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San Diego Chargers 26 - San Francisco 49ers 7: How 'Bout Them Refs?


Well, there you have it folks. The Chargers took the lead on the opening drive after recovering a surprise onside kick and from there it was... well, not domination, but the 49ers never quite found their rhythm. The team simply looked tired, though I recall reading a comment in the game thread that made sense, which went something along the lines of the Chargers having more roster spots up for grabs and therefore had more to play for. Still, a loss is a loss. A few observations, though...

EDIT: I do not honestly believe that we lost the game due to the officiating at the game. I was looking for a catchy title and a good portion of the posts in the game thread were outrage toward the refs. I realize that our run defense sucked, our pass defense sucked, and we couldn't call a play if our life depended on it. Still, I'd like to look at the good parts first.

QB Nate Davis looked great on his first drive out, but couldn't find any momentum after the scoring drive. Still, he didn't make too many mistakes and made some very mature throws out there. QB Shaun Hill did... just OK, completing 3 of 4 passes, but holding onto the ball and taking two sacks. Still, solid play from the rookie spells good things for the 49ers.

There were several young guys who played well including rookies Scott McKillop and Curtis Taylor who seemed to always be near the ball, especially McKillop. As far as roster decisions based on the game, guys like Curtis Taylor, Justin Roland, Ricky Jean-Francois and Micheal Spurlock likely made the fight for 53 a little closer than it was before the game. We also had a solid game out of our running backs and WR Jason Hill.

How about them refs? I can't honestly claim that they were favoring the Chargers, but I can claim there was at least one or two calls that wouldn't have been called 9 times out of 10. The 49ers committed seven penalties, surrendering a total 113 yards. It would seem we either need new referees, or maybe a little more discipline.

Got a bit more to say after the jump...

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More on Nate Davis, watching him in the 4th quarter, I feel he is a much better decision-maker already than both Shaun Hill and Alex Smith. Of course, this probably isn't a huge accomplishment, but if you threw Shaun Hill into that situation he would have either taken the sack or thrown a pick. Now, he DID have an interception in the game but it was a one-in-a-million bounce off the defensive back's foot and the receiver made it pretty obvious when the ball was coming in.

CB Eric Green was looking for a strong showing tonight, and may have just lost himself a chance at the roster due to penalties and lack of discipline. He was in on some good tackles but was otherwise invisible. Still, even more invisible was Marcus Hudson, so who knows what will happen?

Micheal Spurlock looked decent returning kicks, at least on par with Allen Rossum--but the big surprise here was Kory Sheets. I'd like to see him take a few more kicks and see what happens.

Nate Clements once again looked bad, but I wont even get into that. I'm looking at giving him the benefit of the doubt but it's just hard when I see him torched again and again.

Dominique Zeigler suffered an ankle strain, it looks like if there was a sixth spot and it was between him and Spurlock, the latter would get the nod.

Last but not least I think the team needs to consider hanging onto LB Diyral Briggs, he looked great coming off the edge and could be the pass-rusher we're looking for. Or at least, a minor improvement if Manny Lawson doesn't learn how to get around a cut block.

Well, there you have it, folks. No undefeated preseason for us, but we saw some good things (younger guys) and some bad things (secondary, discipline.) Let's hope with some "gameplanning" Nate Clements can handle Larry Fitz in the opener at Arizona.

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Newsflash:

We played awful. 90% of the calls against us were completely obvious, stupid mistakes.

We lost because they ran all over us and because the playcalling in the second half was abysmal.

We did not lose because the referees hate the 49ers.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Sep 4, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

play calling was pass heavy

Which is not the team’s strength but I think the right call, to see what Davis could do even with 2s and 3s. It cost time of possession and perhaps moving the chains but hey, it’s preseason.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 4, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the fact that they called passing plays that I take issue with.

It’s the type of passing plays that were called. Unimaginative route design, questionable use of play action, short drops in long yardage situations, deep drops in short yardage situations, poorly planned screen passes, minimal use of designed rollouts to counter our awful pass protection…

I’m beginning to think that the reason Jimmy Raye calls I-formation dive plays on 3rd and 7 is because he really doesn’t have any effective passing plays for the situation.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Sep 4, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looked quite similar to San Diego’s offense. The main difference could be that their backup receivers run better routes, or QBs had more time behind reserve linemen. My guess is that three years in the same system helps more than anything.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

it was pass heavy to get a good look at our receivers

our bckfield is full so we needed to pass alot to figure whos gana get playing time at receiver

by dalien82 on Sep 4, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i was upset with the refs

but i’m also upset with our poor tackling and many other things. . after this game I blanked everything from my mind and told myself to be ready for the Cardinals. Its time for us to see what the 49ers can do in 60 minutes with the 1st offense. No more 2nd & 3rd stringers winning us the game in the end like in the preseason “unlike tonight”, and although i’m happy with the potential in Nate Davis I’m focusing all my attention to Hill.

by StevenC on Sep 4, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

My problem with the refs

They seemed to be in preseason mode as well. Many PI flags were late and thrown by the ref with a worse angle. If it’s a penalty call it, otherwise move on. They obviously need the work too.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 4, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Roster

On: Harris, Hudson, Jason Hill, Pascoe, Sims (unless the waiver wire offers better).
PS: Mitchell, Finley, Boone, Moore, Zeigler (if not I.R.)
???: RJF, Briggs.
Off: Greene, Spurlock (if/when Crabtree signs)

Lining up offsides aside, Briggs showed some stuff tonight and has upside. So did Harris, though without the upside, he does know the system.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 4, 2009 10:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I was mostly disappointed by T. Brown's penalty

That could have been an INT.

