All-Pro Patrick Willis not good enough to get votes for Defensive POY
by David Fucillo on Jan 14, 2010 4:06 PM PST
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PrintThe news that Packers CB Charles Woodson won defensive player of the year is a day old. Earlier today the NFL announced it's All-Pro team, where all-world linebacker Patrick Willis was named for the second time in three years. More importantly, he had the second most votes (49 out of 50) behind only RB Chris Johnson.
The voting for the Defensive POY broke down as follows:
Charles Woodson - 28 votes
Darrelle Revis - 14 votes
Elvis Dumervil - 3 votes
Darren Sharper - 3 votes
Jared Allen - 2 votes
That's right, our man Bamm Bamm finished with 0 votes for defensive player of the year. I'm certainly not stunned because the guys getting votes are extremely talented and put up some monster numbers this year. I do think Willis deserved more recognition for this award because he was an impact player. Leading the NFL in tackles is certainly a solid achievement, but it's possible to put up big tackle numbers that are rather empty (see Smith, Derek). I don't think that's the case with Willis, but I suppose voters might consider that. It's a shame, but at least he was an all-pro.
One person who continues to annoy me is Rex Ryan. Darrelle Revis had a great year for the Jets, and Rex Ryan thinks it's a joke that he didn't win the award.
"I wasn't going to comment on it," Ryan told reporters. "But I would like to congratulate the people that voted for Darrelle Revis. These guys obviously really know the game. And you've got to look at all the numbers, not just a number about this, or this stat or that stat."
Ryan had high praise for Revis.
"For me, this is the best year a corner has ever had, the most impact a corner has ever had in the National Football League. That's my opinion. But apparently that wasn't the opinion of everybody who voted."
Was Charles Woodson really that un-deserving? I certainly would have had no problem with Revis winning the award, but did Woodson clearly not deserve to win at all? I know stats don't tell the whole story, but even still, Woodson has some impressive numbers. He was tied for the NFL lead in interceptions and touchdown returns, and has no problem getting physical, finishing with 66 tackles. Revis had a great season, but I kind of think Rex is going overboard.
The other question to come out of this: Is Rex Ryan the biggest blowhard coach the NFL has had in recent memory?
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The problem...
Is that he didn’t do anything out of the ordinary.
All he did was play like the best MLB in the NFL right now and after the last couple of years its to be expected by him now.
This is why Willis should get votes
So next year if Woodson has identical stats to this year, he wont win, because its now expected of him?
by sundaysfinest on Jan 14, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
All he did was play like the best MLB in the NFL right now
How does that not at least get 1 vote? Ray Lewis got DMVP 2 years in his 13 seasons. I guess it is harder to earn DMVP as a linebacker but I think he should have at least got a single vote…at least.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
He doesn't play on a playoff team
If you look at who got votes, they all play on a playoff team.
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Exc. Elvis Dumervil
Never use a big word where a diminutive alternative would suffice.
by YoungWillis on Jan 14, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
Rex Ryan is a joke.
He is the Madonna of NFL coaches. More than any other team right now I want the Jets to be eliminated from the Playoffs just to spite his smug remarks.
If only the Jets hadn’t drafted Sanchez, Tebow and Ryan could have been great pals.
I was "Deific16"
The cake is a lie.
by Sultan of Seitan on Jan 14, 2010 4:35 PM PST reply actions
Agree with you and Ninja... I hate bitch ass Rex Ryan...
Every since we filed the tampering charges against the jets, his panties went into a bunch and he’s all I hope we play them… I agree jets suck….
Rex Ryan is a, and I hope I don't need to [site decorum] this... a douchebag.
He basically said “If you didn’t vote for Revis you’re an idiot.” Revis is great, him, Nmandi and Woodson are the three best corners in the league, Revis truly is an island, to be honest but Woodson winning it is not at all a travesty.
I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?
Such a... what you said.
I couldn’t believe when he said “I wish we were playing them [the 49ers]” when the tampering charges came out. I think he learned his lessons on how to settle matters of right or wrong from professional wrestling (or Klingons :P) .
Someone has to get that man a Chili Cheese Hoagie
Who decides the All-Pro team, because they kept BamBam pretty close to their hearts with 49/50 votes. Good stuff!
Congrats to Woodson
But if I had to choose between Woodson and Revis, this year, I would take Revis.
I would have to argue for Woodson
More TD’s and he forced 13 turnovers hisself. More tackles, so he was big in the passing game and run game.
I don't need an Educashun............................................................-W Paige
PW
he did come only 1 vote shy of unanimous all pro votes though.
rex ryan is ridiculous
he reminds me of my ex girlfriends know-it-all douchebag brother and that is NOT a good thing. Hopefully he learns to shut up.
