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49ers 20 - Cardinals 16: Mike Singletary's Formula for Success

When Mike Singletary first took over as 49ers head coach, he instituted something he called his Formula for Success.  The formula consisted of 5 specific keys to victory.  Singletary felt that if the team could successfully achieve these keys, the team could win some ballgames.  Obviously other things can get in the way of victory, but in general, meet those goals = win.  The keys to victory are:

1. Total Ball Security
2. Execute
3. Dominate the trenches
4. Create great field position
5. Finish

Each morning following a 49ers game, I'll do a rundown of each of the five keys.  We have plenty of game analysis, but using these five keys will probably allow us to flesh out exactly what helped the 49ers win, or cost them a victory.  I provided grades last year, but I'm they really seemed rather arbitrary.  So, I'm moving away from grades this year, unless there is a groundswell of support for them.  As always, if you disagree with my take, let us know why.

Total Ball Security
The 49ers had one turnover (Hill's fumble), while the Cardinals had two turnovers (Warner interceptions).  Of course that doesn't quite tell the whole story in a rather sloppy game.  Hill's fumble could have been devastating, but the 49ers defense stepped up in a bend but don't break field goal.  Had that turned into a touchdown, the Cardinals would have had significantly more momentum heading into the half.

Warner's interceptions occurred in the first half and led to a grand total of 3 points.  Warner eventually settled down, although he had to deal with a tough pass rush all game.  In looking at takeaways, the # of takeaways is certainly important, but the team has to take advantage and turn them into points.  At the same time, the pass rush gets credit for one of those interceptions, so even though they technically recovered no fumbles, they came close enough, all things considered.

Execute
As has been mentioned in the past, "execute" is a bit of a nebulous term that could mean a lot of different things, depending on what you're looking at.  For yesterday's game, one could argue there was great execution at times and there was piss-poor execution at other times.  After all, the pass rush clearly brought it's A-game, while the offensive line was abysmal.  Shaun Hill was awful for most of the game, but then "executed" late in the game when the 49ers needed it most.  However, in looking back at yesterday's game, I definitely think offensive execution needs to improve tremendously if this team is going to make any kind of season-long run.

After the jump we look at the final three factors...

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Dominate the Trenches
This would definitely qualify as a performance that averaged out in the end.  The defensive line was dominant, the offensive line...not so much.  Let's get the negative out of the way first and look at the offensive line.  They couldn't get any kind of push to open up running lanes, that's for sure.  The 49ers rushing stats are laughable: 25 carries for 21 yards.  The best run came on Gore's touchdown run following the big Bruce play.  Other than that he got nothing going.  In the passing game, Shaun Hill was sacked 4 times and hit another 5 times (if ESPN's #s are accurate).  I will say that there were several times when the offensive line did pick up the blitz.  However, it was not enough to counter the many struggles they had.

Fortunately, the defensive line came up with a performance that not many people expected.  If nothing else, Justin Smith was an absolute monster on the line.  His stats don't reflect his contribution.  Aside from Smith, the rest of the line was taking care of business.  The defensive line in a 3-4 defense can often be overshadowed by the statistics and video of the outside linebackers.  Parys Haralson and Manny Lawson were swarming the QB and that can be thanked in part to the defensive line occupying the offensive linemen.  This dominance continued with the running game, as Beanie Wells and Tim Hightower were shut down in the running game (15 carries, 44 yards combined).  We'll see how they carry this over to Week 2.

Create great field position
The return game was held in check for the most part.  Rossum had a couple solid punt returns, but in general he was not able to get anything going.  Throw in an ill-fated first quarter return lateral to Clements and it was more or less a non-descript performance in the return game.  One could argue the turnovers set them up in solid field position, including setting up the first points of the game.  On the other side of the ball, Andy Lee got off to a solid 2009 start with a 49.1 average.  He finished 2008 at 47.8.  If this offense continues to struggle, he will prove to be an important key to victory.  Not exactly the best thing in the world, but at least the 49ers have one of the best punters in the game.

