Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Week 3
Well, I'd say after Sunday's finish, this week's approval rating may be more of a projection of how folks think Mike Singletary will rebuild this team's confidence heading into the rest of the season. In year's past I could see a Nolan-coached squad curling up and giving up on the season. Throw in the Frank Gore injury, and just forget about it. Game, set and match, every 49ers opponent!
Obviously we still don't know how this team will respond following that kind of loss. Ironically enough, last season's heart-breaker of a loss to the Cardinals was followed by a home game against the Rams. This past Sunday the team was talking big in the post-game lockerroom, but the first half of the Rams game will certainly tell us quite a bit about the reality of this team's resolve. I'm extremely interested in seeing how the team comes out of the gates, particularly without Frank Gore leading the offense. I'm not worried about motivation given Singletary's much spoken of motivational abilities. Rather it's simply the inherent potential for a letdown. I don't think it will happen, but we'll see.
The rest of the country is starting to weigh in over at ESPN.com and have shown a 92% approval rating for Coach Singletary. Singletary finished week 2 at 95% so I'm guessing a post-loss dip shouldn't be too shocking.
I thought I'd use this post to look at some of Mike Singletary's comments from his lunchtime press conference yesterday. There was some concern here after Singletary seemed to basically say that Raye was doing his thing and he had Singletary's support and that's all there is to it. Thankfully, somebody at the press conference asked the question most of us were wanting answered:
On whether Hill should get more opportunities to pass given his effectiveness in the fourth quarter:
"The thing that I want to say about the third-down play, the thing I want to say about the last play of the game and when you’ve got two seconds - it is very easy to sit here or sit there yesterday and look at the game and say, ‘Why don’t you do this? Why don’t you do that?’ You’ve got 12 seconds left in the game, and it’s amazing the difference 12 seconds brings, many questions. The bottom line is, he called the thing that he called yesterday because it made sense. Obviously, every decision that you call when it doesn’t work, then all of a sudden it doesn’t make sense. Why would you do that? And I know that’s your job, but the thing is, just understand that you call plays because you believe they’ll work, and when they don’t, it just means that you have to go back, you learn from it and you go from there. I said this yesterday and I’ll say it again, I’m not going to go into, ‘Well maybe he should have done this. Maybe you put Nate Davis in. Maybe you put this guy in. Maybe you run the loop-de-loop.’ No. We’re not going to do all that. We did it. It did not work. Guys, we’ve got to go back to the board and do something else."
I highlighted the last line because it stood out to me. He followed that up with this Q&A:
On whether he expected to get more than two yards per carry in the fourth quarter:
"I will say this: When you get towards the fourth quarter, yes, you would like to say that, ‘Man, hopefully we get more than two yards a carry.’ There was a point in the game where I felt we were beginning to get what we were looking for in the running game, and something happened where the guy takes the ball on the kickoff and takes it back for a touchdown and breaks the momentum. And you’ve got to go back to the drawing board. When you look at yesterday, it was just a situation where on the offensive side of the ball, we were fortunate to make some plays at times, but you don’t – the quarterback has success throwing the ball a couple of plays here to [TE] Vernon [Davis] or [WR] Josh [Morgan] or whatever it may be. You want to try to get back to a rhythm, and we just did not get back into a rhythm. And that’s the bottom line in the game."
Given all this, on the one hand Singletary talks about going back to the board because something didn't work. On the other hand, in the second answer, he basically says that the running game was actually starting to get on track. And in that particular drive, the 49ers rushed Coffee 5 times for 30 yards (12, 13, 3, 3, -1). So are we really just going to see more attempts at establishing the run against a knowing defense? If this weekend reveals the "same ole sorry Rams" it will be hard to get an answer. Of course, if the Rams do shut down the 49ers rushing attack, we'll be getting just as much of an answer.
A lot of this falls in the realm of the offensive coordinator, but Mike Singletary has some decisions of his own to make. For some folks, the answer to this week's poll might be indicative of their thoughts on these issues.
Head Coach Mike Singletary
Press Conference – September 28, 2009
Opening statements:
"Good afternoon. I’ll go over the injury report. [RB] Frank Gore had a strained ankle yesterday. It’s not the same as the sprained ankle that he had before, last week. He’s going to have an MRI later on today, and we’ll know the significance of that. It’s not believed to be serious. [S] Reggie Smith has a groin pull. [LT Joe] Staley has a knee contusion and will be getting an MRI later on in the day as well. [LB Jeff] Ulbrich has a right quad contusion. [CB] Dre’ Bly, toe – right toe contusion. [LG David] Baas, left ankle sprain. [RT Adam] Snyder, left thumb sprain. [LB] Takeo Spikes, left leg contusion. Ulbrich – I already talked about Ulbrich. And that’s it."
