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Kurt Schottenheimer named 49ers Special Teams Coordinator

Fooch's Note: I just got the press release on this, but there's a link below.

“I am very thankful that we were able to add Kurt to our coaching staff,” said head coach Mike Singletary. “He brings with him invaluable experience from more than 30 years of service in the NFL and college coaching ranks. Kurt has a diverse background and a tremendous knowledge of personnel, both of which will serve the 49ers well in producing a top-notch special teams unit.”

There's absolutely nowhere to go but up for this unit.  I can't really judge much about the coach himself but its hard to imagine him doing any worse than where we were last season unless he gets rid of Andy Lee.

http://www.49ers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Kurt-Schottenheimer-Named-ST-Coordinator/ff4cb87e-09d9-4a21-a884-bdc547001a80

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Mine was up first and has a completely different tone.

Huh.

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

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Just emailed you. I didn’t notice yours until after moving this one up.

As far as the reaction, I can’t call it an upgrade OR a downgrade at this point because I just don’t know enough at this point. Kurt hasn’t been an ST coordinator for some time, which would seem to be a negative. But I just don’t know at this point.

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I got it. No problem.

I just think Everest is a proven commodity who slipped up a bit.

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

ST Coordinators

I don’t know. ST Coordinators often seem to come and go with the wind at times.

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll laugh at all of you when we average 4.3 next year on PR.

I’ll do said laughing while crying into my laptop.

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I said it before

if we hire him we might as well have hired ulbrich. at least he’s a name we know.

by srill waiting on Jan 18, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Really?

What will you do with 12.7 on PR?

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 18, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions  

:P Fooch showing his spite for all my clowning, promoting this one!

Seriously though I absolutely hate this move. Nobody clamors for Kurt Schottenheimer. This is a gigantic leap backward from Al Everest.

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

i agree

now is not the time to “try” something that hasn’t been proven. We’ve got enough problems in this area.

by srill waiting on Jan 18, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

We seem to have a penchant for coaches..

Who have been in the league for 30+ years and still have proven nothing.

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

there was a time

and stillis to some point that the rest of the league could be intertwined with the coaching of bill walsh. ah, the good ol’ days

by srill waiting on Jan 18, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets said

Greg Manusky becomes a HC for another team (like the Cowboys)

How old will the next hire be?

Who are these new authors on NN?

by supraman on Jan 18, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Deserved and funny!!

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 18, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Victory is mine!

That’s what you get for being a negative Nancy and using Twitter.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 18, 2010 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate my Twitter account. :[

And besides, I found out through my brother, who found out through twitter and I was still faster than you.

jerk

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Based on what though?

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 18, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Just heard the "grew up worshipping bret favre" thing on ESPN again

This day is officially the worst ever. brbsuicide

I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?

by James Brady on Jan 18, 2010 12:28 PM PST reply actions  

oh boy

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Jan 18, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

I wanna disagree, but

I feel tremendous backlash if I say why.

by Ovalshine on Jan 18, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Not to mention

I wasn’t gonna be serious, anyways.

by Ovalshine on Jan 18, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

haha

They’re all waiting for Jimmy

by LADubbz45 on Jan 18, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll see what he brings to the table.

Given the players we have, doubt he’ll make any improvement.

by Ovalshine on Jan 18, 2010 1:06 PM PST reply actions  

punt return

Given how awful the punt return unit was, that can only improve. But I think that has as much or more to do with the personnel that might be brought in as opposed to the coach.

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

So why bother replacing the coach in the first place?

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Jan 18, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

who knows

I’m honestly mostly indifferent to the special teams coach position. The coach obviously provides some insight, but I think it comes down to the talent you have back there.

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

talent...exactly,

& if Cleveland is crazy enough to trade Cribbs to us…our special teams would be spectacular. Don’t see that happening though.

by Doni S on Jan 18, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

because we want winners?

"The Football The 49ers Team has The excitement of the bear, the velocity of the deer and strenght of the buffalo.

by 49erLou on Jan 18, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He damn near single handedly cost us a game, on FREAKIN' SPECIAL TEAMS!!

…………..maybe

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 18, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Everest vs. Shottenheimer ???????? I'm on board but...

Maybe I should’ve put my application in?

To the Special Teams:
“Hey, run down there and tackle the guy” …or… “Catch the ball and run it back for a TD…remember to block for him guys”. “Stay in your lanes on the kickoff”….and “Make sure you wrap up”.

