Tim Tebow: I think I think Peter King wants to make me physically ill
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 11:11 AM PST
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PrintMatt Barrows posted an interesting link to a Peter King article that really was just meant to annoy me to no end this morning:
I think, if I had to guess right now, I'd say the best shot for Tim Tebow on draft day is San Francisco, at number 13. No proof. No solid evidence. Just this: The Niners gave a tepid endorsement to Alex Smith as their quarterback of 2010 after the season; and Mike Singletary didn't draft him; and Singletary is going to fall in love with Tebow once he meets him after the season; and Tebow is the kind of winner that Singletary has preached he wants since he took the job from Mike Nolan in mid-2008. After Singletary meets Tebow at the Scouting Combine, this is my prediction of his reaction: He'll turn to GM Scot McCloughan and say, "That's my guy. We've got to have him.''
My distaste for Tebow as an NFL QB, let along a first round pick, knows no bounds. The point Barrows made that might drive it home for some is the idea of replacing one Urban Meyer-based QB with another Urban Meyer-based QB. Obviously Tebow brings some different athletic abilities to the table, but it's still the same general system. And one could argue Tebow would be coming to the NFL with even worse mechanics than Alex Smith.
I often hear things like, if X happens I'll do eat my hat, or something bizarre along those lines. I'm feeling that is the appropriate type of line for if the 49ers draft Tebow in the first round. I'm not saying they wouldn't grab him later in the draft (much later), but I just can't fathom them taking Tebow in the first round. I guess I just refuse to accept it.
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According to WalterFootball.com
which is one of my favorite web sites for mock draft info, they seem to think the Jags will draft Tebow at #10. Jaguars need to sell tickets and Tebow is beloved in Florida. So the thinking is that Tim Tebow will help sell a lot of tickets for them.
So assuming (and hopefully) the 49ers don’t trade up to get him, I’m hoping Tebow goes before the niners pick.
They just signed Garrard to a 60 Million daollar contract last year. No way they get Tebow to “sell tickets”. Especially since they’re more than likely moving the team to Los Angeles. They need defensive linemen bad. They have zero pass rush and a horrible secondary. Jags will draft defense. If Tebow falls to the 3rd round, they may consider him.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Yeah they need the a corner and a pass rusher
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 18, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
their entire defense needs help not to mention they could also use a playmaking WR opposite of sims-walker (Torry Holt just isn’t going to cut it) and some new blood on the interior of their O-line.
by HaloFanInDC on Jan 18, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
the owners have agreed to to let Tebow fall to Jacksonville during the 1st round. Besides, when a team is in the red, business decisions become far more important than football ones.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
that's a rumor at best
no one discloses that sort of thing publicly.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
I don't think the owners need to agree to let Tebow fall to 10
If he gets drafted in the first round, it will probably be at the end of it.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
I agree. I can’t think of an argument for any team to NEED Tebow. Just relating info. I don’t see Tebow going in 1st round either. But for any team to draft him, I think the Jacksonville scenario does make at least a little bit of sense. Regardless of what the team’s future city will be, it is a guarantee that Tebow would sell more Jaguars tickets.
Don't be too surprised if the Jags do draft Tebow
They only sold out 1 of their 8 home games and that was with a team that had a chance to make the playoffs for most of the season. Tebow is from Jacksonville and the owner has said repeatedly that he’s not moving the team. Although I doubt he’d admit it if he were considering moving the team. I don’t think they’ll take him with the 10th pick, but if he’s still their when they draft in the 2nd round I could see them taking him then.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Tebow going to Jax ...continued.
Here is exactly what Wayne Weaver said in regards to moving to LA:
“I just wanted to, in light of all the reports that came out last night, to just clarify that I’m not selling the Jaguars. The team is not moving to L.A. (Los Angeles). I don’t know how I can say that any more clearly than that. Everybody wants me to sit here and speculate on the future. I’m not going to speculate on the future. At some point maybe I would sell the team, but not now. Whatever happens in the future, I can assure you one thing: The Jaguars are going to be the Jacksonville Jaguars.”
“If you think back a year and a half ago, it’s old news. If you remember, we went out to refinance some debt and our consultant that we hired to help us through that process recommended the easiest way to do that is take on additional investors, or an additional investor. We chose not to do that. I’m not going tell you that I don’t have, from time to time, people calling me inquiring if I have an interest in selling a minority interest. That’s always an option, but if I ever do that it will be with someone that shares the same commitment and passion to winning football and being a part of the Jacksonville partnership.”
