100 in 100: Dez Bryant (12 of 100)
by Drew Kerr on Jan 23, 2010 7:00 PM PST
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PrintHow does a college wide receiver get in trouble?
Hanging out with Deion Sanders seems to be the common answer to that punch line for players coming in to the NFL.
Oklahoma State Wide Receiver seems to have had everything going for him and was doing very well at the start of his Junior year and was on an early pace to repeat the success he had his Sophomore year. In case anyone was unaware, Bryant had been at former NFL star Neon Deion Sanders' house for a visit. On October 7th, 2009 Bryant was ruled ineligible by NCAA Officials for not fully disclosing information of his interaction with Sanders. Before the suspension, Bryant was considered a possible candidate for The Heisman Trophy Award.
As a Freshmen, Bryant put up fairly decent numbers with 43 Receptions, 14.5 Yards a Catch, and had 6 Touchdowns. The Oklahoma State Wide Receiver emerged his Sophomore year as one of the elite receivers in the Nation. He managed to rack up nearly 1500 yards on 87 Catches and capped off with 19 TD's. Bryant is still considered to be the number one receiver entering the 2010 NFL Draft after in some ways being forced to forgo his Senior year. Bryant has the chance to be an elite Wide Receiver at the pro level in my opinion and will be starting more than likely for the 2010 Season.
After the jump, we'll look at the stats, highlights, and awards Bryant has earned through the course of his collegiate career...
First off, my apologies for the music in the video. If you don't care for it, it's your choice to mute it. I chose this video because of the highlights, not for the music. With that being said, in the video, Bryant shows that he is capable of some spectacular catches. He regularly catches the ball with his hands which is the number one thing that pro scouts look for in a wide receiver. Bryant is relatively large for a future NFL wide receiver and illustrates that he can get physical if need be. He has nice foot work and good route running ability.
AWARDS AND HONORS:
- 2007 Second Team Freshmen All-American
- 2008 First Team All-American
CAREER STATS:
| Stats Overview | Receiving | Rushing | Fumbles | |||||||||
| YEAR | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST |
| 2007 | 43 | 622 | 14.5 | 39 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8.0 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2008 | 87 | 1480 | 17.0 | 80 | 19 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 | 17 | 323 | 19.0 | 46 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 2009 Regular Season Game Log | Receiving | Rushing | Fumbles | |||||||||||||
| DATE | OPP | RESULT | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST | ||
| 9/5 | Georgia | W 24-10 | 3 | 77 | 25.7 | 46 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| 9/12 | Houston | L 45-35 | 5 | 85 | 17.0 | 29 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| 9/19 | Rice | W 41-24 | 9 | 161 | 17.9 | 38 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | ||
| 9/26 | Grambling State | W 56-6 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 10/10 | @Texas A&M | W 36-31 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 10/17 | Missouri | W 33-17 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 10/24 | @Baylor | W 34-7 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 10/31 | Texas | L 41-14 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 11/7 | @Iowa State | W 34-8 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 11/14 | Texas Tech | W 24-17 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 11/19 | Colorado | W 31-28 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 11/28 | @Oklahoma | L 27-0 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
| 2009 Postseason Game Log | Receiving | Rushing | Fumbles | |||||||||||||
| BOWL | OPP | RESULT | REC | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | ATT | YDS | AVG | LNG | TD | FUM | LST | ||
| AT&T COTTON BOWL | @Mississippi | L 21-7 | Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats. | |||||||||||||
SUMMARY AND PROJECTIONS:
Bryant, like I mentioned above, seems to be on the larger side for an NFL Wide Receiver. His route running is crisp and his hands are exceptional which, regardless of the NCAA suspension, will keep his stock up enough to be the first wide receiver selected in the 2010 Draft. He could go as early as the 5th pick overall to the Chiefs considering that ex-offensive coordinator, Todd Haley, may try and build his team in the same manner that the Cards did by selecting Fitzgerald and Boldin. There are other needs there but I see it as a possibility. Bryant is 6'2" 210.
