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49ers-Vikings: Fox might not actually care about this matchup

Yesterday afternoon I received the game release for this game from the 49ers.  Every game release includes some of the various announcing teams involved, including the main television crew.  This week the 49ers get the #5 crew of Sam Rosen and Tim Ryan.  Now I realize these guys are all professionals, but really?  I'm not asking for the #1 crew each week and in fact, I don't mind not having Joe Buck and Troy Aikman.

At the same time, I view having the higher announcing crews as a bit of a measure of respect.  For example, this week, the Seahawks and Bears get the #3 Fox announcing crew of Dick Stockton and Charles Davis.  Can somebody tell me why a battle of 1-1 teams, one of whom will likely be starting Seneca Wallace, deserves the "better" announcing crew?  One of the drawbacks (well, one of many) of being a crappy team is getting the less than stellar announcers.  If the 49ers win this week, maybe then they can get some better announcers?

I realize this probably isn't a big deal in the end as long as the 49ers keep winning.  And yet it's still something that has begun to bug me.  Ah, the hassles of turning into a decent team!

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The 49ers have a lot to prove to get back into the mainstream spotlight again. We were pretty close into getting Raider spotlight, that negative no respect jokes on you kind of spotlight.

by Tony C on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fooch I'm glad you too think about this

I actually like Rosen but when I read this was our crew (Sando over at espn posts announcing crews every Tuesday) I too wondered WTF? I’m always glad to not have Buck but I’d think their Favre love mixed with the Bay Area market would get us higher up, especially on a week Fox has the double header.

I read a few years ago that broadcast teams are chosen 2-3 weeks in advance. Know if that’s still true? If so, that tells me Fox expected Seattle to be 2-0 while playing the Chicago market team. I would guess that win or lose we’ll see another low ranked crew (likely Rosen & Ryan as this is their 2nd Niner game so they’re familiar with us) for the Rams game. We’ll know better how we’re viewed when Atlanta comes to town.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I read a few years ago that broadcast teams are chosen 2-3 weeks in advance. Know if that’s still true?

That would absolutely make sense. It provides the broadcasters with 2-3 weeks to plan and get their home situations in order. I’d imagine it also saves the broadcast company thousands of dollars in airline tickets, as they’re always cheaper earlier (except when it gets extremely late).

by sfgfan on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am pretty sure you are right

  If you listened to the announcers during the Niners game near the beginning they mentioned where they will be next week. So at least a week in advance if not 2-3 weeks.

by snowweasel30 on Sep 23, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Buck and Aikman never leave the East coast.

I still believe in Ryan Garko...........

by 49er16 on Sep 23, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Sep 23, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Brilliant.

May the Forsett be with you.

by SSreporters on Sep 23, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also you don’t want Dick Stockton and Charles Davis calling the game. They are both horrible. I really can’t complain about Rosen and Ryan.

I still believe in Ryan Garko...........

by 49er16 on Sep 23, 2009 11:39 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think they are anticipating a blowout.

by Travis F on Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well...

The 9ers ARE looking better.

by Smithisstilltheanswer on Sep 23, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dick Stockton

Actually I think Stockton stinks. So we aren’t missing anything. He makes to many mistakes. He often is so busy hearing himself speak he doesn’t say what has happened on the field, ie penalty. As a side light who likes all these sideline interviews. I tune in for the football game. Not to hear some college drop out misuse the english language.

by 49er faithful on Sep 23, 2009 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they do

I believe the network execs assign crews based on percentage of the country that will see the game. Last week the lowest Fox crew did the AZ-Jax game. Defending conf champ but two small markets, including the smallest being blacked out. One way to assess how each network feels about a specific game is to find out which one they show in the LA market.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 23, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're probably on the right track with that

but to be honest…I could care less for all of them. I think Fox has the worst group of commentators out of any of the other channels that broadcast NFL games. And I really really cannot stress enough how much I dislike Buck and Aikman… So anyone except them is fine with me

by Drew K on Sep 23, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No disagreement

CBS does have better announcers, from Nantz to Enberg to Harlan to Johnson.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 23, 2009 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The good news is that how Fox rates their announcers has little to do with how good they actually are.