“It’s a little bit frustrating when you think about how we’ve clearly demonstrated our commitment to this football team and to this community, by giving a lucrative contract to our coach, extending our quarterback to a long-term contract, spending freely in free agency, and extending a number of our core veteran players’ contracts. That’s not the kind of activities you engage in if you’re trying to sell a football team.”
(do you feel like you’re being wronged by the media?) “I’m frustrated. I think people take things out of context and every time you read there’s a rush for teams lining up to go to California, it becomes the story. Well, this team is not going to California. This team is the Jacksonville Jaguars. I just don’t know how I can do anything more to reconfirm my commitment to how excited I am about this football team and our chance to be special and compete at the highest level, to bring a championship to Jacksonville. So I just want our fans to get as excited as I am, come and enjoy football on Sunday afternoons, and if they can’t afford to come to the game, sit on the couch at home and cheer for the Jaguars.”
(do you still want to get some added investors?) “It’s always an option, we chose not to last year. If and when we do that, as I say, it’ll be with someone who shares my commitment and my passion to bringing a championship to Jacksonville.”
“Go back and read some of the stuff that came out last year. It was very specific. You’ll find we’re here a year later and we’re talking about the same old thing.”
(is this something that’s going to hound an x-number of franchises with rumors moving to Los Angeles?) “I think it will. I think clearly until there is a solution to the L.A. market, you’re going to have all kinds of speculation whether it’s the Jaguars or whoever it may be. But I can emphatically tell you the Jaguars are not one of the clubs lining up to go to L.A.”
So basically, what I gathered from that is that he is trying to build up, not sell tickets by adding someone who’s moore than likely going to ride the pine. And even though he denies that he won’t sell, he leaves the door open by saying, “everyone wants me to speculate on the future, I’m not going to speculate on the future.” He also mentions at the end there that they just spent a ton of money on a long-term contract with their QB. If he is serious about building the team in to a championship team then he’s more than likely not going to draft another expensive QB to ride the bench. I just get the feeling by reading those statements that he’s not drafting Tebow, not with how badly they need some help at WR and their entire Dline and Secondary.
I wouldn’t be shocked if they got him with a 3rd round pick, but I would be if they picked him with their 1st or 2nd round pick. It from a financial stand doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Garrard just signed a 5 year, 60 million dollar deal and his stats aren’t bad enough to warrant a 1st round pick being spent on a 2nd round QB to make a couple of bucks. I can’t even see Tebow breaking even with the contrat they would have to give him.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
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Please include links any time you’re quoting somebody.
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 18, 2010 10:45 PM PST up reply actions
You could be right
And I agree that they probably won’t use a 1st round pick to get Tebow, but I wouldn’t rule out a 2nd round pick. Especially since 2nd round picks don’t get nearly the same kind of money as first round picks, and the Jags really need to generate excitement for the team again. Pat White, for example, was chosen in the 2nd round last year and signed a 4 year 4.5 million contract with 2.4 million guaranteed. That’s not too big of an investment. But I think we both can agree that wasting a top 10 pick on Tebow would be a waste.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
And if there's a rookie wage scale in place for 2010
all that reasoning about Garrard’s contract (which isn’t all that much) goes out the window. If they cut Garrard they’ll have a $12 million cap hit. If there’s no cap then they’ll have no problem cutting him if they wanted to.
If there’s a rookie wage scale in 2010 they can draft Tebow and not pay an arm and a leg to have two QBs on the roster.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
He’s not going to cut Garrard regardless. He obviously likes the guy if he just recently signed him to a $60 Mill contract.
If there’s a rookie wage scale in 2010 they can draft Tebow and not pay an arm and a leg to have two QBs on the roster
But you’re failing to see that it is a waste. It’s the FIRST pick of the draft for them. And more importantly the 10th overall. Tebow is not even considered by alot to be a top 50 player. I think Weaver is a little more rational than that. Tebow is not going to bring in THAT much revenue. Not enough to justify the pick anyhow. Maybe if he’s there by the time they pick in the 2nd but even then, I still doubt it. Not sure if you read the article I posted above but Weaver states that he is trying to build a championship contender and has done so by extending Garrard and Del Rio to lucrative, long-term deals.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I think it's ridiculous that he's not considered a top 50
and there are lots of people who think he is. The guy won a Heisman, finished as a finalist twice and broke all sorts of passing records. His pass percenatage completion is pretty good at 67.8%. He might very well be a bust, but that’s a crapshoot anyway when you’re talking about quarterbacks.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
For someone who claims they don’t like Tebow, you sure do alot of defending for him. lol. If I didn’t know any better, I’d think you wouldn’t mind the pick. How many Heisman QB’s have done well? That’s a sure fire way to tell when a QB will be a bust. It screams STAY AWAY!! STAY AWAY!!
