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49ers Worst QB of the decade

The 49ers began the last decade with a question mark surrounding the quarterback position.  Sure Jeff Garcia was the man at the helm, but given how 1999 went down I think plenty of people were worried about the QB position.  In 13 games (10 starts) after Steve Young went down, Garcia was 225/375 (60%) with 2,544 yards, 11 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.  Garcia struggled enough early on that Steve Stenstrom got three starts of his own midway through the season.  However, once 2000 hit, Garcia was the guy.  He showed dramatic improvement that second season, and even though the 49ers had their ups and downs during his time here, Garcia turned into a very solid quarterback.

Following the 2003 season, the 49ers began their salary purge to clean up the cap mess that was strangling the franchise.  Garcia was cut and thus began the now six year odyssey that has been the 49ers search for a franchise quarterback.  In that time the 49ers have had a whole assortment of awful quarterbacks.  Some were just plain bad quarterbacks (JTO), while others performed so atrociously that it was clear they should never have been an NFL quarterback (Pickett).  Either way, we've had a whole assortment of quarterbacks in the last six years, most of whom now appear on this list.

I've actually decided to include every QB that started a game for the 49ers since Jeff Garcia was cut.  One or two of them probably don't below on this list, but as I know somebody will have a complaint somewhere, I just decided to include every one of them in chronological order.  Head past the jump to check out the contestants.

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Tim Rattay (2000-2005): Given that I argued for Rattay as an honorable mention for one of the best draft choices in 49ers history, I would not have included him if I wasn't included every QB.  Rattay wasn't anything spectacular, but given where he was drafted and the numbers he put up, I strongly believe Tim Rattay was no worst than a below average quarterback.  And I'm sorry, but that just doesn't qualify for worst in my opinion.

In six seasons with the 49ers, Rattay completed 60.8% (356/586) of his passes for 3,941 yards, with 24 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.  Those aren't particularly awesome numbers, but look at the talent had when he was starter.  In Garcia's last season, Rattay did get a start with TO.  However, once Garcia was gone, aside from Eric Johnson's one great season, Rattay got the likes of Brandon Lloyd, Cedrick Wilson and Arnaz Battle.  Throw in a little Curtis Conway and Johnnie Morton, and you've got just a fantastic array of awfulness.

Ken Dorsey (2003-2005): Dorsey was a local product who made good at The U, leading Miami to a 38-2 record and one national title in his time there.  Of course, coming out of college I don't really know of anybody who expected him to turn into much of a professional quarterback.  The 49ers grabbed him in the seventh round of the 2003 NFL Draft, and in two seasons of play (2004-2005) Dorsey completed 54.1% (171/316) of his passes for 1,712 yards, 8 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

Although there weren't high expectations (similar situation to Rattay), Dorsey was definitely not as good as Tim Rattay at the NFL level.  That doesn't make him the worst, but it's certainly something to consider.

Alex Smith (2005-present): Part of the reason for including all the quarterbacks since Garcia was because of a guy like Alex Smith.  Obviously we can look first at the numbers.  He was the #1 overall pick in the 2005 draft.  Since then, Smith has completed 56.3% (660/1172) of his passes for 7,029 yards, 37 touchdowns and 43 interceptions.  Just based on a combination of the numbers and the expectations, one could argue he's been the worst quarterback of the decade.

Personally I don't think so, but I'm a noted Smith apologist of sorts.  I find myself curious to see how many people will go with Smith in this poll.  While I'll disagree with those people, I can definitely see the arguments for voting for him.

Cody Pickett (2004-2005): Talk about your cult favorite.  Cody Pickett spent most of his time with the 49ers playing special teams before injuries forced him into the starting lineup in 2005.  In two games, Pickett completed 40% (18/45) of his passes for 195 yards, 0 touchdowns and 4 interceptions.  I don't think anybody will soon forget his 1/13 for 28 yards performance against the Chicago Bears.  For some reason that game has stuck in my head.  It was a combination of that performance, the crazy wind, and Nathan Vasher's return of a missed field goal 108 yards for a touchdown to end the first half.  What's all the more amazing is that the 49ers were actually able to trade Pickett to the Texans for a 7th round pick.

