Tostitos Fiesta Bowl Gameday Thread
by Drew Kerr on Jan 4, 2010 4:57 PM PST
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PrintThis evening will mark the 39th Annual Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. We're down to the last 4 college bowl games of the year and the Fiesta Bowl seems to have always had a lot of fireworks. Up until a few years ago, the Fiesta Bowl had originally been held at Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, AZ but since has moved to University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, AZ. In 1998, the Fiesta Bowl became part of the Bowl Championship Series (BCS). Before 2007, every four years (most recently in 2003), was the designee for the National Championship.
This evening's game will be between The Boise State Broncos and The TCU Horned Frogs. One of the most memorable moments in Fiesta Bowl History was when senior Ian Johnson scored the game winning touchdown on a Statue of Liberty play against the heavily favored Oklahoma Sooners and then proposed to his cheerleader girlfriend on the sidelines. TCU since 1956 has not been ranked higher than they are currently ranked at # 4 in the Nation. This is considered to be the best team they have had since even before Ladanian Tomlinson's reign at TCU. TCU and Boise State have met two other times in previous bowl games; One was last year in the San Diego Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl which the Horned Frogs won 17-16, and the other was in '03 in TCU's backyard in The Plains Capital Fort Worth Bowl which The Broncos stole 34-31.
Below the jump, we will take a look at some of the key players, their stats throughout the season, and other information regarding tonight's game.
# 6 BOISE STATE BRONCOS VS. # 4 TCU HORNED FROGS
KEY PLAYERS TO WATCH FOR THE HORNED FROGS:
[# 14] Andy Dalton QB
Comp Rate 62.4%, 2484 Yards, 8.9 Yds/Att, 22 TD's -- 107 Rush Attempts, 522 Yards, 3 TD's
[# 24] Joseph Turner RB
140 Attempts, 732 Yards, 5.2 Avg, 11 TD's
[# 29] Matthew Tucker RB
104 Attempts, 667 Yards, 6.4 Avg, 8 TD's
[# 34] Edward Wesley RB
99 Attempts, 630 Yards, 6.4 Avg, 4 TD's
[# 85] Jeremy Kerley WR
38 Catches, 467 Yards, 12.3 Avg, 2 TD's
[# 98] Jerry Hughes DE/ OLB
54 Tackles, 11 Sacks
Career Totals: 138 Tackles,1 Fumble Forced, 28 Sacks, 3 INT's
[# 41] Daryl Washington LB
99 Tackles, 2 Sacks, 3 INT's, 48 Yards, 1 TD
Career Totals: 209 Tackles, 1 Fumble Forced, 4 INT's 45 Yards, 1 TD
[# 3] Tejay Johnson S
51 Tackles, 1 Fumble Forced, 3 INT's, 22 Yards.
Led by Coach: Gary Patterson (8th year, 72 - 27)
TCU's '09 Record and Standings: 1st place in the MWC, (12-0, 8-0)
KEY PLAYERS TO WATCH FOR THE BRONCOS:
[# 11] Kellen Moore QB
Comp Rate 64.8%, 3325 Yards, 8.5 Yds/Att, 39 TD's
[# 27] Jeremy Avery RB
197 Attempts, 1131 Yards, 5.7 Avg, 6 TD's
[# 22] Doug Martin RB
113 Attempts, 723 Yards, 6.4 Avg, 14 TD's
[# 4] Titus Young WR
71 Catches, 969 Yards, 13.6 Avg, 10 TD's
[# 2] Austin Pettis WR
62 Catches, 850 Yards, 13.7 Avg, 14 TD's
[# 36] Aaron Tevis LB
47 Tackles, 1 Sack, 3 INT's, 12 Yards
[# 23] Jeron Johnson S
88 Tackles, 1 Fumble Forced, 4 INT's, 30 Yards
Career Stats: 240 Tackles, 2 Fumbles Forced, 1 Sack, 7 INT's, 30 Yards
[# 1] Kyle Wilson CB
39 Tackles, 3 INT's, 98 Yards
Career Totals: 156 Tackles, 1 Fumble Forced, 1 Sack, 11 INT's, 139 Yards, 2 TD's
[# 13] Brandyn Thompson CB
4 INT's, 16 Yards
Led by Coach: Chris Petersen (4th year, 48 - 4)
Boise State's '09 Record and Standings: 1st place in the WAC, (13-0, 8-0)
WHEN: 8:00 PM ET, 5:00 PM PST
WHERE: UNIVERSITY OF PHOENIX STADIUM, GLENDALE, AZ
TV: FOX
SATELITE: SIRIUS, XM
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That quarterback looks like a girl
He has an arm though
True knowledge is knowing you know nothing!
