100 in 100: Eric Berry (8 of 100)
by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM PST
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PrintMost people believe that Eric Berry is the 2nd best player entering the 2010 NFL Draft; some even believe that he is the top rated player in the Nation. Even though the consensus has been both of those two scenarios, a lot of folks think that he won't be drafted any higher than the 5th overall pick because of the position he plays. There has been a lot of debate regarding where and who Eric Berry will be selected by. Some of the kind people here at Niners Nation have even mentioned trading up to get this potentially great future NFL player.
Berry has been nominated for several awards though out his collegiate career. The Junior classman announced that he would skip his Senior year and enter the 2010 NFL Draft the night after the 2009 Chik-Fil-A Bowl which Berry played in.
A lot of comparison's have been drawn to other players that are currently playing in the NFL or have played in the NFL in years past. The most notable comparison has been made to Ed Reed of the Baltimore Ravens. Berry has the opportunity with his gift of athleticism and natural instinct for the game to be one of the best of his time. Some people have speculated that he has more ability than Reed did when he entered as a rookie in 2002. When you can build a reputation of being both a ball-hawk and a hard-hitter in the same sentence, then you must be doing a lot right. Personally, I am very excited to see Berry in action next year no matter what team decides to scoop him up.
Below, we will take a look back at the stats, awards, and highlights that Berry has earned through his career at Tennessee.
As you can see in the video, Berry has the ability to sniff the ball out like a blood hound no matter where he is at on the field. He has uncanny awareness and reads quarterbacks as easily as a college graduate can read Dr. Seuss. The highlights here don't nearly scratch the surface as to what else Berry is capable of. I think that the ceiling is very high for Berry and it is scary how much more potential he has.
AWARDS AND HONORS:
- 2009 Unanimous All-American
- 2009 Jim Thorpe Award
- 2009 Bronco Nagurski Award Finalist
- 2009 Lott Award Finalist
- 2009 Jack Tatum Award
- 2009 First team All-SEC
- 2008 Unanimous All-American
- 2008 National Defensive Sophomore of the Year
- 2008 SEC Defensive Player of the Year
- 2008 Jack tatum Award
- 2008 First Team All-SEC
- 2008 Vince Dooley Award
- 2008 Jim Thorpe Award Finalist
- 2007 First Team Freshman All-American
- 2007 National Defensive Freshman of the Year
- 2007 SEC Defensive Freshman of the Year
- 2007 Second Team All-SEC
- 2007 All-SEC Freshman Team
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2007 All-SEC Academic Honor Roll
CAREER STATS:
| Stats Overview | Tackles | Misc | Interceptions | |||||||||||
| YEAR | TOT | SOLO | AST | SACK | STF | STFY | FF | BK | INT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | PD |
| 2007 | 86 | 52 | 34 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 222 | 44.4 | 96 | 1 | 0 |
| 2008 | 72 | 44 | 28 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7 | 265 | 37.9 | 72 | 2 | 0 |
| 2009 | 83 | 54 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 3.5 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 Regular Season Game Log | Tackles | Misc | Interceptions | |||||||||||||
| DATE | OPP | RESULT | TOT | SOLO | AST | SACK | STF | STFY | FF | BK | INT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | PD |
| 9/5 | Western Kentucky | W 63-7 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| 9/12 | UCLA | L 19-15 | 10 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 9/19 | @Florida | L 23-13 | 11 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 9/26 | Ohio | W 34-23 | 7 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 10/3 | Auburn | L 26-22 | 14 | 11 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| 10/10 | Georgia | W 45-19 | 5 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| 10/24 | @Alabama | L 12-10 | 5 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 2 |
| 10/31 | South Carolina | W 31-13 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/7 | Memphis | W 56-28 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 7.0 | 7 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/14 | @Mississippi | L 42-17 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/21 | Vanderbilt | W 31-16 | 5 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 11/28 | @Kentucky | W 30-24 | 8 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 1 |
| 2009 Postseason Game Log | Tackles | Misc | Interceptions | |||||||||||||
| BOWL | OPP | RESULT | TOT | SOLO | AST | SACK | STF | STFY | FF | BK | INT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | PD |
| Chick-fil-A BOWL | Virginia Tech | L 37-14 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
NOTE: Berry recorded 3 Tackles in a 37-14 loss to the Virginia Tech Hoakies in the Chik-Fil-A Bowl.
