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Golden Nuggets: Dominated?

Good morning folks, Ninjames here. Still a bit numb from the loss last night, but I'm come to terms with the fact that it was our backups' backups playing most of the game. Still, I have some question marks about some of our starters. Then again, I can't make too many judgments on the starting unit based on preseason. One thing I am excited for, however, is the roster cuts today. I mean, I'm not excited that some 700 people will be collectively losing their jobs, but I'm excited to see what the roster looks like. Will Micheal Spurlock be around for kick returning, or was the lone return from Kory Sheets enough to make us want to try him some more at the position? I just feel like Rossum may not have a whole lot left in the tank. Anyway.. I'll stop ranting and get to your links.

The 49ers will bring their roster down to 53 players later on today. (PressDemocrat.com)

Yep, the Niners lost to the Chargers yesterday. Pretty self-explanatory here. (SacBee.com)

Apparently, we were dominated. This is debatable, but it makes a good point in "the 49ers first string offense did not look good." Granted we only saw one series, and without Frank Gore, but this is the fourth game now that the starting offense didn't look good. (SacBee.com)

WR Jason Hill is upset that he's not getting enough reps. I really hope he makes the roster, I like the guy a lot, and I'll admit I've been one of those who've been kind of ignoring him as far as discussion goes, but he's a solid player and deserves to make it over Spurlock and Zeigler. Also, some notes about the other battles. (PressDemocrat.com)

Here's a video or some such that I didn't watch due to slowing internet connection, but it's titled "Where's Crabtree?" (NFL.com)

This began as a semi-inspired article, but the bit about the 49ers is something to be interested in. I agree. (Yahoo.com)

A recap of sorts, focusing mainly on the drives in the first half. (SFGate.com)

And here's a look at the second half. (SFGate.com)

Deion Sanders speaks for Michael Crabtree. Apparently Crabtree is willing to sit out the whole season. Hm.. I really like Prime, in fact, he and Rich Eisen are the only reason I watch the NFL Network but really, the bit where he talked about Crabtree.. he just sounded so stupid, and I'm sure he did to non-49ers fans as well. What an uninspired crock. (PressDemocrat.com)

Here's a recap of sorts. (MercuryNews.com)

Here's a guy I hope makes it, perhaps at the expense of... Marques Harris. Road to the Roster: Diyral Briggs. (49ers.com)

And another one who looked solid last night.. Road to the Roster: Alex Boone. (49ers.com)

Here's an in depth drive-by-drive recap. (49ers.com)

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We were dominated

That’s not really debatable. The Chargers crushed us in TOP and total yards. Considering the backups were playing the meaning of this is debatable though.

by Brendan Scolari on Sep 5, 2009 4:03 AM PDT reply actions  

a few perspective as preseason ends

The Chargers simply beat us. Niners are not as good as that fine team. Big deal. Who thought they were? They also clearly wanted to win the game more. I think we were trying not to get hurt and look at certain players; we did both it would appear.
1. Niners had a good end of the season last year and appointed Sing as Coach and S. Hill was an important factor for this: Hill deserves Sing’s support to see what he can do; so what if A. Smith sits on the bench for a while. A third QB has been found.
2. If Crabtree signs soon and can contribute at all, the draft was high quality due to the finds of Davis, McKillop, Coffee, and Sheets. Pass rusher is absent still, Marvel Davis was a botched experiment. Pascoe and Boone are big but is big better? TE is not a critical need, but RT; but Boone was note drafted, so can’t be viewed as a bust.
3. Preseason put in the run offense. Defense emerged moved up a notch in my view, and has more depth. Brown and Spencer can come in if Clements is truly failing.
4. A tackle and pass rusher are likely to be added from the wires if good ones can be found. If not, that doesn’t make the team bad.
5. The best players were protected or hurt during preseason: Smiley, Bruce, Gore, Willis, etc.
6. The team needs to come together during the season, with the players who actually make the team. This will take four games or so.
7. Suitable progress has been made to be optimistic.

by Vertigo on Sep 5, 2009 6:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Vertigo, you make me feel a little better.

