push the pocket forward in pass rush situations. Based on accounts he’s been adequate and the coaches likes his work ethic.

by bignerd on Aug 23, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was pretty unimpressed by both Smith and Hill, though I thought Smith looked a lot better than last week, for whatever that’s worth (practically nothing). Hill’s pass to Morgan that he completed was horrible and eerily reminiscent of Smith’s pass to Morgan last week, in that both of them were bad decisions that easily could have been interceptions.

It was fun to run over the Raiders though. That was neat.

GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.

by groug on Aug 22, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

That's because the Raiders have the worst front 7 in the NFL.

Now imagine if a team successfully stacks the box and forces the team to pass.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 22, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no that would be the 32nd worst run d

Optimist Prime, and your favorite adjitator
Is this what it's all about Manny?

by rlott#42 on Aug 22, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In terms of sheer volume, they weren't the worst.

But there are very few teams in the NFL who can’t run on the Raiders at will.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 23, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's right.

not all teams have terrible running games like Seattle.

I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.

by these3words on Aug 23, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Surprise Julius Jones ran for 130 yards against the 49ers in week 2.

Surprise Patrick Willis eating Jones’ dust on his TD.

But even Seattle’s run game could look good against Oakland. Even Staley looked good run-blocking, and that’s probably his biggest liability as a tackle.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ Raji

ugh, I was watching some ESPN highlights and they showed footage of Raji’s first playing time and he was manhandling the Bills opposing O-Linemen. I don’t know what string they were, but the guy looked impressive! The packers always seem to be grabbing players we should have picked…

by jviet on Aug 22, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Since Raji was picked before the 49ers got a pick I don't see how they should have picked him?

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 23, 2009 1:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he’s just saying it’s like the A.J. Hawk thing when we drafted Davis, they’re just one pick in front of us and always take the guy we want

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by theghostofjasonellison on Aug 23, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he’s sure been better then our OLBs

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by theghostofjasonellison on Aug 23, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm

Not according to FO, they hate AJ Hawk.

by bignerd on Aug 23, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what those idiots in Green Bay get for drafting a non-rush OLB in the top 5.

I hate Seattle drafting Aaron Curry for the same reason but at least he has some ridiculous physical tools.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, do you have a link?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'd be more...

… of a Willis-type player in the 3-4, maybe even lining up where Spikes line up. Basically, would you rather have Willis or Hawk manning the middle?

by sfgfan on Aug 24, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

happy to see N. Davis show up and show some solid skill

i think ur right about smith and not being able deliver a sharp and accurate throw when he gets flushed out of the pocket, which happens alot. Morgan should have caught that ball but still, Starter Worthy Alex Smith didnt show up.

Hill looked like he was improvising but wasnt getting help from pass protection or open guys. and whats up with the mean side arm. chill out hill

nate davis looked more comfortable finding his target standing tall and on the run. Still, it was Raiders backups.

NINERS 4 LIFE

by LADubbz45 on Aug 23, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nate Davis

I was watching some old highlites of him on youtube…..i really hope this is what we are looking at as the future….guy can throw a solid spiral 75 yards…..on the run 20 yard bullets cross field opposite way ….start hill but get rid of smith and keep davis as the future.

by Sammallory on Aug 23, 2009 1:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I see it as this:

Hill, Smith, Davis.

I wouldn’t doubt that the Niners considered carefully about who to call into camp as their third-string QB. Huard has skills but his value in the open market is zilch. That means they could bring him into camp and if Davis was a fail they could hold onto him, and if Davis looked good they could cut him and still have a reasonable shot at signing him during the season if their starter got a serious injury. He’d come in with a knowledge of the offense.

It’s funny all the talk about Davis having a learning disability because Smith has a learning disability too. He’ll get better the longer he is in an offense, but it takes him longer. I’m not sold that Alex has what it takes to be a good NFL quarterback, but for this year he’s fine as a backup.

Since Raye’s offense is yet another new offense for the Niners all the quarterbacks should be more comfortable as the season progresses. I expect Hill to be better in it after September than he is now. Likewise, Smith and Davis.

Next year there will be a big crop of good QBs coming out of college. If Hill shines or if one of the other two shows that they will be the next starter, then the Niners can use those picks to bulk up their two lines. If not then the Niners will be drafting a QB of the future.

No need to panic, folks. No real bullets until September.

by Bob On The Coast on Aug 23, 2009 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Guys!

Am I just having a bit of a brain fart, or did they switch Manny Lawson’s side? I thought he was a LOLB but he’s been playing at ROLB this preseason.

by Kaizre on Aug 23, 2009 2:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The

QBs…meh.

I’m digging Reggie Smith’s eventual future at safety. And Scott McKillop is gonna be a starter when Takeo Spikes decides to hang up…..the spikes. Same thing with Brit Miller, he could be taking over for Moran Norris in a year.

by save10 on Aug 23, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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