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Mel Kiper's Mock Draft: 49ers picks

I've noticed some links to Mel Kiper's first mock draft of the Draft Season, and I figure it'd be useful to throw the picks up here for all to see and discuss.  It's Insider protected and doesn't get down to the 49ers, so this will be somewhat helpful for folks.

#13: Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
Kiper: I consider the right tackle position a big need for the 49ers, and getting Williams here should strengthen them immediately both in the run game and as they look to further develop a potentially dangerous passing game with Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis.

#16: Earl Thomas, S, Texas
Kiper: The 49ers need help in pass coverage, and Thomas fits because he's a great value here, whereas reaching for a CB at No. 16 wouldn't represent good value at all. Thomas isn't a huge guy but can cover a tremendous amount of real estate.

Mike Sando posted his own thoughts on the picks.  Taking a potential right tackle this high will certainly raise some eyebrows (as it does a bit with Sando), but given how big a need this is for the 49ers, I think that overcomes some of the doubts.

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Hm...

I’d be happy with these picks. I’d rather take Eric Berry at 13 and then wait for 16 to take Thomas, but the odds of Berry dropping all the way down to 13 are extremely bad.

But like he said, a solid right tackle is a HUGE need for our o-line.

-Brett Gleason
-Daily Evergreen Sports Writer

by Brett the 49er on Jan 21, 2010 3:15 PM PST reply actions  

Sando puts it in perspective for a lot of people who doubt that Scot M isn’t afraid to pull the trigger on a difference maker/ playmaker type of guy if the right one is there at either pick.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 21, 2010 3:20 PM PST reply actions  

I put this up as a Fanshot and will repeat and add to what I said there. I think I would rather have Spiller, who went at 14 and Bulaga, who went at 18 but these two would not upset me. The issue is taking a OT this high when the Niners have another pick 3 or 4 picks later. In Kiper’s mock Spiller is available when we pick at 13. With Bulaga still there when we pick at 16 or 17 in his mock, the niners still will be able to get their tackle even if Willams is selected by one of the teams between the Niners picks. Since the Niners must, in my opinion, take a OT in the first round, the choice is between Thomas or Spiller. Both are positional needs, Thomas more then Spiller, but Spiller is the better pick in my opinion.

I want me some Buster

by gbears16 on Jan 21, 2010 3:23 PM PST reply actions  

My main issue is

Williams STINKS at LT. Why the hell are we picking a guy that can ONLY play RT with our first pick? We could move down to 25 and Williams will still probably be on the board. The only line picks worth top 13 are Okung, Bulaga and Campbell.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 5:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I would much rather have Bulaga over Williams.

I want me some Buster

by gbears16 on Jan 23, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Kiper's Mock Draft #1

Here is the response I sent to Kiper after reviewing his piece:

I don’t understand either of your first round selections for the 49ers. Why would they select Trent Williams over either Bryan Bulaga or Bruce Campbell? Just doesn’t make sense. Why would they select Earl Thomas over Taylor Mays? Mays has much more upside potential. In my opinion, Thomas’s results are largely a product of the defensive team in front of him, not exclusively his own skills. If I were sitting in your chair I would select CJ Spiller (for change-of-pace RB / slot WR / kick & punt-returner) at 13, thus depriving devision rival Seattle, and Bulaga (or Campbell if Bulaga is not available) at 16/17. Then in 2011, I would select McDaniel (Clemson safety) or other very-best safety in the first round and Kai Forbath (UCLA kicker) in the second or third round, since Joe Nedney is approaching 40.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 21, 2010 3:37 PM PST reply actions  

From what I understand...

… Thomas has more ball skills than Mays, which is the kind of help the 49ers need right now. Mays is basically a younger version of what the 49ers already have at SS.

The picks are certainly disagreeable, but his reasonings behind the picks aren’t as terrible as you’re pushing.

by sfgfan on Jan 21, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

WAYYYYY more ball skills

Thomas is a ballhawk and coverage Safety. I see Mays getting shifted to a hybrid OLB/SS

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 5:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, we're waiting....

by drummer on Jan 21, 2010 3:42 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

lol… he doesn’t even like his own mock

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 21, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s mocking his own mock

"Any time I watch a game on television, I have to turn the commentators off. They say 'he's playing well' and I'm thinking 'no, he's not.' My advice to anyone is don't listen to the experts, just watch the game and gather your own opinion."
-Roy Keane

by Useful_Idiot on Jan 21, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

LMAO

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 21, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

?The Make or Break Draft?

