Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Week 1
Every season ESPN.com runs approval ratings for coaches. It allows for folks to express their approval or disapproval for a coach. Most people had problems with Mike Nolan and we never ran an approval poll for him. Once Mike Singletary took over we began to run weekly approval ratings. Given the fresh start to the season, I think we'll roll this feature out again for the entire season. At this point it might seem like a pointless exercise. After all, the honeymoon has not ended for Mike Singletary, and a opening week road win certainly can't hurt him.
Nonetheless, if things were to go south at some point, it'd be nice to see the progression of the approval rating week to week. For those wondering, Mike Singletary finished the 2008 season with a 99.9% approval rating. 215 people voted and all but 1 voted yes. I'm guessing the no vote was by somebody who who wanted to stand out.
Win or lose, each week I'll use this post to take a look at Singletary's performance in the game and general thoughts on him. If you think I'm off on a certain point, feel free to offer your own take on the issue.
What I thought was the most intriguing moment of week 1 was the timeout he called late in the third quarter when the Cardinals were driving. The Cardinals had picked up two quick passing first downs, followed by a Beanie Wells six yard rush. Singletary proceeded to called timeout and brought the defense too him for some kind of speech. When asked after the game, Shawntae Spencer indicated he couldn't use the language Singletary used. So clearly it was a fire them up kind of speech, as opposed to any sort of strategy speech. Not shocking to consider, but worth clarifying.
I'm somewhat surprised there hasn't been more discussion about this moment given the somewhat unorthodox nature of it. I'm guessing that might be due in part to many folks not getting Fox coverage of the game. The Cardinals did get one more first down (on a Haralson offsides), but had to settle for a field goal. How many folks think that timeout helped settle down the troops?
The way I look at Singletary, I do think the rah-rah motivational stuff has some value coming from him. Nolan couldn't pull that off. Singletary is a Hall of Famer who's been there and done that better than any of the current 49ers. I'm not going to say that will win games for this team, but I can see how it would at least work better coming from Samurai Mike than coming from someone without his playing pedigree.
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I think that anyone who votes no after week 1 is either a) not an actual 49ers fan b) is channeling their dissatisfaction with Jimmy Raye c) has the last name of Crabtree
by save10 on Sep 15, 2009 8:18 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I voted "Yes"...
…but wish he would’ve chosen a better OC.
Noonan. Nooooonan!
by Giant Fan in Singapore on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
like who?
Who was out there?
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they did interview like 7 other candidates or so....
I bet Linehan is REALLY regretting his decision to choose the LIONS over the Niners lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Sep 15, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t even believe we considered that loser. He was an embarrassment coaching the Rams.
by bignerd on Sep 15, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think our QB coach is the OC of the future
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, where do these thoughts spurn from?
by jonesin25 on Sep 15, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pure hunch
If memory serves, he was hired prior to Raye. Some media folks thought he might be the OC. IMO, Sing didn’t want a first time coordinator, no matter how much potential the guy has, to be his new coordinator as a first time HC. Raye had been there/done that and has a resume heavily tilted toward the running game which Sing wanted to prioritize with this group.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly!
this team has stunk so bad until Mike got here that I can’t imagine anyone not voting yes. I suppose some of you must need Super Bowl victories in week one!
by Stormin007 on Sep 15, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Craptree made multiple accounts I think.
Sing did make him cry remember.
by jonesin25 on Sep 15, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The "Moment"...
I don’t think about that too much. I’ve seen a lot of coaches do that.
Even though the Raiders lost last night, I saw a gutsy call on 4th and 15 that should have won that game for them. Weigh that against “The Moment”, and you see trust in 2 different ways.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
To be fair to the Raiders, that touchdown catch should have been pretty close to being the difference in that game for them. Instead of going into halftime with the lead against a team that was sucking, they had the life sucked out of them by a bogus overturned call and ended up going into the half tied and with no momentum to speak of..