On whether the ankle strain involves the plantar fascia:
"I don’t know. You’re talking about terms I have no idea about. All I know is that he’s going to have an MRI later on today, and we will know at that time. I just know that it’s believed not to be a serious thing."
On whether it’s related to his previous ankle injury:
"No. Unrelated."
On whether he was tackled awkwardly:
"I don’t know. I looked at the film, but for me to look at it and for him to tell you what it was are two different things."
On whether it’s the same ankle he sprained against Seattle:
"Is it the same ankle? OK." (It was confirmed that it is the same ankle)
On whether he’s inclined to sit Gore out for two consecutive games going into the bye week, so that he gets three weeks to heal:
"I’m going to do what’s best for him first, and then I’m going to do what’s best for the team after."
On whether he’s planning to make any roster moves:
"At this point, we want to see what the MRIs are, what they look like and what they say, and we’ll get the information from there and we’ll act accordingly."
On whether any of the other injuries are serious:
"Not at this point. Once again, Staley’s going to have an MRI later on, and we’ll see how that looks. It looked good this morning, but we’re just going to take extra precautions and go from there."
On whether there was any thought of putting QB Nate Davis in on the last play of the game to reach the end zone on a Hail Mary given his arm strength:
"No."
On why that didn’t happen:
"Because Shaun Hill is the quarterback, and we’re not going to do that."
On whether Hill should get more opportunities to pass given his effectiveness in the fourth quarter:
"The thing that I want to say about the third-down play, the thing I want to say about the last play of the game and when you’ve got two seconds - it is very easy to sit here or sit there yesterday and look at the game and say, ‘Why don’t you do this? Why don’t you do that?’ You’ve got 12 seconds left in the game, and it’s amazing the difference 12 seconds brings, many questions. The bottom line is, he called the thing that he called yesterday because it made sense. Obviously, every decision that you call when it doesn’t work, then all of a sudden it doesn’t make sense. Why would you do that? And I know that’s your job, but the thing is, just understand that you call plays because you believe they’ll work, and when they don’t, it just means that you have to go back, you learn from it and you go from there. I said this yesterday and I’ll say it again, I’m not going to go into, ‘Well maybe he should have done this. Maybe you put Nate Davis in. Maybe you put this guy in. Maybe you run the loop-de-loop.’ No. We’re not going to do all that. We did it. It did not work. Guys, we’ve got to go back to the board and do something else."
On whether he learned from yesterday:
"Absolutely. Absolutely you learn from it, but at the same time, just understand this: It’s the same as when the quarterback throws the ball and that ball is intercepted. It’s easy to sit there and say, ‘Why did you throw that ball? Why did you throw that ball?’ He wasn’t having success. He threw the ball. It got intercepted. But, the bottom line is, maybe it’s the receiver. It could be the quarterback, but maybe it’s the receiver. Maybe the DB made a great move, made a great play. But, don’t always assume because he did something that it’s the wrong thing. It’s just that it didn’t work. And the fact that it didn’t work, there are number of factors in there, but you go back and try and analyze it."
On what he learned from yesterday:
"What I learned from yesterday is you have to play 60 minutes. And that’s really the bottom line. What I learned from yesterday is, when you’re on the road, there are certain things that you cannot do. There are certain calls that you’re not going to get. And, I guess that I shouldn’t say I learned that. I already knew that, but it confirms it. You have to make sure that you execute better on the road. I don’t care how much noise there is. You have to find a way to deal with it. That’s what I learned. Is there anything I learned about our guys? No, absolutely nothing. You just continue to go forward and you strive to get better. The things that you come up short on, you’ve got to work on, and, hopefully, you get better next time."
On whether he expected to get more than two yards per carry in the fourth quarter:
"I will say this: When you get towards the fourth quarter, yes, you would like to say that, ‘Man, hopefully we get more than two yards a carry.’ There was a point in the game where I felt we were beginning to get what we were looking for in the running game, and something happened where the guy takes the ball on the kickoff and takes it back for a touchdown and breaks the momentum. And you’ve got to go back to the drawing board. When you look at yesterday, it was just a situation where on the offensive side of the ball, we were fortunate to make some plays at times, but you don’t – the quarterback has success throwing the ball a couple of plays here to [TE] Vernon [Davis] or [WR] Josh [Morgan] or whatever it may be. You want to try to get back to a rhythm, and we just did not get back into a rhythm. And that’s the bottom line in the game."
