The "You were right, I was wrong" thread
by ninjasocks on Sep 20, 2009 4:02 PM PDT
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PrintI spent a long time talking trash here and the Niners proved my words wrong. I was expecting a difficult, physical, close matchup, not the blowout the Niners brought. Thanks for putting up with hosting the influx of FG visitors this week and our incessant trash talking. You guys were right, we were wrong and I'm back here to take my lumps. To start things off, here are a couple of ways I was wrong:
- Frank Gore absolutely tore up a Seahawks run D I though was strong.
- The Niners' defense brought the pressure, played physical and stuffed the run. The Niners' secondary shut down what I thought to be a pretty potent WR corps. The Seahawks D gave up huge runs up the gut, a ton of short passes and way too many conversions on 3rd and long.
- Shaun Hill was a better QB than I thought he was. He played his game a lot better than Hasselbeck did.
- Vernon Davis played a better game than John Carlson.
So once again, congratulations. I hope the next time the Niners and Seahawks meet, the game is more competitive.
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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Wow you have a bigger pair than FF
But nevertheless, I must rant and rave cuz the seabrauds were toasted and roasted.
AKA.............Optimist Prime
Banned in 13 comments from the Gulls and I am proud!!
You are banned from Field Gulls.
Take that back he manned up to the fullest!!
"Catchin a ride on the Muthaship" Optimist Prime is just the co-pilot!
"Go Sing GO"
X's and O's? don't need 'em. Perrenial all pro's? just stat guys, not important!
Culture of Winning? Can take you places, especially while hitting people in the mouth!!
Thanks
Appreciate you taking the loss like a man. Until those closing moments, the 49ers offense was definitely concerning enough (Gore aside) that I was concerned the Seahawks could stay in it. But the 49ers defense stepped up big time in this game.
Yep
I’m planning on throwing in a mention for it in the Golden Nuggets tomorrow morning. It took 27 months to get the first million and 6 months to get the second million. Really psyched about that.
by David Fucillo on Sep 26, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Tough luck Ninjasocks.
Sorry about all of us who were claiming that PW would take out Hasselbeck. Hopefully he can recover and compete.
Thanks for taking your bruises.
The Cake is a Lie.
by Sultan_of_Seitan (formerly Deific16) on Sep 20, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions
Firstly, TVP > Seitan.
Secondly, I agree wholeheartedly, though Wallace did fairly well in place of Hasselbeck. I wish the ’Hawks the best with recovery time!
TVP tastes like hamburger, seitan tastes like shoe leather
While we like Seneca as a backup QB, no one wants their backup QB to start.
Yeah, but...
“Sultan of Textured Vegetable Protein” just doesn’t quite have the same ring too it.
The Cake is a Lie.
by Sultan_of_Seitan (formerly Deific16) on Sep 20, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah,
we wouldnt have trash-talked about Patrick Willis injuring Matt Hasselbeck if we had known it was actually going to happen. now we just look like insensitive jerks.
I take full responsibility for my irresponsibility.
I did think...
it was a clean play. It’s football. No (intentional) harm, no foul. If he didn’t want to risk the injury, he should have slid.
I did think, however, on an earlier scramble when he did go feet first and was hit a little that a flag could have been called. I don’t know that it would have been a great call, but I’m curious if you guys saw that and thought the same thing or if I was just wearing “Hawk blinders.”
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No helmet hit...
Not sure about the earlier scramble. But on the other one, if he had lead with his helmet, I would be first to admit how bad a hit it was and would definitely deserve a flag. But Willis lead with his shoulder and I think just trying to keep him out of the endzone.
I think I know the play you're talking about
I think it was a good no-call, the guys kind of fell on him as he was going into his slide, but at the time I was also worried a flag might come out, so it could have gone either way. But hey, I was in the 3 rows from the back of the upper deck, so it’s not like I had the best view
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Yeah, that's about...
my take on it. I do know this, though… if they would have called it on a Seahawk player there I would have been pissed at the player not the official. Mainly I was just curious if anyone else saw it and thought maybe the Niners got lucky.
You’re still defending Rich Aurilia?!? You wont get much support from any of us in the PNW. Ugh.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 21, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
only because I have to
since he’s my adopted player on McCovey Chronicles.
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Yeah, I don't think it was intentional
Matt made a stupid, risky move and Willis was just trying to make a play.
Pisses me off, too...
He would have only been a foot shorter on progress had he gone feet first.
Sigh.
Oh well. Thank goodness Willis isn’t a dirty player, though, or Hass could have really gotten hurt there.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the concern
Matt looked really bad coming off the field (and then collapsing) but it looks like he may have rib problems rather than back problems. Hopefully he’ll be back on the field soon.
I Agree
I did cringe when Hasselbeck went down. Even as rivals i don’t want to see an opposing starting QB down and out like that, especially one with class. One saving grace is that it wasn’t a dirty hit by Willis that was all in the physicality and emotion of the game.
by nocal81(Vincent) on Sep 21, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions
thanks ninjasocks
classy move. No hard feelings, I like to think most of the trash talk was all in good fun. Hopefully Hass’ injury isn’t too serious and good luck on the rest of the season (until week 13 that is)
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
He beat me to it...
I was going to make basically the same post.
