100 in 100: C.J. Spiller (2 of 100)
by Drew Kerr on Jan 13, 2010 1:00 PM PST
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PrintThis is a new segment that Fooch wanted to incorporate for the offseason. The purpose of the new segment is to take an individual, in-depth look at some of the top college players in the Nation. From (January 12th) up until the day before the draft (April 21st), I will be writing articles on 100 different players in the next 100 days, hence the 100 in 100 title. The whole idea behind the 100 in 100 is to focus the conversation solely on the specific player that the particular articles will be covering. Deeper in to the article, I will cover the player's attributes, awards earned, honors earned, highlights (if available), and their NCAA college career stats.
C.J. Spiller is in my opinion the most electrifying offensive players in the country. It has been duely noted that Spiller is probably my favorite player to watch in NCAA Football. He has definitely earned his way in to a first round pick slot in the 2010 Draft. Spiller has everything that one could ask for in a running back. He has exceptional hands and has the ablity to line up as a receiver in the slot or on the outside. I often find myself asking, "How would he fit in to the Niners offense?", the answer that often proceeds that question is typically, "anyway you want"; he is extremely versatile and can explode for a TD anytime he touches the ball. The possibilities are endless with Spiller. He was very effective in returning kicks as well. Spiller scored a touchdown in every game of the 2009 season and was also the only player to score 5 different ways by rushing, receiving, passing, punt return, and kick return. Clemson hasn't always been the best recruiting school for football, but I can imagine that is all changing now thanks to the help of Spiller, Ford, Sapp, and McDaniel among others. Spiller, a Florida native, had the opportunity to go to school's such as Florida and Florida State but after commiting to Coach Dabo Swinney by signing his intent on the back of a business card and later a visit to the school confirmed the choice to attend school at Clemson University.
After the jump, I'll get in to some of the specifics regarding Spiller. There will also be a highlight video attached for those who may not have had a good opportunity to see Spiller in action.
There are for more video highlights, you can go to a variety of other video hosting websites. As you can see in the feed here, Spiller has all the moves and all the speed to give him the potential at a good run (no pun intended) in an NFL career.
AWARDS AND HONORS:
- 2009 ACC Player of the Year
- 2nd Team All-ACC Running Back
CAREER STATS:
| Stats Overview | Rushing | Receiving | Fumbles | |||||||||
| YEAR | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST |
| 2006 | 129 | 938 | 7.3 | 80 | 10 | 19 | 210 | 11.1 | 82 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| 2007 | 145 | 768 | 5.3 | 83 | 3 | 34 | 271 | 8.0 | 68 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
| 2008 | 116 | 629 | 5.4 | 57 | 7 | 34 | 436 | 12.8 | 83 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 | 216 | 1212 | 5.6 | 66 | 12 | 36 | 503 | 14.0 | 63 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 Regular Season Game Log | Rushing | Receiving | Fumbles | |||||||||||
| DATE | OPP | RESULT | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST |
| 9/5 | Middle Tennessee | W 37-14 | 4 | 12 | 3.0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 9/10 | @Georgia Tech | L 30-27 | 20 | 87 | 4.4 | 25 | 0 | 4 | 69 | 17.3 | 63 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| 9/19 | Boston College | W 25-7 | 17 | 77 | 4.5 | 13 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 2.0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 9/26 | TCU | L 14-10 | 26 | 112 | 4.3 | 34 | 1 | 3 | 79 | 26.3 | 60 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 10/3 | @Maryland | L 24-21 | 18 | 72 | 4.0 | 12 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 3.5 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 10/17 | Wake Forest | W 38-3 | 9 | 106 | 11.8 | 66 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 3.0 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 10/24 | @Miami (FL) | W 40-37 | 14 | 81 | 5.8 | 48 | 0 | 6 | 104 | 17.3 | 56 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| 10/31 | Coastal Carolina | W 49-3 | 5 | 27 | 5.4 | 10 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/7 | Florida State | W 40-24 | 22 | 165 | 7.5 | 45 | 1 | 3 | 67 | 22.3 | 58 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/14 | @North Carolina State | W 43-23 | 18 | 97 | 5.4 | 30 | 1 | 3 | 48 | 16.0 | 34 | 1 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/21 | Virginia | W 34-21 | 19 | 58 | 3.1 | 14 | 1 | 5 | 39 | 7.8 | 26 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/28 | @South Carolina | L 34-17 | 9 | 18 | 2.0 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 19 | 6.3 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 12/5 | Georgia Tech | L 39-34 | 20 | 233 | 11.7 | 54 | 4 | 1 | 5 | 5.0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 Postseason Game Log | Rushing | Receiving | Fumbles | |||||||||||
| BOWL | OPP | RESULT | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST |
| GAYLORD HOTELS MUSIC CITY BOWL | Kentucky | W 21-13 | 15 | 67 | 4.5 | 16 | 1 | 3 | 58 | 19.3 | 42 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
SUMMARY AND PROJECTIONS:
Spiller will more than likely share time with another running back of whatever team he is drafted to. However, the story could play out as it did with Chris Johnson and LenDale White in Tennessee when Johnson showed the ability to be an every down back and the ability to score on every touch. Spiller will add instant value in many areas for whoever does get to draft him. Projection: 1st round, picks 10-20.