100 out of 100 times, that’s a touchdown. Except for the Raiders. That ref should catch a fine for that. He won’t, but he should. Absolutely egregious miscall of a pretty critical play.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 15, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was a bad call too..
But according the the “rule” it wasn’t. NE had a similar catch in the end zone with Watson, but the ball didn’t roll away from him.
What hurt the Raiders was the DC going to more of a prevent the last few minutes of the game. SD lost 2 O-lineman during the game, including the center, and to let a crappy SD march to a TD is on the DC. The Raider defense played great most of the game.
But that deep TD throw from JaFatboy on 4th down was a thing of beauty . Great call. Even Steve Young was stunned by it.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing about it, though, was that it didn’t even really roll away from him – not during the play, at least. The ball moved upon contact with the ground and nosed out of his grip a little bit, but his hand was under it the whole time, pressing it to his body.
Even with the “rule” (which I understand) being enforced, I just can’t see how there was anything resembling incontrovertible evidence that it wasn’t a ply.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t a “catch.” I think I was trying to type “play” but my brain meant “catch.”
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 15, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with ya..
It was a ticky tack call. I mean, the ball can just break the plane of the end zone, and it’s a TD, no matter the control. A WR controls it with 2 feet before going out of bounds (tip toe catch) and it’s a TD. A WR get 2 feet down in the end zone, has the ball all they way to the ground, and it’s incomplete.
Might as well import the NBA refs into the NFL. It’s bad enough NFL refs suck in general (BTW, I don’t subscribe to winning or losing by the Refs, since the 49ers had some favor from them in the past :see Rice phantom catch against GB in the playoffs years ago: ), yet to add more arbitrary rules makes them even worse. Hell, the NFL might rival Golf in the volume of rules now.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rice's was not as bad as the '96 MNF game @ GB
Cost us the division and homefield. But I agree that NFL refs have less to do with the ultimate outcome even when incompetent.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you need to bring the BeeBee nightmare up?
I finally shook it after 13 years and you had to bring it up
by dalien82 on Sep 15, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry about that
But I’m glad I’m not the only one who remembers. Do you also recall the Edgar Bennett two point converstion where he was stuffed but they gave it to him? And the unsportsmanlike conduct call that helped put GB in FG range? Awful all around, tho none as bad as the BeeBee play. And they had replay!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are correct about their defense
But Uncle Al doesn’t like the bltiz. Didn’t let Ryan do it (a Ryan not bltiz?!) and won’t let Marshall either. If there was ever a team to bltiz, it’s one with two linemen out, playing on the road and no receiver able to get downfield separation.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marshall..
Is running a 4-3 as opposed to Ryan’s 3-4. Played a lot of Man coverage, and they hit hard. It’s still a work in progress there, but if that defense improves, so do the Raider’s chances.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan also played man coverage
That’s Al’s way. I’ll wait to judge the improvement of their D. San Diego looked slow at the skill positions and with LT showing age, they can no longer win by running over people. As Steve Young kept pointing out, a basic defense is easy to exploit. That SD could not does not speak well for them. The again, they never play well in September under Norv so as the season progresses we shall see.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they executed well..
Can’t take that away from them.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THe Oakland D had a lot to do with their inability to run!
Seymour is a BEAST and he will improve ANY defense for years to come. Call him Little Strahan he will be effective for 4 to 6 years!!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked what I saw out of the Oakland D...
Which is either they played well, or SD can’t run. Probably a bit of both.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the addition of Seymour making players around him better
Oakland was ran all over all preseason
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on now
Seymour hasn’t even practiced with the team or worked out with them. Let’s give some credit to the guys playing for better gap control and not falling for all the misdirection plays that Norv called. That’s better discpine than they’ve shown since Gruden was around. So credit Marshall before Seymour.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BS
I watched the game and had my eyes on Seymour. He played every down position on the D-Line and him and the OLB form Dallas made most of the plays on the run and pass. He demanded doubles and let others play man on man, i watched the game closely!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust or desperation?