SUMMARY AND PROJECTIONS:
Being that Berry is one of the top college football players in the Nation, I think it is safe to say he is going to be drafted very high. It is my personal opinion that he will not fall outside of the top 5. Some people speculate different but I just think he is too good of a player to pass up. With most of the teams trying to get their franchises on track, Berry would be a step in the right direction for any team not doing so well. Berry has been the best player the Vols have seen since the departure of future Hall of Famer Peyton Manning. He's 5'11" 203 LBS.
Possibilities -- Lions, Bucs, Redskins, Chiefs, or ((wildcard)) Browns or another team trading up.
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Berry is amazing
But it was beautiful watching him do nothing to stop the truck that is Ryan Williams. Having said that, he is a very impressive defender and I would be extremely excited if for some ungodly reason (Al Davis) he fell to us.
Plz trade up
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 19, 2010 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Talk about being set
If we got him and had Goldson and Reggie Smith as our other two safeties, I’d say we could be set at that position for quite a few years.
I hope we get him some how. Our defense would be a monster
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 19, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Is there anything this team needs more than a quick safety who can plays top-notch pass D while maintaining a strong presence in the run D? Not knowing too much else about what’s available in the draft, I don’t think it would be crazy to trade both firsts if it meant getting Berry.
Of course they need line help, but anything we get in the draft probably can’t be counted on until year 2 at best, meaning we make little movement in that area…….really have to hope for the best in CBA negotiations to allow us to use the FA market and get guys who can contribute now.
Switch 1st rounders with a team in the top 5...
I guess if it is possible, try to find out what team will draft what player when it is their turn to pick, then depending on how far down the gap the team will lose from their position to 13th (the Niners) offer either San Frans 2nd or 3rd round pick
I really like the clip....
where he hit they guy and made him spin like 360 degrees lol….only thing i will say is that if the Niners get him, every interception he makes he better not ACT like Ed Reed and start throwing the ball around whenever he is about to be tackled lol
by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 19, 2010 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have the reference so I could be making it up
But I remember reading something a few years ago that said QB, WR, and Saftey were the riskiest positions to draft and the OL was the safest. I’m not saying Berry will be a bust, and I would love it if he miraculously fell to the 49ers, but I don’t think there’s such a thing as a can’t miss prospect. Remember when Michael Huff was supposed to be the next great saftey coming out of Texas? The Raiders chose him with the 7th pick and he’s done nothing since then.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Yeah
He appears to be pretty active with the Raiders, but other than that you can’t say much else.
I’m all for safety (no pun intended) right now especially since we’re so close to being a playoff team again and offensive production will be critical next season. I almost would be content even if the Niners took OL’s for both 1st rounders. Not sexy picks, but W’s make a team look sexy in the long run anyway. However, with additions like Alex Boone to the active roster, ironically they may end up being loaded in the OL area. The best case scenario might be for the Niners to take an OL or two in the 1st round and then try for a CB/S like Arenas who can fit in for now as a return man in the 2nd or 3rd round.
word
this guy’s a freak, but he’s a marginal improvement to our club. A quality OL puts us in the playoffs…no question. OL gets Gore, Crabs, and VD going, and gives us wins.
but man…Berry’s going to be special. wow.
It's not marginal improvement by adding a player like Berry. Being a top 5 overall defense
Is not marginal. We can already stop the run, but our deep coverage is suspect. Plus if Scot Mc wants him and plans on trading up, the best move for the O-Line is to go through FA, and if the CBA is in place this can happen. I can’t believe it isn’t done yet, who wants the Colts and Chargers to keep there teams together while in salary cap hell?
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aren't we already a top 5 D?
17.6 ppg puts us at 4th in the league. We’re one of only 2 teams in the top 10 that aren’t in the playoffs…the other is Carolina at 9th (19.3 ppg).
I think it’s marginal because we can field the same defense (assuming Aubreyo stays) under the same coordinator and be just fine on that side of the ball. However, if we buy Alex another second to make his read, we eliminate some of the turnovers that led to losses. AND we can get the ball to Gore more effectively to chew the clock.
Assuming Berry steps in and improves our defense, we still don’t stand to improve in the standings because we’re back to turning the ball over and not being able to run the clock with 1st downs.
No we aren't a top 5 defense
We were 15th in ypg, 4th in pts per game, 21st in pypg, and 6th vs the rush. Not a top 5 defense in my opinion. Why are you talking about buying Alex another second? I said if the OL is addressed in FA, then a trade for Berry makes sense, I didn’t say give up two firsts, although I wouldn’t be mad.
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depends on how you look at it
I look at points because its a better indicator of success. Only 4 of the top 10 passing YPG teams made it to the playoffs. Some of the top 10 (in ypg)…Tampa, Oakland, and Buffalo….not very good teams. If your defense can hold the opponent to less than 20, you figure out how to score 21.