One thing I hope you all remember, and I was taught this a long time ago. I apologize for bringing up things from my world/life, as one of your posters has apparently felt I was bragging by doing so, but that is not the case.
I was fortunate enough to play HS hoops for a great program in WA state, a program that had tradition and class. We modeled our program after two professional teams, the LA Lakers and the SF FortyNiners. We always saw the Niners in the NFL as being on a level that we aspired to back then. (I’m class of ’93 in HS, so I was around for your absolute prime years.)
Anyway, one of the first things our coach taught us as we were winning with frequency was to “be gracious in victory, and humble in defeat.”
I personally hate humble, but today, I’ll have a slice of that pie.
You won your home game vs. the Hawks.
If you are going to win the West, that’s a requirement. If you are going to compete, it’s still the requirement.
You are SUPPOSED to win against the Hawks at home. But you didn’t just win, you kicked our asses.
Yes, you won against the Hawks minus Hasselbeck, Mebane, Tatupu, Hill, Sean Locklear, not to mention Tru and Big Walt. Incredibly sweet win for you. However, and this is the nature of the NFL, and why we are all fans despite those losses—- we still have some solace knowing we get a rematch at home with the hope of having most if not all of those guys for the rematch.
I’m not making excuses through injury. The Niners won. Frank Gore broke two HUGE runs, and the general flow and momentum of the game definitely favored your team. And Shaun Hill played better than I had anticipated. I’m not yet a believer, but I’ll put it this way— he’s on the waiver wire in one of my fantasy leagues, and I’ve officially put the “watch list” flag on him.
HOWEVER, if this game makes you feel confident that the division is yours, well, enjoy that feeling while it lasts. I live in Denver right now, and at 2-0 with wins against the Bengals (on the luckiest play of the decade) and the lowly Browns, there are Bronco fans that seems to think they are “for real” this year.
It’s a long year.
Enjoy the win. But be ready, you still have to come to our house, and you’ve got a hungry and rejuvenated Arizona team licking its chops for a rematch.
It’s gonna be a long year, may the best team win. Right now, you have a MONSTROUS head start. I’m hopeful we can catch up. I’m sure the 894 living breathing “hardcore” Cardinal fans are hoping the same….
Nice work Niners, enjoy the win!!!!
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions
I hope you're not tryint to compare us to the Broncos....
We have won our games more decisively and against much better teams.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 20, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, you won against the Hawks minus Hasselbeck, Mebane, Tatupu, Hill, Sean Locklear, not to mention Tru and Big Walt. Incredibly sweet win for you. However, and this is the nature of the NFL, and why we are all fans despite those losses—- we still have s
Sounds like a HUGE excuse to me and you seem to be pretty soar. We have a small lead in the West, ad yes we are enjoying it. But that team eaarned both wins!!
AKA.............Optimist Prime
Banned in 13 comments from the Gulls and I am proud!!
You are banned from Field Gulls.
But the Broncos
Beat the Bengals on a miracle and they beat the lowly browns who seem to be this year’s Lions.
You kids still want to trade for Brady Quinn?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 20, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I'm SORE. Of course I am.
However, it isn’t an excuse. Niners kicked ass.
But, we do have a couple chips left for the big pot rematch. 1) it’s at Seattle. 2) we can hope to be healthier.
Again, NOT an excuse. HOPE for next time is not the same as an excuse for what happened. What happened was the better team today won the game. I’m hoping over the next few weeks we become a stronger better team…
And yes, you definitely earned both wins. Two Divisional wins is big, particularly since one was away.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll be looking forward to it
Kick Cicago’s A(site decorum) next week, I can’t stand their fans. Yeah I’m from the midwest and an avid Packers, bears, and cowboys hater. Favorite Seahawk Kennedy and Largent!!
AKA.............Optimist Prime
Banned in 13 comments from the Gulls and I am proud!!
You are banned from Field Gulls.
Well...
at this point that’s debatable.
I’m not sure if we’re better than Cincy. Ugh. I just threw up in my mouth for typing that.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Hasselbeck, Tatupu, Locklear all were injured during the game
the Seahawks were not with out these players until after the game began. Tatupu was knocked out in the first quarter, Hasselbeck right before the end of the half, and Locklear was hurt somewhere along the first half I believe. I know all three played, and were injured during play. The Niners prepared to face these guys, and they ended up hurt, it’s football.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 20, 2009 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Tatupu..
was a gametime “hopefully he can play” decision. He wasn’t anywhere near healthy when play started.
And again, I’m not making excuses. The Niners kicked ass, and were the better team.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions
There are probably a number of us...
That have had success in athletics at a higher level than HS. There was no offence taken by your comment it was just a trash talk fest and we all participated. Socks , Frog and yourself should be commended for coming back and taking your lumps. I wouldn’t have looked forward to it if it was the other way around.
by Natural Red on Sep 21, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool.
It was a fun week, outcome aside, lol.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 21, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
your an idiot
just thought i would remind you, your an idiot.. as proved by your 1000 word essay. whats next your manifesto??
J GO
by youngbuckeroo on Sep 22, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
You’re, you’re, a thousand times you’re.
Except that last one. That one’s fine.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Another case..
of someone insulting another’s intelligence/wit/personage, all the while doing it in a grammatically incorrect way.