Mat Leinart
Jason White
Eric Crouch
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Charlie Ward
Geno Torretta
Ty Detmer
Andre Ware
etc…
If anything, you hurt your case by bringing up the Heisman. Drafting a Heisman Trophy winning QB is like playing russian roulette with an uzi and a full banana clip; not so much a crapshoot.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Denials really don't mean much.
Michael Silver on Yahoo.com loves ragging on the Jacksonville owner. The last two years he has published stories in the off season of the Jacksonville owner attempting to sell the team while for the record he publicly denies it.
Silver has often reported the only thing keeping the Jags in Jacksonville is the current CBA where the owner has taken full advantage of revenue sharing amongst owners.
WalterFootball.com good
They have the Niners taking Spiller and Trent Williams in the 1st and Arenas in the 2nd.
Who is this guy and why isn’t he our GM?? :D
??
Arenas doesn’t have 2nd round value if we draft Spiller
Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!
If Spiller is drafted in the 1st round I can guarantee you he won't be returning kicks/punts
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 19, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions
How could you be so sure?
Bush was drafted top 5 and he returns kicks, and the saints would be dumb not to. he is the MOST dangerous KR guy in college, you can’t guarantee that
Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!
He returns punts
And up until last Saturday, Bush’s only value to the Saints was as a PR.
They have nothing to lose by putting him there.
If C.J. Spiller really is as “awesome” as nearly everyone on here makes him out to be then the team that drafts him won’t risk an injury by making him return punts/kicks.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 20, 2010 11:43 PM PST up reply actions
that's because it's unrealistic
so far the guy at walterfootball.com has been good for player info but his drafts have been pretty bad
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Why like him for that?
Since it’s virtually meaningless.
I don’t think any team is that stupid.
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 18, 2010 11:23 AM PST reply actions
Tebow won’t go until the 2nd round or later. He isn’t even a true QB. His throwing motion is horrible, mechanics horrible, and everything else about him horrible. If he ends up a Niner, I can’t imagine the boo’s he would hear once he steps on the field. I can’t possibly think that one fan (with maybe exception to the Nate Davis guys) that would welcome Tebow.
Peter King must really hate the Niners to say such a thing.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Nope.
Nate Davis actually has much better form when throwing the football. Maybe Tebow could figure out what he’s supposed to do in the offense faster, but it’s probably an even bigger project to get him not to throw like a girl. It’s what he’s been doing, and worse yet, actually getting away with, for the first 20+ years of his life, after all. If he can’t fix how he throws, in the NFL he’s going to sink so far Alex Smith will look like a perennial All-Pro by comparison. If he’s there after the 5th round, maybe they could take a flyer on Tebow and not cause me to throw a beer bottle at my TV set, but that’s as far as I think I’d go. After all, he may be a POS as a QB, but he still has the size and power to be turned into a fullback, and the one we have now is nothing special. 2 projects for the price of one!
Fullback
Brit Miller is going to be pretty good I think. The point about Tebow making the transition to FB or TE is a stretch. He has never played those positions before and more importantly, he has never blocked NFL defensive ends and linebackers.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
WalterFootball.com
Is just terrible with their draft forecasts. Take a look at some of their ones from past years and compare it to how that draft came out. It’s just bad.
That said, I agree completely that any team would be insane if that even considered Tebow before the 3rd round. To be honest I don’t see any need to even draft a QB barring Bradford dropping to us. This QB class isn’t that strong and why waste a high draft choice on a developmental QB when we already have one in Nate Davis?
Yea, I don’t take their mock draft too seriously. I mostly like reading their opinions on each prospect and why a team should draft that player. Call it “bored at work reading material”
have you read the Emmitt Smith anthology on that site? Great stuff.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
My distaste for Tebow in general knows no bounds. This would be absolutely terrible. Also, there’s a zero percent chance that it happens.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
(And you can quote me on that when it eventually does happen. I’ve been the jinx king this weekend.)
