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Marvel Smith officially retires: The bright side of life

It's official.  Marvel Smith has announced his retirement  The 49ers announced it just now and Coach Mike Singletary had this to say:

"I would like to thank Marvel for his service to the 49ers organization over the last several months," said head coach Mike Singletary. "Marvel and I have spoken, and I know that this was not a decision he took lightly. We appreciate that he came to us when he did with this decision, and wish him well in the next chapter of his life."

Personally I feel bad for the guy.  He's spent his life as a football player and he has reached a point where his body just won't let him do this anymore.  It's a shame for it to happen to anybody, but particularly a young guy (he only just turned 31).

When Pro Football Talk's report that Marvel Smith was going to retire went down yesterday, reaction was certainly swift and mostly negative.  Obviously given the circumstances it's understandable for people to be upset, but as many of you should expect, I'd like to look at the positives related to this...or at least why things could be worse.  After the jump I've got my thoughts, but I thought I'd lead you past the jump with this classic scene from Monty Python's Life of Brian.

Star-divide

As the day went on I think people started to give the positives a little more consideration, but I thought I'd spell out some of the things I see with this impending retirement (since we have to hear from Marvel Smith).

First off, not a positive, but just a point to be made: Barrows confirmed the 49ers are NOT interested in free agent Levi Jones.

So, first the timing of the decision.  When the 49ers and Smith began discussions and he eventually signed, much of the talk centered around his back injury.  While it was a concern in my mind, I also was hoping he had moved past it.  Obviously that's not the case.  However, I'm not going to lay blame on him.  A few mentioned it but I'd certainly rather hear this news now than after the last preseason game, or even worse, a week into the season after the 49ers have possibly waived and lost Alex Boone.

Of course, it would have also been nice to know this back in March before the draft and before other players were snatched up in free agency.  It's easy to be critical of 49ers management for rolling the dice on a guy with a bad back and they certainly deserve criticism for that.  At the same time, I think Smith had high upside if he had been able to remain healthy.  Sometimes you roll the dice and crap out.  That's just life.  If they had been looking at a guy who would be the starting left tackle I think I would have been more upset about all this.

Then there's the fact that Adam Snyder seems to have won the job. Some folks don't think Snyder is any good.  I've decided to reserve judgment given that he's never had a legit opportunity to stick at one position, having moved back and forth from tackle to guard throughout his career.  I'm open to giving him a little bit of time at the position before saying he's useless.  Of course, he's also hurt at this point and out for tonight's game.  The upside to that?  We get to see more of Barry Sims and Alex Boone.  Ok, maybe more Barry Sims is not "upside."  However, if Smith makes this retirement official, and barring some late free agent addition or trade, Boone and Sims would seem to both be locks to make the 53-man roster.

I have had Boone teetering on the bubble in all of my 53-man roster projections and now he's certainly moved into safer territory.  You never like to see it happen because of injury, but at this point we'll take it any way we can get it.  Alex Boone may not be ready to start in the NFL, but he's clearly better than an undrafted free agent.  As long as he can keep on the ole straight and narrow, he could have himself a solid NFL career.

These next two games, and tonight in particular, will be very interesting to watch.  Either Sims or Boone will get the start at right tackle.  The question then is who comes in where behind the RT starter, and then behind Joe Staley at left tackle.  The only other backups at this point are Jacob Bender and Joe Toledo.  Both seem to get time at both tackle and guard.  I don't think either is likely to make the roster, but they've certainly been given a better shot if they can put something together these next two games.  Bender also has some time on the 53-man roster after being signed from the Patriots practice squad last season.  His last regular season playing time was for the Jets in 2007.

The question is, do you just roll with Boone and Sims these last two playoff games to give them the most amount of time to show something?  Or do you try and grab a free agent who would seem to be in an awkward position trying to learn the playbook and impress the coaching staff in a very limited amount of time?  The poll is fairly simple but it'd be a waste of time to just throw a bunch of random free agent names on a poll.

Poll
How should the 49ers address the backup offensive tackle(s)
Stick with Sims and Boone
170 votes
Add a veteran free agent
230 votes

400 votes | Poll has closed

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I'm over being upset.

I was kind of negative at the first “Marvel Smith – Done” thread, but now I can see the whole picture not as a fan but as a human being. This guy is hurting, but he’s had a good career, so good luck to the guy, I just wish it would have been at a better time.

by Poundtherock on Aug 29, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

I can’t believe that half of the responders to the poll think Sims is any kind of option at all. My grandma blocks better ! Watch out Hill,here comes another pass rusher through the open gate known as Mr. Sims.

