Eli Manning: Talk about right place, right time
by Fooch on Aug 6, 2009 10:04 AM PDT
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I know this has nothing to do with the 49ers, but is anybody else blown away by Eli Manning's6 year $97.5 million contract extension? As our friends at The Big Lead pointed out (by far one of my favorite websites), Eli's average salary of $15.3 million now surpasses that of brother Peyton's ($14.17 million). I just want to make sure I'm not the only person having a little bit of sticker shock here.
In their initial post about the deal, The Big Lead made a great point:
Very wise of Manning’s agent to get this done before the season. Why? His starting WRs this year are Steve Smith (the one from USC, not the star in Carolina) and Domenik Hixon. Combined, they have 109 career catches and three TDs . . . Yes, they drafted Nicks and Barden, and 2nd-year pro Mario Manningham should be in the mix, but that is a motley crew with no experience.
Now I realize the backup options in New York are much worse (Carr, A. Woodson), but was that kind of dollar figure necessary? Even if Eli was a free agent after this coming season, do you really think it's much of a roll of the dice to see what he does with those kind of receivers in a tough division like the NFC East before working out a new deal? Consider me baffled.
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I am not surprised, money gets bigger every year.
by bignerd on Aug 6, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't be surprised
if he was actually one of the best QBs today. But he’s not that good. The Super Bowl MVP should have gone to either David Tyree or the defensive line. Other than that, he really doesn’t have much on his resume worthy of this kind of money.
by Sebaz49 on Aug 6, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't surprise me either...
… but I’m pretty sure New York is going to regret the deal about halfway into it.
by sfgfan on Aug 6, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
with sfgfan.
"The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing"
by Jeff_Fuller_49 on Aug 6, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peyton is the best regular season QB of all time
And yes, I mean that as an insult. He’s over-rated.
His playoff QB rating is just around 70. Twenty points lower than his regular season average. The year he won a super bowl their defense carried them through the playoffs. Peyton tried his best to throw the first game to the Chiefs but the chiefs offense outdid him.
Eli on the other hand has been very bad at times during the regular season, but was on fire during that playoff run to win the super bowl.
Personally, I’d rather have a guy that will be pedestrian durning the regular season and catch fire in the playoffs, but if these guys weren’t brothers there would be no reason to compare them, they’re totally differant players as far as abilities and style.
McNabb is in the same boat as far as I’m concerned. Who cares how good a QB is if he’s going to blow your last playoff game every year. McNabb seems to save his worst games for NFC Championships or his lone super bowl.
by Johnnysixnut on Aug 6, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Only thing...
… wrong with that thinking is that a pedestrian QB will often prevent a team from going to the playoffs without some stellar defense. It’s kind of hard to be “on fire in the playoffs” if you aren’t getting there.
by sfgfan on Aug 6, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Campbell has a higher career QB rating than Eli does.
Food for thought.
LOL GIANTS for making a marginally top 15 QB at best the highest paid quarterback in the league.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Aug 6, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eli runs hot and cold but Jason Cambell never heats up.
by bignerd on Aug 6, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they didn’t at least 10 other teams would have and that’s being conservative.
by JasonB on Aug 6, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So has anyone, anywhere, ever...
Gotten more out of 5 great weeks at work than Eli has? Played at an elite level the last 5 weeks of the season 2 years ago, been mid/upper otherwise, and is now the highest paid in the league. Until the next ‘franchise’ Qb comes up for negotiations, that is.
by Sloan on Aug 6, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not really surprising
Contract numbers get bigger every year, and the Giants don’t really have any option but to sign him. If Peyton signed an extension for this year it’d be worth a lot more than Eli’s, I mean his signing bonus alone was $34.5M in 2004! And Rivers (when he most likely signs an extension during the preseason) will almost assuredly beat Eli’s contract too.
It’s almost impossible to overpay a top QB, especially when Matthew Stafford gets $41M guaranteed without ever playing a down!
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 6, 2009 1:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But Eli definitely is not a top QB.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Aug 6, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say he's about the 12th or 13th best QB in the NFL
Not great, but above average. Considering he is square in his prime and has a ton of media hype, there’s just now way he was going to sign for less. In a few years his deal will probably look relatively inexpensive.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 6, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In a few years his deal will probably look relatively inexpensive
I doubt that. It’s all conjecture, but I just highly doubt it. The only way that comes to fruition is if the players win out big-time in the CBA negotiations.
by sfgfan on Aug 6, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well once 4-5 other QB's sign extensions higher than this one
And guys like Warner, McNabb, Brady, and Manning decline plus the continuous rookie deals climb (assuming they don’t implement a slot system) Manning’s contract won’t look so big.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 6, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Above average (and that's debatable if you ask me) is not worth being paid the highest paid player.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Aug 6, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He won't be
Just wait a couple weeks for Rivers to get his deal. If every QB was up for FA this winter it would look less wacky because guys like Peyton, Brees, and Brady would blow this deal out of the water.
by Brendan Scolari on Aug 7, 2009 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eli should give David Tyree 25% of his paycheck…
by daveofferson on Aug 6, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What a joke. Waaaaaaay too much money for a QB who is little better than average. The Giants will wish they saved that extra $30 million they over paid for free agency etc.
by TOP_CAT on Aug 6, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I crap bigger than Eli Manning
No man is worth this type of money; Patrick Willis is. But like I said, no man is worth this kind of money.
by Jerry Dice on Aug 6, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Good one
Of course, Patrick Willis really doesn’t need the money because he IS SO MONEY! Ok, that one was pretty bad.
by Fooch on Aug 6, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You're on the right track.
No linebacker is worth anywhere near the realm of this type of money, with the sole exception of perhaps DeMarcus Ware.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Aug 6, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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