Finish
If one thing could define Shaun Hill yesterday, it would be "Finish."  He struggled most of the game, but finished strong with the go-ahead touchdown drive in the fourth quarter.  It wasn't a pretty sight, but he took care of business when necessary.  At the same time one could make the argument that the 49ers didn't "finish" well because they couldn't run out the clock on their last two possessions.  Good offenses will make those late plays to win the game and they didn't.  The team won this time, but the offense is definitely going to need to find ways to finish off teams.

Which leads us to the 49ers defense. Throughout the game, the team was finishing drives strong.  The Cardinals were getting points on the board, but the bend but don't break philosophy at times seemed to take care of business.  The defense showed aggressive tendencies, but they still mixed in some safer play from the secondary.  Late in the game, though, when it came time to finish off the Cardinals, the defense stepped up and did their job.  After tying up the game, the Cardinals forced a 3 and out to get the ball back late in the third quarter.  The Cardinals moved the ball up the field, but were held to a field goal to take a 16-13 lead.  After the 49ers took the lead on the next possession, the 49ers defense stepped up to force a quick Cardinals punt.  Twice after that the 49ers offense went three and out, the defense stepped up and kept the Cardinals out of the end zone, punctuating it with Justin Smith's sack to end the game.

It may have been an ugly performance, but the team took care of its business in the end.  There will be games where the team hits all five keys and still ends up losing due to other factors.  And there will be games when they can barely put one foot in front of the other, and they'll somehow pull it out.  We'd prefer to avoid the latter, but there are no bad wins.

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good analysis

Thank you. There needs to be some category, or subcategory for game-time coaching. These categories of Sing put everything on the players, but the players work within play and personnel decisions of the coaching staff. The players of course have way more impact, but if “6. Coaching” was added, I would say another mixed bag: the offense coaching couldn’t respond to game realities (run was being stopped, which meant there were other opportunities to purse, such as tight end passing, that were ignored) until it was almost too late. Then Hill did have to play almost flawlessly, which was hardly fair. In this context, Hill is the big hero of the game. In his scrappy way, he executed a perfect drive.

by Vertigo on Sep 14, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree completely...

Arizona’s linebackers were run blitzing all game long, so seemingly, the tight ends would be very open in play action. Additionally, where was a sweep or a counter toss to get Gore into space? Great win, but would a little bit of offensive diversity kill the coaches?

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by Mcamp49 on Sep 14, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The offensive coaching seemed pretty poor, but the defense usually seemed to get the right play.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 14, 2009 8:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was very worried about this game

in the 3rd quarter. It seemed the Cardinal offensive coaching had adjusted, and they Niners just tried to run the game out with a 10 point lead. I think the Niners OL can block a little but it’s very hard to run when the defense knows you are going to run 1st and 2nd down every single series. Even the draw runs on 3rd and long were terrible.

It’s one thing to get out schemed for a half, but to come out and make NO adjustments (until the Niners were trailing and forced to pass) is very poor coaching.

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by zenbitz on Sep 14, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh....

wow today feels great… 49ers=winners.

NINERS 4 LIFE

by LADubbz45 on Sep 14, 2009 8:41 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

but yes today and tomorrow

is great ive been smiling from ear to ear!!!

by 2ninersonecup on Sep 14, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i only saw from 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter....

bc i had to work, but that entire time we didnt have good field position..maybe that needs to be changed

by 2ninersonecup on Sep 14, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

you're right I thought rossum did a poor job in returning kicks...

maybe we should use Spurlock… see what he can do

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Sep 14, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Play Calling was attrotious

I can understand the need to establish a solid running, after all that was the “BIG DEAL” this year. and yes I also understand that this only the first game but DAMN.. When it isn’t working why did we keep doing what we knew wasn’t working??? We need to be able get outside if it isn’t there up the gut…Which leads me to ask… WHY did the holes open up and why didn’t we see Coffee in there on a couple of plays at least. His younger legs and being a new talent may generated some sort of ground game… I hope Jimmy Reye gets his head out of yes shorts and finds some way to open up the offense.

by WC-Ninerhead on Sep 14, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Coffee did get in

but only for like 1 or 2 carries. And they went nowhere. The poor run game was due to bad line play and AZ stacking the box.

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I must have blinked and missed it...Not supprised at the result though..