Possibilities-- Dolphins, Seahawks, Texans, 49ers, Giants
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SF... really?
Well, I don’t think it matters since he’s a first rounder and I don’t think SF is going to use their first round picks on a RB when they have so many other holes to fill
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Same thing was said when we grabbed Crabtree last year at 10
With the offense so bad and Gore always with nagging injuries, it wouldn’t totally shock me. Our offense was horrible last year… Spiller fixes all three facets (Rushing, Receiving, Return Game)
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Yeah..
Oher was a real area of need concerning Singletary’s idea of offense and smashmouth. ScotM drafts BPA, and if Spiller is there, I don’t see him passing him up.
The 49ers need speed too. I dunno how fast Spiller is however, but the 49ers on offense lack explosiveness outside of VD and maybe Gore.
Well, we're waiting....
He runs track at Clemson also
He will probably have in between a 4.3-something in the combine. I’d say he is a half step slower than Chris Johnson which is pretty fast.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Wait a second
In the highlight video that #6 blows past him on the return. If he is as fast as Chris Johnson than was that Usain Bolt wearing #6?
Jacoby Ford
also runs track and his best time was a 4.126
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
In the 40 to clear that up
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Lets draft him too than
Actually, he ought to declare now. 4.12 sec 40 yard won’t slip past Al Davis at the #8 pick.
I’d be surprised if he does drop down to SF anyway… the Raiders are likely to draft speedy guys anyway
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Raiders already have McFadden
I can’t see them drafting another RB with their first so soon after drafting him.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
it's the raiders
they do a lot of things that dont make sense and this could be one of them
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Nope
Al Davis loves his previous 1st round picks.
No way he gives up on McFadden yet.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think #6 "blew" past him
I think Spiller slowed down to let Ford block for him.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
and it’s easier to run without a football and breaking out of tackles
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At the 25 second mark you can see #6 blow right past him in the open field. The highlight video returns to the finish of the play at 35 second mark.
You can see Spiller isn’t slowing down, nor is he avoiding a tackle at the 25 second mark.
Look closer
at the 25 second mark once Ford goes by Spiller you can just barely see the helmet of the defender coming into view. Ford is taking the perfect angle to block for Spiller.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Look even closer -- one shoe
That was the return against Maryland. Spiller lost his shoe early in the return. One cleat and one sock and he’s still moving pretty good.
I saw some ytube on him from one of the your draft posts and he is quick.
He also has very quick lateral moves and exeraltes really good. PUFF and he is gone!
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Crabtree’s case is a little different. Before Crabs the team had no real #1 WR. Bruce was old and Morgan wasn’t talented enough. But with RB you have Gore who is consistantly in the top 10 RB’s in the league. And Crabs was almost a sure future #1 WR in the NFL while good RB’s are almost a dime-a-dozen. Not saying Spiller is just a good RB but with this draft there are going to be better options at the Niners picks then Spiller.
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 13, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure Spiller would
But how does that label Gore unreliable??
Is it just me or was it because of him that at least half or more of the Niners’ offense had any kind of success this year?
Sorry that was my fault should have clarified
Gore isnt reliable to make it a WHOLE season without being injured. I think he has another 2 yrs MAX. Im not sold on Coffee so would prefer Gore #1 and Spiller #2. Gore crippled us when he went down with injury, Id love to have REAL RB to fill in WHEN he goes down and he will.
by hudd07 on Jan 13, 2010 6:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He's the only RB I'd even consider near the top of the draft
Simply because he has that dynamic playmaking ability that could make him our Percy Harvin.
I wouldn’t be upset if we drafted him…
And the thing that jumps out at me most about his stats?
0 fumbles…period.
this
I saw that too.
I too wouldn’t be upset if we took him early. He’s exciting enough that you just have a hard time not wanting him. Especially if he’s around at 17…
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Don't be stupid
Stupid is thinking ESPN keeps track of NCAAF fumbles well.
I remember people were saying the same about Coffee’s 0 fumbles when in actuality Coffee was a very prone fumbler in college.
If you don’t believe me just press Ctrl+F and type in Spiller fumble after clicking this article
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/gamecenter/recap/NCAAF_20091128_CLEM@SC
not so fast
i actually was watching that game against the gamecocks, the fumble was on the handoff.
Only 1 fumble in 4 years
http://nfldraftdog.newsvine.com/_news/2009/12/08/3605553-cj-spiller-receives-heisman-snub
still is a reason to not follow ESPN’s fumbling column.
Who are these new authors on NN?
or anything on ESPN
"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.
I love the Percy Harvin comparison
That’s what I’m looking at. A PR/KR, 3rd down back, and bonus slot receiver. Plus throw him in every 3rd or 4th drive. I don’t see how he DOESN’T help the team. I really, really would like him as a pick, along with an OL.
He's been compared a lot to Chris Johnson
and we all know how good CJ has been the last 2 seasons as he’s basically a home run threat every time he touches the ball. Spiller even returns kicks to boot and SF sure can use a dynamic returner.
However, I think he’s a top 10 pick unless he slips up in the combine or some injury comes up so 49ers likely won’t have the chance to draft him unless they trade up.
Win the inning.