Possibilities -- Chiefs, Browns, Raiders, Jags, Broncos, Dolphins
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dez..
reminds me alot of marshall if you see his route running with a little more vertical. i remember crabtree vs bryant was a hot topic. would be crazy if we both had them. i think morgan has jmorg has a lot of skill also too tho.
Marshall
This is the best comparison Dez Bryant can get.
Brandon Marshall has about the same speed as Bryant (4.52-4.58-ish)
It seems like Marshall has more acceleration, although I’m just basing that off my eyes (not stats).
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
If we didn’t have holes on the o line and secondary maybe but I don’t Holdout part 2 though lol
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
I'd rather have Crabtree + Bulaga
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Yup :)
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather have Oher and a playoff spot. Then I could live with Bryant and Spiller
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Who's to say that Bulaga won't get us in the playoffs?
I have no problem with waiting a year to get into the playoffs if it gets us a better WR than Bryant and an OT that’s just as good as Oher.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I would rather be plaing in the playoffs getting my QB that experience NOW vs waiting a year for him to get it, as well as the rest of the roster and coaches.
No one in the whole organization knows squat because they have never been to the playoffs.
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And you do?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
And I do what?
I know that experience means a lot going forward. If that is the case how do you know anything about football?
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Excuse me?
You’re saying the organization
knows squat.
I asked that since the organization doesn’t have a clue, maybe you do?
And you get snippy and say I don’t know anything about football…..
Chill.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
?
I’m not insulting your football knowledge…
I’m sorry if I offended you, though.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
1 out of how many count out the whole roster and coaches.
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He's the most important coach.
And since he’s the one making the decisions, I think he’s the only one that matters.
McCloughan, BTW, has been with playoff teams before he came to SF.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
He is not the only one that matters.
It matters more with the players than the coaches.
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Why?
I think that since he’s the leader, he’s the most important guy on the team.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Ok, so none of the players need the experience?
How many games did Singletary stress that this team is not ready for the mental aspect of what it takes to close teams out? How many times did we watch this team make mistakes like young players do. Coaches do not have to translate anything on the field, this game is not won on the sideline alone, it has more to do with the field.
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Just as good as Oher has yet to be determined.
Let’s hope Bulaga would give up one sack vs Jared Allen in his 1st game at LT and then none vs the Colts.
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Berry & Bulaga 2010 :)
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
If we took care of the OL we would have a better shot at Berry
Now we have none, it would be stupid to trade up.
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I can dream
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
I can dream
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Weren't you advocating trading up earlier this month?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
I would love to see it, I hope they do still.
It wouldn’t make sense and I never thought they would. They could still recover form the pick and address the needs but they could be letting a player like SPiller go to the Seahawks. I think sometimes you have to draft talented guys so you don’t have to play them. Draft Soiller and trade him to the AFC, but don’t let him go to the Seahawks.
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That's part of it too
When I drafted Spiller in the mock at least half the reasoning was to keep him out of Seattle. If I though that Seattle wasn’t going to get him I would’ve grabbed Thomas with 1a, then 1b with Bulaga.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Yeah. We need a good safety desperately.
Of course in a real draft I could’ve traded up to grab him when he fell past #5
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I think so too.
It’s just that Thomas made crabtree infamous!
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I think practices would be amusing with those two.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Thomas
Bey Bey?
Or Earl Thomas?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not understanding this line of logic. Keep him out of Seattle? Let them do it, 1st Rnd RB is a waste or resources these days. Ya, he’ll be real difficult to deal with on a team with with no offensive line and no QB whose not much for running between the tackles.
Sounded good, I think he'd be a great pick because we haven't had that kind of explosiveness
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I don't see the seahawks drafting Spiller
Especially not if they can grab guys like Sam Bradford and Derrick Morgan with their 2 1st rounders.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
Why does it have to be Spiller?
Why do they even have to spend a pick on the weakest RB class in recent memory anyways?