When you’ve got a record streak of losing you take certain gambles in hopes of turning things around.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Raiders took a TO..
Reset, and executed a gutsy call. Desperation? No. That’s going for the win. If the 49ers did that, then everybody would be wearing Big Wooden Crosses this week.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh stop
One can be gutsy and desperate at the same time.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WAT...
Why is it you always reach?
Everything 49er footaball is nothing compared to the rest of the League? Homer much?
Yes, you do.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We were talking Raiders not Niners
So WAT to you?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking football....
Which is a very tedious subject when it comes to discussing it with you.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your comment
“Everything 49er footaball is nothing compared to the rest of the League? Homer much?” – your comment about the Niners not football. Seems you become tedious when called out. Just clarify or apologize then move on. Stop trying to spread the bitterness.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why should I apologize..
When you don’t know the difference of a desperate play (the Hail Mary at the end of the game) to a ballsy play (the TD that started all this) that scored a TD instead of a FG?
You’re being petty here. I can’t help if you miss the point.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won't have Mr. Crabtree this year but we'll have Mr. Crabby here
Yeah, I know the difference. And one can be depserate and ballsy at the same time. Losing teams are more likely to be both in a desperate attetmpt to make something happen and change the losing culture. Notice that NE did not do the desperate/balsy thing by onside kicking. They can trust their team to get the ball back because they’ve done it before.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing on 4th and 14..
If you don’t see that as a ballsy call, then you don’t. But that says more about about how you like to see things how they fit you, rather than looking at the reality of the situation.
Even Steve Young was stunned by it.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I say not ballsy?
I asked a question: “trust or desperation?” I then said “one can be gutsy and desperate at the same time.” It says a great deal about you and your argumentative style that your ignore what’s been said to fit your point.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it wasn't a ...
Desperate play? That they trusted the offense to execute it? That they didn’t show trust by going conservative?
My “argumentative style”?
Bwah!
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC..
It was before the 4th down play for a TD. I even heard Steve Young say that they reset and got everybody on the same page.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before the Raider TD?
Wasn’t that an injury timeout to scrape Johnny Lee Higgins dead body off off the field? I remember Cable calling a timeout right before the Chargers winning touchdown but it looked liked he ran on the field because of a formation issue.
by bignerd on Sep 15, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either way..
They had a TO to reset what play they wanted to execute, and they went for the downfield bomb for a TD, instead of playing for a FG. It was a great play, which is the original point.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking good
Die hard niner fan here.. they looked good singletary will do them some good and i would like nothing more than see them make it to playoffs this year. dont want to get excited though they still dont have a qb i pray that nothing happent to hill if so with smith could be extremely long year. overall look good year looks promising lets all pray we go for qb this year and next year they may be no doubts
by dram209 on Sep 15, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The time out
It reminded me of basketball, when the coach comes out onto the court to gather players. Also, it was a sign of his intuitive approach, as when he let S. Hill stay in the game last year.
by Vertigo on Sep 15, 2009 9:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
raiders suck
im tired of excuses for the raidasses they been the worst overall team the last few years (excluding the lions) there qb sucks and you in for another long season just admit you guys are garbage and will be until davis is dead. i do like miller he scored some ok points in fantasy, if jmarcus could throw he may have hade me a td!
by dram209 on Sep 15, 2009 9:08 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Singletary Coverage
Maybe it’s because i’m a Niner fan, and i have a biased interest, but I too thought that there would be at least an article about Singletary calling that timeout. I was only watching, but even I started feeling something when I saw how animated he was.
by vandam on Sep 15, 2009 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Powerful Moment
I was taken back when I saw him walk out on the field and give a signature Singletary speech and from that moment on I knew the defense was gonna hold.
by Steve Young on Sep 15, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He won which is a great starting point
His team was more disciplined (fewer penalites and turnovers) on the road and he won his only replay challenge (anyone think if that had been Nolan he’d have talked afterward about there only being 11 men but he couldn’t get word in time from other coaches?). The timeout was an excellent call even had AZ made it to the endzone; the defense was understandibly exhausted.