Ironically not only does this automatically nullify the insult but goes one step beyond and the insulter essentially assimilates the insult.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 23, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
And hey
When in doubt, don’t use the conjunction. “You are” is a great way to avoid spelling “you’re” wrong.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 23, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand how people have trouble with this
Grammar is sooooo simple.
It’s 3rd grade stuff.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Hah!
It wasn’t the one I was an English teacher at, that is for certain.
And chik, I agree, although I will rarely make the mistake myself. However, their is a difference between making a mistake occasionally and pulling something like 4 mistakes in one sentence.
And yes, I made that there on purpose.
Its they’re for grammarians to view for humor.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 23, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually...
I think it’s mainly laziness and a lack of care and attention.
I find it ironic when called out they almost always call us ridiculous for pointing out the lack of literacy in their writings.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 23, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
+1 Classy
We are all part of the NFC West and it feels good to lead. But outside of the division match ups, I hope the Seahawks do well to help out the division. So good luck the rest of the season (except in week 13).
Same.
I want to see 3 11 win teams in the NFC West.
I honestly don’t know if it is even mathematically possible, but dammit, I want to see it!
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure it is
AFC East had two 11 won teams last year plus one 9 game winner. It just requires three teams to have solid records outside of the division. That would certainly force the commish and networks to pay attention to the west of the Rockies teams.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Whoops, didn't see this.
My bad ninjasocks.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
That front 7 looked fabulous
AKA.............Optimist Prime
Banned in 13 comments from the Gulls and I am proud!!
You are banned from Field Gulls.
Still doesn't excuse Curry's questionable play
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 20, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I was certainly disappointed in his performance...
But I still like his upside.
This was his “Welcome to the NFL son!” game…
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
He's got a bright future
Perhaps you’ll trade him so the 49ers don’t have to face him for the next 10 years?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 20, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't even get me started about Curry.
v_v
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 21, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
this is what happens when you have too much faith in rookies
better to just let them hold out and never sign, then there are fewer overblown expectations about their performance
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
I’ll always like Aaron Curry even if he never lives up to his potential because curry is delicious.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll always like Crabtree
even if he never signs, because trees are pretty and fun to climb and crabs are delicious.
actually not
/vegetarian
Still defending Rich Aurilia, and the Niners' classic unis
Oh my god, dude, you have no idea how delicious crab is. Is imitation crab vegetarian? Because it’s not a horrible simulation of real crab.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If I'm not mistaken...
… imitation crab is usually some kind of cheap fish turned into a paste and tinted to look like crab meat. So depending on what kind of “vegetarian” you are, it might be okay.
correct on production...
in general. Although like most processed meats you wouldn’t want to see the process and eat it right then/there.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 21, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
imitation crab
Is disgusting IMO
I only eat real crab.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 21, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, there’s no comparison whatsoever to real crab, but I don’t think the imitation stuff is disgusting at all.
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 21, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
It made me vomit when I tasted it
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 21, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Never had much faith in him and this game basically validated my concerns.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 24, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
I thought Seahawks fans were showering him with praise before the game and saying that he was going to single-handedly stop Frank Gore.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 24, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I did too!
I remember
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a battle going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runin on 49er koolaid!!
Some.
In fact, most. But I despised drafting him since we had a far better player in Julian Peterson we got rid of for reasons that still don’t make much sense.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions
$$$
Or does Curry make more money than Peterson already?
I never like Peterson, and I’m glad he’s gone.
:)
Either way, who else were you going to draft?
Supposedly the best player available falls to No. 4, you pretty much had to pick him…..just like we had to pick Mike.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 26, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Curry makes more than Peterson.
I personally didn’t even think Curry was the best LB in the draft.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 26, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Who's better?
Scott McKillop?
lol
But seriously, who?
The guy the Rams got?
or the USC LBs?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Frog has been anti-Curry
since day1 for any reason and rationale available.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 29, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
And he will be wrong, in years to come!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
Frog
apparently got banned at FieldGulls for going off on Curry so often.
So, I don’t know if that makes you feel better about getting banned, but apparently he “trolled” his home site to the point of destruction.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 30, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
That has more to do with the fact BrianL is a goddamn nazi who's even less fun than Eric Mangini.
I actually had a valid point.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps...
except for the Mangini part.
I wasn’t there and didn’t see the post-thread.
Did you get warned, or just banned, or maybe a suspension or something?!?
Will you be allowed back?
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 30, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't get it do you?
John Morgan already gave you a 1 week ban (which I asked him about) because you spouted your stupid Curry bullcrap on an article that had nothing to do with him.
You decided to just do what already pissed people off over and over again and that was the final straw. I even flagged you once.
Instead of realizing he’s a rookie and will make some mistakes, you ignored the fact that he forced a fumble that could’ve won us the game. Why? To piss people off and to harp your own baseless agenda.
Dude it’s nothing personal but you broke everyone’s threshold and that ban was coming.
I got the banhammer from FG twice, and deservedly so for being a panicky hothead, but instead of calling a comment mod a nazi I decided to do something productive and do some “Ask SSreporters” stuff on other blogs for Seahawks opposition.
This is the first time you’ve logged on since you were banned and now you’re bitching about Curry on Niners Nation.
You know what you did was blatant trolling and bam you’re gone. FF you asked for it basically with the continuous threadjacking.