And you are right about the line play, and the play calling..Hope to see offensive improvement against the Hawks..

by WC-Ninerhead on Sep 14, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pass then Rush

It seems that we really have to make teams respect our pass game which will open things up for our run. Everytime we ran the ball, Gerald Hayes was in the backfield to stuff us for a loss. I believe if we can establish the pass game like that last 80 yard drive early on. This will help us tremendously. I didn’t understand Raye’s play-calling a few times (i.e. the 3 run plays in a row, 2 times in the game); guess he was hoping that outta the 6, gore would have busted one. IDK what he was thinking on those. But he came through at the end with the play-calling and that was the difference. I hope that the Niners look at alot of tape from Seattle and make the necessary adjustments. Its another division game and equally as important as the Cards were. It’s our home opener, so we will have our 12th man working for us. But what is important, is getting better at the 5 key points Fooch touched on. If we do that, then we can only reap success. Seattle is much like the Cards as far as personel goes and I don’t think we will have to tweak our defense too much to be successful against thier offense. If we can exploit thier flimsy O-line like we did the Cards, I think it could be a looonnnnngggg day for Hasselback, much like it was for Warner.

by Drew K on Sep 14, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One-dimensional offenses don't work anymore.

I’ve been thinking this for awhile, but it’s becoming obvious that very, very few teams can get by with either a run-first or pass-first approach to offense any longer. It’s just too easy for DCs to scheme effectively against a one-dimensional offense. Teams must be able to both pass-to-run and run-to-pass to force defenses to play them honestly.

The 9ers can expect more of the same next week against the Seahawks. They will put eight or nine in the box to stop the run and blitz like crazy, forcing Hill into a passing game. The differences between AZ and SEA are that Seattle’s D-line is much better than the Card’s and their secondary isn’t nearly as good. That game will be won by Hill’s passing and another solid defensive performance.

I just really can’t say enough about how well the D played yesterday – it was outstanding in all phases. The missing pass rush materialized, the D-line was dominating, P. Willis was a one-man wrecking crew, and the defensive secondary played a nearly perfect game against one of the best passing attacks in the league. They won the turnover battle and made Warner’s life very difficult. My game ball goes to Justin Smith, who made great plays at key times to stop Warner, but Nate Clements wasn’t far behind for his performance in shutting down one of the best WRs in the game.

by MontanaPass on Sep 14, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good gutting it out and grind win.

Wasn’t impressed with the playcalling at all, though. Run straight for the first 2 downs, pass on the 3rd.

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by Fearless Frog on Sep 14, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AHA!

So you were watching the 49ers play?!?!

I’m beginning to suspect your Seachicken fanhood….

jk

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by chikmagnet_565 on Sep 14, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Starting 1-0 after going into the defending NFC champ’s home feels good no matter what.

by deuce deuce on Sep 14, 2009 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

yes sir

It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.

by 49erLou on Sep 14, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully, unlike in the past

We can build on this.

Now, BEAT THE SEAHAWKS!

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by skywaker9 on Sep 14, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

few thoughts

it seemed that several times there were good sized holes for Gore to run thru, but he instead just ran up the middle instead of breaking outside. I don’t want to be too critical b/c he doesn’t have much more than a split second to make a decision, but maybe he shouldn’t run with his head down so much. that certainly wasn’t the norm, but I did see it.

The team also shouldn’t advertise that it’s going to run the ball the vast majority of the time. Yes, everyone knows that is what they should do based on personnel, but they still shouldn’t telegraph it so much in the media. Anyway, the Cards were ready and stacked the box accordingly. Darnell Dockett is a monster.

The pass rush was incredible. that can’t be said enough. They had a good plan of making Warner move his feet, which isn’t in his comfort zone. It also helped the secondary cover the Cards’ dangerous receivers, which they did a good job of anyway. It’s a lot to ask to cover those guys for too long if Warner has all day to throw. Fortunately, the pass rush did a great job of putting pressure on Warner and everyone on the D-line seemed to be in the mix.

that Hightower had a big day receiving was fine by me considering AZ’s overall weapons.

Playcalling was pretty bad and unimaginative. The team just didn’t seem to make any adjustments in the running game. The one time I recall them trying to get to the outside was the reverse, which seemed to be slow developing and Bruuce doesn’t have the speed he once did, so it went nowhere. Other than that, all of the runs seemed to be up the middle. It wouldn’t kill them to try a sweep or something off tackle once in a while, would it?