#42
seems like he may have a monster arm
he looked like he tried to put touch on that deep ball and he out threw his guy by 5 yards
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions
TCU's corners need to keep their coverage about half a second longer
TCU would have 2 sacks if they did.
Gimme 1 round!
Did you just see that horrible chubster in Orange???
I thought they didn’t let beasts like that on TV to bring down your schools rep in recruiting circles
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
The one that was closest to the screen
almost squeezed her out of the picture but there was a little too much to squeeze. Truly horrible.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
Wilson drilled him
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Really?
I just turned the game on right now.
I’m disappointed.
He got pressure by just using the speed rush, but when he engages he can’t get any pressure.
Terrible use of hands.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
He's regarded as a possible first round prospect.
A first round prospect has to play better than that.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
He is being used as a spy alot
He has only been turned loose on a speed rush a couple times.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know about that
He tried the bull rush a while back ago and was ineffective
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
Did you see that?
Only gets pressure when he uses the speed rush
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
He's not going to get pressure by trying to outrun OTs in the NFL on every play.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
See above
He has alot of moves but he has to keep his outside contain for those reverses. He bust the last one up.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
I'm mostly trying to watch him in obvious passing situations
And he can’t get pressure with his hands
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
How many OLB's can get pressure against tackles with a bullrush?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen Parys Haralson do it a few times against Arizona
The PIT OLBs are powerful guys too.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions
Actually got Hughes measurements wrong
6’3 257
Harelson is 6’0" 255. He’s a stout bastard. I don’t think he has the football instinct or natural abilities that Hughes has though. Remember this. Hughes has only played D-line for 4 years. He was a running back in high school. So that is probably a big part of his instinct for sniffing out screens and swing passes as he’s been doing today. He has all the time in the world to match his athletic talents to OLB.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions
See my post below
I included a link to a video
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions
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IFFFFF the niners had him, they would only need him for his speed anyway…we don’t need him for strength…the niners need a speed pass rusher that can come in from the outside while patrick clogs up the middle, he wouldn’t be a DE in the pros in my opinion
Ahmad Brooks
Has more speed and athleticism than Hughes.
You’re also forgetting the fact that teams can run on the outside and throw screens (the plays that shredded us all year).
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 5, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
He's also playing against a backup tackle
the starting tackle broke his ankle a couple of weeks ago.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Well to be fair
He’s been on like 5 speed rushes and beaten him on 3 of them. They are using him very conservatively because of the run threat.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions
No pressure by Hughes on that play
Tried the bull rush right there but he couldn’t get much of a push
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
He's slow in run support too
He’s got to go after the ball.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
It's all outside rush and nothing inside
" Up against the wall Scott, you to Mike, I love you alot but you're here"
rlott#42: Scott the fifth pick is here and Berry is on the board, you need to get a deal done!
Scott: "Now wait a minute you mean to tell me this is about our current draft and not the past ones? Whew, thought I was a goner, I'll dial up and get him."
Mike: You'll do wha? Listen here young man"
rlott#42: It's rlott#42 Mike call me Furious
Mike: Well Mr. Furious, there are some things here that need to get done for this football team, and this is not part of the plan.
rlott#42: I'm gonna make this simple Mike, make the move or Scott gets it in the head, this is also for the team, Berry in sappy seahawks green, nah not gonna happen, the best two prospects go to our division? Not on my watch"
Scott: Leave it alone Mike, I got this like last years draft, just trust me
Mike: Here we go again
rlott#42: ROTFL
rlott#42: I'll be back next year before you trade the future for Locker
Scott: (to Mike) Who has he been talking to?
Mike: Shutup Scott this is two drafts in a row, I don't get what is neccessary
Scott: We have another 1st rounder
Mike: Oh, I see what he is doing, ok top 5 defense next year, ok Furious, do what you do
No pressure on that previous play either
He seems weak.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
He gets outside pressure but appears to have stamina issues
" Up against the wall Scott, you to Mike, I love you alot but you're here"
rlott#42: Scott the fifth pick is here and Berry is on the board, you need to get a deal done!