The QB class of 2010 looks deep next season.
Gee, forgive me for talking about Curry's mistakes in a postgame thread about
a tight game in which we lost. Christ. In any case, I still disagree that he certainly did not deserve a game ball.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
And I wasn't going 'ololol Curry sux fire ruskell a-hyuck'
I pointed out two plays that led to touchdowns that appeared to be Curry’s responsibility. You can disagree with that, but to say that it’s blatant trolling is a stretch. Forgive me if I don’t at least expect a sound oppen-field wrap up tackle by the 4th overall pick when that’s listed as one of his best strenghts.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
So you irritated some people because you have a strong opinion abou a player?
I’ll keep my comments to myself about FG, but Fooch, is the man!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
No, it wasn't just did that.
I probably did it more often than people would liked me to, but I still think I have every right to scrutinize the 4th overall pick who was allegedly the best ‘pro-ready’ prospect, especially at a position which is basically like the RB of defense.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
stop banning him
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 7, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions
oh how the mighty (or should i say Fearless?) have fallen.
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
So why pin-point his?
HE IS A ROOKIE!!!! Are you expecting a 10 year pro in there? I hope you realize Julian Peterson is on the downside of his career and we’re building for the future. I SERIOUSLY hope you weren’t thinking that we’d get Lawrence Taylor-like CAREER stats in 3 games.
Curry has made 15 solo tackles in 3 games and got us a sack that would’ve won us the game, which once again you decided to ignore. He does deserve a gameball because he made big plays.
It is blatant trolling because even when we were smashing the Rams you had to bash Curry. Even when you’re joking about it it’s annoying because more often than not I actually think you believe the crap you write.
I don’t see the first TD as Curry’s fault at all.
You can’t stand him. Just admit it. You point out the mistakes he makes and intentionally choose to avoid the game-changing play. If Deon Grant and Travis Fisher don’t play like Keystone Cops and we win that game what would’ve been your reaction? Never mind stupid question I know what will happen.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2009/9/27/1057507/aaron-curry-wraps-around-left-end
This comment characterizes you perfectly.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2009/9/24/1053193/tebow-struggles-with-nfl-style#21726386
While I’m glad you took it in jest I know someone had to say it. Look at John and Brian’s comments and tell me they’re not implying something that you need to stop.
Saying he was disappointing and was responsible for 2 TDs is not even constructive feedback because it’s a microcosm of his performance.
Stop the madness. Enjoy Niners Nation and other neat SB Nation NFL sites.
Sorry I had to do this NN guys but I can’t hold this one back.
The QB class of 2010 looks deep next season.
no need to apologize
We’re cool over here!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
"HE IS A ROOKIE!!!! Are you expecting a 10 year pro in there? I hope you realize Julian Peterson is on the downside of his career and we’re building for the future."
You don’t build around your future around a coverage LB. You are supposed to draft a franchise cornerstone with a top 5 pick, and instead we get a Wake Forest product who could possibly not even be the best starting LB on the team.
“I don’t see the first TD as Curry’s fault at all.”
Gee, maybe Cory Redding was in charge of Greg Olsen. Then we have far more worrying problems.
You can’t stand him. Just admit it. You point out the mistakes he makes and intentionally choose to avoid the game-changing play. If Deon Grant and Travis Fisher don’t play like Keystone Cops and we win that game what would’ve been your reaction? Never mind stupid question I know what will happen.
I have nothing against Curry personally. I am against drafting a linebacker in the top 5 when we already had a sub-elite one for less money. I was so glad that we didn’t have much of a chance of draftin gCurry because we already had 3 great LBs, but I should have known better that the worst was coming as soon as we traded Julian Peterson for an underachieving DT from the Lions.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Peterson is over 30 isn't he?
Downside of his career. Trade him while he still has value and get a decent DT.
You would’ve berated the Lawrence Taylor pick from the Giants in 1983 if you rooted for them.
You don’t build your future on one draft pick either. We got a future starting guard in Unger who has been solid for 3 games.
We have a linebacker that has made big plays (and of course made his mistakes) and is part of a young and talented corp.
Deon Butler could develop into our next Bobby Engram, assuming Branch gets the boot next season (or any other receiver on the roster that would move Butler up).
THAT is how you build a franchise. Through the whole draft, not one pick that you nitpicked and refuse to acknowledge anything he does right.
Out of curiosity did you get any text explaining why you were banned?
The QB class of 2010 looks deep next season.
You know I agree with Frog
Peterson may have been 30, but he was an absolute BEAST.
As a 49er fan I’m glad to see him go.
I really don’t know if Curry will ever be as good as Peterson.
Guard of the future?
Are you kidding me?
As a fan he has every right to nitpick his team’s draft selections (especially the most important one of them all)
Just because you disagree doesn’t mean you can just make him go away.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's address this point by point.
Downside of his career. Trade him while he still has value and get a decent DT.
Just because he’s 30 doesn’t mean he’s already fallen off the cliff. Especially someone like Peterson who is a true freak of nature and one of the most ridiculously athletic and naturally gifted players in the entire NFL.
He had 5 sacks last season despite not being asked to blitz much in the latter half of the season. And I’m both sure we can agree that John Marshall was a horrible coordinator.