Also, I’m guessing that they saw something in the coverage schemes that the Cards were running, but I was surprised at all the deep passes. Throwing deep isn’t Hill’s strength and though he connected on one to Bruce he was off on everything else. It was also surprising b/c the O-line wasn’t doing a great job of pass blocking either.

On that final long scoring drive, all of the completed passes were w/in 20 yards and they were able to move the ball effectively. Regarding ball security, I thought Hill got lucky with a few passes that he threw (particularly deep) into coverage and worry that he won’t be so lucky in the future. He did a pretty solid job on the short passes, though.

Also, Patrick Willis is a monster. His interception was pretty spectacular.

overall, the defense deserves a lot of credit for this win though the offense came up when it had to (particularly on 3rd down – it converted 4 3rd downs on the final scoring drive). 203 total yards isn’t gonna cut it over the long run, but if the team can run the ball more effectively, it should be able to break 300 total yards more regularly, which should lead to more points.

Lastly, Singletary did a good job getting the team ready and running the game from the sidelines.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 14, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pass game

I think teams that can pass successfully early on in a game 1st and 2nd quarter, typically have alot more success on the ground. When you can establish a pass (even if short dump offs and YAC), it forces the backers to back off and get out of the box. I think we early on, need to go against our philosophy on offense to open up our philosophy on offense. I liked that we were not afraid to go down field….teams don’t expect that from us. Doing the unexpected will definitely be a plus for us. We can’t be so predictable…everytime we had two running backs in and a tight end, the Cards knew it was a run. Playaction pass is only effective once the run is established usually.

by Drew K on Sep 14, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A win is a win is a win...

I think the best part of this game was the fact that our biggest “weaknesses” coming into the game, passing and pass rush, won the game for us.

Granted the passing only really lasted for one series, but it was the series that gave us the lead for good. We KNOW we can run the ball, and the Cardinals knew we were going to try and run the ball. The Cards played the run well and forced us to go to the air, and we beat them.

The offensive play calling needs improvement, as well as the o-line. I have full confidence in Singletary making sure our offense makes some adjustments this week, and hopefully we will look a little better this Sunday.

by blako on Sep 14, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A realistic Analysis

So much for the 60% run 40% pass-don’t you think??? The reality is the O Line needs a TON of improvement, especially the right tackle-where they picked on Snyder all day and Chilo got blown up more than a few times by Dockett. Like I said-they shouldv’e addressed this need in the draft.

The pass rush applied a lot more pressure than what I ever expected-but why was that the case?? It might have something to do with Boldin playing hurt and Breaston not playng at all which severely limited Warner. The Niners could blanket Fitz, could blitz and get away with it with the other 2 not playin or playing hurt. The niner secondary wasn’t tested as if all played and were healthy. This is the main reason the defense looked that good. If you don’t think so-we can see in the next meeting-assuming Boldin and Breaston are healthy. Hightower had such a big day since the other 2 weren’t there puttin pressure on the secondary.

The Cardinal were out of synch most of the day and thats for many reasons, but I attribute this win to that, injuries, and stupid Cardinal penalties.

Don’t get me wrong this was a HUGE win and I think thet have a shot to beat the Seahawks next week.

I just think this win was lucky, exposed numerous problems, and makes me feel very uneasy.

by Italia1970 on Sep 14, 2009 1:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Whats the excuse for Fitz

Supposedly this guy was supposed to be unstoppable (thats according to Cards fans). They tried that lame fade route to him, Clements shut it down… He got a very hardly fought 71 yards which is not a typical game for him…

I’m sorry but I have to majorly disagree. The Niners secondary did a great job. Boldin has played injured before and put up big numbers. He was bothered most of the season by injury last year and had some pretty good games.

Last year Fitz only got 77 total yards in two games against our secondary. Spencer, Clements, Lewis, Goldson and the rest of the gang really performed well. Yes, Breaston was out, but Urban is no slouch. I was impressed and really like our secondary matchups against any team

by Drew K on Sep 14, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Urban is the #4 normally

Boldin didnt play with a sore hamstring that put him on the injury report and effects the way he runs, at all last year. Show me otherwise-which you won’t be able to, which makes your argument weak. Next time do your research.