Scott: "Now wait a minute you mean to tell me this is about our current draft and not the past ones? Whew, thought I was a goner, I'll dial up and get him."
Mike: You'll do wha? Listen here young man"
rlott#42: It's rlott#42 Mike call me Furious
Mike: Well Mr. Furious, there are some things here that need to get done for this football team, and this is not part of the plan.
rlott#42: I'm gonna make this simple Mike, make the move or Scott gets it in the head, this is also for the team, Berry in sappy seahawks green, nah not gonna happen, the best two prospects go to our division? Not on my watch"
Scott: Leave it alone Mike, I got this like last years draft, just trust me
Mike: Here we go again
rlott#42: ROTFL
rlott#42: I'll be back next year before you trade the future for Locker
Scott: (to Mike) Who has he been talking to?
Mike: Shutup Scott this is two drafts in a row, I don't get what is neccessary
Scott: We have another 1st rounder
Mike: Oh, I see what he is doing, ok top 5 defense next year, ok Furious, do what you do
Good to know you're seeing that too.
I was really high on him before this game.
I expected more.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
do you think he is winded?
" Up against the wall Scott, you to Mike, I love you alot but you're here"
rlott#42: Scott the fifth pick is here and Berry is on the board, you need to get a deal done!
Scott: "Now wait a minute you mean to tell me this is about our current draft and not the past ones? Whew, thought I was a goner, I'll dial up and get him."
Mike: You'll do wha? Listen here young man"
rlott#42: It's rlott#42 Mike call me Furious
Mike: Well Mr. Furious, there are some things here that need to get done for this football team, and this is not part of the plan.
rlott#42: I'm gonna make this simple Mike, make the move or Scott gets it in the head, this is also for the team, Berry in sappy seahawks green, nah not gonna happen, the best two prospects go to our division? Not on my watch"
Scott: Leave it alone Mike, I got this like last years draft, just trust me
Mike: Here we go again
rlott#42: ROTFL
rlott#42: I'll be back next year before you trade the future for Locker
Scott: (to Mike) Who has he been talking to?
Mike: Shutup Scott this is two drafts in a row, I don't get what is neccessary
Scott: We have another 1st rounder
Mike: Oh, I see what he is doing, ok top 5 defense next year, ok Furious, do what you do
No idea.
Lets see how he looks the next time he’s on the field.
I just turned the game on a few minutes ago.
Has he been like this all game?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
I am not sure that speed will work in and of itself in the NFL. He’s gonna need to develop some moves. And he does seem to have a bit of a wind issue
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
He is drawing alot of double teams so far though. That would wer anyones motor down a bit
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I haven't seen too many double teams
He got dominated one on one on the last series
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
As I said
He’s been spying alot. As seen by completely pulling off his pass rush and jumping into the passing lane
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
But when he does pass rush
he only uses the speed rush.
He tried the bull rush earlier but got dominated
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:46 PM PST up reply actions
Well he's an OLB
Not a true DE. He’s 6’2 250. His bull rush isn’t going to be his best weapon
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to see a pass rush move
Haven’t seen him attempt any so far.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen him use the spin, rip and the Reggie White club before
haven’t actually seen his swim move. its just the gameplan they are playing right now where he has to keep his outside contain unless the D-co turns him loose
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
I'll keep watching
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
He’s gotten doubled a few times
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I don't see him as a first rounder
" Up against the wall Scott, you to Mike, I love you alot but you're here"
rlott#42: Scott the fifth pick is here and Berry is on the board, you need to get a deal done!
Scott: "Now wait a minute you mean to tell me this is about our current draft and not the past ones? Whew, thought I was a goner, I'll dial up and get him."
Mike: You'll do wha? Listen here young man"
rlott#42: It's rlott#42 Mike call me Furious
Mike: Well Mr. Furious, there are some things here that need to get done for this football team, and this is not part of the plan.
rlott#42: I'm gonna make this simple Mike, make the move or Scott gets it in the head, this is also for the team, Berry in sappy seahawks green, nah not gonna happen, the best two prospects go to our division? Not on my watch"
Scott: Leave it alone Mike, I got this like last years draft, just trust me
Mike: Here we go again
rlott#42: ROTFL
rlott#42: I'll be back next year before you trade the future for Locker
Scott: (to Mike) Who has he been talking to?