On whether he thought the taunting call on CB Shawntae Spencer was accurate:
"One of the things that I don’t want to do, I don’t want to get into the referees because, obviously, there were some plays that I disagreed with. There were a number of plays that I disagreed with. But, I don’t want to go there. I don’t want to get into it. I just basically disagree with what I saw."
On whether he supported Spencer on that call:
"Oh absolutely. Absolutely."
On whether yesterday was a breakout game for TE Vernon Davis:
"I hope there will be games that we can call a breakout. I will just say that yesterday was an improvement for him. I think what Vernon is capable of is a lot better than yesterday. But, it was certainly a good game for him. It was taking another step, but I think if you ask Vernon, Vernon wants the ball. And Vernon is going to make plays. So, I just think I’m thankful that he and Shaun were able to hook up as much as they were, but hopefully we see more of that in the future."
On whether the prevent defense does not work against a two-minute, hurry-up offense:
"I just think it’s a situation – you’re talking about the last play?"
On the prevent defense during the last drive and for other teams around the league:
"I don’t know. I think it’s a combination of things. I think sometimes when you get in a prevent defense, sometimes on the defensive side of the ball, you tend to be a little more cautious, maybe not as free-flowing. Maybe the quarterback has more time. There could be a number of reasons. I just think the most important thing is, you’ve got to get to the quarterback. When you don’t, they have a chance to make a play."
On whether the team was in a prevent defense on the last drive:
"No."
On how he defines prevent defense:
"He said prevent defense. I don’t want to get into a football back-and-forth. The fact that he said prevent, I just went there. The bottom line is no, we were not in a prevent defense. We were in a defense where we were going after the quarterback. We did not get the quarterback down, he threw the ball [and] they made a play. [It’s as] simple as that."
On whether he faults S Mark Roman on that play:
"Fault him? No."
On whether Roman was in good position:
"If he had been in position, he would have made a play. So, no he was not in great position, but the thing is, they just made a football play. There are some times the quarterback throws the ball and the guy is in position to make a play. So, that’s what happened."
On whether there was a reason the team didn’t get to the quarterback on that drive:
"Was there a reason we didn’t get to the quarterback? We just didn’t get to him. If you’re trying to get to the quarterback and you’re asking me, is there a reason you didn’t get to the quarterback – no, what reason would there be for a guy not getting there? He’s trying to get to the quarterback."
On whether his tone this week will be similar to the tone last year following the Monday Night Football loss to Arizona:
"I can’t really remember what my tone was last year. All I know is right now, when I look at the situation we had yesterday, we go on the road, we play a team, we lose, you come back, you’ve got a choice to make, do you dwell on that - ‘Wow, I wish we would have won the game. Man, I wish we would have done this differently. Man, I wish we would have done that differently.’ No. I think you take it. You’re man enough take it. You chew it. You spit it out. You learn from it and you get ready for the next game. You get ready for the next opportunity. I think winners let it go. Winners move forward. I think losers sit there and just wallow in it and talk about it all week. And, it screws you up for the next opportunity going forward. So, I think our focus has to be on the opportunity at hand. I’m very excited about the opportunity that we have this week in the team coming in. [We’ve] just got to get our guys healthy, get ready to go, get focused and get ready for St. Louis."
On whether the team got better yesterday:
"In some areas, yes, I do think we got better yesterday."
On the areas the team got better in:
"I don’t want to get specific in the areas. If you look at the film and you look at the game, you can see there are certain areas that we got better in, and there are certain areas that we did not. The No. 1 area I would say – just to say No. 1 – is the guys believe. The guys fought. We left here. We got on a bus. We got on a plane. We went there to win a football game. We did not – came up short for a number of reasons. But we did not quit, which I – that’s something really cheap for me to say. I knew we would not quit, ever. We got better in terms of knowing that it’s a game that you cold have won, you should have won, but you didn’t. The most important thing is we just have to get back on track."
On whether QB Shaun Hill’s success in the fourth quarter would give him thoughts of letting him dictate the offense the next time the team is in this situation:
"I don’t think it’s a matter of relying on Shaun when we are behind. I just think that it doesn’t make sense to run the ball when you are behind as much and I think if you look around the league, everybody does the same thing. You try to have your game plan, you know you want to run, you want to balance it out, but when you get behind, you aren’t going to run the ball. So that’s why he’s throwing more. When you are behind, you’ve got to do something to try and catch up. So that’s kind of what I think it is."
