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Afternoon open thread: Ray Brown hired, stadium proposal on the ballot

We've got plenty of interesting posts up today, but I thought I'd open up one more thread for some specific discussion.  As some of you may have seen, former 49ers offensive lineman Ray Brown was hired today to be the assistant offensive line coach.  Brown spent six years with the 49ers from 1996-2001 and went to the Pro Bowl in 2001 as a guard.  He worked with Bobb McKittrick, who also worked with current OL coach Mike Solari.  Brown was an assistant OL coach with the Bills before their staff was released this year.  I haven't read much about Brown as an assistant, but he obviously brings a wealth of knowledge to the table.

The other point I wanted to mention was that after what seemed like endless discussion, the Santa Clara city council agreed to put the 49ers stadium measure on the June ballot (June 8 I believe).  There had been some opposition that would have preferred to see it on the November ballot, but the supporters won the day.  Whether you're for or against this measure, at least we'll have an answer about the 49ers stadium sooner rather than later.  We'll have much more on this as election day approaches.

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Welcome back Ray

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by 49er16 on Jan 27, 2010 2:11 PM PST reply actions  

Ray?

I think this is a pretty great hire by the 49ers. Has anyone been able to look up his info about how he’s been as an assistant.

by D-9er on Jan 27, 2010 2:18 PM PST reply actions  

he was with the Bills before

They actually had a really good run blocking offensive line. Pass blocking not so much.

Football Outsiders has them at 12th in run blocking, 32nd in pass.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 27, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Bobb McKittrick:

“If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I’d want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I’d want Ray Brown with me.”

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 27, 2010 2:29 PM PST reply actions  

New OL coaches and a new Special Teams coach

I like this “need-first” mentality were taking so far this off season. Maybe that carries over before picking up a few players in FA or the Draft and not filling up roster spots with more Brandon Jones’. I still think Spiller is the choice, if available, at #13 cuz we’d be kicking ourselves if Seattle takes him. and im sure Coach Sing kicks pretty hard.

by LADubbz45 on Jan 27, 2010 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

Things I have been reading from Sing indicates that the big needs are OL and KR/PR

He also said (and no I don’t have a link), that they would have more than one good option for KR/PR in FA, Trade or the Draft.

So I could see them taking Spiller and someone else like Ford later as well as the 1st round OT. I like that they have addressed the problems with the coaches first and think that Ray Brown, especially working under Solari, will be a good addition.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jan 27, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Brandon Jones

I dont understand all the anomosity toward him… He is a young player with alot of upside who suffered the misfortune early on with a shoulder injury.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 27, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Without judging Brandon Jones as a player...

the reference to him as a signing, I would imagine, is more of a shot at healthily-overpaid players who were never higher than third on the depth chart of other teams that were known to have sup-par players at the respective position, and come into camp with a new team and never so much as get consideration for a shot at starting.

Again, nothing personal against Jones – but even dismissing his injury, bringing him in seems like a mistake.

"It came down like a punt, Coach!" - Josh Morgan

by shlecko on Jan 27, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I aint too low on him

he was gellin with A.Smith in OTA’s, then got injured, then Hill starts at QB, and Crabs signing/holdout/automatic starter; thats alot to overcome as a WR that just got signed to a team with, at the time, no clear-cut #1 WR. Unless he Wow’s the coaching staff enough to pose as another threat opposite Crabs or Morgan, he’s gonna be hangin out on the Overlooked bench right next to Nate Davis.

by LADubbz45 on Jan 27, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

haha… forgot to mention running in a Certified Grade-A Jimmy Raye Offense. the fact he managed to even record a catch last year should be puzzling the greatest of scientists everywhere

by LADubbz45 on Jan 27, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Was he allowed to?

I think he was on the field two times this season and he caught the ball once for 18 yards and made a really nice grab on a ball that was thrown way behind him.

The Tim Tebow Story "A Bust In The Making" ...Part 2 Coming After The Draft...Stay Tuned.

by Drew Kerr on Jan 27, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions  

That is a good point.

He may not have been thrown to at all. I’ll review some of the games and see.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 28, 2010 12:58 AM PST up reply actions  

He only took 30 snaps all year on the offense

10 vs St Louis
6 vs Atl
1 vs Ind
2 vs TN
9 vs Seattle
2 vs AZ

But that’s still a rather damning indictment of the coach’s confidence in his ability to be an effective receiver. Jason Hill took almost 6 times the number of snaps that Brandon Jones did.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 28, 2010 1:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Brown learned under Sean Kugler, who I think is a great OL coach. The Bills OL stunk this year but we were starting two rookies and a 2008 seventh round pick. The OL did a great job especially as the year went on. We had a ton of injuries and they patched guys together. I don’t know if I’d hire him a OL coach in his own right yet but as an assistant he’ll be fine.

by MattRichWarren on Jan 27, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

WIN

Its good to have Ray back on the line. He always had fantastic technique

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

lol

That came out wrong.. but its good to have him back associated with our line

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 27, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

it most certainly did

Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.

by FearTheTree on Jan 27, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like the Niners are making all the right moves and FO is taking care of the biggest glaring need which leads me to believe that they will do the same in free agency and the draft…. alot of positive vibes with the offseason moves thus far.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 27, 2010 4:24 PM PST reply actions  

I like that they’re bringing back more and more of the guys from the glory days. It’s an intangible thing, but it would be awesome if they can inspire the players to take on the winning attitude that the older guys had back in the day.

by Mangoman on Jan 27, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the “winning attitude thing” is already there. I think at this point it is more of a fundamental’s type of situation and they are bringing in some “fundamental” assistant coaches.

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 27, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Just a dream, but

Bringing in Ronnie Lott as a secondary “consultant”. . .One can dream right??

by Mangoman on Jan 27, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be sick

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 27, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Perfect mentor

Could you imagine him mentoring Dashon Goldson?? Yikes!

by Mangoman on Jan 27, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL can you say beast?

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 27, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

great players

don’t always great coaches make.

by dutra on Jan 27, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions  

Never know untill you try

49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha

by 49erSalvatrucha on Jan 27, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions  

brandon who

brandon who?still havent seen this dude why would the niners go out and reach for him when he’s on a team that barely throws the ball ,and what does sing have against hill the wide reciever he was good at washingto and was one of the fastest recievers at the combine before we go reach 4 other teams recievers lets deal and see what we got on our roster

by jayjonna415 on Jan 27, 2010 8:03 PM PST reply actions  

Ray Brown coming back?

That’s actually a smart move to bring a coach with prior playing experience.

"Proving 2nd class ownership is profitable"

by More False Hope on Jan 27, 2010 10:21 PM PST reply actions  

Tom Rathman?

Heck, Mike Singletary??

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 27, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

New stadium

If it makes anybody feel better my aunt and uncle leave in Santa Clara and they are going to vote for the stadium to be built

Go 49ers

by iaalexeeff on Jan 27, 2010 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

Both of them?

Yes!

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 27, 2010 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

You can thank them for me.

I plan on volunteering to go door to door for this one. I think SC will be down for this.

In 10 years we may have a high speed train and a new stadium. Hopefully the Raiders will be back in LA.

by goatfather on Jan 28, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

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