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San Francisco 49ers vs. Seattle Seahawks: A Prospector's Guide

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And we're back with the latest edition of the Prospector's Guide.  This week features the division rival Seattle Seahawks in an early battle for NFC West supremacy.  The winner of this game will occupy sole possession of first place for at least one week and get a 2-0 leg up in divisional play.  Both teams struggled last year, and are looking to return to form.  At this point I'd say the pressure is on the 49ers as the home team.  It's essential to hold serve at home.  If the 49ers can do that they're guaranteed no worse than a 4-2 divisional record.

The 49ers host the Seahawks in what will be the 21st contest between the two teams in the series, dating back to 1976. The Seahawks hold an 11-9 advantage over the 49ers, with the teams having split the series in 2008. The last meeting between the two teams marked Mike Singletary’s debut as the 49ers head coach.

San Francisco is coming off a 20-16 victory over the Cardinals in the season opener. RB Frank Gore recorded both a rushing touchdown and receiving score for the first time in his career, while QB Shaun Hill posted a 89.3 passer rating.  LB Patrick Willis led the team in tackles and recorded an interception that led to a 49ers field goal. San Francisco’s defense limited Arizona to just 40 rushing yards and 29% on third down conversions.

The 49ers have won five of their last six games, dating back to 2008. With a win last week, Hill improves his career record as a starter to 8-3, which includes a perfect 5-0 record when playing at home.

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49ers-Cardinals Seahawks Connections
Coaches

• 49ers offensive coordinator Jimmy Raye coached alongside Seahawks offensive line coach Mike Solari with the Kansas City Chiefs from 1998 – 2005. Both served in the same capacity for the Chiefs.
• 49ers quarterbacks coach Mike Johnson coached for the Atlanta Falcons with Seahawks head coach Jim Mora and offensive coordinator Greg Knapp from 2004-05.
• 49ers tight ends coach Pete Hoener coached with Seahawks strength and conditioning coach Mike Clark at Texas A&M.
• Head Coach Jim Mora, a native of Los Angeles, CA, coached for the 49ers from 1997-03, coaching the secondary from 1997-98 and serving as defensive coordinator from 1999-03 ...  Offensive coordinator Greg Knapp served as the 49ers quality control/offense (1995-97), quarterbacks coach (1998-00) and offensive coordinator from 2001-03 ... Special teams coach Bruce Dehaven served in the same capacity for the 49ers from 2000-02 ... Defensive coordinator John Marshall coached for the 49ers from 1989-98, coaching the defensive line from 1989-93, the linebackers from 1994-96 and as defensive coordinator from 1997-98 ... Offensive assistant/assistant special teams coach Chris Beake coached for the 49ers in the same position on defense in 1999, as a defensive assistant from 2000-02 and as an offensive assistant in 2003 ... Offensive line coach Mike Solari was the tight ends/assistant offensive line coach for the 49ers from 1992-1996.

Players
49ERS-WASHINGTON CONNECTIONS: WR Jason Hill attended Washington State ... DB Dashon Goldson attended the University of Washington.

SEAHAWKS NOR CAL CONNECTIONS - S C.J. Wallace is a native of Sacramento, CA ... RB Justin Forsett played at UC-Berkeley.

PLAYERS: 49ers LB Patrick Willis played at Mississippi with Seahawks C Chris Spencer.  49ers RB Frank Gore played at Miami with Seahawks CB Kelly Jennings.

Series Highlights
Matchups: 20
Series Record: Seahawks lead series 11-9
49ers Home Record vs. Seahawks: Seahawks lead series 3-6
First Meeting: 9/26/76, 49ers win, 37-21, at Seattle
Last Meeting: 10/26/08, Seahawks win, 34-13, at San Francisco
Current Streak: Lost 1
Longest 49ers Win Streak: 3 (11/25/85-12/8/91)
Longest Seahawks Win Streak: 6 (10/12/03 | 12/11/05)
Most 49ers Points: 38 (9/25/88): 38-7, at Seattle
Most Seahawks Points: 42 (11/7/04), 42-27 at San Francisco
49ers Shutouts: None
Seahawks Shutouts: Two Times: Last (11/12/07), 24-0 at Seattle 1-0

SEATTLE 34, SAN FRANCISCO 13
At San Francisco, CA, October 26, 2008

The Seahawks beat the 49ers on two fullback swing passes that went for TDs and also returned an INT for a score in a 34-13 victory over the San Francisco 49ers in Mike Singletary’s debut as head coach. Seattle CB Josh Wilson scored on a 75-yard INT return, and Seattle FB Leonard Weaver scored on TD passes of 43 and 62 yards to give the 49ers their fifth straight loss. QB J.T. O’Sullivan lost a fumble early in the game and then threw the INT that was returned for a TD before being replaced by backup QB Shaun Hill at the end of the first half. Both of his turnovers happened inside Seattle territory.