It all just depends… I think a majority of the first 10 picks will be defense this draft… we pick 13, so there is a 50/50 chance for it to happen I would say.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
It only takes one team to like him
and the Raiders are in the top 10 with Al already drooling at Spiller’s linear speed. He’d be a “sexy” pick for the 49ers like Crabtree was but I still think they should get an O-lineman and possibly a DB first.
Win the inning.
by Scooter Ellis on Jan 13, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely
Too many OL’s to pass up that are being projected in the first round. And there’s a guy out there named Arenas who apparently returns punts rather well and is a DB, although he’s listed as a CB and we need a S.
i keep wondering though
is having your top 20 drafted RB return punts about as bad as having your 80 million dollar Corner return punts? Maybe not quite, but close?
I hope we draft multiple guys with return skills.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
This is a sensible point
and one that I’ve been thinking about myself
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
Is anyone going to spend a Top 10 pick on a RB with limited snaps? Looking at the stat sheet it seemed he didn’t even get a full amount of touches in the college game.
I think he is probably a 15-20 pick at the highest. Successful NFL running backs make plays between the tackles. Hitting the home run ball in college isn’t a good indicator of sucess, see Reggie Bush.
Reggie Bush rarely ran in between tackles
I watched every single Clemson game this year. Spiller does… Bush dances around too much, Spiller hits the hole and goes like Chris Johnson…. there is a major difference between Bush and Spiller.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Spiller > Bush
But Spiller really doesn’t run between the tackles.
He bounces runs to the outside way too much even when there is a hole right in front of him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
Untrue
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
He bounces outside when a hole closes quickly, yes, but not for the heck of it
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
The drafparty.com video proves my point
Why didn’t you put that one up?
It shows Spiller just bouncing to the outside and just outrunning everyone when he still could have gotten a nice gain going straight ahead.
..Maybe the plays were designed that way though….if your RB can outrun everyone, just put him on the edge on every play.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Edge doesn’t work too good in the NFL. It can work but not on an every down type of deal like in the 80’s and 90’s.
I watched alot more (every game to be exact) of Clemson than the few highlights shown on draftparty.com. He can run between the tackles… he can run anywhere you want him to run it. I am not convinced by a couple highlights you found on youtube, sorry, you’re going to have to come up with something better than that. And since you admitted already that you didn’t get to watch all that much of him, then the only thing you have is internet vids. You can’t knock a guy who innovates when there is absolutely no where to go. The few Clemson fans below know what I am talking about… and anyone else who watched him all season long.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I said I saw two games and the youtube vid.
Don’t try to make it seem like I’m just going by a video on the internet.
The thing is that he’s not “innovating”… Those plays are probably drawn up that way.
And in certain occasions he can still pick up a good 5 or so yards by following his blockers.
It may have worked in college but in the NFL he’s not going to be able to bounce every run to the outside.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Chris Johnson got 251 touches last year
before he proved he could handle being the every down back. He got 358 this year.
I wouldn’t be horribly opposed to taking Spiller if he fell to us. I think McC is a BPA kind of guy so he’s there with 1a I can see us grabbing him.
He’ll provide some relief to Gore and keep the defense honest in run support.
Some things I like about Spiller:
*His leg strength. Look at the size of his legs. That means he has the power to run between the tackles. Chris Johnson doesn’t have near the size of legs of Spiller.
*Breakaway speed. Spiller really does have the ability to put on an extra gear when he gets into space.
*Vision. Looking at his highlight clips you can see his vision and how he can see where defenders are coming from and move to avoid them.
*Juking ability. You can also see he has the moves to stop and turn on a dime. He’ll be a great back in the NFL.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Spiller
If he’s even remotely useful as a receiver out of the back field or has the ability to pick up blitzes, he will be an extremely dangerous weapon on any team he ends up on.
How are his hands? Is he a really good returner?
I think the thing people are overlooking is how desperate the 49ers MIGHT be for a player that can handle kick returns, too. If Spiller can return kicks and has the ability to at least look like a 3-down RB, I see very little reason for McCloughan to look past him (unless an offensive lineman rated higher falls to the same spot).
He can catch too
Averaged 14 YPC. 66 receptions for a total of 503 yards. Gore averaged 7.8 yards per catch.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
The 49ers...
… (as well as a lot of other teams) are in dire need of playmakers. Even if Spiller only comes in and does an elite job at kick returns while being mediocre at running back, he will already be of extreme value to the 49ers.
That's stupid.
A KR no matter how great is not worth a 1st round pick. You want a mediocre running back, just look at Coffee. You want 2 Coffee’s?
Right.
Because Coffee has value outside of being a mediocre back?
I’m not advocating the 49ers take a player just because he can return kicks. For all intents and purposes, Spiller looks like he could be a multi-faceted tool for ANY offense. He can provide speed on outside-type runs, screen passes, dump offs, etc. He could return kicks. Heck, it looks like he may even be able to split wide on occasion.