"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.
Mot, IMO
The numbers don’t lie, plus Revis’ team was let into the playoffs. Colts were gonna beat that @$$
I don't need an Educashun............................................................-W Paige
Getting into the playoffs has nothing to do with the individual player.
Revis is a better cover corner than Woodson, and is the more reliable corner. Woodson has a penchant for making big plays, however. It’s a toss-up, but a majority of the league would say skill-vs-skill, Revis is better.
I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?
by James Brady on Jan 14, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Revis is better than Woodson
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Patrick Willis: 152 tackles, 3 FF, 3 INT, 4 sacks
David Hawthorne: 117 tackles, 2 FF, 3 INT, 4 sacks
Willis is a fantastic player and the soul of a great defense. But DPotY is a difficult award to gain, and considering the high quality defensive play all around the league, maybe it isn’t a travesty that he didn’t get any votes.
Holmgren would have drafted Crabtree.
Based off of where his defense ranked, he should have gotten a vote
Being that his team was not a playoff team, is probably why he didn’t get consideration.
I don't need an Educashun............................................................-W Paige
David Hawthorne is the new Lofa Tatupu?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
No.
Hawthorne is just a great value for an UDFA. I’m just saying that Willis is more than what his stats indicate, and it’s fairly evident that the AP valued stats a lot, hence Woodson winning the award.
Holmgren would have drafted Crabtree.
by Fearless Frog on Jan 15, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
I see....
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Should have gotten a vote over Dumervil
But Elvis’s sack numbers were pretty impressive for a midget.
I'm really not surprised he received no votes
I know most of you are being good and loyal 49er fans with your opinions, but you have to remember how the voting works. This is not like many other such votes where the panelists get multiple picks. Each person gets a single vote, and that vote is for the single best player in their opinion. Based on the votes he got for All-Pro, it is obvious that some of the voters probably consider him in the top 5, and even top 3 of defenders in the league. If the vote was for Linebacker of the Year, he’d be a top contender. He is clearly that good. But it is a lot harder to argue him as the best defensive player in the entire league.
What I think is much more surprising than Willis not getting any votes is that 5 voters thought Dumervil and Allen were the DPOY. I could maybe squint and argue for Sharper, but I really think it was a two horse race. Some awesome DB play this year.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH???
SHOW ME ONE…….ANYONE ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BALL THAT HAS DOMINATED THE WAY THAT WILLIS HAS???? SINCE HE HAS COME INTO THE LEAGUE HE HAS DONE NOTHING BUT BE THE NEXT COMING OF " MIKE SINGLETARY ", EYES SPEED AND QUICKNESS TO THE BALL, COVERING RUNNING BACKS, STOPPING THE RUN AND RUSHING THE QB!!! AND LETS NOT FORGET THE 90+ YARD INTERCEPTION RETURN FOR A TOUCHDOWN!!!! SHOW ME A LINEBACKER THAT CAN DO THAT!!!! THE PPL AT ESPN NEED TO GET THERE HEADS ON STRAIGHT IF THEY THINK ANYONE IS BETTER!!!!!!!! YES WOODSON GOT IT, BUT WILLIS DESERVED IT AND SO DID REVIS OF THE JETS!!!! ******ON THE DRAFT SIDE OF THE BALL THE 49ERS SHOULD PICK SPILLER FROM CLEMSON. HE IS A GAME BREAKER FROM ANYWHERE YOU LINE HIM UP. A TOTAL MISMATCH FOR A LINEBACKER OR SAFETY.*
What was the point of adding the last sentence?
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
******ON THE DRAFT SIDE OF THE BALL THE 49ERS SHOULD PICK SPILLER FROM CLEMSON. HE IS A GAME BREAKER FROM ANYWHERE YOU LINE HIM UP. A TOTAL MISMATCH FOR A LINEBACKER OR SAFETY.*
So the flood of [site decorums] into NN begins….
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 15, 2010 6:36 PM PST up reply actions
Great job Patrick Willis
I wonder who the 1 person didn’t vote for himw?
Anyway, Woodson certainly failed in the game against Cardinals along with the rest of the Packers defense. So he didn’t step up.
On the other hand, Revis got an interception in the Wildcard playoff game.
Players aren’t evaluated in their playoff performances for the award votes but its something to consider.
It’s a popularity contest man… the most popular guys throughout the entire NFL whom also are playing top notch always come out on top… P Willis would’ve had to had at least 2 more ints that were both taken back for touchdowns and a fumble recovery for a touchdown… Than he might have had a chance, but seriously I could care less what the entire NFL votes on. Us Niner fans will always consider P Willis the number 1 defensive player of the year as long as he keeps up what hes always done..
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