I don’t disagree that Berry is a great talent. I’m making the point that an improved offensive line…at any cost, is our ticket into the playoffs.
Of course an improved offensive line is neccessary, I wonder what we are debating here, I have said that over and over.
Fact remains the top total defenses are Jets, Packers, Ravens, Bengals and Steelers (yards per game) Steelers got screwed with the Colts letting the Jets win. All of those teams have a passing defense. What would be the ponit of facing dominant passing offenses with an inferior passing defense. We’d be better top 5 yards overall and hover around the 14 pts per game like the Jets. Once again that Crabtree pick was a doozy.
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how would you feel
about 2 first rounders for Okung?
it meets our most pressing need, and he seems to be the consensus best OL out there.
After passing on Oher who went in the mid-20's last year
I would be very upset if we did that when there’s guys like Bryan Bulaga, Anthony Davis, Bruce Campbell etc… available to us. There is not that much seperation in talent between Okung and the guys mentioned.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
agreed
because you’re the scout and would know better.
i was making the point, though, that it just isn’t logical to salvage 2 first rounders in a very deep draft. Even for our biggest need it sounds crazy.
Primarily, because you never know what you’re going to get.
Berry is more of a sure fire pick than Okung.
I still think th way to go is OL in FA simply because they have NFL experience. We could draft OL in the first and bomb like the Rams.
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Unless we get a new CBA
FA O-line pickings are going to be very, very slim.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Well yeah
but the pickings are still very slim.
I wonder if the FO has thought at all about moving Staley to RT in the offseason and keeping Sims at LT?
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Sims is a free agent next year, plus I’d much rather see McNeill line up at LT.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
staley isn't mean enough
he’s mr. funny guy. don’t want him on the right side
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Brent Jones was mr funny guy too
until he stepped on the field.
Harris Barton was a playboy. Until he stepped on the field and turned into a Pro-Bowl/Hall of Fame lineman
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Good points
He’s a football player… it’s not like he’s passing out hugs and cracking jokes during the game. He didn’t do well over there his rookie season I suspect mostly because he hadn’t adjusted to how much faster and stronger guys were in the NFL. Now that he has, I suspect he’d be much more effective over there.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
He isn't a good run blocker, he is a better pass blocker.
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Key words Barton and Jones
Staley is not a HOF as of now.
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Doesn't make sense when our FO is set on Staley at LT. You won't trade up for a RT.
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Who said they are set on Staley at LT? I think Sing wants the best guy at whatever position to help the team win. Honestly, I think the Niners could afford to move Staley to RT. What would happen if we got a guy like McNeil in FA? You honestly feel like he’d still be left at RT when McNeil is so much more effective over there? If the right guy is selected and he would be an upgrade at LT over Staley, I could easily see Sing moving him to RT.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Because Staley is not built to play RT. He isn't a mauler and he is a better pass blocker than run blocker.
Sims outplayed Staley last year, and still, “Staley is our LT”-Sing
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Well then maybe we need to think about trading Staley and draft a LT and a RT. Or go after a FA LT and draft a RT. I wasn’t a hundred percent sold on Staley last year. Maybe alot of that had to do with Baas not being so good over there also. So if we get a LG maybe that could help Staley out as well.
Either way, I agree with the Berry statement. The only way it makes sense to go after him, is if FO get’s a solid pro-bowl caliber Tackle in FA.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I wasn't impressed with Staley when he came back either
I felt that Sims did a much better job all year long. Sims is also playing for veteran minimum. If the Ravens don’t extend Jared Gaither he might be worth going after.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Sims won’t last much longer, and Ozzie Newsome will extend Gaither. He was an absolute steal in the 5th round of 07.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
Oh I agree. I think the chances of Gaither slipping away from the Ravens
are slim to none. It was more in the way of fantasy.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
{site decorum} I'd give up a 2nd rounder for their O-line coach
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
wish we could pry
Ferentz away from Iowa.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
That would work too
we wouldn’t even have to give up a draft choice.
Maybe if we told him we’d draft Bulaga and Calloway for him so he could still coach them at the next level.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
If there was a better player available
I gauarantee that the “set on Staley at LT” tune would change.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
There was a better player available last year at pick 10!!
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yea
eric berry is good……..“but when Patrick Willis sacks the Quaterback………. he goes after the family next” lol
btw…..I am def on board with trading our two first rounders for him and maybe a 4th or 5th pick.
Technically, it isn't two first rounders
It’s 09’s 2nd and 4th and ’10’s 1st, that is great for a player of his caliber.