Down 3-0 early in the game, O’Sullivan connected with TE Delanie Walker for a 53-yard gain to the Seattle 21-yard line. The 49ers moved to the 6-yard line when O’Sullivan fumbled on a sack. The ball was recovered by DE Patrick Kerney, who raced to the San Francisco 27-yard line to set up a Seahawks FG and a 6-0 first quarter lead. The Seahawks extended their lead to 13-0 early in the second quarter before the 49ers answered with a FG to make it 13-3 midway through the second quarter. The 49ers were driving inside Seattle territory and were faced with a 4th-and-4 situation from the 29-yard line with 44 seconds to play in the first half. With two time outs remaining the 49ers elected to try to convert on fourth-down, but O’Sullivan’s pass was picked off and returned for a TD to make it 20-6 at the break.

Hill completed 15 of 23 attempts for 173 yards with one TD in relief.  On his first drive in the second half, he took the team on a 14-play, 56-yard drive that ended in a 40-yard FG to close the gap to 20-6. On the ensuing series, Seattle QB Seneca Wallace completed a short pass to Weaver that resulted in a 43-yard TD to put the Seahawks in front, 27-6, heading into the final quarter. A two-yard TD pass from Hill to WR Jason Hill closed the gap to 27-13 early in the fourth quarter, but Weaver sealed the Seattle win with a 62-yard TD on a swing pass from Wallace with six minutes to play for a 34-13 win.

2009 Statistics

49ERS (rank) SEAHAWKS (rank)
1-0 (t-1st NFCW) Record 1-0 (t-1st NFCW)
20.0 (t-16th) Points per game 28.0 (6th)
203.0 (29th) Total Offense 446.0 (6th)
21.0 (32nd) Rushing Offense 167.0 (6th)
182.0 (22nd) Passing Offense 279.0 (7th)
31:37 (t-13th) Possession Avg 32:27 (12th)
16.0 (12th) Points allowed/gm 0.0 (1st)
299.0 (15th) Total Defense 247.0 (8th)
40.0 (6th) Rushing Defense 77.0 (t-12th)
259.0 (22nd) Passing Defense 170.0 (9th)
3 (t-9th) Sacks 3 (t-9th)
49.1 (9th) Punting Avg (Gross) 53.2 (4th)
+1 (t-8th) Turnover Differential -2 (t-26th)

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Should be a good game

I picked the Seahawks to win the division by just beating out the Niners but I wouldn’t be surprised if it were the other way around.

You could make a case that shellacking the 49ers took last year was the turning point for the team. Ever since that night they’ve played respectable football.

Mora and Knapp have been hailed as boring and vanilla by some Niners fans I notice. I know it’s only one play but they did something Mike Holmgren ignored forever.

Off-topic but being a Bay Area boy first (East Bay) and all….is Newark still the wasteland that it used to be when I was growing up in the 90s?

"[Aaron] Curry is not a good pass-rusher" - Fearless Frog, 4/25/2009

by SSreporters on Sep 16, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, SSreporters I'm from the East Bay

And no, Newark isn’t a wasteland like it used to be. It’s pretty similar to Fremont and Union City.

by aerozeppelin on Sep 16, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I frequent Union City a lot

Haven’t been to the Bay Area since 2001 so that must have been an amazing turnaround that side of 84.

I looked at Hayward on Google Street View. Holy crap their downtown completely changed.

"[Aaron] Curry is not a good pass-rusher" - Fearless Frog, 4/25/2009

by SSreporters on Sep 16, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes, it's quite nice there now.

49er faithful since July 11, 1985

by J2daZ on Sep 16, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey they're runnin the see pu$$Y

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't worry

I’m sure it sounded good in your head.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sea cat, right?

LOL

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I see

When you wrote “see” you meant “sea” and when you meant “cat” you wrote a naughty word that site decorum prevented you from writing.

Ha ha ha! Oh gosh that’s funny! That’s really funny! Do you write your own material? Do you? Because that is so fresh.

/Stewie Griffin

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know don't sweat the technique

I don’t have enough room on the sac!!

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure that's also a clever retort

Maybe some day you could explain it to me in English.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you don't understand that, i'M SORRY

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder you got banned from Field Gulls

"[Aaron] Curry is not a good pass-rusher" - Fearless Frog, 4/25/2009

by SSreporters on Sep 17, 2009 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The stage has been set at great magnitude.

This will definitely be a challenge to niner defense, and offense. Jimmy Raye, mike Sing, and Shaun Hill will have the fans nipping at their hills if turnovers or ineffectiveness cause us to lose this game.

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 8:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Both teams struggled last year"

Sure, both teams struggled in 2008. Only one of the two struggled in 2007, 2006, 2005 and 2004 as well.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Woa!!!