Trent Dilfer (2006-2007): Dilfer was brought in to be a mentor for Alex Smith, who had just completed his rookie season.  Dilfer didn't take a single regular season snap in 2006, but was forced into action in 2007 when Alex Smith went down with a shoulder injury.  Dilfer made 6 starts and finished 113/219 (51.6%) with 1,166 yards, 7 touchdowns and 12 interceptions.  After years of working as a game manager, there really wasn't much of anything left in the tank.  Late in the season, Dilfer went down with a concussion that would end his season and lead to the beginning of a new short-lived era....

Shaun Hill (2006-present): Generally speaking I would not have included Hill in this category because he really hasn't been the worst QB for the 49ers.  I just don't see how one could justify picking Hill over a Pickett, JTO, or Ken Dorsey.  Shaun Hill was brought in the same season as Trent Dilfer and spent the whole season as the #3 QB.  Heading into 2007 nobody expected any changes until injuries took out Smith and Dilfer.  Hill ended up playing in three games, starting two and finishing 54/79 (68.4%) with 501 yards, 5 touchdowns and 1 interceptions, and seeming to spark something in the 49ers.  Over the course of three seasons, Hill is 322/522 (61.7%) with 3,490 yards, 23 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.  Earlier this season he lost his job back to Alex Smith and would seem unlikely to see the field again, barring injury.

Chris Weinke (2007): It's easy to forget that Chris Weinke actually managed 2 appearances, including 1 start, for the 2007 49ers.  Shaun Hill suffered a back injury against Tampa Bay and Weinke closed out the game, followed by a start in the season finale against the Cleveland Browns.  Weinke finished 13/22 (59.1%) with 104 yards and 1 touchdown.  It was certainly an incredibly forgettable time.

J.T. O'Sullivan (2008): Speaking of forgettable times, I'd love to forget JTO's 8 starts, but that's just not gonna happen anytime soon.  O'Sullivan was brought in after Mike Martz was named offensive coordinator, thanks to his work with Martz in Detroit for one season.  That time gave him a head-start in learning the Martz offense and was enough to help him win the job in training camp.  Those early weeks of training camp were a bit surreal.  Shaun Hill was rested with some arm fatigue, in what seemed to be a rather poor attempt to get him out of the picture.  Alex Smith had his chances but was eventually shut down for the season with continued shoulder problems.  And that left us with the man of a pair of widely used monikers: Just Turnovers and J.T. O'Mulligan (no Just Touchdowns with the 49ers).

All I know is that the J.T. O'Sullivan era was a train-wreck.  Sure the team was explosive, but it really was just bad times all around.  JTO was 128/220 (58.2%) with 1,678 passing yards, 8 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.  Of course, what really stood was the 32 sacks and numerous fumbles.  Technically he only lost 2 fumbles, but he coughed up the ball so many more times and had teammates recover the ball.  All in all, it was atrocious.

Poll
Who was the 49ers worst QB of the last decade?
Tim Rattay
59 votes
Ken Dorsey
168 votes
Alex Smith
135 votes
Cody Pickett
285 votes
Trent Dilfer
138 votes
Shaun Hill
12 votes
Chris Weinke
202 votes
J.T. O'Sullivan
766 votes

1765 votes | Poll has closed

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I’m proud to say that I saw Cody Pickett in person play. The game was against Buffalo and he stunk.

Randy Hahn: "I’ve been referred to as a playa…"

by 49er16 on Jan 19, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

JTO

It’s the comfortable pick and probably wasn’t his fault. (i can’t even say this without laughing). I blame martz for bringing him here. Anywhere else he would’ve done a fine job holding that clipboard and would never have been asked to actually play.

by srill waiting on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

I really liked Cody Pickett

because of that one time he made a tackle on special teams and then had to go find his QB helmet because he had to play QB all of a sudden.

That being said, he probably, statistically was the worst QB we had this past decade. BUT I voted for JTO because he did more to hurt the team than any other QB.