Proud father of Juan Carlos Perez. Think Albert Pujols at a position to be determined.

by marcello on Sep 23, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is the TV schedule

Fox Early Games:
Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions
San Francisco 49ers vs Minnesota Vikings
Atlanta Falcons vs New England Patriots
Green Bay Packers vs St. Louis Rams
New York Giants vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Fox Late Games:
New Orleans Saints vs Buffalo Bills
Chicago Bears vs Seattle Seahawks

TV Exec thinking:
ZOMG! Tom Brady vs Matt Ryan we gotta show the battle of the golden boys . . . ZOMG WE NEVER GET BROADCAST TOM BRADY!

Gotta feature the Gumba Bowl of the New York Giants vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers because a certain east coast market needs to be constantly reassured they are the center of the world.

New Orleans Saints vs Buffalo Bills, fans like fantasy points and T.O. might do something which will give our post game show an hour to talk about.

by bignerd on Sep 23, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Regional choice

will probably be the Packers and Rams knowing my luck. I hope they make the right choice here and pick the Vickings/Niners game to televise but I’m sure I’m not that fortunate. It sucks living in Iowa and being surrounded by a bunch of Bears and Packers fans. Oh well…just means that I will have to take my 3yr old son with me to the local sports bar and grill to have lunch and watch the game.

by Haggardninja on Sep 23, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Same situation

Since we have a local NFL team in Cincinnati we get a game other than the Bungles at whatever time they don’t play, i.e., if they play at 1:00 Eastern we’ll get at least one 4:00 game. On Fox, it’s usually an NFC East game, most likely the Cowturds because they get assigned the highest rated broadcast crew.

Truth has a well-known liberal bias.

by dianemarie on Sep 23, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

It’s confirmed. We will be treated to the highly anticipated Packers/Rams game! Really…who wants to even see that game? Sounds like me and the boy will be heading to the Legends up the street for lunch and the game.

by Haggardninja on Sep 23, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

God, I hate the sound of Joe Buck's voice.

But seriously, 2 undefeated teams, Brett Favre, Singletary in his first full season as head coach, Gore v. A.P., Michael Crabtree not signing his contract, Michael Crabtree tampering… Is there not enough to talk about?

by aBulldog on Sep 23, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It will be the best game this weekend

  I spent a couple of hours reviewing the #‘s/ stats and it was interesting how close theses two teams are. The Niners matches up very well against the Vikes and can win this game.
  Two things will win this game,
   1. continue the rush defense
   2. Pressure Favre.
 Favre hasn’t ran one play himself and is a Pocket Passer. I don’t think he wants to run.
 The Niners lead the league in Pass defended with 15. Do #2 and this is ours !!!
 It better be on TV or the Network will blow it
  Anybody up for ESPN-West ?

by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 23, 2009 12:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pressure on Favre is HUGE

He hasn’t really seen much pressure yet this year and I think that accounts partially why we haven’t seen turnovers from him. Let’s face it, neither the Browns or the Lions are threatening teams. If we put the pressure on Favre that we did on Warner, that should rack up turnovers and sacks. I’m confident that Bam Bam can shut down AP like last time and I think our rush defense will be strong. I’m more worried about our offense than anything. Can our O-line make holes against their D-line and can Hill really step up this game? We shall see.

by Haggardninja on Sep 23, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turnovers will be the key

If the Ol can play to expections without outside interferences, Lack of turnovers and Interceptions. We can win this Game. A mixture of of offense can confused Minn. Just get after Favre and cause him to make mistakes. The" D " will take care of A .P.

by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 23, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre has been in the league a long time

have you not watched him? He’s never been a running QB. Leave him some space to run for a first and he’ll take it. He’s a master of moving around the pocket, but he loves to bootleg, left or right, naked or not. Is that a pocket passer?

by Salty on Sep 23, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Favre can revert to his old self

when pressured. he tend to make bad decisions when hurried, which is way he is also the league leader in Interceptions.

by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 24, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TDs and wins too

I don’t think he’d have even been in the league very long if his tendency was to make bad decisions. His old self won a Superbowl and three MVPs.

But like I said, he’s never been a running QB.

by Salty on Sep 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FRANK GORE . . . DIVE RIGHT . . . 3 YARDS, 2ND DOWN!

by bignerd on Sep 23, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What iritates me is that,

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Sep 23, 2009 1:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

Damn mobile commenting, pain in the ass...

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Sep 23, 2009 1:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Irritating that,

My local fox station thinks more people would watch a made for tv movie filmed in 93’ than would watch the 2-0 49ers beat the 2-0 Vikings.

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Sep 23, 2009 1:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Or even better,

A sham wow informercial!¡!