Coffee is far from a mediocre running back right now. He’s below average until he develops a better feel/vision, as that’s important for a player like him. Spiller is a COMPLETELY different type of player.
agreed
Coffee has spoiled. Spiller is going to step in at #2 and take over for Gore in a year or two. In the meantime he fills a LOT of positional needs for us.
by hudd07 on Jan 13, 2010 6:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The case for Spiller is made nicely here:
Even if Spiller only comes in and does an elite job at kick returns while being mediocre…
AND
Spiller looks like he could be a multi-faceted tool for ANY offense
I’m not totally sold on Spiller as a 1st-rounder (like him more at #17 than at #13, and in either case only after the Niners have gotten or will assuredly get their OT), but the help Spiller would be as a KR/PR and a change-of-pace back shouldn’t be underestimated.
Consider this: we know the Niners (under the Raye-gun offense) like to go 3 wides with Gore and VD. They have often motioned to an empty set out of that formation, with Gore splitting out wide. If Spiller lines up in the backfield on 3rd and 5, and then motions out wide, you’ve got a speedy guy who can legitimately burn his cover man (which Gore, most of us will admit, is not). This would be the way he’d be an immediate asset for the Niners.
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
to clarify,
I don’t like Spiller in the first round for the Niners, mostly because I think his pad level is too high and because he bounces everything outside. Those are things that can be worked on. He does have first round talent as far as I’ve seen, though.
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
we could have 2 backs and 2 TE in, and still have passing personnel out.
by hellaninersfan on Jan 13, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
On an offense...
… that likes to exploit mismatches, putting Gore and a guy like Spiller in the same back field and motioning one or the other out has the potential for TONS of mismatches.
How are you going to run out of that formation though?
Delanie Walker isn’t a good blocker and I don’t see the 49ers ever running the option like Miami does.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
The 49ers...
… are already running quite a bit with Walker in the game and Gore without a lead blocker. I’m not saying there’s instant success to be had, just pointing out a potential angle of attack.
WHOA
As in the Dolphins?? I didn’t think any NFL team would seriously consider running the option! But I did see the Niners run it in 1987 with replacement players. :)
Jimmy Raye doesn't run the triple option (like in GT)
The idea is to be able to run and pass out of the formation.
If they can’t run effectively out of that formation then other teams will just put a safety on Spiller knowing that it will be a pass.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Question is...
… who then covers Davis and/or Walker?
The other safety on Davis
A LB on Walker and one-on-one on the outside?
But a team would probably bring in extra DBs knowing they can’t run out of that formation as effectively.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
All those are open field skills. The NFL doesn’t have many open field opportunities, most NFL people know this. How often does the RB really have the opportunity to juke a LB or DB?
Great skill set, I just don’t think the game provides enough opportunities to use it which is why I don’t see him as a top pick.
Crabtree’s college highlights had a lot of open field running. How much of that did you see this season?
Did you miss this?
*His leg strength. Look at the size of his legs. That means he has the power to run between the tackles. Chris Johnson doesn’t have near the size of legs of Spiller
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
It equates to leg strength
which is the most important component of running between the tackles.
That doesn’t even matter though—if we drafted him it wouldn’t be to run between the tackles. That’s what Gore/Coffee are for. It would be to be the shifty, bounce it outside, change of pace back.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
No the most important component of running between the tackles is vision, followed by the ability to setup your blockers with angles to block. It’s a craft more than brute force. Marcus Allen was about as thin as I am, but he could run between the tackles as well as anyone in NFL history.
He has great vision too
You can see him scanning the field and avoiding tacklers.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Man
Clearly none of you guys ever played RB in high school or college or beyond. Leg strength isn’t all that is required to run between tackles, especially in the NFL. You can have all the leg strength in the world but if you don’t have that natural instinct when you get hit and black out for a bit to keep churning your legs you’ll go nowhere. Imagine Patrick Willis hitting the hole, he’s not going to stop moving forward, and if you don’t also, you’re done. Vision isn’t as important for running inside. Not to mention why is everyone talking about Spiller like he’ll be our starting back? If we got him, it’d be a great pick since he can be a return man as well as be the #2 guy who gets less than 10 carries a game. Coffee and Robinson have proven themselves useless in the running game, Moran Norris is our 2nd best runner, but luckily we don’t need them as long as we have Gore.
Vision isn’t as important for running inside.
Really? Where is it more important, then? Running outside where physical ability can trump vision?
Evan Royster vs Stephfon Green
Royster – 40 Time ~ 4.53ish
Green – 40 Time ~ 4.39ish
Royster – Amazing vision
Green – Mediocre vision
Outside there’s more 1 on 1 matchups.. Inside finding creases vs the box.
Royster vs Green is really a good example of which trumps which in what areas of the field.
Who are these new authors on NN?
I think we're...
… in agreement here (my sarcasm didn’t seem to translate, as usual). Vision is very important outside. Physical ability (the ability to make people miss) is very important on the outside, especially one on one.
I want him
His hype is probably going to get him into the top 10. Like How the Jets traded up for Sanchez and the Browns trading up for Quinn. Even though he may be a pick 15-20 talent, take him. There will be offensive lineman at 16. Spiller would be perfect fit for us. If the 49ers take Spiller I will almost be as excited as I was when we drafted Crabtree.
I sure hope you're not trying to imply that C.J. Spiller is the 2nd best player available this year....
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
I think Drew is just doing these in order of his mancrushes :-)
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I just assumed that since Ndamukong Suh was the first, he would go in that order.
I was expecting some Eric Berry today.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Berry?
Yeah, what I meant was that I though he would go in the top 100 players order.