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 18, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Fooch, your title has two “I thinks” in it. You should probably edit.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
title
It was meant as a play on Peter King’s column. This particular column was titled: “Ten Things I Think I Think.”
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
/slits his wrist over and over again
On the "Brian Sabean should be fired" bandwagon
I want winners...and Eric Berry
I still think Tebow will go in the first round
but I pray it isn’t to the Niners.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Hogwash
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
this is actually a term?
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
by FearTheTree on Jan 18, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Hogwash, (n), swill, slop, nonsense, balderdash.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 18, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hogwash
is also a delicious oyster condiment.
http://foodhoe.blogspot.com/2007/01/hogwash-hog-island-oyster-co.html
:)
(n) a school of witchcraft and wizardry located in Great Britain
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 18, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I have a 1000 different comments on this story and they all go like this
by bignerd on Jan 18, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions 9 recs
+1
"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart
by Camraman926 on Jan 18, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
rec'd
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
by FearTheTree on Jan 18, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Tebow
I’ve written before, at jimjividen.blogspot.com, that the bar for my renouncing my Niner fandom is Vick – anything less than that I’m willing to eat (we traded Montana, after all).
And that goes for Tebow too – but for the love of all that is good and right – if we draft that guy just to hold a clipboard (cause dude will bust) I’m going to scream a manly scream into the darkness.
if this happens
Sing will be getting a ‘NO’ vote every week in the approval ratings
"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.
If this happens...
…we’d have to remove (site decorum) from all topics and items on Niners Nation.
Never use a big word where a diminutive alternative would suffice.
by YoungWillis on Jan 18, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Silly idea!
No reason to even begin to think that Peter King has a hot line to how Singletary will react to Tebow, or anyone else.
I don’t see how Tebow will help this team get over the hump of the 2009 season, ie. the playoffs. He can’t contribute immediately and is a project QB. That said, is his long-term potential, even as a leader, tangible enough to warrant a 1st round pick? I think not.
I wouldn’t cry if we drafted him later on, though I don’t like it. But to spend a 1st round pick on him when again, he can’t possibly improve this teams playoff chances, would be ludicrous.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Why King is an idiot in this case
Sing at least appeared to give Alex a vote of confidence. Nolan, who was basically responsible for drafting him, threw him under the bus. Why then would the fact that Sing didn’t draft Alex be a good reason why he would take Tebow? Does he think Sing is really that shallow?
If Singletary didn't count out Mike Vick
Then Singletary probably hasn’t counted out Tebow
I definitely feel the same way that Matt Barrows does about the possibilities of Tebow becoming a Niner.
Who are these new authors on NN?
possibilities
I certainly don’t think he’s ruled out Tebow becoming a Niner. I just would be shocked, stunned, mortified, with it happening in the first round.
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on McC's BPA order..
I think by the time of our 13th pick it looks something likes this…
1. CJ Spiller – REALLY really fast
2. Tim Tebow – ALEX SMITH + INTANGIBLES = SUPER BOWL!!
3. Colt McCoy – TOO MANY WINS TO COUNT
and when 16/17th pick comes around.. That is when McC will impose his will, with no regard for fan feelings.
Who are these new authors on NN?
and when 16/17th pick comes around.. That is when McC will impose his will, with no regard for fan feelings.
And will draft defense.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 19, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
Sing gave Alex more of an endorsement than people realize
The only thing he mentioned is that he wouldn’t rule out a possible addition (or upgrade) if one is available. Because he didn’t flat out lie and say Smith is the best QB we can hope for, it suddenly makes Singletary have no confidence in him? I want Smith playing a second year under Raye, Crabtree, Davis and Morgan. His first year in having that second year. I believe he improved this year and had his best year of his career. However, I also know he’s not among the best QBs in the NFL and admitting that does not mean I want another QB.
We have far bigger needs than QB and Peter King wants the Niners to fail.
I agree with just about all of that
But I don’t think that’s really part of Peter King’s agenda. He does pick against the Niners a lot during the season, however, I think it’s just foolish reasoning on his part.
Sing has given
numerous players endorsements, that’s just the kind of coach he is.
Who are these new authors on NN?
If they drafted Tebow that would be a big pick. Lofty pick.