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It's still 2 first round picks
Even though a 2nd and 4th are what we gave up last year to get the 1st rounder this year. And like I said before, there’s no guarantee he’ll be the next Reed. He could be, but he could end up being a bust as well, or even just an above average player. If he falls down to around #10 and the 49ers can swing a deal where they trade their 13th and a 2nd round pick, I’ld be OK with that. But the 49ers still have too many needs to give up both 1st round picks on one player.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
well said. Plus unless we sign Marcus McNeil and Daryn Colledge, we’ll really need to work on our O-line, seeing as Baas and Sims are leaving.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
Baas is a FA, maybe that's what he means
I’m sure we’ll resign him for at least a year or two.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I hope you’re wrong about that
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Seriously?
I think Baas is a fantastic run blocker and an average, to slightly below average, pass blocker. If we get a great RT in the offseason everybody’s play improves.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Nope
Baas is horrible. Laying a couple blocks here and there is not going to cut it. We need players and if he is below average in ANY area he can back someone up. And for what he’s getting paid, not worth it for a back up
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Daryn College, anyone? Probably the lone bright spot on a horrific Packers line, and above-average in every respect.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
I like him too
but again he’s not UFA unless a new CBA gets reached.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Baas is barely making over veteran minimum
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Regardless, it’s a waste of a roster spot
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
If we pick up a better guard in FA
paying veteran minimum for a decent backup is a steal. Baas would be a far better backup than Wragge.
If we’re going to cut a guard that’s the one I’d get rid of.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I'd pay Amano the funds and I'd take Barron from the Rams
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Barron is a disaster
we completely thrashed him and his entire line in our finale.
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
I’m well aware of the fact that his line sucks. But he is pretty bad too. Personally, I think Pashos is more solid alternative than him.
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
Maybe
but I know I would be praying all season long that whoever it was playing LG would not get injured for the sake of not having Baas play.
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Even battling the foot injury?
I think Rachal sucks in the run blocking and Baas in pass blocking, i think we need a new OL coach, but they aren’t falling out of trees!
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I don't want to keep Foerster either but Sing said he is keeping the rest of his coaches
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
yeah
are they any good OL coaches on the market next year?
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
Baas
He’s a restricted free agent, which makes it cheaper to re-sign him.
by David Fucillo on Jan 19, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
If he falls to five
we can trade a first and a second for him. We could then trade 1b back and get another second and still have a 1st and a 2nd.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
It would be close
According to that draft value chart, the 5th pick is valued at 1700 points, the 13th pick is valued at 1150, and the 2nd round pick is valued at 450. So they would still be about 100 points short, but that doesn’t mean a team won’t make a deal. Then again, someone else may value him more and make a better offer to trade up. I just wouldn’t trade both 1st round picks for him.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Seahawks are in the best position for that right now.
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I have seen this picture so much that it is in and of itself redundant.
So beating a dead horse to the second power????
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
this
is the way to do it, if possible. We got an extra 1st…wouldn’t hurt much to get Berry in the first and not lose any other picks.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
LOL, we had a HUGE glaring need when we drafted Crabs, but wait until next year right?
Funny. Again I will reinterate trading up is only an option if we upgrade the OL in FA.
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FA will answer a lot.
Sing definitely wants to upgrade the KR/PR position possibly with more than one player. He also know that RT, a good RT, is the top priority…
That’s why I could see 1a and 1b going to Spiller and Bulaga or Davis or Campbell.
Unless we get someone really good in FA.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
1b tradeback, take a true RT like Calloway
and a good Guard in the 2nd.
OL solved.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Other people say tthe next Reed, he is Eric Berry and a better prospect than Reed.
A safety that could be the number 1 corner and safety. I wold say next Ronnie Lott (#42)
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Not really. Berry can lay the wood at times, but Lott was like a Patrick Willis with good cover skills.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
I'm not saying that Berry is the next Lott
just that he reminds me more of Lott than Reed.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Well, Reed is a real interceptions guy, so in that regard Berry is more a Reed-type.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
Not really
Lott was an all pro corner and safety so he could play man and zone and hit.
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Berry is more of a ball hawk than Lott was which is why Berry is more comparible to an Ed Reed
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Not really Lott was an all pro corner and safety so he could play man and zone and hit.
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I am not saying Lott couldn’t pick the ball off cause he did, what I am saying is playing style is more like Reed. If you analyze styles in play, Lott just isn’t the best comparison. You could use certain aspects of his game and compare that way but Reed and Berry are the most alike
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Only because of how they are used.
Berry just doesn’t have highlights of hits on WR’s and RB’s, oh wait, yes he does, and the ability to cover from the corner is why I put them in the same category. Berry could be an all pro corner.