And if Peterson, arguably the best ‘longterm’ player on the team over 30 is on the downside of his career, shouldn’t we have traded Hasselbeck, Walt, and Kerney ages ago? Good lord knows Kerney looks like he’s totally finished/.
You would’ve berated the Lawrence Taylor pick from the Giants in 1983 if you rooted for them.
No, because Taylor was a monster in the NCAA level and was a top-tier pass-rusher. Aaron Curry i snot Lawrence Taylor. Aaron Curry might not even be Derrick Brooks, for heaven’s sake.
You don’t build your future on one draft pick either. We got a future starting guard in Unger who has been solid for 3 games.
Unger is a fine player, but we already knew Walt, Wahle, and Locklear were injury-risks before the draft and now we’re reaping the reward of having Brandon Frye. What if Dwight Freeney were healthy for this Sunday?
We have a linebacker that has made big plays (and of course made his mistakes) and is part of a young and talented corp.
So? Peterson did the same for less money, and we could still have had a top 5 draft pick to use elswhere.
Deon Butler could develop into our next Bobby Engram, assuming Branch gets the boot next season (or any other receiver on the roster that would move Butler up).
Butler has looked great, but if your scenario is true that basically admits Branch was an absolute bust
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Continued...
THAT is how you build a franchise. Through the whole draft, not one pick that you nitpicked and refuse to acknowledge anything he does right.
That’s a bit unfair. I was ecstatic when Ruskell managed to get the Broncos first round pick for peanuts, although it looks more and more we’ll be drafting higher than them anyway if the trend continues./ However, I am not going to unconditionally praise him just because he happens to be our GM. Remember, this is the guy that decided Hutch wasn’t worth franchise tagging, traded a 1st round pick for a guy who’s never had a 1000 yard season, signed Brian Russell. and now signed Colin Cole.
Out of curiosity did you get any text explaining why you were banned?
Thread-jacking and Curry bitching, again.
Or something to that effect.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And in summary...
I think OLB was simply not a need at all, drafting one in the top 5 was lunacy. If we’re lulcky, he becomes as good as Peterson and it’s a wash. We got no better, but we didn’t get much worse besides salary cap ramifications/ If he doesn’t become as good as Peterson, well, just another underperforming Ruskell first round draft pick.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay
Now why did you not ONCE even bother to write something like that on FG?
I bet you if you didn’t say something like “Curry was massively disappointing” and instead gave me what you gave, even though I disagree with it, you would still be there.
The QB class of 2010 looks deep next season.
I have, several times, especially around draft day.
BrianL temporarily banned me then too.
If there is one player in the draft that should be under heavy scrutiny and criticism it’s Curry. The guy was supposed to come in and stabilize the LB corps of whatever team he was drafted to. He was supposed to come in and look like a Pro Bowler from day one. He was supposedly the safest, most pro ready prospect in the draft. For him to perform not just below a Pro Bowl level but poorly is inexcusable. Remember, even the Lions were considering drafting him because of these qualities, as much of an idiotic move that would be.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 2, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Low tolerance over there
If they guy wants to rant about the 1st round draft pick you guys ought to let him.
He spent the entire summer on our board negatively ranting about our last 6 1st round draft picks, even the two good ones! We got plenty of guys who just rant about how awful everything is, many with far less substance.
He does kinda have a point about the Curry/Peterson trade off. You can look at it like the team was just spinning it’s wheels with that logic.
you're kidding?
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
I was more concerned with the fact that everyone rated Curry so highly because of his combine.
He wasn’t considered a first day pick until his senior season. His stats weren’t exactly eye-popping. We got rid of Peterson with the pretense that we didn’t need 3 highly paid linebackers, only to draft a possibly inferior player for even more money. We didn’t improve by drafting Curry and likely got worse.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
You really got banned from FG?
Those guys are terrible….
We let rlott complain about Crabtree all the time.
It seems like they are just trying to create a utopia over there. Where everything SEA does is perfect and cannot be questioned.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems like they are just trying to create a utopia over there. Where everything SEA does is perfect and cannot be questioned.
Like the neon green unis?
They looked better in the concept photos.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
lol no they didn't
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
I kind of like those old Bucs jerseys lol
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
They looked a lot brighter green in real life than they did the photos.
Or maybe it was just the sun.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Or maybe they are just UGLY
Its like if the 9ers ever wore those ass-ugly gold jerseys that the NFL sells off as alternates.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
Nothing wrong with trying to prevent the communty from degrading into the ESPN boards.
But I still feel my points are absolutely valid and I’m not going to support the front office about everything just because I root for the team. An outside linebacker was not going to change our run defense into the NFL’s elite, and nor was making a career-backup DT from a crappy defense into a starter.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Nothing wrong with trying to prevent the communty from degrading into the ESPN boards.
Don’t really want to say much more (as I don’t know anything about the situation), but I’ve never seen you write in any way that resembles a typical ESPN/nfl.com/etc poster. You disagree and tend to make very valid points to support why you do.
That's not the point (and I've been "banned" twice there)
You can question the team. John does it all the time. When you don’t provide any substantial evidence and then beat your own agenda to death on countless threads, including many that have nothing to do with Curry, then you are being a troll.
The QB class of 2010 looks deep next season.
you've been banned twice?