Shaun Hill, Alex Smith, and Tim Rattay in no way deserve any votes.

by foosball4949 on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM PST reply actions  

Cody Pickett

he’s now playing QB for the Toronto Argo’s in the CFL as the #2 spot in the depth Chart behind another former NFLer who played safety for the seahawks, his name Kerry Joseph.

by ro128487 on Jan 19, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Trent Dilfer

Never use a big word where a diminutive alternative would suffice.

by YoungWillis on Jan 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

Definitely JTO

The way he played against the Jets’ backups brought back some horrific times. Was Martz really that high on him??

by Mangoman on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Gotta be JTO

He had no sense of the pass rush whatsoever and practically drops the ball every time he was hit.

Win the inning.

by Scooter Ellis on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

OMG thats easy

if JTO had of played the entire season he would of demolished the record for most fumbles in a season

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jan 19, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Got to be JTO

Most of the other picks are simply average to below-average QBs, but JTO was horrible.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST reply actions  

This probably a good guess.

Those who voted for Hill or Smith did so out of spite!

by CorneliusJ on Jan 19, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah seriously....

I mean Hill’s numbers alone make him the best of the bunch. SHAUN HILL WAS OUR FUTURE!!!!!!!! lol jk!

by sanfranfanmdk on Jan 20, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

WE NEED VICK

Well, let me first start by saying that these aren’t our 80-90’s Niners….so ANY QB thrown into this “system” of bad defenses(with the exception of the last 2 years in which the niner D was outstanding) and even worse offenses would probably stink! Montana had a killer line with all pro BACKS at every position…and were lucky to have a Steve Young to take over after that…all the QB’s brought in after Garcia were doomed before they even took a single snap! So I choose JTO based on the fact he actually had a chance to prove himself…but obviously he didn’t. Shawn Hill and Alex Smith…along with the ENTIRE DEFENSE…deserve all the credit for the decent seasons we’ve had to endure waiting to get back to the playoffs…

by Cleez_From_NL on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

no vick

the guys is a terrible passer. if he wants to return kicks then maybe

im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!

by remembering9ergods on Jan 19, 2010 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Montana’s lines were never “killer.”

by Hoopers Judge on Jan 19, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah they were

the Niners offensive line coach during that time was one of the best ever.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 19, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

VICK WAS OUR FUTURE!!!!

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 21, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I voted Shaun Hill

…………..
…………..
Yeah, you know I’m lying. I voted JTO.

by Ovalshine on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

Alex Smith

Simply because it’s been 5 years and the team is still getting strung along waiting for an answer.

by bignerd on Jan 19, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

Most of ‘em I can excuse… Dorsey, Pickett, and Weinke were never viewed as starting options, just backups and emergency QBs. Dilfer was expected to be a mentor more than a starter. Rattay was fairly inexcusable as the starting QB, but I don’t think the franchise ever pinned their hopes on him for the long term. That was basically when the ship was completely rudderless, with Erickson and Donahue running the show.

Shaun Hill did fine, even if he didn’t prove to be a long-term answer. Alex Smith finally looks like he could be a fairly average – maybe a little above average? – quarterback.

I voted JTO, because he was considered a viable option as the starting quarterback, even benching Shaun Hill in favor of him. And when the wheels came off and Singletary took over, the offense looked less awful. So JTO it is.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST reply actions  

Rattay

Having been drafted in the 7th round, there’s no way they thought of him as the QBOTF. On the contrary, it took Gio Carmazzi, a QB drafted ahead of him, being put on IR for Rattay to become starting QB.

by Mangoman on Jan 19, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Rattay was pretty much a perfectly league average QB with the 49ers. His career + stats in every significant category are almost all right around 100. He really was pretty okay with us.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Jan 19, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta be Pickett

That game against Chicago was the worst single game I’ve seen ANY player have at ANY position. If he completes just two passes, we probably win the game.

Think of it this way, he completed only one more pass than I did, and I didn’t even play.

by ToddCommish on Jan 19, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

This list makes me sad

Makes me realize we’ve had mediocre QB’s at best since Garcia.

by Amigo on Jan 19, 2010 2:25 PM PST reply actions  

It’s fortunate that Jeff Garcia isn’t an option, I think Howtheyscored would have voted for him.