But I should never, ever again drink so much Jameson’s in watching the fourth preseason game. I had a hangover before I went to bed.

by Bob In Beaverton on Sep 5, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least

it wasn’t the defense that has this affect you, Bob on the Coast!

by Vertigo on Sep 5, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you mean Baas not Smiley

And this is a fair point. Have we really seen the #1 offense this preseason? Gore played less than 20 total plays in two games. Snyder missed a game. Bass missed three games. And Hill had fewer snaps in game and practice due to his QB competition. I’m not sure we can truly say what the offense will look like other than a run first philosophy, as the play calls have been basic.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jason Hill deserves to make the team

Especially since over the course of the game shwn Hill will need that chemistry when the relief receivers come in. Hill is absolutely right about the reps

by dalien82 on Sep 5, 2009 8:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Part of the domination

Is because Norv was committed to calling as many running plays as possible to make the game move quickly. Smart really; why risk injuries in a final meaningless game when your team is established? Normally our side would do the same but we called mostly pass plays to see the rook. Again, makes sense but this helped lead to the TOP discrepancy in the 2nd half, when WRs I forgot were on the roster played a great deal and ran some wrong routes.

My larger question would be: had we dominated we’d be hearing about how it doesn’t matter cause it’s preseason and backups’ backups. So when it happens to us, why not say the same?

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

It would be nice..

If the first team offense looked like it could dominate, but it hasn’t. Unless you play the Raiders.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 5, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The below post was meant as a response to drummer

Typing while watching college football.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It didn't need to

Cause it’s the preseason. It wouldn’t have mattered and we would be saying, “show me in the games that count.” I certainly didn’t expect them to dominate and would’ve been shocked had they. New O-coordinator dealing with a QB competition, rookie Qb in the 2nd half of all games, two starting linemen missing time and the best player missing half the games. No way you could dominate if you tried. Hell, even Indy’s preseason offense has looked rather plain and they have the same system and Manning.

Perhaps it all comes down to expectations. I expect an offense that plays better in the 2nd half of the season due to familiarity but may struggle a bit in the first two or three games. I expect a run first philosophy that has much fewer turnovers and a reduction of 15+ sacks from last year. I expect better TOP and at least a slight improvement in the redzone now that we can run down there. This may equate to an improvement of 2-3 pts per game average. That would advance us in the top half of the league. I look forward to seeing Hill for a full game as well as Gore; example, the hit from Merriman last night was due to Coffee missing his blitz pickup. That does not happen with Gore in the backfield. There are plays to be made and certainly will be once we’re game planning for teams and Raye uses his full playbook. Some patience is involved but the season is 16 games and I’m not expecting 13-3 this year.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 5, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions  

The only thing I expect from this team..

Is to show up on gameday. That’s it. Whether they win or lose, I don’t care anymore. Why? Because I tired of wondering what kind of team shows up for the season. That’s all on the Owners of this franchise. I don’t have anything to do with the outcome of any game. I don’t choose the players or coaches. I can’t tell them where to build a stadium.

As far as last night: SD had a few starters out on both defense and offense for most of the game too. Like Blogging the Boys wrote after SF won that game:

“Their scrubs are better than our scrubs”.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 5, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Because I tired of wondering what kind of team shows up for the season.” – I would imagine that we’re all there, more or less. And we’ll continue to be there until there’s a winning season, cause until that happens everything is hope and speculation. The difference between most winning teams and most losing teams in the NFL is not that great, but until you’re one of the winning teams it always feels like a bridge too far to cross. I’m hoping we cross it this year and expect to but I’ve been let down before (in this decade).

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Sep 6, 2009 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

The difference between..

A losing season and a winning season is not predicated on the final w/l column. Remember when Young went down? Do you remember the horrid QB situation then, with a Mirer vs. Garcia vs. who? Mooch went 4-12, 6-10, to 12-4. He had a horrid defensive backfield. We had rookie DB’s going against Martz’s GSOT. But Mooch did have a badass running game. But even when he had Young, he had to be more conservative in order to keep him upright. Why? Well, we know why. There was nobody to back him up. One good reason is Drunkenmiller over Plummer. That’s a Policy F-Up.

Mooch got fired after having a 10-6 season, and was the last HC to take them to the playoffs. People hated him because he was “conservative”, yet, on offense, he really wasn’t as conservative as what we have had outside of Martz.This team will be more conservative than Mooch. But Mooch had good players. Erickson his first year had a top ranked offense. Since then, what? Because of a lot of mistakes by both the FO’s of Eddie and John York.

What I trying to sat is that if this team goes 6-10, that’s not bad. This team doesn’t have that much talent. If Singletary goes 9-7, after and then 12-4, there is your hope. But your hope isn’t on the players and coaches. It’s on the Ownership.

You don’t build a team on a house of cards. You pull one card like Julian Peterson, then you have no real hand in the game. You pull one card like Gore, then you are back to needing more cards.

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Sep 6, 2009 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

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