… I am just afraid that davis might be the only QB left on our roster by the time that open gate Sims is through.

Maybe we should put in Robinson at QB tonight to start the game ? How great would that be,have Robinson play QB and have a direct snap to Gore,and have robinson run over and knock out the Cowpies defensive end,who is rushing full speed towards him,instead of the other way around. Hey,I think I solved tonights problem,somebody call Jimmy Raye and tell him !!! After Robinson knocks out all the Dallas pass rushers,then put Hill in !!! LOL

by TOP_CAT on Aug 29, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I think if you changed the “Stick with Sims and Boone” option to just “Stick with Boone” it would get lots more votes.

by bignerd on Aug 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

TOP_CAT:

Is your grandma signed with anyone?

by Bob In Beaverton on Aug 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

There out there

There are plenty of veteran free agent tackles out there. Pick one up.

by Tony C on Aug 29, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions  

But are any of them better than Sims & Boone?

That’s the real question. It doesn’t do any good to bring in somebody worse than Sims – he’s bad enough all by himself (10.5 sacks allowed last year). Any OT waived by another team should have red flags draped all over them – OTs are difficult to find in the first place, so no team cuts the good ones unless there is a real problem.

The 9ers should have drafted Phil Loadholt in the second round this year instead of trading the pick. Or at least have gotten a better deal in the trade. I’m beginning to have serious doubts about McCloughan – we have needed an OT, a pass rusher, and a 2-gap NT for three straight years and he has failed miserably in meeting these needs. Maybe he’ll smarten up and trade that extra 1st for an OT before the trade deadline. Otherwise, we may be looking at another 55-sack season.

by MontanaPass on Aug 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN

I was watching ESPN and they mentioned that there were plenty of offensive tackles available including the former tackle for the packers for many years who had injury problems. I forget his name.

by Tony C on Aug 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you for saying it

McC, OL and the DL. At the time when I mentions what you just said, I was glad to in front of my computer otherwise it would have been a good old lynching. Maybe more people will now open their eyes and see things for what they are.

by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 29, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snyder

Are you operating under the assumption that Adam Snyder will either be hurt or be no good?

by David Fucillo on Aug 29, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, but we still don't know if he'll be good or not.

He wasn’t last year (9.5 sacks allowed). But even if he is much better, what happens if either Staley or Snyder is injured? Sims? He was worse than Snyder last year, so if he goes in, there is a significant decrease in ability/performance. There was a very good reason McCloughan brought in M. Smith and M. Oher was our top draft pick until Crabtree fell. Essentially, we are back in the same situation we were in at the end of last season, with the exception of Boone. Let’s hope Boone catches on really fast and can play RT well enough to step in if Snyder either fails or gets injured. Maybe we’ll get a good look tonight.

But here’s the good news, guys. The Cards defense was COMPLETELY destroyed last night by Aaron Rogers and the Pack – 38 points in the first half. DRC was burned badly three times, every unit had ill-timed penalties, none of Billy Davis’ blitz packages worked, and the DL was totally owned. The GB offense was scary good, but the breakdowns in the Cards defense were frequent. In the postgame interviews, everyone admitted they were very bad that night and had a long way to go. “Humbling” was a word frequently used. Beanie Wells did very well in his debut – played from mid-2nd to mid-3rd with two TDs, the first one against the GB starters on a very pretty run and open field juke of the safety. Don’t let this guy get into the secondary or he’s gone.

by MontanaPass on Aug 29, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, Sims had a bad year last year.. but so did every other OL the 49ers had.

I think a big part of that was a Martz’s system and no one could really fit in.
He has been playing pretty good so far in training camp and also in the first two preseason games.
Snyder has been playing real good at RT and both Sims and Boone should provide good backups.
MontanaPass, I also wish the Raiders or someone had taken Crabtree earlier as I liked Oher as the future RT for the 49ers. But it didn’t happen that way and we have to live with it.
As far as McC not being a good GM, many draft picks don’t make it. Rogers has had 3 years to watch and learn, and Smith didn’t have that luxury.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

But this is not a new situation.

The problems at OT have been going on for three years and McCloughan has failed to address it in a definitive way. There have been any number of excellent RT prospects in the last few drafts and he failed to get it done. He could have drafted Phil Loadholt (now starting for the Vikes) in the 2nd round this year but instead traded the pick in what was arguably a bad deal (compared to the Seahawks trade, it was a very bad deal).