Mike: Shutup Scott this is two drafts in a row, I don't get what is neccessary
Scott: We have another 1st rounder
Mike: Oh, I see what he is doing, ok top 5 defense next year, ok Furious, do what you do
Stamina issue might be legit
he has moves but has to keep contain and has been used as a spy alot so hasn’t been able to really pass rush
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
How about Kyle Wilson?
He seems to be doing pretty good.
He’s got the same size as Joe Haden but he doesn’t look like he’s as good in press coverage.
Is he faster?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
About the same in speed
He returns kicks too
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Possibly a 2nd rounder?
I’d say it depends on his 40 speed
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, alot will depend on the combine but I’d say thats probably about right. 2nd-3rd
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
I see he is compared to Dre Bly
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions
Daryl Washington
He is going to be a good mid round MLB pick for someone
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
That was Offensive PI
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Jerry Hughes again on that last play
Only using the speed rush
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Nice play there
Playing contain
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
He's been doing that alot
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
I’m mostly paying attention to plays where he actually rushes the passer.
He can read the QB quite well though.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:48 PM PST up reply actions
Hence why I think he'll transition over to 3-4 OLB
(Which is the only position he can play in the NFL) quite well. He’s pulled out of his rush to shut down a swing pass when he was the only man to beat once, (Boise’s QB turned and scrambled away and made a play anyways but Hughes made the right play), stuffed a reverse that he read very well and been in the passing lane alot. Good reads.
His weakness is run stuffing as a lineman (He’s 250 lbs). This is the first time i’ve seen the stamina issue. He could also be sick or any number of things. Possibly an early adrenaline dump because he was winded by the 6th play of the game it seemed. We’ll see in the 2nd half.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Nice coverage by Wilson there
Good to know he can play the slot too
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
TCU’s offense is stuck in neutral
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Not anymore
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe that's what they need to do
just keep stretching the field
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Thompson got smoked on that one
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Yep
He’s a junior right?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions
Good to see Eddie George broadcasting now
Was always one of the most well spoken guys in the league. Very intelligent guy.
Gimme 1 round!
kinda surprised he didn't go into coaching
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 6:58 PM PST up reply actions
Jerry Hughes video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITRNdQKO5Eg
My thoughts:
Not a good fit in SF.
He’s worse than Parys Haralson in run support and his biggest strength is his speed off the edge.
We already have the same guy in Ahmad Brooks, the difference is that Ahmad is much more athletic and has already proven himself at the NFL level.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
Do the niners really need another guy that rushes the football? wouldn’t hurt, but doesnt make much sense
We can never have enough pass rushers
Mike Singletary has said this a lot of times.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
Kyle Wilson (CB) from boise state has also been playing very well
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
see, that’s where i’d want to have a CB… and yea this isn’t the place to discuss the draft… but yea, i’m a fan of Haden…
Kyle Wilson = Joe Haden - press coverage
I’d say he’s worth a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen a lot of Haden
I’ll admit I haven’t seen too much of Wilson, but he has the same measurables as Haden and plays like him.
The biggest difference is that Wilson doesn’t play too much press coverage.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
I seriously doubt he has the same measurables
Haden has linebacker level upper body strength
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
Same size
Haden is a little bigger but they seem to have the same speed too.
I don’t think Wilson is better but he is more easily attainable.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
At the high school combine
(They push 185lbs) He put it up 40 times. That was in high school
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yah it outright shocked me
That was basically his body weight in high school. I bet at the combine he does over 30 reps of 225 which will put him at or near the top of the linebacker class.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
YEa, but physicality can only get you so far… he’s got speed and he’s got some good press coverage… i think that’s something the niners need… is Brown better?
Brown is faster
The thing about Haden is that he can’t hold his coverage for too long.
That’s why he presses.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well Florida has a pretty good passrush
But whenever Haden had to cover for a long time he would get burned.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Well I'm talking like 4 or so seconds
He can’t hold his coverage long enough some times.
Obviously all CBs will struggle if they have to cover for 8 seconds but Haden has more trouble than others
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Haden will run a low 4.4
possibly a high 4.3
He ran like a 4.43 at that high school combine
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
Brown ran like a 4.32
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
I think Brown is better than Haden but I know half of everyone hear will disagree. But the argument is still in my favor because we don’t know what Haden can or cannot do at the next level yet
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
If Brown can get better at press coverage...