It’s pretty much a known fact that Ndamukong Suh and Eric Berry are the two best players this year (doesn’t mean they’ll be picked No.1 and No.2 though…).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
This is going to be in random order to break it up since it is in fact 100 days.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Ok then.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
hey Drew
any chance you could include height and weight in these?
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
I will
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Now why would wjacklope want to know your height and weight?
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Dunno but I guess I’ll put it there… you think he wants to know my hair color too? lol
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I would think he would.. maybe you should post a photo above the player's photo...
You never know.. you could end up as a 1st round draft pick!
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
A/S/L?
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 13, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
I remember the first time I saw this on the internet
I thought the person was calling me an [site decorum]
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
100 days of draft nonsense
How about 50 days? that way it’s less work, the SB will be over, it’ll be just about that time for the combine.
Who are these new authors on NN?
You're not doing the work, so why complain?
Well, we're waiting....
by drummer on Jan 13, 2010 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I feel like there's
a whole lot of optimism I have to strip from some of these newer posters and I’m not ready to commit just yet.
I need more time to prepare.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Thanks for bringing that to my attention
but I’m getting the sense a lot of people are fantasizing that Spiller will be picked by the 49ers(Which he probably will), but they’re not seeing the bigger picture on why that’s not the best idea. Just like the Crabtree pick, good player but their are needs that McC decides to ignore.
another reason why 50 days would make more sense.. would be that way we can compare combine results.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Combine information
We’ll have other posts related to that. These 100 player posts are just as useful giving general background information about players, even if it doesn’t include combine information and the like. And people seem to generally enjoy these thus far.
by David Fucillo on Jan 13, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
I don't agree with the 50 days thing
But I’m glad I’ll have someone else to help me disagree with Drew K and new/random fans that come on here screaming: C.J. Spiller is AWESUMZZ
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
It's all fun and games until you get to about player 78#
and it’s an overload and someone develops hemorrhage.
Who are these new authors on NN?
true
As the site has developed over the last three years we’ve been posting more on a daily basis. I don’t expect any days where one of these players is the only post, so hopefully that will cut down on the hemorrhaging.
by David Fucillo on Jan 13, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I for one...
love this feature, and we’re only 2 days in. I think Drew K does a great job and saves all of us a ton of work cobbling together info from various other blogs—not unlike the way Ninjames saves us work cobbling together 49ers-relevant in the Golden Nuggets. Sure, the Niners are not going to draft more than, say, 4-5 of the 100 prospects, but it seems a good way to 1) drive site traffic during the offseason, and 2) be more informed about who the Niners do end up picking—and about who they don’t pick. Let the prognosticating/wishing/hoping/second-guessing begin!
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
Exactly
I’m sick of someone wanting a player when they know nothing about them. Worst case scenario, you learn about a guy so you are more educated when you talk about him or us drafting him.
Yesterday we learned about Suh, so now, you all can get over the fact we can’t have him. This also eliminates the posts of where Drew picks Spiller in draft, people don’t have to ask, who is he, he can link this post.
I’m TOTALLY onboard with these posts.
I'm just awaiting that
newest 10forTech or CrabtreeIZcLuTch fan that comes here spreading their praise over a certain mancrush.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Drew K is already here
lol
jk
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
I miss him too
He was remarkably balanced on Crabtree’s holdout situation, and he was right about Crabtree’s talent—or it looks that way at this point.
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
I think the discussion..
has been fairly pragmatic, and again, Drew’s posts are more info for someone like myself who doesn’t have the time to seek out info potential NCAA players, whether they are 49er considerations or not. Drew addresses that in his summary of what team could possibly be interested according to Drew’s projected slot. It also seems that Drew is focusing on the projected Studs in the draft, the Studs who would bring much fascination when it comes combine time.
I’m not a Mock draft guy. I gave up speculating on drafts after Druckenmiller. Yet, I find this entertaining as well as useful.
Well, we're waiting....
time
We have a lot of time at our disposal this offseason and I’d rather not rush through a bunch of players in a truncated schedule. I think spreading it over 100 days is a novel feature that gives people an additional reason to come back here each day.
You can always come back at a later time when you’ve figured out your time to prepare.
by David Fucillo on Jan 13, 2010 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
Don't worry
I’ll hold it down for now.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
It's great to have you aboard
I’ll continue to do my research on the draft and use simplistic undeniable reasoning why Spiller shouldn’t be drafted over an OT.. but which OT? That’s what I’ll have to do research on.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Just in case you're wondering
I would rather have two offensive linemen drafted in the first round (see my mock draft for my picks).
However, if we were to draft Spiller I wouldn’t run out and shoot myself because the pick is so bad.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
OTs
There are many good OTs available (contrary to the general opinion).
Most of the people on here like Bryan Bulaga (as do I)
However, there are a few highly rated OTs that might have some issues:
Bruce Campbell is somewhat injury prone, but if he can overcome that he may have the highest upside of any OT in the draft.
Anthony Davis looks slow in games and will get beaten by the speed rush at the NFL level because of his slow feet.
Trent Williams has a lot of problems but people are still enamored by his production last season.