I'm thinking but nothing's happening.

by JRPhillips on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's no secret

our QB play has been sorry at best since we lost Garcia. I really hope Alex can emerge next season. This should be his last chance.

by mountaindew77 on Jan 19, 2010 2:26 PM PST reply actions  

Cody Pickett

If he would have got more playing time, I think there would have been an overwhelming selection for him in this poll.

But hey, …at least we got a 7th rounder for him.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

Why does Tim Rattay have more votes than Shaun Hill?

I’m not saying Hill was the worst of this decade, but Tim Rattay sure as hell wasn’t.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM PST reply actions  

JTO-Suckovan Easy

I always thought he was always playing for the other team as many times he gave them the ball.

by DCSMITH722 on Jan 19, 2010 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

Sounds about right to me that out of the QB’s on our roster now,alex is leading as the worst of the decade ! In reality Alex is not quite as bad as a few of those guys from the past BUT if you consider the fact that Alex being on the roster has held this team back from getting a real QB on the roster (up until we drafted Nate Davis !!!).
If Alex being on the team continues to hold the team back,as his presents has since ’05,then HE will obviously be the worst thing that has happened to the team overall,not just at QB.

by TIM___ on Jan 19, 2010 5:36 PM PST reply actions  

The other day Damon Bruce said that Mark Sanchez is already ten times the quarterback that Alex Smith will ever be. I’m no Alex Smith fan, but I’m REALLY not a Damon Bruce fan.

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 5:52 PM PST reply actions  

the Jets can honestly suck it...

they dont deserve to be in the playoffs and have a QB that has lost more games than won for them

by Joshpreet on Jan 19, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

True.

But I’d still love them to beat the Colts. “See, this is what you get for gift-wrapping games”.

Insert signature here.

by musketeer54 on Jan 20, 2010 2:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? I guess any idiot can get a sports talk show now-a-days.

by Hoopers Judge on Jan 19, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Drew Olson?

I can’t vote Cody Pickett. He was a rodeo guy. Besides, people forget how good he was for the Rhein Fire.

by Bob In Beaverton on Jan 19, 2010 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

The first two times I read that sentence I saw “Reign of Fire”, and thought he was a movie star or something

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 19, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions  

weinke,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hands down

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 PM PST reply actions  

The 45 year old rookie? Now why would you ever say that? lol

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The great 1 season bust

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 21, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought JTO was bad… but Alex Smith 2005 was the worst QB season in DVOA history (going back to 1994 or so)
-879 DYAR, -288 Eyards, -89.4% DVOA in almost 200 pass attempts.

(incidentally, both Cody Pickett and Aaron Rodgers had a worse DVOA last year, but in 2 and 1 games respectively)

JTO wasn’t nearly as bad – although he was still “worst starting QB in the league bad”, with a -37% DVOA and -414 DYAR in 257 passes. In fact, Smith’s 2007 – while not DVOA record breaking awful, was still worse than JTOs career. Dilfer was even worse in 2007.

If you are not convinced:
2009 JaMarcus Russell: -57.2% DVOA, -755 DYAR, in 280 passes.

Weinke actually played (slightly) better than Smith and Dilfer in 2007

So, do two awful (including one historically so) seasons and 2 merely bad ones make you a better QB than a two start Cody Pickett?

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by zenbitz on Jan 20, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

JTO

He was 5-15 with the Oakland Raiders and got fired before his second season was over. He went 7-6 in his one year at Tennessee in a season when the SEC wasn't terribly good. He lost at home to UCLA; the Bruins only road win in the Pac-10 came at Washington State.

by MadBum on Jan 20, 2010 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

Why Hill?

Why is he even on the list? Nothing was expected of him

I miss Joe Montana/Steve Young/Jeff Garcia

by Mr HowsYourWife on Jan 31, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

QBs

I mentioned it just before listing the players: I included every QB that started a game since Jeff Garcia was cut.

by David Fucillo on Jan 31, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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