There could potentially be many more players available at 14.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
You're being sarcastic
He’s one of those ‘crazy system’ receivers you don’t think very highly of…
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
It's called the Spread Offense
Maybe your not used to seeing innovation on the football field.
Has Bill Walsh really been gone that long?
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
Glad to see you're back.
Maybe you can get into it with rlott about Michael Crabtree (not) being the right pick last year.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
lol
I doubt he’ll listen to me, but we both know Crabtree makes the 49ers better for at least the next 5 years. How could that be wrong?
Hey, and thanks. I’ll try to do less lurking and post something every once in a while so y’all won’t think I’m dead.
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
Better how?
He gievs us a better WR option, but does it make the offense better overall. VD was having a good year before he came. So what improved? i could be blinded by my own bullheadedness, enlighten me!
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VD's biggest game....
…Was Crabtree’s first NFL start.
Coincidence?
Probably.
But Vernon Davis started putting up better numbers when Alex Smith and Crabtree both stepped into the picture.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions
Absolutely
Crabtree makes everyone on the offense better IMHO.
I’m sure you’ve already seen it but check out this video.
After the play, the defender had to go pick up his jock strap he was juked out of.
Now, let’s see what Smith to Crabtree will look like after a full off-season to practice their timing.
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
I would say it was more Smith than Crabtree
Crabtree’s performance in the Houston game had nothing to do with Davis making the plays he did.
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Houston game? Not a fair comparison
As the video I posted above suggests, Crabtree improved as the season progressed. He will be a great NFL receiver.
Is he there yet? Almost…
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
He will be great, I referred to the Houston game since someone suggested he mad players around him better.
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VD's worst game was after Crabtree was added
He did have a near 100 yd 2td game before Crabtree was in the lineup.
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My thoughts
We all know he runs nice routes, has great hands, and extends well to make the catch.
My biggest beef with him is his inability to get separation when covered 1-on-1. If you look at all the highlight videos (and the actual games) you’ll notice that his amazing catches came against great coverage.
I have concerns that NFL DBs will make plays on those balls and he won’t be able to make the catch.
He’ll completely annihilate zone coverage, though.
In 2008 I always argued (not here) that Crabtree was a better WR because of his ability to get separation and because he is more elusive (although not as strong) than Bryant.
Although we will never know Crabtree’s 40 time, I’m pretty sure he’s faster than Bryant, BTW.
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Boldin and Marshall don’t exactly get open either. Mostly they run simple routes and use their wide body to block the defender from the ball. Tackling them than becomes a rodeo.
Lol yeah thats true.
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 23, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t compare Dez to Crabtree. Two different type of receivers. If Dez is successful in the NFL it would be following the Marshall and Boldin blueprint.
Well I didn't start the Crabtree/Bryant comparison
But I was just mentioning my stance on that old argument because of a comment above (by supraman).
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that's you (and a few others)
I consider Crabtree a much better WR than Bryant.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And Bulaga won't?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
We have to wait and see, we know about Oher already.
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I'm willing to wait and see.
Just like some are willing to wait and see if Dez Bryant will be good.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously we have no choice, we already screwed up.
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According to you.
I think they’re doing great.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Based on what?
A playoff appearance?
Oh wait, you are willing to wait.
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The fac that the team has improved every season since Singletary took charge.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
fact*
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
Singletary didn't draft Crabtree
And wouldn’t have, if it was his decision.
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I doubt the pick happens if he doesn't approve
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
You leave me no choice
The Video Evidence
Mike Singletary @ 1:28 into the video—-
I’m just very thankful that Scott McCloughan…Our GM was sitting there and lookin’ in my eyes and saying ‘Mike, look at our board. We gotta take Crabtree.’ And obviously I knew that…
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
Glad to see that video again
Good memories.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
Typical Singletary run around
Gotta be kicking himself for that one…..LOl
JK
Welcome back!!
What do you think about trading up for Berry? you havemissed alot of that discussion.
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I've been following it somewhat
I agree that trading up for him would be a good idea.