On what kind of pressure it puts on the defense when the offense can’t convert on third downs:
"I think of it like this. When you are playing defense, that’s your job. Obviously, you get frustrated at times, as a player, but I know our defensive guys know and understand that our offense is going to come through. They are going to get better. They are going to get in a rhythm, But, the last thing that I want to hear is our guys getting down and can they get the first down, because you know they are trying. So we are a team here and that’s the thing that we talk about at all times and hopefully that is something that we never have come up. Sometimes, our defense is going to come through and sometimes our offense is going to come through. It certainly helps when our offense can put together a drive and take seven, eight minutes off the clock. So it works both ways."
On whether the decision to go for it on 4th-and-1 made as a player rather than as a coach:
"I think sometimes you are in a situation and you just try to make a decision based upon what you feel and it’s just a gut feeling, but I felt we would make it. I had just talked to our guys on the bench. As an offensive team, that’s something that times that are coming here, we’ve got to be able to make 3rd-and-1, 4th-and-1, whatever it might be. In particular it depends on where we are on the field as well and if we have a chance, let’s try and make it."
On what was happening when he challenged the illegal forward pass and whether he wasn’t able to get the referee’s attention:
"No, what was happening was, they were saying upstairs, ‘Mike, we think you should throw the flag.’ I’m trying to get the attention of the referee on the field and I’m trying to get some clarity in terms of, ‘Did you see him? You know where the line of scrimmage is, did you see him pass the line of scrimmage?’ So there was a little bit chaos out there on the field and when [defensive line coach] Jim Tomsula came up to me [he was saying], ‘Mike, they are saying throw the flag." So I go ahead and throw the flag, based upon, ‘Okay, if they are saying it upstairs, then I want to throw the flag.’ But, I couldn’t believe that I’ve got a guy standing there looking at it and I’m trying to ask him, ‘Did you see the guy pass the line of scrimmage,’ and he says, ‘Well, they are looking at it,’ and I said, ‘But what did you see? You see where the guy is,’ – see now you are getting me revved up again, but it’s one of those things where there’s a situation where I couldn’t believe you can’t see it and just call it instead of going through all this other stuff, so that’s all that was."
On whether they will know what RB Frank Gore’s injury status by today:
"You know what, if you want it today, John [Crumpacker], I’ll figure out a way to get it to you. OK?"
On how he will get the team ready in a potential letdown game against a winless team:
"I think for us, one of the big things is we are always talking about respect. We are not good enough yet to look at St. Louis or look at any other team and say, ‘Wow, we are going to have a tough time getting ready for these guys.’ We have a goal, we have a destination that we are trying to get to and we’re not looking at the team because it’s about us. It’s not about them and we have to stay focused on the goal at hand and if we don’t stay focused, then we’re not who we say we are."
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I’m still satisfied with Mike, but I’m not voting because I’m also still annoyed that the team lost. This is a poll ruled by passion!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yea… i totally agree, he’s been pretty good coaching SO FAR, and i as well am not going to judge based on the first 3 weeks, i’m also gonna wait until the end of the year to make that decision. I am just getting worried about the games in Green Bay and Philly towards the end of the season, interested how Singletary prepares the team for that
by PiKAgiant on Sep 29, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Voting based on the Week
Yeah, I am going to vote based on just this week and each week afterwards. So I voted no based on the play calling of this game, and maybe next week I’ll vote yes, based on just that game. Oh and for the bye week, I will have a vote yes no matter what!
by Ten-Man on Sep 29, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough Loss
I haven’t gotten to see any of the 9ers games yet, I live in the midwest. I was hoping that the 49ers Vikes game would be broadcast here, due to Vikes being in the same division as the Bears and all, but alas I got the Eagles vs KC for some reason.
Just curious about the play calling. Are you referring to offense or defense, does Singletary call defensive plays?
I can sympathise with you guys a little, as a Bears fan, I can’t tell you how many times Brett Favre has done something, like what he did to you guys, to the Bears over the past decade. It’s uncanny how that guy manages to do that time and time again.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure this game will be one of the NFL Network replay games
Forgive some of us for not watching but you should. You got three combined upcoming games against these two teams. As for why you got the KC-Philly game, Fox didn’t have the doubleheader, CBS did. So your one Fox game was the late start Bears @ Seahawks.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 29, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh,
I’ve been doing my best to keep up. Reading and asking questions here at NN, looking at the stats and watching the highlights and all that.