Frog doesn’t seem like the kind of guy that’s just going to complain without backing up his claims.
He has provided plenty of reasons why he doesn’t like the Aaron Curry pick.
Out of curiosity: How many people have been banned from NN?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
"How many people have been banned from NN?"
Not enough :-)
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
"How many people have been banned from NN?"
Not enough :-)
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions
banned
Not a lot. Aside from general spammers, I usually don’t ban people. I do warn folks, but otherwise I’d rather try and work with them to help them become a productive member of the site.
by David Fucillo on Oct 2, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Why not?
Go ahead.
Rant about Curry…..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 21, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup, he played like a rookie out there
Hopefully it was just because it was nerves because it was his first regular season away game and not something that will be repeated.
Mike Wahle(OG), Walter Jones(LT), Chris Spencer(C), Marcus Trufant(CB), Deion Branch(WR), Sean Locklear(OT), Brandon Mebane(DT), Leroy Hill(LB), Lofa Tatupu(LB), Josh Wilson(CB), Justin Griffith(FB), Matt Hasselbeck (QB)
He was afraid of Frank Gore
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 21, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Not making excuses with all those battered players listed above?
But you will banter and rave about any win against anyone. So let me get this straight. You don’t lose because you are outplayed, you only lose because your team can’t stay healthy? And any win gets an extra bolster because your players are hurt? Not gonna say it again but a lot of seahawks fans are acting this way hence some of the names I have spat out. This type of fanmanship happens a lot I’ve made excuses too, blaming the FO can’t be the reason for losing. I will be honest some of your fans are god ones and don’t hang on to the injuries, but those that do complain elsewhere please!
AKA.............Optimist Prime
My Guess? He didn't list those players...
on his sig to come post on this site. That’s for the Hawks site, where we post things like that because… well… because it fits with Seattle. Hell, one of our sports radio stations has adopted “Bittersweet Symphony” as the Seahawks song, and it really seems to fit.
It isn’t an excuse, it’s a “Holy shit, why is this happening to us again?!?!?”
I don’t think any of us came in here and said, “The reason we lost is because of the injuries.” I know I didn’t. I do have the sentiments that it sucks and I believe the outcome would have likely been quite different had the injuries not played a factor. But they did.
And the Niners thumped us.
And that’s the only outcome that matters.
And we’re hopeful we get healthy and kick Niner ass in the comforts of Qwest to take back the NFC West crown.
And you can say whatever you want right now and call it righteous (it isn’t), but it wont impact that hope we have, nor the belief that when healthy we’re the better team.
Nor will it impact the fact that the actual words of the guy you are dogging above had more to do with Aaron Curry playing poorly, and NOTHING to do with your response/attack, which is both unwarranted and unnecessary.
Again, you won.
We acknowledge in this thread and the other, that on 9/20/2009 the San Francisco 49ers were a superior team to the Seattle Seahawks.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 21, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Blah Blah Blah
I heard the excuse plenty enough, so whatever. And since you’re on this site maybe you should adhere to the rules on it. The swearing is not aloud at Niners Nation. The comment had nothing to do with winning or losing and it was posed as a question, and not one to you, but hey you answered. It’s not like I don’t know about the Seahawks at home and we’d rather have you healthy because it’s a challenge to the team. I can’t apologize because you formed an assumption, but it is what it is. So you noticed the header did you read the entire post? If you don’t make excuses, I did reference you in the post. See ya week 13 and 14.
AKA.............Optimist Prime
Jean Cocteau quote
“We must believe in luck. For how else can we explain the success of those we don’t like?”
The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!
Wasn't that the name...
Fletch used when introducing himself to Gail Stanwyck???
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 23, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey FF what's up with Mora ranting like that about Mare?
I thought he was better than Joe the Toe! JK, wasn’t Mora being ridiculous?
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
Yeah.
He apologized afterwards but it was still uncalled for.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Are they going to replace Mare?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably unlikely unless he makes this a habit.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Mora was right though
The kicker is paid to make those field goals. So make the dam field goals. Miss one ok it happens. But 2? You suck.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
2 out of 6.
After the offense continually fails to do anything after getting past midfield and the defense bending over and playing dead once at the most critical drive.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Which is to say that Mare did indeed not do his job,
but neither did most of the team.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks for taking it like a man...
your team got beat (and beat up)…here’s hoping you guys get healthy and stay competitive..yes rlott#42 our line dominated pretty much on both sides…and our secondary made some vicious hits…its good to see us agressive..naysayers watch out for the 49ers!
May a healthy Hasselbeck
be ready for the rematch. No ill will towards the Willis hit, I hope.
by Andrew Davidson on Sep 20, 2009 8:17 PM PDT reply actions
None.
It was clean. I just wish Matty would have slid and not gone for the dive.
Mancrushed. Jake Locker for Heisman 2010.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Sep 20, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm here to eat crow as well.
See, I detest internet trolls who trash talk before the game but magically disappear after wards. That’s what distinguishes merely talking smack in a competitive manner and internet trolling — the ability to be gracious in victory and humble in defeat, as whiskey chainsaw alluded to above.
Some observations:
Shaun Hill was as bad as I thought he’d be.