Strong start to 2009.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's an OK start..
Let’s not get too carried away here. The difference is between last year’s HC, and this year’s. That’s it. There are still 15 games to go, and the 49ers didn’t play all that well overall.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a great starting point when ranking the HC
After all, the more wins the merrier.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Winston Wolfe would say..
“Let’s not start (site decorum site decorum site decorum site decorum) yet Gentlemen”.
So please remain upright.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol…that line is appropriate (yet inappropriate)
On 5/7, the best part of waking is up LOLDGERS in my cup.
by GameSix on Sep 15, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree... and never disagreed. You gotta learn to let some things go
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You reply..
and tell me I gotta let things go.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And you still keep doing it..
all over this thread?
Stalk much?
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Projection
But no thanks.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chalk up one more..
Notch in my iBedpost.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only...
But I bet you do keep score. No matter how inaccurate. Whatever works.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is a quick reset..
Think of it as a “Timeout” to help you focus:
You gotta learn to let some things go
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You should take your own advice
I’m not in need of it. But thank you for offering.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW..
Boise St. vs. Oklahoma.
Extra point, or go for the win.
Statue of Liberty play.
Ballsy, or desperate?
Bwah!
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ballsy on both counts
Going for it and the play call, though the former may also have been great strategy if the coach felt his team was wearing down.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that's why..
The Raider call wasn’t desperate, considering down and distance, not settling for a higher percentage, and trusting that they could execute it, because that could set the tone of Raider football for the season to come.
Sean O’Hair lost a Tourney to Mickelson.
He had a shot to an island green which he hit off of the tee early in the Tourney.
Phil had a one shot lead, and IIRC, had layed up to win with par tie with bogie.
Either way, Sean was playing for second if he didn’t go for the green.
He went for the green and missed into the water. He would up missing again, thus, sinking down the Leaderboard.
His reason? He wasn’t gonna play for second place. Even though he lost a lot of $$$.
That’s ballsy.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your first paragraph
Is my whole point on our other post, a losing team doing something desperate and ballsy trying to change the losing culture. Was it your goal to take my point and conflate it to yours or was that by accident?
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because the call itself..
WASN’T DESPERATE.
Here is a clue: throwing deep with Russell’s big arm is what the Raiders are building themselves
for. Thus, a situation to EXPLOIT THAT.
Now, if you want to boil it down to the little crap, that’s on you.
Your waffling on gutsy and desperate. Slippery. Way to go out on a limb with bullshite.
I’m the one sticking by my guns here. You see, here is where we differ, thus. my whole "Wooden Cross
If the 49ers had done that, you would probably call it “gutsy”. Not “desperate”.
Thank you for playing. Remember, the House always wins. See you next paycheck.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You still upset cause you lost this debate?
Small man, small life, small debates. If it makes you feel better, you can have the point (whatever it is now). I can send you a wooden cross if you like. Prayer may help you.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I remember correctly you were a little carried away when Crabtree was drafted!
And you’re saying the niners didn’t play that well overall? Considering the lack of talent on Offense 20 pts with 20 plus rushing yards and a win is an accomplishment. Mike Sing has changed the culture of the team, it won’t blow people out but perseverance will be more helpful than what Nolan EVER brought to the table. Doesn’t take long to see that he’s the best coach we have had since Mariuchi, I thought the post was asking about Sing not the team!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't remember correctly..
Because I never got excited over Crabtree. And yes, they didn’t play that well overall.