I’ll take a wr getting 70 yds and a TD on my fantasy team every week and be happy. I am sure the niners would LUV to have a wr get that production. The niners and every other team in the league would LUV to have Fitz.

Try making arguements based on facts, not Ra Ra and emotion.

by Italia1970 on Sep 14, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You do realize Fitz got 30 of those 70 yards on the 2nd to last play of the game where the 49ers were playing coverage 25 yards deep?

by bignerd on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niners did not bltiz very much

And who cares about Breaston being out. Fitzgerald has entered the new sphere of dominant players. A guy that great is a danger regardless who lines up next to him. That he was controlled the entire 1st half speaks quite well of the secondary. I also recall Boldin playing hurt in the playoffs and still being a factor. To say the secondary was not tested is foolish.

Why do you make excuses for AZ but not the Niners? Call it how you want but apply the same standards to both teams. The Niners also had penalties: one of which saved a missed AZ FG, another that kept an AZ drive alive. Face it, the Niners won because they were better in someone else’s building.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a Cardinals fan, congratulations

Our crappy O-Line helped out you guys a lot, but you still played a good game.

Although we would have won if the Ref did not take away the Fumble return TD, and those 2 penalties after the Punt Return that got the Cards to your 38 yard line.

Still, it was a fun game, and thats what I like to see from this rivalry, hopefully the MNF game we will play later in the season will be another close one like this.

by JoeCB1991 on Sep 14, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

thank you

always nice to see a fan of the opponent come in and make a nice reasonable comment and not just talk smack. Good game and good luck next time around.

Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis

by wjackalope on Sep 14, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fumble return TD

That had to be the best example I’ve ever seen of something that looked clear in real time, but turned out the opposite in replay. Hill flung that ball so far I thought there was no way it could have been a fumble.

But as you say, the refs didn’t call it. But they also called that phantom defensive interference penalty that should have been a “Too many men in the backfield” call against AZ.

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by achiappanza on Sep 14, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I thought it was surely not a fumble until I saw the replay.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 14, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think we can all agree

the refs looked a little rusty

It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.

by 49erLou on Sep 14, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well one thing to note about the fumble return TD

If you look closely, most of our guys figured it was dead, and so did most of your guys. Had it been clear cut and everyone was on the same page that may not have went all the way back.

by Ninjames on Sep 14, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Niners 20 - Cards 16

It seems people are critical of Shaun Hill’s performance yesterday and to an extent they’re correct. However, the totally white bread offensive play calling was uninspired at best. Shaun was a tough competitor out there. He and whole team didn’t give up when things turned bad which is a lot better than we have seen in a number of years.

by Natural Red on Sep 14, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

absolutely. The team played with a lot more heart and character than in previous season. Singletary deserves a lot of credit for this turn around.

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by nostocksjustbonds on Sep 14, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

everyone is terribly critical of the play calling, however

has it occurred to anyone that because this was the first game under another ‘new’ system that they might be a little more conservative and call plays that they have high confidence the players will know and execute? I don’t know if I’d want to open up the playbook in the first game of a new system…players running busted routes and not being on the same page as their teammates is what causes turnovers and then losses in real games.

I’d say that Raye was conservative but probably more because he couldn’t have been 100% sure whether the players really had the plays and the system down or not under game conditions. I’m sure that as the players and coaches gain confidence that the offensive play-calling will get a lot better.

The O-line does need a lot of work. They seemed real slow off the snap.

by jviet on Sep 14, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also...

“Singletary said Raye is still learning about the team’s offensive personnel.”

Jimmy was probably remembering how to be an offensive coordinator as well. He hadn’t called plays in a while so again it is understandable that he was conservative. The real measure will be how things progress over he next couple of games.

by jviet on Sep 14, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair

The offensive coordinating for the Cards isn’t the same as it was under Haley either. Both teams still need to get into a groove.

by JoeCB1991 on Sep 14, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

It is still the opener with a new system, in a loud stadium and two linemen who played and practiced very little in pre-season. As we saw MOnday night with NE and SD, even top teams and QBs who’ve been in the same system can struggle out of the gate. Let’s check back after a home game then having to play that Minnesota D-line under their dome.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

You think checking back after the next game then a road game against a dominant d-line is a bad thing?