He’ll be amazing.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions
"F"isicality
He gives guys too much of a cushion.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
He's made some nice moves on the ball though
He totally stepped in front of that pass Warner threw on the Monday night game and stole it from Boldin
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Yep
He can be a very good CB if he continues to “work his tail off”
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:44 PM PST up reply actions
5-10 ish
Wilson is also 5-10 but is soft compared to Haden.
The biggest reason Haden plays so much press coverage, though, is because he can’t read WRs and can’t hold his coverage for too long.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions
well, i know this has nothing to do with anything, but Haden used to be a QB in high school, correct me if i’m wrong
good to know
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
I'd like to know if Balmer can get more of a push than Sopoaga.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
I haven’t seen Balmer play too much.
But I know that Sopoaga can never get a push.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions
Derrick Morgan?
I’m thinking the Seahawks will target him.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know about that
I guess it will depend on what happens before SEA picks.
I do know that SEA desperately needs a DE.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
And an OT, DE, S, WR, RB
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Orton and Campbell may also be available.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldn’t be a bad pick up, plus with Holmgren there in Cleveland… i dont know if he could even fix that franchise
Luke Skywalker
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
We still don't know what Holmgren wants to do in CLE
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
That would be a bad deal for the Hawks but good for the Niners
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
Call me crazy...
But I think Quinn could have success if anyone actually spent the time to develop him and gave him a couple of WR’s to throw to. Mangini has done absolutely nothing to develop his QB’s and has spent the better part of the year pulling a Mike Nolan and berating them.
Agreed
All these young QBs are thrown under the bus these days. Bad coaching and management.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions
Quinn
I don’t believe in him and I don’t think he can be successful in CLE.
He is horribly inaccurate on throws over 10 yards.
I don’t see how he can play QB in the NFL at a high level.
Maybe if he moved to a team that plays in a dome….
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
Waht is the matter with McDonald…he’s been an animal on 3rd’s
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At DT
He’s terrible at run-stopping though.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
He was talking strictly 3rd down though…and he usually is only in there on passing situations. He also has been a mad man on blocking kicks
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Well he was saying he wanted another nickel DE
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:34 PM PST up reply actions
Like Justin Smith?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't mind a CB in the 2nd
Especially if the OL needs have been addressed
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
What is considered enough? You cannot have a full roster of OLB’s and DE’s. I would say 4 OLB’s is plenty. Especially when Manusky likes to mix up the blitz packages the way he does
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Obviously Mike Singletary isn't saying he wants 53 pass rushers
But currently we only have 3 “proven” pass rushers.
I’d love to have a Demarcus Ware that can dominate on every down.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
Absolutely with you on that. He had a semi-bad year ans still managed like 11.5 Sacks or something like that. He also had 5 Forced Fumbles and 6 Pass deflections.
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Of course
Pass rushers like Demarcus Ware aren’t exactly easy to get….
We can wish though right?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
I have him going 16th overall to the Titans in the User Mock Post that smileyman and I put together
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I'll stay away from projections for now
I’m just watching prospects and seeing whether or not they would be good fits here.
I also want to see if they’re McCloughan type of guys.
Neither Hughes nor Wilson (the two guys I’m watching today) seem like McCloughan guys.
But I could actually see Kyle Wilson playing well in Manusky’s defense.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
What defines a McCloughan guy? I’m not knocking that, I’m genuinely curious. Just want to know what he typically goes for.
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From what I've taken from his quotes and the guys he's drafted...
He likes size (likes big CBs, WRs, and heavy OL) . He likes playmakers (Crabtree). He values production a little bit over potential(Crabtree, Coffee). He also seems to like guys that can block kicks.
He likes SEC guys a little more than other though.
He’s somewhat of a BPA guy too.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions
But how much of a backseat you think he'll take
now with Singeltary in his 2nd year and York being a young guy easily influenced. Sing may just bulldog them both.
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No idea.
I have no inside info.
We do know that Singletary kind of called out McCloughan for not getting him an OT last offseason though.
He also said he wants a return guy.