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His interception returns remind me of Reed.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions
What about ‘lay the wood’ don’t you understand?
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
He's saying he can lay the wood
Not really. Berry can lay the wood at times, but Lott was like a Patrick Willis with good cover skills.
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
That isn't even a realitic comparison
I bet he didn’t have 3 seasons with 100 tackles as a 9er. He hit as hard as Willis? Not likely! It defies the laws of Physics!
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technically
he had two 100+ tackle seasons with the 49ers. he had one with the jets and one with the raiders. He got damn close to 100 tackles almost every season of his career though
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
I think it's too early to determine what is too much, at least until after the CBA fiasco and FA.
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I understand what you guys are saying but
lets say we could get two first round picks from a team for Patrick Willis…..I bet almost everyone would go with Willis. why? beacuse 1st round picks are useless unless you can get great value from them. Berry is that talented. I have never wanted the niners to draft anyone as badly as Berry. We have a lot of talent in the seconday but when we need to stop teams from moving the ball on us (ie. peyton manning on that final drive or the infamous “niners have just been Farved” play) we cant.
Another reason is since when have teams drafted right tackles in the first round. Most of us agree that RT is our most pressing need right? Im sure a good tackle will be around after the “spectacular” first round tackles are gone.
Saving grace
The only reason why I think there might be one available after the 1st round is because there are about five of them projected to go in the first two. So you might have a viable point. Also with a new CBA that does not call for an uncapped year, we could pick up someone experienced in FA.
Experience at RT is the way to go.
I would much rather have drafted a RT (Oher) last season, and then trade two 1st rounders for Berry this year and take Bey Bey Thomas, or a FA number 1, TO could have came back and then we take a number one the next draft. Crabs was nto worth the #10 pick since our RT cost us sacks and rushing yards and a lot of dysfunction.
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I think Crabtree was worth the pick.
There is no way the Niners could pass on a player like him, even if it wasn’t our biggest need.
by mountaindew77 on Jan 19, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
The 49ers are only set at the WR position now because they drafted Crabtree last year. Without Crabtree we’d still be lacking a true #1 WR and we’d be talking about drafting a WR in the first round this year
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
We still aren't set at WR. We don't know if we are set at Qb, how could we be set at WR?
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Agree
I don’t think Morgan is a very solid number 2. I would love to get Thomas or Williams in the draft 2nd-5th round.
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Definitely… I think he is a sleeper in the draft. he went to Toledo so didn’t receive that much publicity. But from what I saw, he is going to be a freak. If he does well at the combine, I can’t see him slipping past the 3rd though.
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I think Morgan could develop into a very good #2
I really liked what I saw from him as he improved his game. I think he would benefit from having a veteran around for a year or two.
I wonder if we can get Isaac Bruce to be an assistant WR coach for us? It’s obvious that he’s greatly respected on this team.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Morgan
I think he has potential, but I am not willing to wait and see if it materializes. There are rookies coming in and making their mark all the time. He can back up whoever as far as I am concerned in to that “potential” materializes, until then, I am not sold at all.
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Isn't that kind of what I just said?
bring someone in, let Morgan be #3 and learn from whomever the #2 is?
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Not exactly.
And I am not talking about bringing in some old toot like Bruce. I am talking about bringing in a guy that’s going to be an instant threat as a rookie. If Morgan learns then he learns, but that should be on him, not some old veteran to be his mentor. He’s a pro, it’s not little league. Bruce had been there and Morgan is still the same pretty much. I didn’t see him get worse or better…just sort of a plateau.
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For a sixth rounder, he is of good value, don’t get me wrong. But I would rather get a guy like Thomas or Williams to step in there and be an enormous threat. I just can’t see Morgan ever being an “ennormous threat”.
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Bold prediction
Stephen Williams 2nd round to oakland
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You think?
I think he is happy with Murphy and Schilens and I think he still has arrogant faith that DHB will have a break out year next season. He can’t do any worse, that’s for sure. Plus they have MC Hammer Higgins also. With Zach Miller at TE also, I just find it hard to see that they would pick a WR that high. But I could be wrong. The offensive problems there have mostly been at the QB and OL positions.
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its davis
6-5 WR with a 4.4
he may draft him there
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bruce wants to coach Rams WR's
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
We could use more depth at WR
But we’re not as bad off as we were at this time last year. No one’s talking about using a 1st round pick on WR mainly because we already have Crabtree.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
We need more than Crabtree and IMPO I don’t think Morgan is a solid number 2.