See, I can do it as good as the next guy.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 18, 2010 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

I vote Drew K for ST coach

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 18, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Drew K gets my vote too!

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jan 18, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

ST seems to be more about the players

Since they get replaced quicker than the other two coordinators. But the performance of their units, outside of the rare guy such as April, is really about the quality of return man, kickers, and athletic backup players. Niners have the kickers. They need the return man. And the rest remains to be seen with the loss of Ulbrich though Robinson remains is place.

Unless Schottenheimer is a awful, which is unlikely, the unit will improve with a better return man and blocking schemes which were both awful under Everest in ’09. Drafting a reserve DB and LB with speed would also help the ST unit.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Jan 18, 2010 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

ESPN reported it too.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4836901

And Clayton just said on television that Mike Nolan was fired by Denver.

by mayfieldcol on Jan 18, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions  

yep

Just posted a FanShot on the front page about Nolan.

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well

there goes some of the luster for the london game. does anyone think that would’ve been that much of a storyline anyways?

by srill waiting on Jan 18, 2010 4:23 PM PST up reply actions  

story-lines

Outside of here? Probably not. But we would have gotten a whole host of posting material out of it!

by David Fucillo on Jan 18, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Some might not like the hire but . . .

I have a bit of insight into special team coaches. The position isn’t so much knowing X’s and O’s as it is making your players really believe your plan is going to work. It’s a position for motivational coaches which is where Marty Schottenheimer and Bill Cowher made their starts.

by bignerd on Jan 18, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

In all honestly when talking about kick and punt return plays the X’s and O’s drawn up get flushed away within 1 second of action. Ya, you can diagram a return on a chalk board expecting the defenders to be in a certain position but they never are.

Really good X’s and O’s special coaches can identify that one player who has tendency to miss his assignment and guess how he might miss the assignment on a certain play but it’s still mostly convincing the returner that all the needed blocks will be made and the blockers if they block will do so at the right angle to spring the return.

Now blocking assignments on field goal tries and punts are strictly teaching your players X’s and O’s.

by bignerd on Jan 18, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oddly enough

Bellichick got his start there too

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 18, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Well if you think about ST coach is mostly coaching the non-starters. Just on the surface it sounds like an entry level position.

by bignerd on Jan 18, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep agreed what I was noting

Is that based on the statement of an ST Coach needing to be motivational, Bellichick doesn’t come across to a lot of people as “motivational”

by ChesapeakeBay9er on Jan 19, 2010 5:53 AM PST up reply actions  

There is article about Tony Gonzalez and the Pro Bowl that dived into Belichicks motivational ploys for special teams.

by bignerd on Jan 19, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Why is everyone harping on his age?

He just barely turned 60. Singletary’s only like 8 years younger than Shottenheimer. There are A LOT of coaches in that particular age bracket.

Here’s his resume for anyone interested (also not understanding why there has been mention of him being out of football for a while when he was just recently with the Packers):

Team(s) as a coach/administrator
1974
2010-present William Paterson University
(Defensive Coordinator)

1978-1982
Michigan State
(Linebackers/Defensive Backs)

1983
Tulane
(Defensive Backs)

1984-1985
LSU
(Linebackers)

1986
Notre Dame
(Linebackers)

1987-1988
Cleveland Browns
(Special Teams)

1989-1994
Kansas City Chiefs
(Special Teams)

1995-1998
Kansas City Chiefs
(Defensive Backs)

1999-2000
Kansas City Chiefs
(Defensive Coordinator)

2001
Washington Redskins
(Defensive Coordinator)

2002-2003
Detroit Lions
(Defensive Coordinator)

2004
Green Bay Packers
(Defensive Backs)

2005
St. Louis Rams
(Secondary)

2006-2008
Green Bay Packers
(Secondary)

Present
San Francisco 49ers
(Special Teams)

The versatility leads me to believe that he’d be a pretty useful guy to have around.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 18, 2010 11:31 PM PST reply actions  

BUT, AL EVEREST WAS OUR FUTURE!!

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

haha… good call. He went to Pittsburgh. He didn’t stay unemployed for long…. neither did Nolan. Dolphins picked him up today.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

From what I understand Nolan had an interview scheduled with the Dolphins

before he and McDaniels parted ways.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 19, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Certainly doesn’t look well for McDaniels on the surface. Nobody is going to want to go there to play

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. He's running everybody in the old regime out

My in-laws are all huge Broncos fans and they can’t stand McDaniels.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 19, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t blame them

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

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