The importance of the upcoming draft, as it pertains to the 9ers, is one of the most crucial drafts in years. Head Coach Mike Singletary has, without a doubt, a strong foundation of players and coaches that are continuely going in the right direction. The managements ability to mend an unstable O-line, add talent to the secondary, and find the right player to bring a spark to a dull return game. Could easily mean the difference between 8-8 and 11-5.
ROUND 1 PICK #13 Trent Williams OT – Oklahoma
Williams is already an NFL right tackle. His addition of strength and quickness will add a great demention to the off-tackle runs that Gore thrives on. He also has potential to fill in at left tackle if required.
ROUND 1 PICK #16 Golden Tate WR – Notre Dame
I know, I know, it sounds early, but Goldson has become a great ballhawk, and solid tackler since taking over the starting job. Taking a strong safety this early in the draft seems crazier to me. Tate is an explosive return man, with excellent hands, speed, quickness, leaping ability, and is superb in YAC.
This is what I would like to see from the team. The addition of another multiple threat player to help back defenses off of the line, create seams for Davis, and make teams play Crabtree 1 vs 1. Williams’ expierence and raw talent cannot be denied. Teaming him with Staley would give the team bookend tackles for many years to come. This draft could be the spring board into the playoffs. Or, it could keep the team stuck in the rut of mediocraty.

by cranman on Jan 21, 2010 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

Tate would have to run a 4.4 or better to be picked in the 1st round.

People don’t like his size—nor do the Niners. Remember, the Niners like big-bodied types that can block well, and that’s not Tate’s profile. Maybe in the 2nd or the 3rd, but not at #16.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 21, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Not a big fan of Tate

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 21, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not?

Other than the obvious (poor route running, questionable speed)…

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 10:51 PM PST up reply actions  

too little when considerimg speed

Tribute to #44...............The Elmira Express!!

by rlott#42 on Jan 22, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

He's not what I would think of as a typical NFL wr

He reminds me of like a poor man’s DeSean Jackson. But even that’s saying a lot. I think all he’d be on the Niners is a return man. And for that I wouldn’t get him at #16.

by Mangoman on Jan 22, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not advocating the pick

I just wanted to get Drew’s opinion on Tate.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions  

wait so do we have #16 pick or #17?

I keep seeing in some we have the #16 pick and others the #17.

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Jan 21, 2010 4:45 PM PST reply actions  

pending coin flip.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Jan 21, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Who are we competing against?

Meaning, who would pick in front of us if we lost.

Sometimes I lay in bed at night and wonder if McCloughan ever thought about becoming a gynecologist.

by Mr. Nice Guy on Jan 21, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Titans, I believe....

Not 100% sure though.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets hope Alex Smith or Jake Delhomme aren’t flipping the coin or it will be “Pick Titans!”

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2010 12:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Guys who would keep me from drafting the best available tackle at #13:

Ndomakong Suh
Eric Berry
Rolando McClain
C.J. Spiller (maybe, if there’s a good chance there will still be a RT at 16/17)

honestly, that’s about it…

Idolizing Robb Nen since 2002...

by Smoke on the Water on Jan 21, 2010 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

Possible choices at #13 --

I absolutely agree! These guys are “difference-makers” from day 1; we will get an outstanding RT at #16/17 — in my preferred sequence: Bulaga, Campbell, Davis, or Williams.

by 49erFanSince1950 on Jan 21, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup

and two of those may be available there at 13.

It will take a miracle for Berry to slip that far. Suh will absolutely not slip that far. McClain might (slim chance) slip that far. Spiller almost certainly will be there.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 21, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

this

there will be one immediate playmaker, difference maker who falls to 13 and we should nab him there. We are really talking about a RT anyways so there is no rush to reach on guys that are likely going high to play LT.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 22, 2010 5:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Talent wise McClain yes

He is a top 7 level talent… However he’s not one we need AT ALL. This would be like drafting Clausen when you already have Payton Manning. Pointless pick. Spiller I am still worried cause even though he is a tough dude he gets little nagging injuries ALL THE TIME. That will add up as his career goes along.

Other than that Only Berry or Suh or McCoy would stop me from taking Okung/Bulaga/Campbell at 13. Staley is great but he’s not a pro bowler. Give me a guy that can play RT while Staley is healthy and if Staley goes down and he moves over there and dominates then great!