Other than that we don’t know what else Singletary is demanding.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions
Thats cool
we will be doing 3 total anyway. One now pre Superbowl, one post Superbowl, and one after the combine the day before the draft. Feel free to give your thoughts on any of them
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Will do
I’d like to put one together sometime before the draft.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
Do we really need another guy that is good against the run
or would it be better to have a guy that has averaged 53 tackles (from the DE position) and 13 sacks over the last 2 years? (And last year had 2 picks 1 for a TD)
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions
On the outside?
Yes.
Only Manny Lawson can stop outside runs.
I’d also like guys that can stop screen passes.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions
Screen Passes Hughes is great against
Outside runs he can make plays. Its inside runs he gets mauled on.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions
He can't get off blocks
He’ll make the reads and identify outside runs, reverses, screens, etc. but I don’t know if he’ll be able to get off blocks and make the play.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
This is legitimate
Though that was really present in the BYU game you posted but in the Utah game he did pretty well.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions
I'm going off the BYU game and this game today.
I do love his recognition skills.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions
Hughes with the strip and recovery
Big play
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
Good to see him make a play.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions
Man that kid Washington is making a case to be a 2nd round pick
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I've read several places 3rd edging in on 2nd
If somebody falls in love
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions
Fun fact...
I had junior and senior English with the TCU kicker, Kevin Sharples. It’s sorta bizarre seeing someone from our absolutely miserable high school football team on national TV.
Kickers don't actually play football so he wasn't really on the team
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't know...
I swam and debated. I just know he was the best part of the offense. Hell, the only part of the offense.
Nice pass
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That pass...
in the first half when Moore was getting chased out of the pocket and then threw that 20 yard rocket to Young was also really impressive.
Thompson got juked out of his cleats on that one
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Too soft.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, they need to stick with those short passes. The screens are wroking right now
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Because the BSU pressure...
Isn’t getting to the QB quickly enough. A well timed blitz usually cures the screen pass ails.
Gotta fake like you're gonna pass...
If you’re gonna try to run a designed draw. Otherwise nobody is gonna back up
Gimme 1 round!
That was like watching...
JaMarcus Russell try to play action pass. He doesn’t know that you are supposed to fake the handoff or else the defense won’t bite.
He just sort of flicks his hand in that direction. I laugh anytime they try to do that with Russell, it just gives the defense and extra second to get to him …haha
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Which is what happened...
this past Sunday. I know people like to give Alex Smith crap, but he can really sell the fake on the wildcat and the play action. You know, when Jimmy Raye gets creative enough to call the play action.
Yes Alex is very good on PA
And then the touch he puts on the throw which goes back across the grain is very nice too. He just needs some consistency which will come (IMO) with confidence in his line
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Fun Fact
TCU has produced 3 legends of the game:
Bob Lilly
Sammy Baugh
LT
And college legend Davey O’Brien
Gimme 1 round!
I like how they stopped showing the Boise girls
and we get a shot of the gorgeous TCU cheerleaders every 30 seconds now
Gimme 1 round!
Seriously...
Is the coverage getting much better downfield, or is BSU just calling lots of screens behind the line to annoy me?
wow... didn't mean to do that
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Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
He has some nasty moves
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Kyle Wilson should have been called for illegal contact.
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He doesn't suck
But he pushed one of the WRs (not the one who the ball was thrown to) when they were 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Good to know you're being sarcastic
But Kyle Wilson was never regarded as a 1st round prospect.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well I do care because I don't want to get my expectations up for certain players.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hughes
before people get super excited about his play today remember that he’s playing against a backup tackle today.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I'm not excited at all
Very disappointed that he wont be a good fit in SF
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
good thing...
Good thing we aren’t fans of the Raiders… He apparently runs a 4.5 40… Al Davis will be all over that…
Not fast enough...
Has to run under a 4.3 in the 40 to get Al Davis interested. If you run the fastest 40, Al Davis abandons all common sense and drafts you, instead of someone named Michael Crabtree.
LOL
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
Al Davis will be interested
Hughes is a big guy with a lot of speed for his size.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Again keep watching.
He’s playing a spy not rushing the passer
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that ridiculously low sack stat
might be a part of the reason they aren’t just turning him loose
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Did you see that run play?
Jerry Hughes put on the speed and the RB just went right past him.
TCU doesn’t want to give up too much on the ground.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
We need Sing to go out and steal BSU's offensive line coach
only five sacks all season and none today, and that’s with a backup tackle.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I'm not impressed by that backup OT though.