Why stop there if you want to quote history, one team dominated this division for a decade. So the other team needs to catch up, if their fans want to quote history. Both teams struggled? One team struggled and the other team was pitiful bolstering a 4 win 12 loss record like the Cards of old!!!

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa, even

The point I was trying to make was that one team has been consistently bad for 4-5 years while another had one bad year due to injuries after a string of (recent) solid playoff performances. I’m sure that even you could understand that the two are qualitatively different.

I’m not going to write-off the Niners as contenders for the division title this year, but they haven’t shown they can be .500 team since Garcia was the QB.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

But prior to the emergence the Seahawks were barely a .500 franchise

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoa even more

The Seahawks are just as banged up as they were last year and the run game stinks just as bad as it did last year. Shaun Alexander was a big part of WHY you guys were winning.

It will be a TRUE test for you to play against a DECENT defense on the road this week

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shaun Alexander wasn't a factor in 2006 and 2007?

He was a total bum in 2007.

And our run game stinks? How many yards did Gore put up last weeks on how many carries? How many yards did Jones put up?

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait wait wait

To clarify…How many yards did Jones put up against the RAMS? The Rams couldn’t even beat Florida State this year (obviously joking) BUT it’s not like he played against an even average D last week. How many yards rushing did Jones have last year??? My guess probably the same amount that he will this year.

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones had 4.4 YPC last year with 158 carries

Last week he had 117 yards on 19 attempts. That’s about 4 times as many yards as Gore on 3 fewer carries.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wha wha wha

He had over 600 yards and 2 TD’s

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AND

I can’t believe you just compared Julius Jones to Frank Gore…how many 1000+ yard season has Jones had? All of Gore’s have been

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Jones had Morris' carries last year he would have had a 1000 yard run

This year we have a better implementation of the ZBS and won’t have to worry about 8 men in the box as much because we have healthy receivers.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just

proved in that comparison with Jones and Gore was silly, Gore didn’t NEED another running back to get his numbers. Plus he did it with a ghostly offensive line. All I’m saying is give credit when credit is due.

I’m not afraid to

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gore isn't a bad RB, but Jones is pretty underrated

He put up pretty good numbers behind a tattered O-line with no passing game to threaten the defense. He should get more carries this year and put up respectable numbers.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice 1.8 ypc

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Sep 16, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on...

One game? 3 1000yd seasons and youre going knock him on one game?

by agchee on Sep 16, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus

I never said Jones was a bad back. I think he is efficient and can get the job done. Just don’t think he is among the top in the league.

by agchee on Sep 16, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

against the Rams

It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.

by 49erLou on Sep 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, those guys aren't very good

You spend too much time on the field with them and the taint of failure sticks to you.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And? I'm not sure what that has to do with anything

Today’s Seahawks include many of the players from the 5-year playoff run. I’m not sure if any current 49er player has been to the playoffs as a 49er (correct me if I’m wrong).

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean

that started out as a Niner and are still on the team…or just in general?

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The 49ers as currently constructed have little to no resemblance to

The players are different, the FO is different and the owners are different. The only thing that ties them together is the laundry. It doesn’t make sense to compare them to the Superbowl-winning teams of the past.

I’m not going to say that today’s Niner’s are a playoff caliber team (its too early to tell), I just think it makes no sense to say they’re great because Steve Young once wore red and gold.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When

did I say they were great or anywhere near being the types of teams they were in the 80’s and early 90’s? I realize that some people may do that, but I realize that this is a new season and a new team. Anything can happen… I think the Falcons and Dolphins proved that last year, right?

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I was responding to rlott#42 in the beginning
Why stop there if you want to quote history, one team dominated this division for a decade. So the other team needs to catch up, if their fans want to quote history.

You’re right in that anything can happen in the NFL.

As a Seahawk fan, you get used to fans of other teams (like the Cowboys) bringing up 20-year old Superbowl victories when talking about how the Seahawks suck.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every

season is a new season…

Unless you play for the Lions

but you do have to admit that you all have alot of injuries again this year. Your O-line is hurting, you just had another LB go down last week didn’t you? And I’m not sure if they’re healthy yet because I dont follow your team that much, but your secondary was dinged up before the season too. There could be even more that I’m not aware of

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Leroy Hill looks to be out until the middle of the season

Luckily, we’ve got some decent depth at LB. Hill was out after the first quarter and Tatupu (who’ll play next week) sat out the second half and we still shutout the Rams. The next guys in the rotation, Herring and Hawthorne, should over a mix of good coverage and hard hitting. Herring had a pretty good hit on SJax last week that must have rattled some fillings.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You brought up the past five seaswons since yhey were good for your team

You dip in the past go further, when seattle wasn’t (site decorum).
Now if you don’t wanna go back further than last year we didn’t draft top 5 this year