I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.

by Sultan of Seitan on Sep 23, 2009 1:11 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

no kidding

we get Bill&Ted’s excellent adventure and then 3 hours of the Bears trying to do to the Seahawks, what the 49ers already managed quite well last week
stupid fox :/

by sleepyotter on Sep 23, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No matter who is in the both

ITS THE NINERS THAT WILL BE ON THE FIELD. So for me,,, I can mute the dang TV and watch the game if the TV crew get to be two annoying..

by WC-Ninerhead on Sep 23, 2009 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Down here in SoCal...

We will have the pleasure of watching the Giants and Buccaneers. Are you kidding me???

Going to a sports bar again.

by John from NP on Sep 23, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Write Your Local Station

Wow, I would be calling them left and right, leaving message via email, and get everyone I know doing that! WTF NYG and TB, for crying out loud, the last time I checked, the niners where still in California!

by Ten-Man on Sep 23, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

down in NC we lcuked out with

…the falcons and patriots.

suck my [

site decorum]

Fox…

by foosball4949 on Sep 23, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No love for the Niners

I am sure that I am not alone here but has anyone ever noticed that even on ESPN the Niners are barely mentioned except with it comes to Crabtree as if thats the biggest Niner news. Frank Gores fantastic rushing day barely got a mention, its all about Adrian Peterson and Farve, Chris Berman (spelling may be incorrect) on ESPN has already predicted the Vikings will be 3-0 back in week 1. I am from Ohio and I never get to see the niners play, but i now have the Sprint mobile nfl so i get to listen to it on the radio, but our Niners are getting no love at all. This Niners team is different from last years model. Commentators are counting the Niners out based upon what the Vikings did to Cleveland and Detroit. In both games the Vikings were down, I believe with the way our defense is playing, if the Vikings are down this week, I dont think they will win, the Niners defense is much better than the Browns and Lions. From my personal view point, bot teams are pretty balanced, both teams have great running backs, Farve is still learning the offense so most of his passes will be short dump off plays and this week if our defense can pressure him, swarm him, I am predicting Farve will revert to his old self of interceptions and bad plays. I also see the Vikings run defense is a little weaker this year then lasts years as well. so after this game if we win, which i think we will, the Niners will start to get shown some love as all of us niner faithful already give.

by deshon on Sep 23, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Niners win which they will

Everyone is on the bandwagon and the Niners go… PRIMETIME!!!!!!

by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 23, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Berman (spelling may be incorrect) on ESPN has already predicted the Vikings will be 3-0 back in week 1

FWIW Boomer is a diehard 49ers fan.

The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!

by riderless on Sep 23, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dallas niners

i have been noticing for a while now how espn/the blitz/nfl live, all zip by niner highlights or sometime just mentioning the game and thats it . I’ve watch espn from start to end sunday nights and mondays and they dont show 1 highlight. go figure

by Moziah on Sep 23, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, I could care less about how much national respect the Niners get...

at least for right now.

Note how all the “pundits” picked the Niners to lose every week this season so far…and yet they keep on winning. I’ll actually start to get concerned if people actually pick them to win (except against the Rams…no one will ever pick the Rams to win. Ditto the Lions). The “nobody believes in us” is an incredible motivating factor. Let it ride!

As for the announcers, eh, as long as the game is on TV (which it always will be in the Bay Area) I’m happy.

Sometimes the impossible can become possible if you're AWESOME!

by ZeroIndulgence on Sep 23, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Note how all the "pundits" picked the Niners to lose every week this season so far

Jimmy Johnson was the lone standout ~ he picked us over the Cards.

The future ain't what it used to be. Go Niners!

by riderless on Sep 23, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's be real here...

…I am talking myself into going on the bandwagon, but we haven’t won crap in years. This is payback for all the 49ers-Falcons games at the Stick where Madden and Summerall turned up.

If we win the division this year, have a playoff run and add some talent next year, we’ll get the attention. Don’t worry.

by Bitter Fan on Sep 23, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Greetings from a visitor just landed here from a Viking longship!

You’re basing this statement on the announcing crew choice. However, when I look at the size of the distribution area across the county, to me it looks like they are feeding it to the second largest # of viewers, after the NE-Falcons game:

NFL Fox Distribution Map 9/27

by puddnhead on Sep 23, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good find

Outside Northern California and Minny, there are not a lot of electoral votes on the map for our game.

by bignerd on Sep 23, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit!