From people more familiar to the situations, they say He is built like a fullback, is semi-mobile, and is strong armed, quasi mcNabbbish.A future league leader in dishing out concrete cyanide
by M F on Jan 18, 2010 12:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions
The champagne will be flowing in the niners draft room once the pick is made
by M F on Jan 18, 2010 1:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I saw him throw a lot of wobbly passes at Florida. Just sayin’
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 18, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with Peter King on “How” Tebow would get drafted by us. You all saw the little cross hanging from Coach Sings neck during OTAs and the preseason. When Tebow is OFF the field, he keeps his head straight with religion. When hes ON the field hes winning games by Air, by Land and by Sea!! Theses guys are meant for each other! I think Tebow understands how big a football game is, and how little of a role he plays in the entirety, but he plays that role to the fullest. All the Kid does is put up monster numbers and win Football games.
Would I take him: Yes
Will we get him: I have no idea!
Tebow
Jason White also put up big numbers and won at Oklahoma. Or to make it more close to home, Ken Dorsey put up solid numbers and won a lot at Miami.
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Peter did raise a lofty point though, saying sing will want to draft “his” guy. Mistake me if I’m wrong, but sing was a member of that same team that drafted alex smith. And sing isn’t running this draft anyways, its scotty Ms job.
by M F on Jan 18, 2010 1:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hmm
I was just about to bring up Jason White. He wasn’t even drafted. He tried out for KC and was cut. He wasn’t mobile like Tebow but he threw the ball better. But White also had a lot of injury problems.
John Kitna is religious..I hope Sing doesn’t target him.
It’s funny how you see the same reaction from every teams fan base about Tebow coming to their respective teams.
Even the one’s who say they would accept him always say, “only if we got him in the 3rd or 4th round”. Nobody wants to waste a 1st round pick on him. Most people the 2nd round pick also.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Seems to me, the more amateur the pundit
…..the worse they rate Tebow’s chances. I see guys like Dungy calling him a 1st round pick, and I’m not sure I’ve seen a single football observer I respect knock his game in any way.
But on the internet, all I see is people knocking his game…….I don’t watch the NCAA, and I’m well-aware of Tebow’s current limitations, but I think this is a case of “the further you get from the field, the less you understand what he brings to the game”.
by Stoned Slacker on Jan 18, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure I’ve seen a single football observer I respect knock his game in any way.
Go check out what Kiper and McShay are saying about him then. They are credible sources. Other Ex-NFL Coaches have said similar things as well. There has been debate back and forth on both sides of it, however, “the further you get from the field, the less you understand what he brings to the game” doesn’t quite hold water when the sources close to the field are saying those things.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
You don't watch college football?
So I guess you’ve never seen his horrible mechanics.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 19, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions
Well aware
But Philip Rivers and VY also look terrible throwing a ball, I’ve gotten past that.
By every account Tebow needs time, but I’m not writing him off like most others.
by Stoned Slacker on Jan 19, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions
I would like to see us try to trade up to get Eric Berry. I wouldn’t mind picking up Tebow in the third round or later, but certainly not before that. If any team takes him in the first or second, you just know that it’s because they have some owner/GM thinking “he’s such a swell guy and he has such a strong faith in God, he’ll be a huge success in the NFL”. Sadly, as much as I like Singletary, I can see him making that type of decision.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
Also, he’s better than Josh McCown was.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 18, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Unless
someone at Niner headquarters thinks he can become a right tackle there’s no way.
I bet he falls to the third round, at least. Bad mechanics, mediocre arm. If he tries to scramble in the pros he’ll end up with snapped stems.
by Bob In Beaverton on Jan 18, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions
No on Te-Bow
I’m a “Nate Davis guy” and I say no to Tebow and not because I’m a “Nate Davis guy”. Tebow is not an NFL quarterback and never will be. I garantee he will not be drafted in the first round. If he is, the team/GM is crazy. The only reason he will be drafted is for ticket sales.
Just assuming for a second that ticket sales plan works out
…is that team/GM still crazy?
Insert signature here.
by musketeer54 on Jan 18, 2010 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
So this is basically because Tebow is a great leader in college and wears his religious faith in his sleeve? Wow, King really thinks Sing is that easy a sell? Just believe in God and be inspirational. That’s insulting.
I’m sure Sing will enjoy getting to know Tebow, wish him well in his saintly mission work around the world and wish that Tebow played LB or Safety. He’ll then get on with the business of finding a deserving first round draft choice.
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
First and foremost, I am openly gay, so let’s get that in the clear. San Francisco born and raised. And for the record, I’d love to see Tebow in the red and gold, simply because Smith just doesn’t have what it takes to be an icon in the gay community of the Castro District.
by Ken Williams on Jan 18, 2010 4:03 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Really?