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some for ya

Eric Heitmann, Arnaz Battle, Issac Bruce, Brian Jennings, Brandon Jones, Barry Sims, Justin Smith, Abrayo Franklin, Takeo Spikes, Jeff Ulbrich, Dre Bly, Michael Lewis, Allen Rossum, Mark Roman

We obviously have a very young team so we may not have 90% of our roster with playoff exp like the Patriots or something but to answer your question, YES, we do have some exp and even better alot of players who are hungry for that exp

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, many of the 49ers have been to the playoffs with other teams

We still have no idea if the current 49ers team is playoff caliber.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

Just like I told many of my Cardinal fan buddy’s last week… We’ll just let the scoreboard do the talking at the end of the game once the clock hits 0.00

Good luck to you and your team this week

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I thought the game wasn't going to be as difficult as I expect

I’d offer good luck to your team. I think it will be a closely-fought defensive battle and hope we all make it through healthy.

And thanks for the chance at some reasoned pregame trash talking.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

oops

fooch just after the break you said 49ers and Cardinals connections…guessing you meant Seachickens? Good article. This is HUGE game for Niners.

by hudd07 on Sep 16, 2009 9:48 AM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Whoever wins this one

will have its fans doing cartwheels and embracing strangers in the street.

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Sep 16, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Local Connection +1

I played against Seneca Wallace in HS here in Sacramento. We would have won too if my tight end wouldn’t have dropped that two point conversion! I’m over it… I think. Wallace was pretty awesome back then.

Tinman

by Tinman17 on Sep 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome at ISU and should have had heisman "consideration"

They had a big win at FSU!

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

John Marshall is the D-Coordinator for your Bay brethren now...

Overall a great analysis, but you are going to lose a lot of credibility not knowing the opponents D-Coordinator while doing a game analysis

by Tasha Salad on Sep 16, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is your name pronounced tossa salad??

LOL

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by rlott#42 on Sep 16, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Was feeling creative this morning

by Tasha Salad on Sep 16, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice Break Down

Seahawk troll here =) At a quick this break down seems for the most part fair an unbiased, one small point of clarification, Jim Marshall was fired this off season, (thankfully) and is now the DC in cOakland. Gus Bradly is now the Seahawks DC.

This should be a good game, big question will be answered by the defenses. Can we keep Gore in check, and can your defense pressure Hasselbeck, and not be gouged for 60 yards by our running game. This game will go a long in showing which team is for real this season.

I love me a good defensive battle, which this should be.

Beer, its not just for breakfast anymore.

by Dougula on Sep 16, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a big game.

With all the banter going back and forth between 9ers fans and Seahawks fan, I’ll be really interested to see if the 9ers defense is as dominant as they looked in week 1. And if Shaun Hill is as good as 9ers fans think he is.

by LantermanC on Sep 16, 2009 11:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not all of us...

For the record, not all NIners fans are huge supporters of Hill and think he’s ‘good.’

If he keeps getting the job done, though, he’ll definitely add some groupies.

by Young_To_Rice on Sep 16, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hill

IS good. People will see… AND if he’s getting the job done, why (as a Niners fan) would you not support him…or become a “groupie” as you called it.

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

8-3.

Hopefully, this time next week it’s 9-3.

by Bob On The Coast on Sep 16, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rankings

The rankings above are nothing but smoke in mirrors…

It shows that the Seahawks played the Rams (at HOME for the season opener) and that the Niners played the Cards (NFC Champs AWAY).

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

so true and obvious

why isnt everyone takung that into consideration. Our defense is awsome!

by dalien82 on Sep 16, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow Drew

You hide your Captain Obvious cape well! I didn’t even notice you fly in. ;-)

by Tasha Salad on Sep 16, 2009 11:43 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHA

They’re attached to the article, so I had to say something

by Drew K on Sep 16, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't wait

to see another immobile quarterback get that sour, pissed off look on their face when they can hit, hurried, sacked, and intercepted by the niner’s defense…
hassleback may be a tinier bit mobile than warner..but still a pocket passer…the interesting thing is our run defense since Sing took over and as evidenced by our previous game is very strong..looks like we’ll have to be prepared for seattle’s trick playbook.
I have to give hass. credit though i saw some of this td throws and they were precise and on the money as well as strong..
should be an interesting game…if only our running game would get running I think it would help tremendously..

by 11allstar on Sep 16, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

More 49ers/Seahawks connections

Seattle fan calling himself Fearless Frog trolls the 49ers message boards all the time.

by bignerd on Sep 16, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He just does it because he loves you

He’s like a 6-year old girl throwing rocks on the playground trying to get your attention.

by ninjasocks on Sep 16, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about me?

Bay Area native from birth and lived there for several years and whammo I’m in the PNW.

"[Aaron] Curry is not a good pass-rusher" - Fearless Frog, 4/25/2009

by SSreporters on Sep 17, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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