Thanks for the info about the TV schedules, good to know. Looking forward to playing you guys, I’m actually glad it is in San Fran and not Chicago. I wasn’t sure that I could root against Mike Singletary in Soldier Field. That would have just been weird.
Already planning on wearing my #50 Bears jersey that day anyways. Figure it will help with the guilt I’m going to feel for rooting against Singletary.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pretty much summarizes the feelings in my Bears household
…except that our only “old” jersey is #51, worn faithfully every game Sunday by the man of the house.
May the wind be always at your back, and may your placekicker have icewater in his veins.
by juperee on Sep 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Juperee,
long time no talk, you still a sleeper agent in Viking land?
It really would have been hard to root against Mike (the eyes) Singletary in Soldier Field. Not to mention he is pretty used to winning there. Albeit, looks like he is going to get pretty used to winning in San Fran.
Butkis is a great jersey to show the colors with in Sundays.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its hard to be a 49er fan in the midwest!
I had to go to a sports bar to watch this game and was surrounded by Vikings fans for the most of it. We were unfortunate enough to have the Green Bay vs St. Louis game televised on Fox here. As far as the double header goes, it was on CBS and we got Denver vs Oakland. All the Bears fans were coming in towards the end of the Game. At least they were pulling for the Niners! This week Fox has the double header and it SHOULD be 49ers vs Rams but I’m sure for some reason we will get the Cowboys game because the midwest also has a thing for the Cowboys. Why? I haven’t the slightest idea. I think I have seen every Cowboys game this season so far.
by Haggardninja on Sep 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing with the Cowboys,
it’s not just the mid-west. They’re not called America’s team for nothing, it is unfortunate, but the Cowboys bring in big ratings all over the country and world for some reason. They are like the Cubs and Yankees of football. I think it has something to do with, just speculating here, the Cowboys peaking the same time that T.V. show Dallas was getting good ratings. Just a guess.
There doesn’t seem to be a way around the Cowboys at times. At least it isn’t as omnipresent as it was in the early nineties. The Patriots and Nascar have stolen a little of Jerry Jones thunder. For the record, I don’t support either of those things either.
by Fridge72 on Sep 30, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sunday Ticket
I live in San Diego and the games are never shown down here. If you have DirectTV and can afford it Sunday Ticket is amazing and worth every penny.
by drums7890 on Sep 29, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice,
I got Sunday ticket last year and loved it. Unfortunately my job keeps me on the road enough that I only got to use it for about half the Sundays or so. Can’t see spending the money when half the time I’m going to be sitting in a bar watching it anyways.
by Fridge72 on Sep 29, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we had an approval rating for Raye....
I’m sure it wouldn’t be as positive
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
by bayboy on Sep 29, 2009 10:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see that poll.....
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Sep 29, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS!
Context, people. More context is good. Less context is bad. If you're willing to be reductive, then you're willing to be wrong.
by howtheyscored on Sep 29, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my favorite quote...
from the presser was in re Roman:
If he had been in position, he would have made a play. So, no he was not in great position…
that’s politically correct coachspeak for “mark (site decorum)ed up on that play.”
amen!
by Florida Danny on Sep 29, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I have absolutely no problem with the playcalling.
Many will point to our stubborn playcalling as the reason we lost this game, but we need to realize that our conservative playcalling is a huge reason why we won our first two games and why we’re a dramatically improved team this season.
We’re not turning the ball over anymore. We’re giving our defense great field position so they can get stops. We’re playing to our strengths on offense: our running backs and run-blocking. We’re opening things up in the passing game (particularly over the middle). We’re winning time of possession, keeping the ball longer, and wearing down defenses. We’re keeping our defense off the field and well-rested.
We can’t be mad about our 3 runs and punt on our last possession. We played our cards right: we protected the ball, made them burn their 3 timeouts, and put them back on their 20 yard line with very little time remaining and no timeouts.
Brett Favre was just being Brett Favre. He was better than us on that play. But we’re still a damn good team and we proved it. We should just keep doing what we’re doing.
"We Deserve"
by YaHeard on Sep 29, 2009 11:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I somewhat agree
I would have liked to see a pass play on 3rd down but we all knew what they were going for. I was a little disappointed because we all know how the F-bomb does on a game winning drive and that’s what happened. I was more disappointed to see the lack of a pass rush on that drive. We had some pressure but it could have been more. Too late for coulda, shoulda, woulda though.
by Haggardninja on Sep 29, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to grade a team and the coach..
using the Month or 4 game rule. September is looking good, but the tougher months are the next 2 ahead.