I also agree the Front Office doesn’t have the cajones…
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
C'mon
Singletary drafted Crabtree……..
Please, don’t suggest otherwise.
Do I have to dig up the video again?
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
LOL
Dude, I’ve been real busy. Between work and all the Texas Tech stuff, I don’t get over here very often.
And, if you’re interested, Mike Leach was railroaded.
Even ESPN is starting to see the light.
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
I’m not against Tech. I’m impartial to the Leech situation. Neither side helped themselves in that debacle.
Obviously, you don't know the facts
Please read the links above before drawing your conclusions.
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
Already read Leaches side of the story
It’s one person’s word agianst the other. He put hisself in that position. Get himout of the light and I don’t know where he went, shows no ownership of his staff’s or his actions, which is not the way to go dealing with players that don’t get paid. He was stupid in that regard and left himself in a vulnerable position. Just my opinion, I don’t think he should have been fired, but I understand why. you are a tech fan, of course you think he was hosed, he was a good coach for you guys.
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Among the records we requested were “copies of any and all written complaints about Mike Leach’s treatment of players from the time he was hired to the present.” The official response was “after a review of known records, no documents exist which are responsive to your request.” In other words there are absolutely no written complaints about the way Leach treated players during his 10 years as head coach.
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
Dig the video
Video means squat when it comes to Sing, he never threw that ridiculous Ol under the bus and had a chance for 16 weeks, and every week he should have. He did say he didn’t get what he wanted in the draft in the final game post interview. I don’t believe he would have taken him.
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Thanks!
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
You have been MIA for a while, good to see you back
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Thanks Drew
'I wanna see him be able to catch the short pass and be elusive and go for six.'
-Jerry Rice on Michael Crabtree
I will leave it at this.
Oher vs Crabtree
Oher- Better run blocking and pass blocking, hence Smith would be more comfortable with a pocket forming around him. Right side of the line has 1 year under their belt. We would know what we have in ALL of our WR’s going into this season and know exactly what to do as far as that position is concerned, IMO, we still need a numer 2. Morgan would have more reps, Hill would have more reps, then you add better WR’s and Smith has played a year with inferior wideouts and should be bale to adjust (considering he is any good)
Crabtree- No OL continuity next year, No clear cut number 2 on the team at WR. Who is Hill and Morgan? I don’t know. QB will have happy feet beginning the next season after yet another year of no protection.
I’d rather have taken Oher, it will continue to be discussed as long as I hear that we’d rather have drafted Jackson, it’s the same diff.
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dude..
your an idiot. oher is a superb tackle, but crabtree is a premier play maker type of reciever. plus we can draft an olines men or even in the off season. i went to a couple of their practices..and crabtree can run routes like no other. its unbelievable. plus he got hands. oher over crabtree is suicide.
I don't care if you have Moss or Fitzgerald, if your Qb does not have 3 seconds to throw they can't get open to get a decent pass.
The offensive line works for ALL playmakers on offense, a WR works for himself first then the QB. WIthout the OL there is no WR and I am an idiot. I could care less how well he runs routes and how well he catches, if the QB is on his back, he can’t get the ball. Use the reply button genius.
Oher makes Gore, Davis, Smith and any other offensive player BETTER or more capable to perform, crabtree does not open holes for gore or bye smith time running routes.
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"I don't care if you have Moss or Fitzgerald, if your Qb does not have 3 seconds"
That’s BS. If you have Moss or Fitz, then you will see fewer 5/6 man rushes which means you should have more than 3 seconds on most plays.
Defenses respect teams with weapons, not teams with great offensive lines. Why do you think the Jets offense was such garbage before getting Braylon Edwards even though he’s not even on the level of Moss/Fitz?
Oher would have been a solid pick, but this team would still have a horrible offense with him. Gore may have run up another 50-100 yards over the course of the season, but it wouldn’t make up for how absolutely mediocre the Niners entire receiving corps is minus Crabtree and Davis.