Some guys that aren’t mentioned frequently:
Charles Brown is the one guy to keep an eye on at the combine. He has tremendous athletic ability and the only knock on him is his size. If he shows up a good 10-15 pounds heavier at the combine and proves it doesn’t affect his play he could rocket up draft boards.
Jason Fox has dealt with some injuries this season but he’s a very solid OT.
He may fall to the 2nd round or so because of his injuries, but I feel he can be a steal if he overcomes his injury history.
There are a few other OTs but none that are worth picking in the top 20.
If you’re using youtube to watch some of these guys, look for the prodraftparty videos.
Unlike the others, they show highlights/lowlights so you can see them at their worst too.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Jason Fox 1st Round? Okay…interesting
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
?
I said he would fall to the 2nd round because of the injuries.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
/facepalm
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
It all depends.
It depends if the Niners can get their tackle with their second #1. I’m not so sure that Spiller will be around for their first pick, much less their second. If he’s available and the Niners can get their big guy, then I say go for him.
by Bob In Beaverton on Jan 13, 2010 3:27 PM PST reply actions
Clemson Fan Here
Being one of the very few Clemson Fans as well as a Niner fan I would have to say that it would be a fantastic pickup to get CJ spiller if he is still available at the second draft spot. The one unmentioned point on Spiller that has yet to be mentioned is that he is a fantastic person. He passed up an opportunity as a mid-high second round pick last year to come back to graduate and finish out as a senior at Clemson. His interviews at the combine will greatly increase his draft stock IMHO. He’s a guy that I can truly see fitting in well to the Singletary atmosphere.
Spiller provides an explosiveness that you can’t get with Gore. If you thought Gore was fast on the breakaway runs this season you have missed a fair amount of the highlights of Spiller. He can immediately shore up the kick return and punt return game and given enough time to rest he can give the niners a back that has speed faster than that of Reggie Bush.
I think the biggest area of concern for me this past year was offensive line and IMO I would rather get a couple proven guys in FA than to chance it on unproven guy. It takes a couple years to get accustomed to the NFL systems and to bulk up to the point where they can compete especially in the NFC West with so many stingy pass rush teams.
Sounds like the real deal.
This guy sounds like what everyone hoped that Kory Sheets would be.
by Bob In Beaverton on Jan 13, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
How do you see him as a slot receiver?
He might be able to workout as a WR. He has Percy Harvin-esque measurables. Since we do have Gore he wouldn’t be used too much as a RB, but I remember how Reggie Bush was used by the Saints his rookie year, playing a lot in the slot and returning kicks.
Who are these new authors on NN?
If Spiller...
… could become what so many people were hoping Bush could become (a swiss-army-knife-type of offensive weapon), he would be a great pick (for any team). Even if he doesn’t carry the ball 15 to 25 times a game as a feature back, it seems that he could potentially be an igniting force.
The thing is...
A guy like Dexter McCluster could also take on that role.
He doesn’t bring the kick/punt return ability and is undersized but can be attained for much less than Spiller.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
McCluster is going to get lit up as a RB in the NFL at 160 Pounds…. not even close to Spiller
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Not if he's used correctly
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
Dexter Carter
couldn’t do anything but return kicks
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
And even he was bigger than McCluster
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Bush never became that role because defenses noticed when the swiss-army-knife was being brought out.
The same problem would exist trying to co-exist Spiller and Gore.
In order to make Gore/Spiller exist you would need the two of them on multiple type downs
Go from a two back set and allow one to go come across just before the snap… who do you follow? Spiller going to the right or Gore possibly going up the middle.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Two-back sets in which one is not a fullback do not exist.
Seriously, look it up in the Niners playbook.
Jimmy Raye told me that if you have two running backs in the game that don’t equal at least 1.5 backs, the world explodes.
Jason Hill is turning the corner!
I think that was a plot to a Tom Clancy novel
I suspect that you think tilting at windmills means something other than what it does.
He would work out fairly well in a slot reciever position. He doesn’t have the size or the bulk to fight off too many blocks, nor is he going to provide the big time block the majority of the time.
He would work out very well in a Bush type role. He gives the niners a different look at RB or even at a slot reciever position. He turned quite a few poorly designed screen plays (like what we so frequently see on third and 10+) into huge gains. Kory sheets reminded me a lot of spiller in preseason play although spiller has a knack for finding the hole moreso than sheets does. Spiller had a huge improvement from his sophomore to junior year in finding and hitting the hole rather than just bouncing the play out trying to turn the corner. This past year was where he truly showed he can consistently run between the tackles for good yardage.
A lot of his return numbers are skewed as well and keep in mind almost all of the return yardages came towards the beginning of the year when teams were still kicking to him. Clemson often was given fantastic field position without him even needing to touch the ball. Pooch and squib kicks were frequent this year for the clemson team and I attribute that to Spillers game changing presence out there. If anyone was able to see the Miami game this year they tested Spiller and got burned big time.
Spiller potentially can be a better player than Bush given he is utilized in a system conducive to his style of play. He’s never going to be a premier back, but he’ll give the niners the potential to open up the playbook significantly.
Don’t get me wrong Gore is a fantastic back, but far to often Gore gets burnt on the swing pass and is wrapped up too quickly more often than not.
I agree with Revan below that the niners would be well suited with Jacoby Ford also returning kicks in the late 3rd-early 4th round as well.
