Kurt Schottenheimer joins the list of 49ers special teams coach candidates
by David Fucillo on Jan 16, 2010 10:21 AM PST
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PrintThis isn't breaking news, as rlott#42 posted a FanShot yesterday, but it's still worth some additional discussion. Yesterday, Mike Singletary interviewed Kurt Schottenheimer for the team's vacant special teams coaching position. Schottenheimer is brother to Marty and has worked with him extensively in the past. Apparently Marty wanted to hire Kurt in San Diego as defensive coordinator, and that was part of what led to Marty's firing.
Schottenheimer hasn't been a special teams coach since 1994. He served as Chiefs ST coach from 1989-1994 and in the same position with the Browns in 1987 and 1988. Since then, Kurt's been defensive coordinator for the Chiefs, Redskins, and Lions. His last position was secondary coach for the Green Bay Packers from 2006-2008. Much of that defensive staff was let go at the end of 2008.
My concern is in the fact that Schottenheimer hasn't been a special teams coach in over 15 years. I don't know enough about special teams coaches, but is that something that would be a problem? Any thoughts?
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Singletary's Personnel Decisions
As much as we all seem to like Mike, it seems that he’s made some questionable personnel decisions:
Firing Mike Martz (not necessarily so bad) but then replacing him with Jimmy Raye.
Cutting Allen Rossum without viable replacement.
Firing Al Everest : Didn’t the 49ers have the top ST units under Everest? One “off” season and he gets released? Smells of “scapegoat.” To make matters worse, who is he going to replace him with? Some guy who hasn’t coached the position in 15 years?
I know Singletary is inexperienced as a HC, and it’s going to be hard getting very good coordinators to join crappy teams under new coaches. But I still don’t think Sing has shown he can handle a job this big.
Hopefully he gets it soon!
by brundylop on Jan 16, 2010 10:29 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
+1
It’s like Singletary acts on impulse without thinking through the consequences.
Who are these new authors on NN?
Actually
Sing is considered to be very deliberate with his decision making, whether hiring a coach or making changes in the lineup. Too deliberate for some, if you recall the search for an OC last year. Assuming that Everest did not leave of his own volition (remember that his contract had expired so he was a FA), Sing likely had been deliberating this decision for some time. Just because it’s a surprise to us fans does not make it impulsive.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
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Mike Martz needed to be fired, Nolan let that wind bag start JTO Sullivan, a career loser, at QB in a season in which we were suppose to turn it around. Allen Rossum being cut was a big mistake, I have to agree with that. It is a ST coach though, Al Everest had a horrible ST roster as far as return men, however we have good ST players, so of course it will appear that his ST’s coaching was good. I don’t think our ST’s are gonna hurt by letting Everest go, Sing has interviewed 3 candidates, at least he isn’t jumping the gun, this position doesn’t need to be filled until before OTA’s, I mean the Superbowl hasn’t been played yet. It seems to me that people are overreacting. This whole scapegoat thing doesn’t make sense when Sing has gotten up in front of the media and taken a lot of blame. A new returnman, and by week 2 we will have forgotten about everest, although any mistake by the ST’s will be pointed at Sing, due to narrowmindedness when it comes to being a fan. What I mean, is that this will be pointed out every time a mistake is made and it won’t be right, players make mistakes and coaches don’t have to execute.
Sing is fine as far as making that decision. I personally don’t see how anyone can rate a ST coach. If Andy lee wasn’t Andy Lee our punt team wouldn’t look that good. Joe the Toe makes his FG’s and that makes the ST coach look good. When playeres don’t perform it’s personnel and never the coach. Doesn’t make sense.
You can say it however you want, talk about it all day I don't care, bottom line is it needs to be done now. Hesitation is an asset of the WEAK, and around here Mutha(site decorum) we get (site decorum) done!!!
You make fair points
My problem with the Martz firing was that Sing fired Martz and then hired…. Jimmy Raye? I think most people thought it was a good idea to get rid of Martz, but his replacement has been questionable, to say the least. Who knows, with a better O-Line and 1 season’s experience the offense will be great. Let’s hope!