Why does a football player have to be a gay icon? That should have nothing to do with getting the best players on the field and getting the 49ers to the playoffs.
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
OK
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 18, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions
I respect that you’re gay but announcing it isn’t very necessary. Fooch is exactly right… I would much rather have a guy on the team that helps us do well.
We don’t need Tim Tebow to be a Mascot for a particular group of people. It’s a football team. That would be like me saying my favorite sport is mixed martial arts so I want us to draft LeGarrette Blount cause I’d love to see him punching opponents in the face after games. It’s just not logical. But if I was to say, “man, that LeGarrette Blount really messed up in hitting people after the game this year, but he does have some talent. If he could pull it together, he would really be an asset to the team” . Then, and only then could the statement can be taken seriously; at least in respects to a football blog.
Disclaimer: Just for the record… I am in no way or shape promoting going after LeGarrette Blount. It was just used to illustrate the point.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Blount
I don’t know about you, but I wouldn’t mind seeing him punch Brett Favre and Joe Buck in the face.
by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions
LOL!
He would break Joe Buck like Ivan Draggo broke Apollo Creed. Favre would just look in to the sky and say in his thick southern accent, “What tha heck was that… Oh well, ….one more season for the ol’ silver fox…. hey, hey…where did everybody go?”.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I have a feeling that if we had a nuclear war
Brett Favre and cockroaches would be the only thing to survive… not sure Blount would have much effect on that old buzzard.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I think some people may have misunderstood you...
Smith just doesn’t have what it takes to be an icon in the gay community of the Castro District.
I guess you didn’t say he had to be a gay icon….but why do the gays have to like Alex Smith anyways?
Can’t Vernon Davis be an icon in your community?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 19, 2010 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Tebow sucks suck sujkjas;dlfkj!!!!!!
I’ll never, ever understand why people go so far out on a limb predicting things about college players, QBs most of all.
Go back to any pre-draft piece by anyone, any year, and half of the statements are utterly ridiculous in retrospect. 1/4 of them will be laughably inaccurate. And maybe 1/4 will be close to the eventual truth.
Tebow, likely being one of the five best college football players of all-time, will be a decent flier to take for some team. Probably not a first rounder, but I don’t think anyone really looks to Peter King for rock solid draft prognostication. But all this heavy-handed criticism is just nuts and (to me) seems oblivious to the history of the NFL draft and the players drafted within, a highly unpredictable venture.
Any GM that wastes a 1st or 2nd round pick on Tebow should be fired.
At USC we're not snobs, we're just better than you.
I would think the qb and the rb for ol miss would be the best 1st rd picks, most of the best cb,saftys come late in the draft.
by smooth9erindahouse on Jan 18, 2010 6:23 PM PST reply actions
Speaking of Tebow
guess who’s coaching the South squad? Tony Sparano will be coaching Tebow in the Senior Bowl. I think that Tebow is the perfect QB for Miami.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
A bigger Pat White?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 19, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions
They might just be willing to see how Henne develops. He did a pretty okay job running that offense as a second-year player, first-year starter. Plus, as a former second round pick, he probably comes with expectations.
I don't know about that, to the groin.
by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Tebow
seems exactly like the kind of 49ers draft day WTF we’ve come to know and love throughout the 21st Century.
I mean… it’s just so… so… face palm.
Raiders might snatch him up first… “to put some pressure on Jamarcus”.
FIRE BRIAN SABEAN... UNLESS HE KEEPS DRAFTING WELL. .. AND SIGNS UNDERRATED PLAYERS LIKE AFFELDT OR PHELPS. .. OR ALRIGHT WHO'S PLAYING WITH THE ALIEN MIND-SWITCHING RAY?
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The thing with Jamarcus Russell is that he clearly couldn’t care less about his performance on the field, as long as he’s getting paid. I remember wanting to puke when he would show up to his postgame press conference after a loss wearing sunglasses and a fur coat, smirking like he’d just won the Super Bowl.
"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane
by Useful_Idiot on Jan 18, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions
He did win A Super Bowl!
The one with all the $$$$ in it.
Breathe easy, Fooch...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/01/24/titlegames/5.html
Immediately upon hearing my pick, Silver sent the following text-message to San Francisco GM Scot McCloughan: "You can’t pick Tebow. It has something to do with a pool, alcohol, and Peter King.‘’ A minute later, two letters came back from McCloughan: "ok.’’
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