If you knew what you were talking about you would do better. Like over at Field Gulls.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(site decorum) Field Gulls
I knew what I was talking about when I thought Crabtree was a horrible pick. Wasn’t me who thought we were lucky to have him fall in our lap. I was banned from Field Gulls after I said Housh may not make it to the Pro Bowl.
If someone came to this site and called us the forty winers I don’t think Fooch would ban them. I do fine, yall are just listening to slow!! lol
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok..
I still don’t know if you mean that I got excited over Crabtree. I don’t remember where I was during the draft, but I know I wasn’t watching it on TV.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little excited IS an OVERSTATEMENT
But saying I don’t know what I’m talking about is as well. I NEVER thought the Crabtree pick was beneficial.
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference is also
Manisky calling his defense the way he wants, Hill is the starter, and the is taylored toward the players and not the Coach, figured I’d point out what you left out!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
so who voted no?
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
by 49erLou on Sep 15, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't me..
Maybe the Nedney Factor applies here somehow.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raiders fans are probably super pissed that they lost, blaming it on the refs, when they should just blame it on their team. If the Raiders were good, they wouldn’t leave it up to the refs to decide the outcome of the game.
So the Raider fans came out to criticize the 49ers out of spite and jealousy.
by aBulldog on Sep 15, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like who?..
From what I see, Ninerfan myopia looms as large as Raiderfan myopia.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 15, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That TD was stolen from them
They need to blame it on Russell’s inconsitencies and abysmal defensive play down the stretch. And that bad call didn’t help!!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bad call didn’t decide the game, but it definitely didn’t help. Always important to remember that there was still an entire half to play after that call… and they had the lead pretty close to the end, anyway.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 15, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still 4 pts that were snuffed
I’m not saying it decided the game, but you can’t ignore the bad call taking away 7 and having to settle for 3, it still makes a difference!
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought about that
When trailing 17-13 the game would’ve been tied at 17. Meaning on 4th & 15 they punt instead of going for it, thus SDs till drives for the win. At worse the game goes to O.T.
The Raiders’ biggest issue when they’ve had chances to win the past few years is their defense will play outstanding all game then give up the drive at the end to lose. They needed one play and could not make it. The story of losing teams…
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Being up at the half instead of tied
would change the whole scheme and playcalling coming out in the 3rd, the whole half would have changed, we can’t assume everything would have gone the way it did.
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by rlott#42 on Sep 15, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no, I ABSOLUTELY agree. I just don’t think it should be overstated either way. The call itself did not lose them the game, and once the call was made it was still well within their hands to control the outcome, but it absolutely affected the rest of the game in a way that could have easily played a pretty large role in the eventual loss.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 15, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a good time out
While the rah-rah speech may or may not have gotten his defense back on track, the time out was well timed anyways. The D had been playing practically the entire second half at that point. They were getting run over. They had to be tired. The time out let them catch their breaths for a second and got them refocused on doing the things that had been successful so far in the game. I’m not sure it was the speech as much as it was the time out itself that got the defense back on track in that game.
Either way, good call. I’ve been pretty impressed with Singletary so far. I just hope the team doesn’t wear out down the stretch after the brutal training camp. There’s a fine line in there somewhere.
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by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 15, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought that timeout was perfectly timed. You could feel the momentum of the game turn to the Cardinals. The fans started getting louder, and Warner was starting to get into a rhythm. If that was Nolan coaching, the team would have fizzled out in the second half. Players would have started to give up at that point, wondering to themselves “it’s only a matter of time before they score a touchdown and we lose anyways.”
I think the timeout helped re-focus the team, but more than that, it probably helped the players get a quick little breather.
by aBulldog on Sep 15, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Third quarter time out.
Never was a fan of rah-rah speeches in general but at that particular time in that particular game it was brilliant. The Cards were kind of on a roll at that time and it seems to have broke some of that momentum. The team got a little rest but more over it gave Mike a chance to put a big size 12 in a few backsides.
by Natural Red on Sep 15, 2009 11:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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