Sports bar, here I come!

by Haggardninja on Sep 23, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty sure Chicago is #3 behind NY and LA

And the Bay Area is either #4 or #5.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 23, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ESPN - WEST !!!!!!!!!!

NINERS. and DIEGO are WEST COAST CHOICES !!!!

by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 23, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

NFC West

I hope the Bears beat Seattle
I hope the Packers beat the Rams
and…
I hope Manning and the Colts demolish the Cards!!

If we beat Minnesota and all of the above happens (it’s not really a long-shot), and a 2 game lead in the west will be nice to have

by Drew K on Sep 23, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Manning

All I’m hoping for out of that game is that the Colts don’t have to pull off another comeback victory.

by sfgfan on Sep 23, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares?

A win is a win as long as you pull 1 game further away from the team chasing you.

May the Forsett be with you.

by SSreporters on Sep 23, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I'm saying.

I don’t need the Colts to demolish the cards. I just want them to win without risking losing.

by sfgfan on Sep 24, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You can't hope the Packers beat the Rams

The Rams are hopeless. That will be ugly.

Gotta agree with you on that 3rd thing.

May the Forsett be with you.

by SSreporters on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LA area FOX affiliate ...

absolutely hates the Niners … they wouldn’t show a Niners game if they were coming off a Super Bowl season and playing The Antichrist’s Army for humankind’s salvation!!! It’s not for any lack of a SoCal fanbase either; there has been a strong contingent of Niner fans here since the glory days that has stayed Faithful even through the Dennis Erickson (who?) years.

I’m convinced KTLA’s entire sports staff are Cowpie fans.

Either that or they get cutbacks from DirecTV.

by squaredsevens on Sep 23, 2009 5:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which…

… I’m in northern LA county and I hate having to settle for another game when I know the Niners are playing if they would… just… show it! I wouldn’t even mind it if they gave regular updates and highlights, but no such luck, even at halftime.

That being said, anyone know of any Niner bars in / around the LA area?

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Sep 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care if

Mickey Mouse is the announcer as long as we win.

Kezarvet

by kezarvet on Sep 23, 2009 6:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

what's wrong with this crew?

not sure what the issue is here. i know a lot of people including a recent sports illustrated story that would rate sam rosen and tim ryan as one of the better if not the best announcing crew that fox sports has. i would agree with that assessment.

sam rosen calls a strong game and tim ryan breaks down film as good as any colour commentator out there.

by wenwon on Sep 23, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

crews

I do like them and I agree that guys like Stockton are not the guys we want in the booth. I was looking at this more along the lines of having a certain level of crew even though this is now a rather big game.

by Fooch on Sep 23, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

crews

Frankly, I can’t think of any of the current crews on any of the networks that make it worth while if the game stinks so I don’t really care who our broadcasters are. My guess is that these guys probably bid these games according to seniority or relative value to the network. If the game was played in San Francisco you might see more interest in doing the game by the better paid announcers but would you want to spend 4-5 days of your week in Minnesota if you could avoid it? My guess is that most of these guys are pretty jaded when it comes to being actual fans of the game.

by thomas d on Sep 23, 2009 9:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I listen on mute anyway

The Niners will not receive respect until they beat a couple of difficult teams. I know the Cardinals went to the superbowl last year, but they still looked sloppy in that game. And the Seahawks? Well, let’s just say that’s a game the Niners should win every time.

If the Niners can beat two of the following teams (Vikings, Falcons, Texans) over the next five weeks (assuming they destroy the Rams, which they should), then look for more recognition. Until then, they’ll have to wait and prove they belong in the spotlight.

That being said, I am surprised that the insanity over Brett Favre doesn’t seem to carry greater weight for scheduling.

by Spencer L on Sep 23, 2009 10:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Mexico

Hey guys i actually live in monterrey mexico a couple of hours away from the states,well about 6 to be exact and last year was my first year in mexico and i was surprised to watch 6 games on the local fox channel and that was besides the monday night game so i got pretty lucky seeing that alot of you guys cant even catch one, and i think as we build hype that were gonna go primetime at lest by week 7 or 8.

by demise87 on Sep 24, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like Ryan and Rosen anyways

We dont need the respect. It will keep a fire under the players asses. I hope we get dissed all year all the while bloodying every team we play.

"Bar None!" - William Floyd

by maveric_87 on Sep 24, 2009 11:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

SoCal update

The 49ers vs. Vikings game is now scheduled to be shown down here!

Thank you KTTV!!!

John

by John from NP on Sep 26, 2009 7:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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