You need weapons or a franchise QB to have a great offense. The Niners have neither right now. Give them a great O-Line and the only thing that will drop is the sacks and turnovers. They will merely be the NY Jets.
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 24, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe you should think before you type. Brady and Warner seen a lot of that despite, who at WR?
That’s BS. If you have Moss or Fitz, then you will see fewer 5/6 man rushes which means you should have more than 3 seconds on most plays.
They will not be the NY Jets, they have an actual lock down corner and a better defense. Frankly, the OL is full of veterans and ours has 1, as far as I can see. That line has been together for a few seasons, we should have gotten a line together. Not only does that increase the run, it makes playaction work in other situations than 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1. besides our best lineup was two TE’s and two WR’s, because of the threat of a mediocre run. If that run was more efficient, we could have controlled more clock and won at least 1 more game.
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Maybe you should read before you type
The comparison to the Jets was strictly on the offensive side of the ball, so why mention Revis and their defense?
You proved my point about the Jets by admitting the Jets line has been together for a few seasons, has All-Pro talent, and that team still has a mediocre offense. The offense would have been horrible without Braylon Edwards.
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by youALREADYknow on Jan 26, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Also we couldn't block a 3 or 4 man rush, so NO, our OL didn't improve because of Crabtree's presence.
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That was uncalled for
Don’t insult people.
Not everyone is going to have the same opinion.
I respect rlott’s opinion but that doesn’t mean I have to agree with it (and I’m sure he feels the same way about me).
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
No need to chime in, he isn't even a regular 49er debater
AKA, no respect, back to this Crabtree Oher thing eh??
LOL
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It's been discussed enough....
…for today, at least.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 23, 2010 10:33 PM PST up reply actions
Does it really matter who was drafted/not drafted? If the Niners drafted Oher, their O-Line would have been better, but who does Smith throw the ball too? Vernon Davis by himself would have been the only gifted playmakers in the passing game. Take him away with a double, even triple team and who is left? Morgan? Hill? Gore? Their all average/mediocre recievers at best. Then you’d have to draft Bryant this year which could possibly not happen if another team snaps him up first.
Instead the FO drafted Crabtree, the now true #1 WR plus having Davis you now have a true passing offense. But know they have no true RT, possible LG. Guess what, you draft them this year with both positions being deeper then they where last year. Buluga might be a better pro then Oher, we’ll have to see. But not drafting Oher wasn’t a mistake. No way Oher guarantees a playoff berth either.
The OT position is not deeper this season. Buluga would need an amazing season to turn in a better rookie campaign than Oher. This argument of wait and see if X OT pick can do better is pretty bunk. It’s in the territory of saying X WR will start off better than Randy Moss.
plus 1
Crabtree did nothing to help the running game or passing game. After he got in a few weeks we still could not convert on 3rd down. I honestly believe a good OL would have done a lot more for this team, despite the lack of wideouts. Braylon Edwards is not leagues better than any WR we have. Morgan made plays but was overshadowed by the WR that held out, what’s his name again?
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Morgan? Mister “always one yard short of the first down” Morgan?
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 23, 2010 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah, he made good catches this year.
Of course he was short, with Oher we would have picked up another yard or two on the run plays and hence those Morgan passes being first downs.
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Everyone dropped passes
A better running game would have been good for this young team.
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Can't run
When Chilo is whiffing on blocks 70% of the time.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
No
He was whiffing one on one.
Chilo wasn’t asked to help Snyder all season.
You don’t ask a 2nd year player to do that.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
Sarcasm.............I forgot to type it.
All th emore reason to get another young OT to play there. he will be in his third playing with yet another different RT. Face palm!!
i had to stop
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Rachal gets much grief
when he improved signficantly at the end of the year.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I think for a 2nd round pick
he’s turning out pretty good. Next year will be his coming out year.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
That's what we thought last year.
If he regresses again next season, I’ll be pissed.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 25, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Rachal didn't regress this year
he improved quite a bit from the beginning of the season to the end.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
How do you have a true passing offense with an inaccurate QB and a OL that doesn't provide any protection.