I guess Dre Bly just won the starting job?

Other than that, most of the other penalties were just on the young guys….I’m not too concerned.

I will say that the offsides call on Briggs was unnecessary because it didn’t affect the play AT ALL.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Sep 4, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions  

OH

And the unnecessary roughness call was terrible.

Can’t argue with that Shlecko

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Sep 4, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'll give you that one.

But we should expect to see that call getting made league-wide just about all season long. Safeties laying out hard hits on receivers over the middle is no longer legal in the NFL, it seems.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Sep 4, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the team next Sunday

Perhaps an important game for us Niner freaks/diehards. But that’s not our team this year. Looked more like a Senior Bowl to me.

by Vertigo on Sep 4, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

exactly

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Sep 4, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

ummm nate clements anyone???

who here feels like he is the other biggest mistake from the nolan era… we pay this guy a ton of money one of the top db’s and i can’t remember the last good game he had. well i did see him give up a TD to osgood who has not got a TD in his whole career. also clements had a stupid PI call against him.

why did all of the DB’s run at the reciever with thier hands up??? don’t they know thats like saying “hey look at me im out of position, just throw the flag”

DB’s looked horrible!!! no pass rush which leads to an exposed secondary (just ask the chargers from last year)

and yes we went way out of our play calling… i know they wanted to see what nate can do with 20+ but we really didn’t run the ball.

frustrating watching the niners lose drives me nuts but the refs were calling allt he plays right. niners kept going offsides, they kept hitting the recievers early, i just don’t see how this is a good way to enter the season by letting billy volek carve up your secondary.

by whitemike1644 on Sep 4, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions  

- The hands to the face call on Green was weak. You could call that every other possession but don’t; that it cost us an INT made it worse.
- Could not agree more about Clements. I’m less worried about the pass rush as that can be altered with scheme. Nate is on his own as a corner and he has looked horrid. If he’s bad next week I would not hesitate to make Brown and Bly/Spencer the starters.
- P.I. is a judgement call so unfortunately we all have to live with it. The RJF fumble recovery after the sack (APPLAUSE) was horrid. I can only imagine if this had been a reg season game with more camera angles how awful it would’ve been to either waste a challenge on that or have that play stand as SD ball. That play was truly bad by the refs.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 4, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh..

I complained about the Refs, but its a preseason game so… I am not too worked up about the refs or the Niners playing until the season starts we shall see

by danknerd49 on Sep 4, 2009 10:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Bruce, Gore, even Hill didn't play much

So why is Nate C. suddenly different, where his play matters? Isn’t he the same royalty as with, say, Justin Smiley? He looks slows to me, but I’ve seen him shut down passing lines like no other. Once he messes up in the regular season (Arizona on 9/13) then okay; we can move him to safety . But not before.

by Vertigo on Sep 4, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Lemme see..

The URL says ninersnation, but somehow, I feel like this is raidernation.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 4, 2009 10:58 PM PDT reply actions  

And no one should want that

However, the sack/fumble recovery that was incorrectly given to SD and not corrected still mystifies me. It didn’t cost the game and who care in preseason, but unlike penalties that are judgement calls that was inexcusable. Just very strange, even if it had helped us instead. How does that happen?

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

The number of penalties sends red flags up all over the place

Compare from the previous three games (all stats taken from NFL.com)

Against the Cowboys the Niners had 7 penalties for 45 yards.
Against the Raiders it was 5 penalties for 42 yards.
Against the Broncos it was a stunningly low 4 penalties for 20 yards.

That’s one of the things that I’ve actually been very impressed with on this team. They’ve been very disciplined, with very few penalties, and to go from 45 yards worth of penalties to 113? Seems just a wee bit fishy to me.

Now I didn’t watch the game (date night with mrs smileyman), but I’ll catch it on replay during the week. Just seems odd to me that a well-disciplined team like the Niners have been can go from 45 yards to 113 yards worth of penalties in one week.

by smileyman on Sep 4, 2009 10:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Worth noting:

Starters played far less in this game in any other this pre-season. Additionally, the future-waiver wire scrubs were on the field pretty much from the end of the second quarter to the end of the game. When your least talented and least experienced players spend the most time on the field, you should expect a lot of sloppy play – and that’s what made up the majority of the penalties.