The hawks run defense was much worse than I expected — Mebane, Hill, and Tatupu of course play a large part in this
The Niners O-line (except their RT) played very well, and made consistent holes for Gore
Nate Clements was very impressive
Patrick Willis played very well — he is not “overrated”
You forgot Spencer and Bly who FF constantly puts down.
Spencer had great coverage on T.J. most of the game.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 20, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
4 receptions for 60 some yards?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 24, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you saying that isn't good coverage?
"Catchin a ride on the Muthaship" Optimist Prime is just the co-pilot!
"Go Sing GO"
X's and O's? don't need 'em. Perrenial all pro's? just stat guys, not important!
Culture of Winning? Can take you places, especially while hitting people in the mouth!!
An 15.5 avg isn't exactly great.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
No TDs
And his two big catches, I believe, came after Hass left. (right?)
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 24, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Wrong.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't matter who was throwing the ball!
It doesn’t matter when you analyze Morgan, Hill, and Davis. Housh has led the league in receptions from 2006 until now. So he was either covered well, or Ocho Cinco helped him become a good receiver statisically!
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a war going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
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Oh, well I remember a big catch he made from a Wallace pass.
But he was well covered by Spencer on a throw that would have been a TD (if caught) early in the game.
I think they did a good job with him and didn’t really allow him to be a factor in the outcome of the game.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 26, 2009 12:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Everyone knows, some just can't believe it!
Med Time!!!!!!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
"Shaun Hill was as bad as I thought he’d be,"
and yet, the 49ers keep winning when he’s under center. How ironic that must be…
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Sep 21, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Wins are not a QB stat.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 24, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
But wins and losses are placed on record for QB's.
Therefore it is a QB stat. Why else would Peyton be celebrated for 119 wins?
"Catchin a ride on the Muthaship" Optimist Prime is just the co-pilot!
"Go Sing GO"
X's and O's? don't need 'em. Perrenial all pro's? just stat guys, not important!
Culture of Winning? Can take you places, especially while hitting people in the mouth!!
Wins are not a goddamn QB stat.
QBs are no more responsible for a win than the receiver who catches the pass, the lineman who blocks, the DE who sacked the opposing QB preventing a 3rd down completion, the DB who batted away a TD pass, etc.
That Vince Young sure must be a great QB huh, him and his .620 winning percentage?
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You didn't answer my question spaz
How is it that Mannings 119th win was celebrated then? Why is there a record kept for QB wins?
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a battle going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runin on 49er koolaid!!
Just because it's stupid doesn't mean it's legitimate.
For example, wins continue to be used as a criteria for deciding Cy Young awards in baseball, even though a lot of whether or not he gets the win is outside the pitcher’s control.
really?
I thought Complete Games were more important?
Zach Greinke should win the AL Cy Young this year, even though he has a lot of losses.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think....
… wins directly correlate to a Cy Young, but it sure does seem like a player needs a minimum amount of them to even be considered.
If they are really good and can finish games...
They should be able to pick up at least 15 wins.
I don’t know how many CGs Greinke threw, but I’m pretty sure he won most of those.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
BTW- Classic!
“I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year.”
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a battle going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runin on 49er koolaid!!
QB's can appear to look bad in a system that doesn't fit them!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
No, they're not
But do you think the 49ers would have won that game with Alex Smith under center?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 24, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course not.
But just because Smith is horrible doesn’t necessarily mean Hill is good.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 25, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Hill has 2 wins this season!!
If Hasselbeck was praised for breaking a HOF QB’s wins at a franchise you’d be siging a different tune!!!
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a battle going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runin on 49er koolaid!!
Alex Smith also has 2 wins this season.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
without playing a down?
That’s obnoxious!
She asked, "why in the club you don't make it percipitate, you know make it rain when you can make it thunderstorm?" I said "why the world needs sun the hood needs funds, there's a war going on and half the battle is guns, how dare I throw it on the floor when people are poor, so I write like edgar allen to restore"
-A3000
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runin on 49er koolaid!!
Okay.
Adam Snyder has 2 wins this season.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 26, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Now you're just being ridiculous!
What is a question? why won’t you answer it?
You didn’t answer my question spaz How is it that Mannings 119th win was celebrated then? Why is there a record kept for QB wins?
Regardless of what YOU think and ANYONE can argue, QB’s wins and losses are RECORDED, so whether you like it or not, Hill has a 9-3 record as as starter, I’m sorry Manning broke the record and not Hasselbeck. It’s okay if your teams QB isn’t mentioned!!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
They aren't.
Wins are a team stat, you’re being an idiot.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 30, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Not quite, everyone knows that teams wins games, however QB's get a stat in the record book. So you're being obnoxious!!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
name-calling
There’s no need to call him an idiot.
by David Fucillo on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
not as the starter
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 27, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He's the best we have
And as Danny proved earlier today.
An average back-up would play better than Shaun Hill.
BUT, we don’t even have an average back-up…..
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Sep 26, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Fearless Frog
I respect your position, and understand where you’re coming from when you say that wins are not a QB stat. But everytime you bring that up, it’s as if you’re ignoring the fact that the 49ers are ACTUALLY winning games… and again… with Hill under center.
And by the way, I’m not sure what you were reading there, but I didn’t say that wins are a QB stat, so I’m not sure why you brought that up
by Waiting4JoshMorgan on Oct 1, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn't Danny say that the Defense and ST are carrying us?