To me it’s a well suited situation for both player and the 49ers. They have been in dire need of a utility player like Spiller.
When we played the Eagles I kept reading about how WE should have drafted D. Jackson
To me, it looks like Spiller is the closet we come to doing that now. The can run, move, is quick and fast and catches the ball. He is also a very good KR/PR.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Do you really want a first round pick returning kicks and punts?
Might as well throw Crabtree out there too.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
In this case yes.
Actually I would prefer (1a) Bulaga and (1b) Iupati but I wouldn’t be unhappy with both Spiller and Bulaga. See how D. Jackson helps the Eagles in the offense and KR/PR.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
He doesn't return kicks (only punts)
And he wasn’t a 1st round pick.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
My mistake on the punts.. and although he wasn't drafted in the 1st round he was rated that high.
The point being Spiller has that kind of talent potential.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
He does have the talent
However, do you really want a guy that’s supposed to be a big playmaker on offense risk injury by returning kicks and punts?
That’s exactly what Singletary says he wants to avoid.
But, Spiller isn’t even the best return-man in the draft.
They could just draft another return specialist on day two or three.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Aren't punts...
.. more dangerous than kickoffs?
Besides, didn’t Harvin return kicks? I don’t know this for sure, but aren’t the Eagles using Maclin as a kick returner, too?
Maclin
Is not being used as a kick returner (that’s Macho Harris).
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:43 AM PST up reply actions
Clemson Student, Niner Fan
I’ve been a fan of the Niners since I was 5 and I’m currently a student at Clemson.
I think Spiller would be a great pick. He’s not as fast as Ford (6 in the video), but I’m pretty sure Ford was making a block. That kick off was during the Miami game and if you go to Youtube you can find the Clemson highlights for that game and see for yourself.
Also, keep in mind that Spiller played behind a horrible offensive line last year and a mediocre one this year AND had turftoe since the first game and possibly a knee injury as well and still played through it. He’s a competitor, a team player, and has great integrity. This is a guy that won’t be getting into trouble, that’s going to work hard, and is going to put the team above himself. He’s a great fit even with Coffee and Gore on the roster. He can catch well enough to line up at receiver or motion out to there pre-snap. He can return, which, in the battle of field position, might have been underrated by the Niners this year.
The net’s probably full of easy-to-find stories about CJ and Clemson, and the amount of respect that Coach Swinney (clemson’s current head coach and the assistant who recruited CJ out of florida) and CJ have for each other. He’s a great guy.
But if we don’t happen to get him, if Jacoby Ford is somehow around in the 2nd or 3rd round, he’d be worth a shot. He’s a pretty good returner as well.
That offensive line
Didn’t look so bad here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIFwBp0xVPU
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
Compared to the line at say, Alabama, our line is not good at all. We had to replace nearly all our starters last year. Technically our line returned all 5 starters last year, but they’ve had their problems. I don’t think you’d find many analysts or experts who would call the offensive line at Clemson this year a strength.
We do have a great runblocking fullback in Chad Diehl. I believe he’s a senior and is graduating. Might be worth a look as an undrafted FA if he isn’t taken, but I guess that guy we just signed is going to compete with Miller and Norris next year.
Fellow CU fan here: I think that kickoff return was against the Terps
You can see a Terps helmet come in shortly after 25 sec and then the continuation plays later showing the block on a Terps player
Spiller only had one shoe on at the time. I can’t imagine running with one sock on the turf all bouncing up and down. Also, Ford won the 60m NCAA national championship with a 6.53 last year for crying out loud and has posted a 10.01 sec 100m. That’s not a linebacker passing Spiller. Meanwhile, poor Spiller only managed a 6.62 60m and a 10.22 100m. Poor guy. LOL
Gore and Spiller in the same back field!?
could give us the best “Smash and Dash” in the league. But only if he falls to us. And i wouldnt want to see him returning kicks. Go get Cribbs or take that Arenas kid if hes still around. They are built to return kicks.
That's just it. If we got both Spiller and Arenas.. we would have a choice..
and help the Running, passing, KR/PR at the same time for Spiller
Arenas would be a good CB and KR/PR.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
When has Smash n' Dash worked?
Panthers have Smash and more Smash
Giants have big Smash and little Smash
Miami has Smash w/ Dash and Smash w/ Dash
Two recent teams with Smash n’ Dash
Saints are getting rid of Dash
Titans already got rid of Smash
Baltimore Ravens have Smash and Dash still.
So do the New York Jets
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I dont consider Spiller dash but thats where we disagree.
I think a lot of teams have a change of pace back, thats what Spiller would be, but big enough to be effectvie running between the tackles.
by hudd07 on Jan 13, 2010 7:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
No they don't
Ray Rice takes almost all of his carries in between the tackles.
And Shonn Greene is slower (but stronger) than Thomas Jones.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
I would be very surprised
If this guy is still around by the 13th pick. But if he is, and McCloughan goes by his rep as a BPA guy, I think the Niners will have him.
Although
I don’t know how he will fit into he would fit into the offensive scheme. That option pass tells me he’s not conservative enough for Raye (tongue-in-cheek.)
I wouldn't be surprised
Before the bowl games he was regarded as a top 25-ish player.
Now all of a sudden he’s a top 10 prospect?