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 5:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone else find it interesting that someone not within a circle of 49ers fans would consider the 49ers passing offense potentially dangerous without suggesting a first round QB?

by sfgfan on Jan 21, 2010 4:52 PM PST reply actions  

Good point. Though with skills players like the Niners have and possibly taking an elite OT in the draft what QB with NFL tools and expirence couldn’t succeed?

by Hoopers Judge on Jan 21, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex Smith?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

QB's In This Draft

Do any of these QB’s available warrant a high pick?? I don’t think so..Bradford and Clausen are the two QB’s going high and neither one of them really excite me..Does either of these guys excite you enough to take them in the first round??

As much as I don’t like Smith, I would rather take a chance on one of the MAC QB’s later in the draft..

by The Sear on Jan 22, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm very high on Clausen.

He had an amazing year in a pro-style offense.
Mark Sanchez had one good game and that got him selected No. 5 Overall.

I don’t like Bradford though.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 22, 2010 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not high on Clausen at all

Tate made him look better than he is. He is about the same as Matt Sanchez.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 5:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I seriously doubt the 49ers will reach for Williams at that point

therefore; it possible and quite probably that this mock is bogus.

by Jayd92009 on Jan 21, 2010 4:58 PM PST reply actions  

He’ll change it two more times before the draft anyway

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 21, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

And he'll still be way off....

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If at # 13 there are still 3 good OTs available then the 49ers will probably take the BPA

I heard that Sing love McClain, and then there is Spiller who fills the COP back and KR/WR spots, and others who could go at # 13 with the OT at # 16/17

I am still working with my personal psychic to work out getting Berry, McClain, Spiller, Bulaga without any trades. Also, having Bradford fall to the 4th round and we pick him up.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jan 21, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

where did you hear Sing loves McClain?

I love him, but Singletary wont return my calls on the matter…

I’m really starting to like Spiller. I think he’s a guy that while he might not be projected top 10…he’s going to have the kind of impact in the league that you’d look foolish if you passed on him.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 22, 2010 5:07 AM PST up reply actions  

He is taking somethign out of context

Maiocco said that guys like McClain meet all the criteria of the guys Sing loves. And of course he does but he’s a redundant pick. How much good does having Briggs and Urlacher on the field at the same time do for the Bears? It hasn’t won them any championships recently. They take away from each others utility.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 6:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Sing likes guys who get low pad level, McClain is just the opposite.

by bignerd on Jan 23, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Williams isn't a reach

He didn’t do such a great job at LT this year but he was the nation’s best RT last year. Plus he’s shown that he has versatility playing both LT and Center this year.

Personally I’d rather have Bulaga if he’s still available but the Williams pick wouldn’t upset me.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 21, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

What ! A RT this year ?

Could have had a good last year. And we all believe the McC is going to do the right thing this year. I’m holding my breathe !!!

by LASVEGASNINER on Jan 21, 2010 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

The fact that we've got 2 1st-rounders makes it more likely that we'll take the BOTA, right?

Seriously, I don’t know who would have to be there for the Niners not to take a need guy with one of those two picks.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 21, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's the scenario where I can see us waiting 'til the second to get a tackle

McClain slips to 13 so we grab him there. Spiller slips to 17 so we grab him there. We can then get someone like Kyle Calloway to be RT for us in the 2nd round and someone like John Jerry for OG in the 3rd.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 21, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Good god, NO......

I can’t take another season of Adam Snyder….They must draft a RT in the 1st round….

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 21, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't want that to happen either

but I think that would be the only scenario where we wouldn’t draft a tackle in the first round.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 21, 2010 11:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Calloway would compete for the RT spot

and probably win over good old turnstile

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 22, 2010 7:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Calloway isn't even that good.

A freshman started at RT for the Orange bowl right?
Calloway was playing G.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 22, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

???

Does that show versatility?
Does that show a willingness to do whatever the team needs?
Does it mean the “other guard” sucked and the back up tackle was ok, but couldn’t play guard?

Are you jumping to an unwarranted conclusion?

by CorneliusJ on Jan 22, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The tackle that replaced him was outstanding

Much better than Calloway….