That’s what the stats suggest.
Joe Nedney is 2-1 this season: WOOT!
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 1, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right.
I apologize.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 1, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Wins are kept as a QB stat and losses too!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
No.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 2, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Whether it's a misleading stat or not, they take blame for losses when they don't perform.
It’s the offense or the defense or the QB. And since the NFL decides to keep a stat for their players you should acknowledge it, who cares if you don’t agree with it, it won’t be taken out!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
I'd like for you to show me where wins are recorded as a QB stat, please.
"I wish the Seahawks were back in the AFCW so we didn’t have to face Willis and Gore twice a year."
by Fearless Frog on Oct 2, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
OK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_wins_by_a_starting_quarterback_(NFL)
will you drop it now?
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
Well hearing it by nfl broadcaster isn't enough!
Should I actually locate it on another site when we ALL know that it’s recorded?
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
Maybe?
We should just say that wins are not a reliable QB stat?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Oct 3, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That'll work
We all know it’s bogus to give credit to QB’s for winning. However, I am going to always argue with FF. So it was more about the sake of arguing that I was being so persistant.
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
I'm thinking Shaun
…is going to have his best game yet as a starter in Minnesota.
The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!
Wins are a qb stat now?
He got a win week 2
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
Appreciate your returning to the scene of the crime
And wish you luck going forward, except week 13. Hass or no, I think you beat Chicago. You’ve got a great homefield and Chicago took a physical licking to beat Pittsburgh.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Another crow-eating Seahawk.
Congrats on the win, it was certainly well-earned. Your team simply outplayed us.
Until week 13….
Ninja
you were fearless like the Frog and just as classy now! I take my hat off to you!
Make sure frog is wearing his new avatar! Till our teams meet again, best of luck to yours!
Good man!
I can see our conjoined threads getting better and better as time goes on.
"Bar None!" - William Floyd
one chill cat
way to take a defeat in stride. I watched the game with several Hawk fans. I felt bad for them once Hasselbeck got hurt. I definately shared some empathy for them.
As we were jumping around they were blank faced and pale looking. It feels good to pick up the win agianst a division rival. However, it feels weird that I do not hate the Hawks or Cards. I think I really only wish harm on Green Bay and Dallas.
Get well soon Hawks.
Good...
I really didn’t want to keep thinking you and Frog were assholes.
The problem with the interweb is that it’s impossible to tell just how serious someone is being in their statements. All I ask for in an opposing fan is a dash of reality. Of course we’re all going to be biases for our own teams it just annoys me when someone seems blindly oblivious to the truth.
Glad you weren’t after the win.
My Observations on both sides:
The Seahawks had absolutely awful luck last year with injuries and it cost them an otherwise decent season. 1 year is bad luck, however, 2 years is poor planning. It’s just like the niners trying to replace Jonas Jennings with Marvel Smith. I think the Seahawks should have brought in some better depth for their more injury-prone positions. I like Seneca Wallace a lot (I usually get him in Madden for a back up/running QB role) but he just doesn’t have the QB tools, in my mind, at least yet, to take the hawks where y’all wanna go.
Justin Forsett Looks real good. Didn’t know anything about him before the game, but I’m impressed.
Jordan Babineaux is really, really bad in run support. Go back and rewatch the two long Gore runs and watch Babineaux get blown by from a yard away on both of them.
Your O-line did a pretty good job of containing our rush though I think a lot of it was due to having to play honest in respect to Wallace’s running skills.
Gore is a badass, but not consistently so enough for my tastes.
Raye gets an unfairly bad rap.
Clements is making me eat my words about him only being above average. He’s really coming through so far this season.
Goldson – bought time, but really I think it was only a matter of time.
Right now I’d actually take Davis over Carlson though I think Carlson has a chance to be something special. Davis is just a better worker and blocker enough to make up for his deficiencies in receiving.
And last but not least – Holy Crap! has anyone else noticed that Mark Roman is actually playing really well? I was more right than I was expecting to be when I said he’d do a lot better when not asked to be a full-time starter.
"Mark Roman is actually playing really well"
You’re right. Like most of our DBs, he’s standing out by not standing out. They aren’t making mistakes. He’s doing a solid job in the nickel coming in for Lewis.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I think Roman had 5+ tackles in a part-time role.
He’s a solid player who has great technique and is never out of position. He plays very smart, but he’s just not a risk-taker.
What's most impressive
from what I read, is that those 5 tackles came on 6 “DB plays”
26-Mark Roman: Played in six-DB situations, and did a very nice job with some sure-tackling. Roman had five tackles. He came up to make a nice tackle on Burleson to keep him inbounds late in the fourth.
Unless Maiocco didn’t mention some special teams play, getting the tackle on 5 of your 6 plays is good.
And now I reread that
and realize he meant 6 DBs on the field instead of 6 plays as a DB…. and feel like an idiot.
Classy in defeat = A++.
Thanks for stopping by and making things interesting. When next our teams meet, it may well be a more significant game with final playoff implications. I’m hoping so, anyway. And the Seahawks should have most of their injured players back to make it more competitive. Good luck with your other games and feel free to stop by and shoot the bull.
Nice, classy post
Hopefully you guys can get healthy.
by Brendan Scolari on Sep 24, 2009 2:37 AM PDT reply actions
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