I am not promoting picking a WR in the 1st but I would not be disappointed if we spent a 2nd or a 3rd on one.
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It all depends on what’s obtained in the 1st round or FA. If we picked up Spiller in the 1st, then obviously we could draft a WR without having to worry if he could return kicks or not
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I’d love Golden Tate on this team. Good hands, and can return punts. Robinson has done a fine job returning kicks, so punt returns are a more pressing need.
I speak fluent English and Arabic and have a working knowledge of Spanish. Yet a certain GrahamCrakalaka cannot distinguish me from Mike Fox. Man...
I am not a big Golden Tate fan. And I think Morgan was doing the kick returns toward the end of the season.
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Morgan was returning kicks
and doing a really good job of it.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
agree
he was doing a pretty decent job.
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all the more reason
to make him the #3 WR
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
No on Tate, if we get a WR we need one that is more physical than what we have.
He’s good, but I think he wouldn’t help much.
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I agree Golden Tate would be great
We could really use his hands with Alex Smith.
I’d love to see us trade down our second 1st rd pick to be able to grab tate and pick up an some extra picks.
by snowweasel30 on Jan 19, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Josh Morgan would make a great slot receiver. If we can get a good receiver in the draft or even get one of the many out of free agency, it would be a huge boost to the offense
by mountaindew77 on Jan 20, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Crabtree doesn't make us set at WR, not with our current QB play
Astonishing he is being heralded as “The Answer”……speaking of crabtree, Where is #10forTech??
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I don't
There has only been one WR to directly affect wins and losses and that was Moss. Crabtree was not that type of player. Regardless of what we had at WR, you swallow foolish pride and go with the big ugly, who will make passing and rushing possible to execute.
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But that's only because Willis has proven his talent in the NFL
Not every great college player turns into a great NFL player. The NFL is full of “can’t miss” players who ended up as busts. If I knew for a fact Berry would be at the same level as Reed, I’d so go for it. But we don’t know that. Lot’s of people think he will, but there’s no guarantee. The 49ers OL was horible last season. If Berry is somehow still there when the 49ers draft, take him. Otherwise go for a Tackle. Although the 49ers definitely need to draft secondary help with one of their first 3 picks.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
You didn't know how good Crabtree was either, none of us did.
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You're right
So if he’s their when we pick, take him. I’m not saying the 49ers shouldn’t take him.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
If there has ever been a sure fire prospect since Manning, we are discussing him now.
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Don't know what just happened
Must have hit a wrong key. What I was trying to say is that I don’t think there’s such a thing as a sure fire prospect.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
It's always easy to say that in retrospect
But OL usually have a higher success rate. Another reason why I think we should go for OL in the first round
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Tony Madarich
:-P
Dude, the league is littered with “can’t miss” players. Some of them miss. Get over it.
You have been DFiBrillated.
by Dubs fan in Boston on Jan 20, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
There is...
no way we will get this kid. There won’t be a Crabtree episode two years in a row. Our O line needs are too great, and I don’t see us trading up for just one player when we have a chance to get two great players to help the team immediately. We get one great O line men and then we pick the best available player and it won’t be Berry.
Depends
on where he is drafted. He plays SS now so that would be the easiest transition for him but I imagine he could probably do both great.
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though it would seem that having him deep
would be less of a liability on passing downs than Goldson, at least thus far…based on his cover skills. Then again Goldson could wow us all in pre-season if he works hard…but you can’t teach Berry’s instincts.
"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.
Early on in the season Goldson struggled in coverage, toward the end, he was making some fantastic plays on the ball. Not one player can be perfect on every single play and if that’s what people expect then they’re asking for a let down every single time. I thought Goldson really stepped up to the plate at the end of the year in coverage. People aren’t giving him enough credit. He is going to be a possible pro bowl prospect next year.
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I totally agree
sometimes it takes awhile for things to click. 2009 was only the second year for Goldson and the only year that he saw signficant playing time (won the starting job in pre-season).
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Goldson stepped up but nothing beyond 20 yards
He has coverae skills, I jst think it fits the first 20 yards and not the back end!
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This is why I wish the average fan could view the coaches film
we can’t really see how he does in coverage because the cameras focus on the LOS mostly until the ball is thrown.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
watch any replay of deep balls
They become highlights on you tube.
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Goldson always seems to be in plays, I think you may be confusing Roman with Goldson.
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#38 and #26
I didn’t say the Vikings game, I said the Falcons game. I know exactly who I am talking about.
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You are talking about one of the first seasons of the game then. I thought I said toward the end of the season his coverage skills got much much better didn’t I?
Early on in the season Goldson struggled in coverage, toward the end, he was making some fantastic plays on the ball.