As for Everest having a horrible return men roster, is that his fault? My knowledge was that the the GM and coach make the personnel decision. I don’t think it was Everest’s fault that the team had no one better than Arnaz Battle these last few seasons returning punts. That would be more of a GM/Coach thing, no?
I think the ST coach has a lot to do with the coverage units, which have been one of the 49er’s strengths recently. Even if Andy Lee gets a 50 yd kick, it doesn’t really matter once the coverage team gives up 30 on the return.
We have to consider
That Everest didn’t want to be here any longer. HIs contract had expired so Sing couldn’t force him to stay if he didn’t want to. He was hired by Nolan and may not have liked working for Sing. Or wants to work with another HC in the league whom he knows better. That’s not uncommon, which is why even the best position coaches have so many teams on their resume. Even Bobby April.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
The Martz firing was the best thing to happen to the offense IMO.
Come on, we all know that Davis is our most dangerous weapon, Martz said he would use him before the season than, that untrustworthy P.O.S. did the opposite. Jimmy Raye had a less productive offense, that gave away better field position for our defense. Our defense was good last year, but we couldn’t tell because our offense turned the ball over so much. Jimmy Raye at least cut the sacks down and turnovers. Our defense carried this team, but it is easily the strongest part of it. The whole point of a team is to win games, we won more games without Martz, and the players made some bad plays that resulted inmore losses. We should have been a 10 win team.
Not blaming Everest for his personnel, but I am not gona give him credit when we have had solid ST players for a while now. Adding a new ST coach is not that big of a deal, besides we don’t know that Everest didn’t want to be here. How many ST coaches cost their team a game, he cost us one.
You can say it however you want, talk about it all day I don't care, bottom line is it needs to be done now. Hesitation is an asset of the WEAK, and around here Mutha(site decorum) we get (site decorum) done!!!
Who else wanted the job?
The #1 criteria for taking the 49ers OC position was committing to the job for at least 2 seasons. Slime-ball Linehan just wanted to use the post as a stepping stone back into a head coaching gig, not to mention he wasn’t that good of a candidate. He coached the Rams offense into hot, steaming garbage.
The guy has not been hired yet, he just interviewed. Everest made some bonehead calls and I don’t think it was the “wrong move” or a reason for a scapegoat at all. I think he is doing what he believes is right.
Some decisions regarding personel could very well have been on Everest and Singletary trusted his decisions and in turn it hurt us. He went off on Everest with that stupid reverse call that was made so we can assume that was on Everest.
I don’t know how much special teams has evolved in 14 years and it doesn’t seem like it could have evolved all that much. Afterall, it’s really just kicking the ball off, staying in your lanes and making a tackle. There may be a few little tweaks here and there on punts and punt returns and as far as play-calling goes but it certainly cannot be as challenging as a defensive or offensive coordinator job.
I think that Singletary coached like a rookie coach last year. Hopefully he learned from the mistakes he made last year. It seemed like he did and he wasn’t afraid to make adjustments when need be. Some of the “basketball” timeouts and not throwing a challenge flag on certain plays and taking a timeout instead are things that bugged me a little but overall I approved of the job he did. I trust that he will make a good decision on replacing Everest.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Rossum did nothing for the rest of the season.
He would not have made a difference if we kept him.
I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?
fooch it's huge
The game is changing every year . granted not so much on ST’s but still, come on. why is this happening? They might as well have ulbrich run it.
Interesting
Of course this is just an interview not a hire. But one thing Sing seems to prefer doing is hiring coordinators with extensive resumes which makes sense due to his own limited time in coaching. I do recall that those early 90s KC teams had great special teams but that was mostly true of any team that Marty coached, so I’m not sure how much of that was due to the HC making it a priority or Kurt’s coaching.
He’s obviously an experienced coach so there’s no harm in interviewing him for this position while picking his brain about football. He could be hired down the road for a different position.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
what if he could be a new db coach??
You can say it however you want, talk about it all day I don't care, bottom line is it needs to be done now. Hesitation is an asset of the WEAK, and around here Mutha(site decorum) we get (site decorum) done!!!
God this is awful.
Al Everest to Kurt Schottenheimer? Are you serious? That’s a slap in the face to anybody following this team.
I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?
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