All that told me about Kyle is that he’s probably going to be a RG in the NFL.
We need a RT and LG.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Only 'cause I'm out of it

What’s going on with Barry Sims? Is he a UFA? Have the Niners said they don’t expect him back next season? I’m only asking because he held down the fort reasonably well when Staley was out. But I guess he can’t play RT otherwise Snyder would have been booted out by now.

by Mangoman on Jan 22, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

He definitely can't play RT

See: 2008

But he probably doesn’t have many options (he’s like 35)
I’d love to have him back as a back-up.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Another scenario:

The Niners pick up a RT in FA.

Alaska is a state, dammit! Can I get a Niner game on TV up here?

by kinglouie33 on Jan 22, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets get a Pro Bowl player. Here's how...

Package the 13th and 49th picks for KC’s 5th. Take Eric Berry or Russell Okung if one or the other is still available. Would KC do it? Maybe, they have a lot of needs.

by NeenerNeener on Jan 21, 2010 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

Like that idea.

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 21, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a point chart

http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/draft_point_value_chart.htm
It would be 150 points short. We could trade up to the 7th overall pick for a 1st and a 2nd. But in order to go up to the 5th you have to throw in the third rounder as well. But we could trade down our 16th pick for a second and a later first basically trading down our 2nd and a third to get Berry.

by manraj7 on Jan 21, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions  

this

or something like it is what we could do. trade up into the 5th spot, then trade back down to late 1st round for another second, to make up for the one we lost, possibly a second and a few thirds if we give up the later 1st altogether

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 22, 2010 7:10 AM PST up reply actions  

150 points short

OK, we will throw in Mark Roman. Also point charts are not strictly followed anymore.

by NeenerNeener on Jan 22, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Roman?

He’s worth like .02 points.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 22, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Roman's....

… a FA anyway, so he’d be worth negative points.

by sfgfan on Jan 22, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Even as a FA, we just can't seem to get rid of him.

He was asked to seek a trade last offseason…..nothing.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 22, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

On the side of the team that is getting offered the trade

We would have to offer them OVER the value if Berry is available at 5 or 7. Its not a damn charity.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 6:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Good Idea, But Won't Happen

As dumb a franchise as KC is, I can’t see them moving back 8 spots for the 49th pick..It doesn’t make sense to them..

I like the idea, but you have to remember that KC has Scott Pioli running the team now and he is a very bright guy..If Petersen was still in charge, we might have been able to do it..

by The Sear on Jan 22, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Pioli is a New England guy.

New England was/is always interested in moving back to stock pile picks. Especially in deep drafts where there is a lot of value outside of teh first round.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Jan 22, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Trent williams 13 & brandon spikes 17

49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be

by swagger on Jan 21, 2010 11:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

That's my LB!

I’m not so sure about Trent but I am looking OT at that pick.

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2010 12:17 AM PST up reply actions  

PUKE

Spikes at 49

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 23, 2010 6:06 AM PST up reply actions  

First Round Picks

I have no problem with Williams or Buluga at 13, but I would like to see them get a stud pass rusher at 16 or Spiller at 13 and Williams or Buluga at 16..

If for some crazy reason McClain is there at 13 grab him quickly..I think he might end up being one of the two or three best players in this draft..

by The Sear on Jan 22, 2010 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

First Round picks

If the Niners don’t somehow add a serious pass rusher as well as an OT someone’s not doing their job

by Gonzo49er on Jan 22, 2010 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

So you want the 49ers to trade up and draft Suh than force him to play ironman at both offensive and defensive line?

by bignerd on Jan 22, 2010 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

They used to do it in the 50's right?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 12:04 AM PST up reply actions  

First Round Picks

Intriguing but untenable for the big guys in the modern NFL. Though the 9er’s may have weakness in the secondary, nothing exposes a secondary like lack of pass rush. My response was to the idea of drafting a safety, which is just dumb when what they need, either through the draft or free agency, is a legitimate pass rusher…and a right tackle. Two spots-two draft picks…makes sense to me

by Gonzo49er on Jan 23, 2010 9:05 AM PST reply actions  

First Round

Spiller, Spiller, SPILLER!!! Hes going to be a great player not only at RB but in the return game. who did we have returning kicks last year?? Arnaz Battle, Allen Rossum… enough said. Our usual starting field position was terrible which was another contribution to our lacking offense. Also spiller is electrifying and would be a great threat in the passing game, he could help in the screen game also. I also think that we need to take either an OT that is worth it at 16 (Bulaga, Davis) if they’re not available then a pass rush specialist because if we could get to the QB our D would be top 5 in the league.

by Ninerfanforlife54 on Jan 28, 2010 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

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