Yep, I did.
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Well it’s a good thing then that a majority of plays aren’t over 20 yards then eh? I disagree with that anyway… he made plays down field and he missed some just like some of the best have. Even our beloved Ronnie Lott missed plays from time to time….it happens.
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Goldson in coverage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igsPJWbhfY0
(Nearly a 40 yarder from point of throw to point of INT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQfkpP5viiQ
(came from the other side of the field to pick this 40 yarder down field)
I have seen him deflect passes down field as well… again, no body can get ’em all.
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Interception on Warner is not 40 yards, look up the 31 yard TD vs the Falcons
When he was zoning deep middle and had a post pattern go across his coverage for TD with no other WR deep on the play.
Int vs Wallace? Ok, career backup with a noodle arm, and if the WR catches that he once again let someone underneath in his vacinity. I think he has coverage skills, I just think he lacks range deep down field. Doesn’t have to be Berry, but I think we need a deep cover safety.
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Doesn’t matter…point is your wrong that he can’t cover down field. Wallace doesn’t have a connon but I certainly wouldn’t say he has a noodle arm. That ball looked pretty online with velocity when it was tipped up.
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He does no have a cannon and it is closer to a noodle arm, that was a duck.
He is better in closer coverage, than deep. He is subpar in deep coverage. Did you watch the colts game, it was Manning being off, but goldson was out of position. Then the Falcons game, he came on late ( we faced worst passing teams) His best game was the Cardinals. He cannot cover downfield, I think we have a different understanding of downfield coverage.
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Completely disagree with all of that
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You don't want to agree you tube the plays and its in your face, you just don't want to be wrong.
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It’s not in my face, if anything it’s in yours. I can stand to be wrong and have admitted so before. When have you?
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As often as proven, its in your face means you should be able to see it, how can I.
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Huh? You lost me… The video speaks for itself. I shouldnt even have to explain it. It is what it is and I call it how it actually is
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It is merely your interpretation, you can't tell all from that video, it's not a Qb cam.
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You can see the direction in which the WR take off in and who is covering and which direction the QB’s head swivels in. I think thats enough to get the idea.
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Not enough to give the safety all of the credit.
I guess we can’t agree we need another safety?
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No, we do absolutely need another safety. A solid SS. Goldson is good and going to be for years to come. I think his coverage is only going to get better as it did this year.
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Weaker passing teams had nothing to do with that?
Forget it, back to semantics again.
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I am a Sneca Wallace fan, have been since Ia St.
He can’t throw the deep ball and the WR muffed it, and you disagree. We faced worst passing teams and you disagree, Vikings, Falcons, Colts, Cards, Houston in the first half of the season vs Eagles, Seatle, Cards, Rams, GB, Lions, how is the first half not better passing teams?
Completely disagree with all of that
But you tell it like it is, right?
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I am not going to argue semantics with you anymore. Goldson will be fine. Even if Berry is drafted, Goldson stays put. Berry plays SS
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Our safety whether SS or FS is interchangeable.
I don’t think Berry would be better closer than the LOS than Goldson.
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Interchangable? How? Lewis and Roman shared time…thats pretty much it. Goldson was the FS on every play no matter what side of the field he was on. The schemes reverse if a team brings an opposite look.
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There was no choice for him to not play deep
He is our best deep cover safety. Goldson also whiffed on the addai td toss.
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Interchangable as in anyone can be the deep man or they can both be deep, we just don't have any type of deep cover safety close to Goldson, so yeah he played deep most of the time.
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Count yards on the Warner pick from point of throw to point of INT. Besides, either way, it was futher than 20 yards as which you are saying is his limit.
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He can cover and he got way better toward the end of the season. I dont care what you say. I have eyes and everyone else has acknowledged this as well. You are the only one that has seemed to have had an issue with Goldson this past season. I can guarantee you won’t be saying this next year. He needed some time to adjust. It was afterall pretty much his first full year.
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Only challenge we had at the end of the year was the Eagles
I don’t care what you say, the Lions had no Qb, the Cards couldn’t block the rush and Warner (To Prone) was way off of his game. Rams and Lions, no need to comment. 3rd in the league in sacks yet 21st in the league in passing yards surrendered, despite stopping teams from running, we gave up the yards.
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We need another safety
Smith is a big ? then we have Roman and a concussion case, I think if you are gonna add a safety add one with more range than Goldson, because he is great within the first 20 from the LOS.
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Theres more than one DB on the team
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Exactly why all the coverage sacks aren't because of Goldson
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When the QB is looking directly his way for more than he should
waiting for an opening it is.