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Sep 29, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep up the good work but Respect our Past and Culture
This loss lies solely on the shoulders of the coaching staff – specifically, Jimmy Raye and Mike Singletary.
I know Mike Singletary wants to emphasize the running game and defense but he also needs to respect the 49ers history too. From Y.A. Title and John Brodie to Joe Montana and Steve Young, our franchise has a long history of being a passing team. I’m not saying we should completely go back to the West Coast Offense but Mike Singletary needs to know that if the running game isn’t getting things done and the pass is working (which it was in the second half with Shaun Hill going a perfect 4 for 4 in the TD drive), you should put your trust in Shaun Hill and our receiving corps.
At one time in our history, we also had a great group of rushers. In the 50s we had John Henry Johnson, Hugh McElhenny, and Joe “The Jet” Perry. But then-coach Red Hickey never forgot that we had a passing game led by Y.A. Title. Mike SIngletary and Jimmy Raye should not forget that 49er fans and our culture is still rich with Bill Walsh’s legacy. Put more trust in Shaun Hill and balance out that offense. 50-50 pass-run.
by OG49erFan on Sep 29, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Under 2 minutes to go in the game, and the opposing team has no timeouts with a 4 pt lead!
Most coaches in the league with a decent defense would love to face those odds in a dome on the road. Manusky’s play calling along with Roman’s incapability of making a play is why the Niners lost. He respects our history of being a great FRANCHISE, it doesn’t matter how you win it matters that you play with honor and dignity and if you have to lose, lose like a man. You need to quit living in the past and except the fact that Sing didn’t inherit a Montana or Young at QB!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
by rlott#42 on Sep 29, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of balmed Roman too
but howtheyscored made a good point to me that you can’t knock Roman for that play. Greg Lewis just made a (probably once in a lifetime) catch…I can’t see that ever happening to Lewis again in his career. But it was all Lewis and nothing Favre did special or that our D lacked…on that particular play
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Singletary on KNBR - no Sheets
i guess that will go against week 4’s review though.
by whitemike1644 on Sep 29, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This move I do not approve of.
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
by rlott#42 on Sep 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah we need Sheets
Robinson will not cut it as a runner. He is more of a special plays guy
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big picture: still doing a great job
He won yet another challenge. Needless to say that over the LOS play would not have been challenged under Nolan. Nor the 12 men penalty vs AZ.
Also, his team fell behind 10-0 while losing Gore, then Coffee went out for a few plays. Many folks on our NN game thread were in a panic. Sing’s team responded with a TD drive and a defensive stop (curtailed due to an iffy roughing call and B.S. taunting call) then ultimately led at the half and had allowed zero offensive points for the entire second half until the miracle end. That’s a coach whose team in prepared, confident and mentally tough.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 29, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't I paniced
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
by rlott#42 on Sep 29, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see how anyone could not approve
of the job he’s doing. We’re not going to win them all and were not always going to do everything perfect. The fact of the matter is Singletary has absolutely changed the culture of this team and he will continue to get my support win or lose.
It was Johnny Hopkins, and Sloan Kettering, and they were blazin that s*** up everyday.
by 49erLou on Sep 29, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a great test!!
you guys need to get off all the coaches back if they had called a pass play that last 3 and out series and thrown a int you would be all over it secondly what had it just been incomplete than they get the ball back with a time out they did what they should which is make them use there time outs if anything our oline should have stepped up and got a first down blame them cause play calling was right we put it in our defense hands and mark roman messed up we should be use to that by him he always messes up i want curtis taylor
cppeter
by foreveryoung66 on Sep 29, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Play calling
He was not too much out of position, especially if they were in a zone prevent defense set up, which by watching the game it sure looked like it. But sorry I disagree with the play calling on the last drive. Winning teams don’t get scared on the last drive! I would have rather had them call a pass play in attempts to pick up those 6 yards and risk the Vikings keeping a time out. Heck I am sure that would have used more time letting the play set up compared to the 4 seconds we ran off the clock with the 2yd! Heck like I said before in another post, I wouldn’t have even complained if they had tried the taser that play, I’m sure that would have used more time, and if someone was open attempt the pass, if not basically you have a delayed hand off that would have surely used more time than 4 seconds. On top of that, the defense would have had to think about the formation and maybe they would have gotten confused opening up an outside lane where we could have picked up 6 yards on the run. So yes, I am blaming the loss on the play calling. Of course it didn’t help that Hill couldn’t complete a pass on third down most of the game! I’m sorry but I still have little or no faith in Hill. Oh well now I’ve just turned to bitching about everything I see wrong with our offense.
by Ten-Man on Sep 29, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roman WAS out of position. As a safety in that situation, you have to keep the play in front of you no matter what. You can’t let a receiver get behind you. He didn’t mess up horribly, he was still there to make a play, but he was out of position.