Please…
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by SportsChicken on Jan 13, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions
hey drew
just wanted to give you some props for this. I’m loving the idea and I’m loving the information so far. I know quite a bit about some of the bigger names in the draft, but I am pretty clueless when it comes to the later round guys and I can definitely see these posts helping me see what some of these other guys are about. Thanks for putting your time into this for us, it’s much appreciated,.
"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.
Trenches
If the 49ers were smart they would spend both first round picks on the trenches..A RT for the offense and a pass rusher for the defense..They need players and depth in the trenches
We can find RB’s later..
True, but the more I think about it
The more I feel like we need depth at RB considering Frank has missed at least two games in the past two seasons. I don’t see Coffee as a true starter, and Spiller provides versatility to contribute well even if not as the #1 back. If he drops to the 16th or 17th pick, I definitely see him as a viable pick. There’s no way he drops much further than that.
A NT could also be important
The team isn’t going to keep Aubrayo Franklin around forever with franchise tags every year.
As soon as Franklin leaves NT becomes a huge need.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
Trends...
We have to be careful not to follow draft trends which follow a few successful players that were drafted in previous years. When Flacco and Ryan were immediately successful, the Jets thought the same would go for Sanchez. More often than not these super-quick, undersized RBs are too limited in their contributions to risk a first round pick. It is well known that a RB is only as good as his O-Line (and OC). Coaches line Shanahan proved year after year that any decent college RB will do well with a good O-Line. I say go O-Line and Safety! (also a new OC and line coach)
Someone with some sense
Finally.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Sanchez
What does Sanchez not have going for him? 1# Defense, arguably the best OL in the NFL, Special Teamers to set him up with great field position, 1# Run game, Premier receivers in Edwards Cotchery and Keller, an OC that’s creative and simplifies the playbook for him.. yet Sanchez still throws 20 INTs?
Don’t be fooled Sanchez is on his way to becoming a huge NFL bust.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Premier receivers?
Nuh-uh.
Edwards is horribly inconsistent and Cotchery is no better than a No.2.
Keller is nothing special either (his big game last week came against a back-up LB)
I don’t really like Sanchez too much, but he doesn’t have premier receivers.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Are you kidding?
Edwards may have trouble catching the pass but he’s a threat no doubt. His athletic ability is near tops in the league.
Cotchery could be a #1 on a few teams in the NFL.. his body control is amazing as shown vs Cinci (twice I believe).. you have to be located in the tri-state area to understand he doesn’t get enough credit.
Keller is a mismatch that’s not used enough.. Jet beat writers/ reporters complain that he’s not being used enough in fact. The reason is because Schottenheimer is afraid to throw the ball because Sanchez nearly self destructed in the middle of the year. Just notice how easy Sanchez has it next week.. Jets running game is tough to stop.. which sets up PA (which the jets ran 7 times last week) cutting the field in half for Sanchez. But if sanchez isn’t running PA he’s throwing to the flats or quick slant routes.. I watch way too much Jets football.
Who are these new authors on NN?
I had 3 Jets players on my fantasy team this season (Cotchery, Keller, and Greene)
I saw all but 2 Jets games this season.
Cotchery makes for a great No.2 but can’t get separation against some of the better CBs.
Keller drops too many passes, runs horrible routes (worse than Delanie Walker’s) and rarely makes any kind of effort on inaccurate passes.
And I just don’t trust Edwards, as soon as he got there Sanchez actually got worse.
He would just force the ball to Edwards, only to see it bounce out of his hands and into a defender.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
Clemson's line has been a weakness..
The last 2 years, Clemson’s o-line has been mediocre at best. Behind a line that was nothing special this year, Spiller dominated in spite of them.
The he will feel at home with our offensive line haha… Btw, I watched every Clemson game this year even though I am an OU fan, I found them to be a very exciting team to watch this year on both sides of the ball.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Well if we need a Safety next year, there’s a guy named DeAndre McDaniel who might be good. Not sold on him yet in terms of his possible success pro, but he’s fun to watch in college. There are character issues there, though.
Oh trust me
Go in to the mock draft threads… I have been promoting McDaniel left and right. I was hoping he would declare this year. He plays similar to Eric Berry… and yeah, I heard about his on campus scuffle but I think he is on the right path now.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Couple of points ...
… which I’m surprised nobody has made. Firstly, on the point that Clemson has a less than stellar history in producing top NFL players, is it worth an honorary mention of a Mr Dwight Clarke, now back in the Niners front office? Secondly, how can we be discussing a fleet footed RB without someone mentioning that CJ SPILLER IS OUR FUTURE? Come on fellas, that’s basic Niners Nation decorum.
"This could be another Very Special Team" ... Superbowl winning Niners lineman Dan Audick ...
by LondonNiner on Jan 13, 2010 11:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Cause he isn't our future
I can see the 49ers selecting Spiller with the 17th pick right after they select a TE with the 13th pick. I hear there is a good punting prospect they are looking to draft in 4th Round.
Is TIm Tebow the TE?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
He’ll get moved to TE if the Taser package cannot be worked out.
Seriously, spending 1st Round pick on 2nd RB when the 1st RB is one of the leagues best?
I'm not advocating the selection
I’ve been fighting it since it was first mentioned.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 14, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
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