Jets did just fine, just being able to run the ball, play good defenst, and use the playaction to involve their TE. Wait I guess Sir Drop a lot is a true number 1 WR. We have no idea what we have in our WR’s because they didn’t get time to show anything. It always matter who is drafted, just like Balmer over Jackson a few years back. The passing offense would not have been worse, the QB would have had more time, and the running back would have been able to run more effectively, hence making the playaction something to worry about on another down and distance besides 4th and 1.
Oher doesn’t guarantee playoffs? Well Crabtree didn’t help win any games.
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Let me but it this way. Would you rather have Oher or any combination of OT’s this draft,
or,
Crabtree or any combinations of WR’s this draft.
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 23, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions
Oher and any combo of WR's this draft
The OL would have more continuity and the QB would know what it feels like to not constantly be under pressure. Now we have to wait for rookies to adjust.
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Just like if we drafted Oher last year, this year we would have to wait to develop a WR or two.
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 23, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
So technically it doesn’t really matter what course the FO took to drafting OT’s and WR’s.
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 23, 2010 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah it matters, get the OL first, just like the Jets did.
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Morgan and Hill would have had more time to showcase what they had.
We did have to call plays and play field position, because we were incapable of consistent pass blocking.
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No slight to Crabtree, but I’d rather have Oher. If the there was a retrospect draft, Oher would be the #1 pick.
No slight to crabtree at all, and it was a real catch 22, he has a very high ceilingBut, I'd take a player that would improve all the WR's and the QB, and RB.
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I know what your saying lott, but how does Oher make Morgan faster, or help Vernon Davis not drop passess, or even get Jason Hill playing time? Having Oher would have done wonders for the running game, given Smith maybe 1 or 2 more seconds to throw, but who would he being throwing too? We may have to face the fact the Vernon has hands of stone, that Morgan isn’t that fast, or that the coaches seem hell-bent on not playing Hill?
If the team didn’t have Crabs (had to say that) that’s one more defender for Davis because Morgan isn’t much of a threat. Then when there is only one great passing option defences can stack the box.
by Hoopers Judge on Jan 23, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
There is not enough evidence to support Hill not being good enough or Morgan not being fast enough.
He did get open and he did make some plays. He has had the same crappy Ol and QB play as everyone on the offense. He needs to grow as well, and that was hampered yet again. Crabtree missed some catches. Balls tend to come out inaccurate when a Qb can’t get comfortable. Smith made some bad decisions and threw some passes that weren’t open. Better ability to run would have changed the whole philosophy on offense, so no one can say what would have been. But you can say more continuity and production for the O-Line is good for the entire team. Even the defense.
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They stacked the box despite Vernon and Crabs
They only got out of it when the team was in the Raye Gun. Besides, when you can pressure a QB with a 3 man rush on a consitent basis, you can stack the box, only the Te can get behind you.
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This would really blow your mind
Maybe the 49ers never turn to Alex Smith if Oher was plowing running holes consistently for Gore.
I'm glad somebody said it.
SHAUN HILL WAS OUR FUTURE
?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 24, 2010 12:24 AM PST up reply actions
A great match for Alex
He would make Alex look good…half his throws are 2 ft above the receivers head. This guy can go up and get it.
Dez Bryant
If he’s there at #13, then he’s probably the best player available ala Crabtree last year. I’d fully support taking him over the 4th/5th best OT in the draft.
This offense becomes truly frightening for opposing defenses with Davis, Crabtree, Bryant, and Gore.
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I'd rather have Stephen Williams he stands at 6-4 and can jump out of the gym and will make tough catches.
We can also address the REAL need, since we ignored it last year. I don’t care who you have at QB, they need protection.
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"I don't care who you have at QB, they need protection"
Tell it to the Vikes and Tarvaris Jackson.
Rays in '08.... Desmond Jennings - the breakout continues.....
by youALREADYknow on Jan 26, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
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