"We Deserve"
by YaHeard on Sep 29, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clements and Goldson
were in the area also…it was a broken play and the receiver made a good play. It wasn’t a bad play by Roman. There’s probably only a few safeties in the league that could have made that play.
If Clements woulda saw it earlier, he could have made a beat on the ball also.
I’m more dissapointed in us not passing the ball on 3rd and 7 or whatever it was to seal the deal. We’ll pass the ball for 25 yards pn 4th and 1 early in the game (which could be a huge momentum shift if it doesn’t go our way) but at the end, when it counts, no guts?? Makes me scratch my head… We have a superb defense and I can see why a little but on the flip side, why not finish them?
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
58 minutes is all it takes to figure it out.
Favre was running over the backfield looking of a reciever. You cann’t let the DB cover for that long. It wasn’t Roman fault, it was that Favre pull another rabbit out of his HAT ! Give him a few seconds more and he’ll do it every time.
by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 29, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WANT WINNERS!!!
I was at the Cardinal Game, watched the Seattle game and all I have to say is we need to put the knife in the heart of opponents offensively, The Vikes game proved that. Its sad to see. I think they need to put more trust in Shaun Hill. I know Defense wins championships but come on we need a offense that will close the deal make the defense enjoy giving the ball back!!
by azNinerfan on Sep 29, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like Singletary
But he wouldn’t cop to anything. I would feel better if he just said " We blew the call " on 3rd and 6. This was the time for him to accept responsibilty for coughing up the game !
by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 29, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorta
He said they went with the play they thought they would get the 1st with. When it didn’t work, then obviously it was the wrong call, but at the time, they liked the play they went with.
You can’t really fault a guy for that. He thought the play would work, so he ran it. Looking back, it was the wrong call, we all probably thought it would be, however, if he got it, it’s a whole different discussion this week. He said they will take what they learned and make some adjustments next week. That’s all we can really ask for. Now, if it’s 3rd and 6 and a 1st down wins the game vs the Ram’s and we run up the middle with Coffee AGAIN, I may be a little more upset. All we can ask is to learn from what’s not working, make adjustments and move on. What scares me about Raye is whether he is capable of learning. It’s almost like he thinks, ok dive left didn’t work, so let’s dive right. oh dive right didn’t work, so let’s dive left. ok dive left didn’t work, so let’s dive right. dive right didn’t work, so let’s dive left, etc…..instead of HEY DIVE ISN’T WORKING AT ALL, so let’s PASS!!!
by hudd07 on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally agree
I mention on other NN blogsabout the same thing. If it doesn’t work, try something different. He had over 58 minute to realizes the run hadn’t been sucessful. In 3 games they rarely ran to the outside.I knew that after the second game.So does everyone else. To me, there was no 2nd guessing on 3rd and 6. If they cann’t trust the QB,I cann’t trust the run in situation like that !
by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 29, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
80 % of coaches run in that situation, and it's been that ways for years!
BKA optimist prime- Got the Semi runnin' on 49er koolaid!!
Blasphemous beings, the NINERS will never forget!!
Eric Berry anyone?
by rlott#42 on Sep 29, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
80% of coaches don't win the Super Bowl
I’d prefer the other guys.
GROUGTHINK ALERT
The first Chester Arthur fanboy ever.
by groug on Sep 29, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Approved
Hated the loss which is an obvious statement. I’m more disappointed by the execution than the playcalling. Not that the playcalling doesn’t deserve some blame. Also not saying different play calls would’ve made any improvements. For all I know, a pass play on that 3rd down could’ve ended up making it easier for Minnesota to win. There’s no guarantee that a pass play would’ve been the right call. It’s only assumed that because it wasn’t called and that what was didn’t work. The first 3rd down was a 3rd and 1 with a failed pass play. Next 3rd down was a 3rd and 1 with a failed run play. That should’ve been ominous that we weren’t gonna convert third downs regardless what play was called. The execution is still in big need of improvement.
by Ovalshine on Sep 29, 2009 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but...