My pessimism goes to the point of suspecting the sincerity of the pessimists.

by shlecko on Sep 4, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Guys that are less than twelve months removed from college football or have only one year on a practice squad are liable to make mistakes with that much pro playing time. At least it was silly correctable stuff like lining up offsides and pass interference when having good coverage.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

yea that fumble play confused the hell out of me i forgot about that…

also i noticed i feel like the clippers… we are a great team… on paper! but the over paid under achievers are driving me nuts.

by whitemike1644 on Sep 4, 2009 11:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Not sure about that

Most NFL fans think this team looks pretty crummy on paper. They’re going to have to overachieve to succeed.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 5, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

We didn't go 4-0

This means we won’t go winless like the Lions last year. Success!

"I never watched baseball on TV. It's slow and boring. I'm not a fan. Never was." - Jeff Kent

by Yoyo on Sep 4, 2009 11:31 PM PDT reply actions  

or Raiders in 06 ;)

I think it was in 06 when the Raiders won all 4 preseason games “one which happened to be against us” and then in the regular season had 2 wins with 14 losses “one of which came from us ha ha”
.Gotta love them Raiders.

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 12:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

About the Refs

I haven’t seen the game yet but I’ve watched 3 games from yesterday and the officiating was horrible in all of them. Apparently the NFL used this week of preseason games to test new officials or to get officials practice in different roles/positions. Also I might add in most games the play was very slopping.

by bignerd on Sep 4, 2009 11:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Davis pick

Could that have been a face guarding penalty on that rediculas into throw by nasty nate!!

by iwillnotlose97 on Sep 5, 2009 12:40 AM PDT reply actions  

thats what i thought

They called it on us, but not on the Chargers. that was some bull dump, but than again they called everything in the books on us. I’m surprised they didn’t call unsportsmanlike conduct on Singletary for being too calm. " I kid "

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pascoe

Actually caught a pass! He seemed to block well too… and yeah, there isnt much more positive to talk about…

by Poundtherock on Sep 5, 2009 12:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Davis to Hill

Was Brady to Moss like, I enjoyed that. I also enjoyed Sheets’ run down the left sideline, when it looked like he was going to be tackled for a loss of 2 or more he turned on the burners and got around that edge =)

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

We got a sack

Actually 3 tho one was negated by ticky-tack hands to the face on Green. We even hit the QBs hand one other time while throwing for an incompletion. Not bad after no real sacks the first three games and vs a team that ran alot. Keeping things in perspective, San Diego is one of the top six teams in the league.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

How odd

That we forced 3 turnovers that didn’t count; two due to penalty and one due to the refs not paying attention. That’s one area that seems, after four preseason games, to be greatly improved over last season.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 1:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I really like Shaun's Hill

Nate Davis should start.

Singletary is special.

by bucimislover on Sep 5, 2009 1:17 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

?

What are you talking about?

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 5, 2009 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I believe

he put 3 topics into 1 rambling of nonsense which only he can understand, or maybe he is using sarcasm for Shaun Hill “do to the fact that he didn’t play tremendous today”, and is over optimistic for Nate Davis to start this year “which would create the A. Smith syndrome all over again”, and thought Singletary is special because of how he looked as if he was playing silent game with himself during all 4 quarters.. or maybe what i just did was rambling nonsense of what only i can understand ha ha

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just watched the game...

Sloppy play from practice squad players…. makes sense….
Lots of pass plays since we were always behind i guess?
I still have man crush on Nate Davis
Receivers whose names I don’t know didn’t help Davis (expected)
Woot! no curse of the 4-0 preseason!!!!

by Joshpreet on Sep 5, 2009 1:51 AM PDT reply actions  

exactly..

Collins?? Price?? I don’t remember exactly but i think it was Collins who ran his route wrong thus enabling us to get a needed 1st down and i forgot what Price messed up but i know he did because whenever i get mad at a player i remember their names and i distinctively remember those WR’s names.

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 2:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

it was like these nicely thrown passes at a pro level and no receiver there… i was like wtf Davis!!!… then they showed the replay and like every receiver just gave up on their route… remember the one that was a interception out of bounds where like the ball was thrown perfectly where it was supposed to be and the receiver just stopped on his out route.. that was pretty frustrating…

by Joshpreet on Sep 5, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

i think that was Price..

lol.. I could break it down to be more sure. First off, Bruce didn’t play so that takes him away from that possibility. Jason Hill would’ve done anything to get that ball so it wasn’t him, Crabtree isn’t even on the team, Spurlock like Hill would’ve done anything to get that ball, Brandon Jones has a broken shoulder so that takes him out of it. So it had to be either Collins or Price and I think it was Price =). At least it makes Singletary’s WR cuts easier =)

by StevenC on Sep 5, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm watching the re-run on NFL Network..

..And I still don’t see why anyone would ever get excited about the starting units. They’ve more or less played like this the entire preseason.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Sep 6, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions  

i thought more ppl were excited about the young talent....

we’ll see about the first unit when the regular season starts with Gore

by Joshpreet on Sep 6, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

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