As for Sims and Boone, I think what we saw last night is what we’ll get in the regular season. Neither player was good in pass pro, which was the major failing of the OL last year, especially at RT. I sure hope Snyder has stepped up his game enough to play well on the right side and he doesn’t get injured because Sims is still a Raiders reject with little utility.

I don’t have a problem with the Crabtree pick, I was just pointing out that there was a very good reason an OT was at the top of our draft list until Crabtree fell. And the only thing that’s changed is that Snyder might be better and Alex Boone is on the squad and might be able to play as a backup by mid-season.

by MontanaPass on Aug 30, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good call with the Life of Brian

I’m going to avoid watching the video, just so I don’t have that song stuck in my head for a week.

I’m still a bit disappointed that Marvel retired, but more so at the team than Marvel Smith himself. It’s too bad the guy can’t play anymore, and it’s too bad our RT depth took this hit.

by Andrew Davidson on Aug 29, 2009 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Ive done some researching...

And here are some notable free agent tackles out there. Mark Tauscher from Green bay, Jon Runyan from Philly, Levi Jones from the do i feel bad for beating em twice in the super bowl bengals, and hey look who else is available…..Kwayme Harris!

by Tony C on Aug 29, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Back when they sign him

   I was one of the few that knew Marvel wouldn’t make it. Not because he wasn’t a good player but I knew his back injury was worse than everyone thought. You never really recover from that and to continue take the pounding that could have damage him more for the rest of his life. I should now. Good for him in making the right decision!
 Now, Simm over Boone? Simm shouldn’t even make the team. He was just terrible last year and I don’t think We should waste a roster spot for him. Even if boone starts, he still be better and the sooner he learns the better. Time to start upgrading the OL.
  Some fans were ripping me for EVEN suggesting that we draft a OL within the first 2 rounds. Will, it seems to a good idea now. I’m pleased that Synder told Sing he wanted the RT position and it looks like it will work. Good !
  Now, we’re going to need a center soon and it would be wise to consider next year. Heitmann is going into his 10/11th year and that position has to be address for the near future. If Synder doesn’t pan out as well as we hope, that will need to be look at as well. I not saying we should draft in the 1st round , but certainly in the eary round for a top notch lineman or two. This is our weakest spot as well as the DL. I will defer on the DL until the season starts.

by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 29, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

In the 2010 draft, the 49ers need to draft an OG and RT/LT and they have the picks to do that.

Those two and a good OLB/Pass Rusher would make this team a definite playoff team.
I do also think that with Snyder at RT the 9ers can go into the playoffs.. Of course I am probably one of the few cup half full guys here.

The next two games with give Boone and Sims to show what they are made of. I am really hoping that Boone shows the promise many of us see in him. This year he could be a good backup and next year he could be the starter. I would still like both OG and RT to be drafted fairly high next year…

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Aug 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

So...

If Manny lawson gives us that pass rush we need and our line does there job this year we will make the playoffs?

by Tony C on Aug 29, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Two and a half games and still no sacks !

I no longer can defer ! And I’m watching it on NFL/game watch.Were lucky to be only 7 pts. behind. The stats look worse than the score.’

by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 29, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

sims

shouldnt even be considered he made the worst blocking mistakes last year and got dominated on a weekly basis. theres a reason even the lowly raiders didnt want him

by itsAteamGAME on Aug 29, 2009 12:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Do you realize

How many fans still think he’s worthy to be on this team?

by LASVEGASNINER on Aug 29, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone up for a Crabtree and Andre Smith swap?

by FANofDUBS on Aug 29, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Can't trade their rights now.

And Tubby would not be able to help for the season at this point.

I have a good feeling about Boone, and Snyder was going to come out of camp as the starter anyway. Long short, Smith was going to be the backup at best. Maybe by the second quarter I’ll feel different, but right now I’m not panicky.

by Bob In Beaverton on Aug 29, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah we'll see how the game looks in the beginning.

slightly off topic but the saints are demolishing the raiders… its pathetic 31-0 at half…. and the raiders cant do anything cept hold.

by pwarren85 on Aug 29, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snyder if fine

we have suffered through,Harris, Jennings, and Simms and Smith (kind of). It is time to see if the younger guys can play, were not asking them to start. If you think about it, how could it be worse than Harris? I think the young guys get a shot, and maybe they surprise the team with some good play

by on the 50 on Aug 29, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

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