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Not the corner then? WR's run free with just a safety around?
there is not only one DB on the field.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb6GX0fEc34&feature=related
0:06 – First play of the feed: Warner looks toward Fitz, goes to his second proggression Goldson’s way, and then back over to Larry
0:12 – Second play of the feed: Warner looks toward Spencer’s direction, shakes that off then looks toward Goldson and then Sacked. Coverage sack.
1:11 – Hasselbeck looks Spencer’s and Goldson’s direction, sacked with no where to go.
1:36 – Your so-called noodle throw picked. Bounced off the WR’s hand in any case. Great concentration by Goldson.
1:54 – Favre looking Goldson’s direction the entire time, sacked.
2:30 – Favre looks Goldson’s and Spencer’s way first, no where to go, looks to the right, sacked.
3:15- Farve throws, Goldson nearly intercepts and the ball goes in the air for Spencer to converge on it and pick it.
4:15 – Boller no where to go. Sacked
4:30 – Again, looks Goldson’s way, no where to go. Sacked.
And to think that all this came in the beginning of the season and he only got better is pretty scary for offenses come next year. I know you may try and come back with a bunch of excuses but I don’t think it is reasonable to say he can’t cover. He had a few more problems in the beginning of the season but he got better. If you’re expecting him to make every play, sorry, it’s just not going to happen. Safeties blow coverage sometimes. It’s part of the game and some of the best of the best make mistakes. It’s how they recovered that counts and Goldson seems to shake things off quite well.
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Excuse?
Don’t need any i watched Goldson give up plays. It’s not that I don’t like him, he is gonna be great for this team, I just think we need a FS with MORE range and play him at SS (type) in the defensive scheme, I think he can be as good as Palomalu and I have said this before. THat is saying a lot and not saying I don’t like the guy.
To attribute all those sacs to Goldson is actually pretty hilarious, that was the pass rush, as well as a lot of INt’s the team had was because of PR. I like Goldson though, don’t get me wrong.
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Count the seconds. You obviously didn’t notice the QB’s looking his way and not having anywhere to go. He will be fine at FREE SAFETY. They aren’t going to move him.
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Safeties are interchangable in our defense call him what you want.
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Berry played under Monty Kiffin in Tenn.
Thats the NFL Tampa 2 defense. This guy played (and thrived) in a Pro system with Pro terminology by NFL caliber coaches.
This guy will be an instant impact wherever he go’s. His zone coverage skills are the best in the class and he hits like a mini-john lynch. I cant understand how anybody would think it a bad idea to trade up for this guy. Sure getting a Tackle and some other position with the two picks would in no way be a losing scenario… But the potential of what this defense can become with Berry at FS makes me drool. Manusky would finally have a player at safety that he can trust on an island, which means he can dial up more blitzes leaving Berry playing midfielder.
-Trade the two 1st rounders to get Berry. Draft the best lineman available(Tackle or guard) with the 2nd rounder. And go from there…
Having Willis at LB and Berry at safety would cement this defenses place as a top10 defense for years to come. Remember Ray Lewis and Ed Reed in their prime? They were the two main pieces in that Ravens defense for a decade. Bam Bam and Berry would be this next generations Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
We don't have to trade two 1sts for him
this has been talked about endlessly. I’m confident in saying that Berry will slip to at least #5 and maybe even to #10.
At that point you could trade a 1st and a 2nd and get him. There’s no need to mortgage the future for one player (no matter how good he is).
Besides, I don’t think McC will trade up. If he trades it will be back down.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Define mortgage the future
Is this the 49ers last draft. That statement has been loosely used and does not apply
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Giving up two first rounders to move up
is mortgaging the future.
I’m ok with giving up a 1st and a 5th
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
No it is not, that is false.
Amazing you would even say that. I don’t want to at all, 1 and 2 but not 1 and 1. Frankly mortgaging the future is picking a guy at a position that you need to fill a position, that really isn’t what you want. IE. Alex Smith, then not puting people around him for 4 or 5 years. One draft is not the future, if the outlook is that bleek, then the whole process may be overrated.
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I don't think it matters what system he played in
He is a player and he could fit in any system, if the Bucs want him they will take him.
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re: Berry being a ballhawk "ala Ed Reed"
For the record, Reed has 46 INTs in 8 seasons.
Lott had 43 in his first 8 seasons, or alternatively, 40 in his 8 seasons at safety.
Lott’s ballhawking ability was up there with anyone.
I don’t think anyone was claiming that Lott couldn’t intercept passes. We were comparing styles of play.
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Puff puff give, give is part of the process too
LOL…..JK
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