Raye has doen this in all three games…3 runs in a row, 3 runs in a row, 3 runs in a row. I mean if we were mixing it up more, then who knows, maybe the run would have worked. But when the defense (and more impotantly a good run defense) has seen all your run formations all game…maybe, just maybe a playaction pass or something? I mean anything but 3 runs in a row. If it was the first time he had done this, then I’d be on that band wagon, but reality is that its not the first time he’s pulled this stuff
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the season, Gore/Coffee have combined for 74 rushing attempts. Shaun Hill has 82 pass attempts. Our playcalling isn’t as run-heavy as it looks.
"We Deserve"
by YaHeard on Sep 29, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The point is not that...
the point is that we are not mixing it up enough with the play-calling in general. And the only reason that you see that 74/84 ratio is because we’re playing catch-up in the 4th and relying heavy and solely on the pass. It’s because it’s like 1st down RUN, 2nd down RUN, 3rd down “oh crap” PASS.
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're not playing as much catch up as you think
We never trailed vs Seattle. We trailed for a total of 7:26 of the AZ game. We trailed for just under 11 minutes in the 2nd half of the Minnesota game. I think I get your larger point but we really have spent the majority of the season in the lead and have called more total pass plays than run.
I think those percentages can stay the same. More passing should loosen up the defense and make for more convertible third downs. Those extra plays can eventually be runs and we get more of both.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
by SpurredOn on Sep 30, 2009 12:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering the DL of Minn
Its shows room for improvement. There is no doubt that the Ol has it work cut out for them. Maybe they didn’t do very well against the run but the Pass protection was there. Only one sack and not to much pressure on Hill. I mean, he had time to find V.D. and Morgan without being bother.
by LASVEGASNINER on Sep 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We should have had
6 DB’s stacked 3 at the goaline and 3 at the back of the endzone coallated and sent in 5 D-linemen…there’s no way Favre is running that 32 yards all the way in. Probably would have sacked him
by Drew K on Sep 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Post-loss dip expected?
Singletary went down 2 points after a loss.
I looked at the other coach ratings and pretty much every coach that lost and was 70+% in week 2 went down an average of about 40%. Only other team that was 2-0 and lost went down 15% (Smith, Falcons).
Several coaches that won did not have an improvement in approval rating.
So that is cool that Sing is over 90% at 2-1 and barely dropped after a loss.
by fortyniners on Sep 29, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Singletary has a good point, learn and move on.
So much could have happened differently. It was a team effort and a team loss.
Raye’s play call on 3rd and 7
Coffee not picking up the 1st and blockers not blocking good enough for a 1st down
Justin Smith barely missing swiping Favre’s hand before that pass
Lawson hitting Favre a second late after that pass
Roman not deflecting the ball
Favre accidently throwing it on target 30+yards
Lewis making an incredible catch
Lewis keeping his feet inside
Referees deciding to uphold the call from the booth review
Vernon Davis dropping the ball on the last play of the game which he could have caught and passed it back and someone run it for the score
Any one of those things happening the other way in the last seconds of the game and the score is different. Vikings are lucky they got the win. We are lucky we can go through this now and prevent it happening in the playoffs.
by fortyniners on Sep 29, 2009 5:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate Mark Roman
Give me some Curtis Taylor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go 49ers
by iaalexeeff on Sep 29, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for Clarity on Jimmy Raye's last 6 play calls.
1st Series
1st Down: Run to Coffee who angles to run outside behind right tackle, play blown up in backfield due to poor interior blocking.
2nd Down: Misdirection pitch to Coffee who bumbles the ball allowing the DE to catch him in the backfield before getting outside.
3rd Down: Screen pass to Vernon Davis, had most of the defense fooled except the safety who came flying up for the tackle before the blockers could get to him.
2nd Series
1st Down: Almost a goal line formation, dive left for a 2 yard gain by Coffee.
2nd Down: Motion to a goal line formation, dive left for a 2 yard gain by Coffee. He was just caught from the side by the linebacker.
3rd Down: Sweep right to Coffee, the guards pull and have some blocks but not enough push. LB meets Coffee in the hole.
If you are keeping scores that 2 dives insides, 3 runs to outside and 1 screen pass.
by bignerd on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
play calling
So you’re picking the drives where the 49ers had the lead and were trying to run time off the clock? Just want to make sure I’ve the context correct.
by Fooch on Sep 29, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Those were the last two possessions of the game for the 49ers. Based on comments here I’ve gathered the perception is Jimmy Raye called 5 dive plays.
by bignerd on Sep 29, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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