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

NE and SD..

Have real QB’s. I do not dare bringing SF to compare.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My point

Is that if they and their teams can struggle against rather poor teams in the first game then all teams who looked less than stellar but won can wait for our judgement. Perhaps those tops teams have fallen back to the pack… or just had a bumpy start to an what will again be a good season. Perhaps our guys have turned the corner… or just were fortunate. Time will tell. Don’t let your disdain of Hill get in the way on analysis.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't let your myopia..

Get in the way of how to watch a football game either.

Oops, too late.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

U still angry you lost the other debate?

I’ll remember from now on. Drummer boy doesn’t like to let things play out over time. He prefers to make one game judgements. Noted.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohhhh. the dreaded "Drummer boy" smack...

You forget to add a “pWned” there.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW..

Because of sire decorum and general respect, if I wanted to smear your nic here, I could easily put an “M” somewhere in your that would be entirely appropriate.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

You’re starting to not make sense again.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

pWned!

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If believing that makes you feel better

Well, that says everything. Whatever works.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll stop now...

Out of respect to Fooch.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

I don’t think this needs to go much further.

by Fooch on Sep 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shaun

He did the same thing the last time we met last season. He just didnt have the ball to win the game last year like he did this year. Gore fell and then Martz for some ungodly reason sent in Michael Robinson (who rarely saw ANY action other than special teams) to jump the pile… I have faith that Hill will continue to improve. He was at times streaky yesterday but he persevered. There were a few passes that he openly underthrew by 3-4 yards that I’d like to see him complete in the futrue. A couple of the long balls he threw made my heart drop also. But he didn’t play a ton in preseason and I think we have to consider that he is just working some of the kinks out still. It was afterall the first game of the season (on the road playing last years NFC champs in thier house at that).

by Drew K on Sep 14, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a suggestion

Shouldn’t your “total ball security” topic mention fumbles we didn’t lose? I mean, if you’ve got total ball security, you should never drop ’em.

"The questions are so stupid. I don't believe in rivalries. I don't believe in curses. Wake up the damn Bambino, maybe I'll drill him in the ass."
- Pedro Martinez, asked about the Curse of the Bambino

by achiappanza on Sep 14, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmm jimmy raye

its kind of off topic…but he looks really, really old…like star wars The emperor old…(i cant really tell because he’s behind a hat and sunglasses in virtually every picture…
I just don’t know about his health and longevity as our OC past this year..i’m hoping I’m wrong..

by 11allstar on Sep 14, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Did you say..

Star Wars?

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 14, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Adam Snyder highlights

by bignerd on Sep 14, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

epic

It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.

by 49erLou on Sep 14, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

is that guy doing flips suppossed to be crabtree after he signs doing some “extra work” with the OC….“michael turn to the daaaarrrrk side of the force”. Muhhhhhaaaaa..

by 11allstar on Sep 14, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

its the beginning of the season

and generally offenses take longer to get going in the regular season than defenses. just look at indy this year & last year, new england looked rusty as well as green bay. new orleans is an exception that my ff team loves. i think given another game or two we will truly see what the offense is capable of.

by fl_niner on Sep 14, 2009 9:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A contrast to our last trip to AZ..

When we didn’t force a turnover or record a sack. That stands out more than anything else. The one turnover we committed I put on Raye because the drive was already in FG range and we’re up 13-3 with less than 2 min remaining in the half. That was the time to hit AZ in the mouth with runs that bled the clock and assured AZ would not score again in the half.

I’m still quite pleased with the defense and they’re critical because that’s the unit (along with ST) that will carry the team for the first month, until everyone is more comfortable in the offensive system and deep threat Jones returns. Seattle is a different test since their RBs and TE are bigger players in the passing game, plus they’ll run more often than AZ. We’ll see what Manusky pulls up for this week.

Big picture: if you were told that we’d rush for so few yards on the road and not score a ST on defensive TD, how many people would think we’d win? And yet that happened at the defending division and conference champions home. And it was done by beating up their strength: offense.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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