He’s slow.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
He's still kept Hughes without a sack
and Hughes had 11 sacks coming into this game.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
Hughes isn't pass rushing too much
When he does, he just uses the speed rush and runs right by that OT.
His use of hands and strength is pretty good though, or maybe Hughes is just weak at the point of attack.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Does need to work on his point of attack a little
I don’t deny Hughes weak points… This game plan isn’t really showing off his strong points thought. They are using him more like a linebacker than a DE
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
But don’t you remember Aaron Maybin?
He was somewhat of a weak guy that was very fast and used his speed to get pressure.
I don’t even think he’s seen the field in BUF.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
And the Bills are retarded
Because they are trying to play Maybin at DL instead of linebacker. Hughes and Maybin are both pro OLBs
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
Well I agree that the Bills are retarded
But they took Maybin over Orakpo.
Orakpo has owned over in WAS….
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I would have fallen in love with Orakpo
he is a monster and always was at Texas… Not a 1 season wonder like Maybin
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
He was also much more talented than Maybin
Stronger, quicker at changing directions, good tackler.
Very fundamentally sound.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions
Also
Maybin is 6’4" 250 and ran a 4.88 and did 22 reps in the BP… Those aren’t great measurables. I’m amazed he went in the 1st
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm just saying that they have the same playing style.
Both have the same weakness.
I’ll admit that Hughes is much faster.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
With all of you guys here paying attention
What are your assessments of Dan Lefeavor?
Guy puts up crazy numbers and seems to simply be a great football player. But for anyone who has watched him; have you noticed a weak arm?
Dan isn't playing today.....
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions
I haven't seen him play
I don’t care much for Central Michigan.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't mean I'll watch more Central Michigan games.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
I could (online streams FTW)
But I’m not going to spend time watching them play when I can watch bigger games with more talent.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well I don't know
But what I’m saying is that I’d rather watch a game between two teams that have like 8 or so NFL ready prospects in between the two.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I'll never know
I think I’ve heard some people talk about him.
Keep asking around.
Maybe someone has seen him play.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
We'll probably see LeFevour
in the Senior Bowl so we’ll know then
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
True
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
If LeFevour
kills it in the Senior Bowl and he’s still around in the 4th round (which I doubt) we go ahead and pick him up
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
In the 4th round
LeFevour is BPA
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
We shall see.
Pat White rocketed to the 2nd round with his play at the senior bowl.
Of course I have no idea how LeFevour plays so I don’t even know what to expect.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Pat White?
Eh, I think he was overdrafted.
He hasn’t had too much of an impact in MIA.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
This is just based off of watching him play in west virginia, where he just made things happen, he made a ton of plays… But the question is, was that Steve Slaton doing that or was it Pat White
Pat White played well after Slaton left.
But he’s been underwhelming in MIA.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Concussion right?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
I'll take QB's late in the draft...
Who did well in real conferences like Zac Robinson and Sean Canfield.
Zac Robinson sucks
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
If by steal
You mean that he would be stealing money from the 49ers, then yes.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
He's overrated
He’s inaccurate, he folds under pressure, and he just looks confused out there.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't know....
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
When is the senior bowl again?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
thanks
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
Are you basing that...
off of the Cotton Bowl game? I’ve seen him play 15+ games over the past 3 years, and I’ve never had that impression of him. He’s mobile, got a great arm and singlehandedly carried his offense this year.
The cotton bowl, the season opener, and a few games last year
I do know that he’s mobile and has a strong arm.
But when things get out of hand he just seems to break down.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Well he is in NY now, so ya never know…Where do you think they got the play name “Bootleg” from?
Btw its Alphonse Gabriel…how does Al Capone come out of that name?
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maybe
or maybe its just that he puts up great numbers and has great size and despite the fact that he’s bound to be a late rounder?
and Thompson redeems himself
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But seriously...
Overall, I think Thompson has had a pretty darn good game. Think he’ll have success on at the next level or is he just catching poorly thrown balls?
Somewhat
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
I think they have a player who’s name is Texas Christian
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The Moore brothers remind me of Mario and Luigi for some reason
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fake punt
i knew it was gonna happen sooner or later
It's Boise
you know they’re going to throw a trick play at you at least once.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
There will be another waiting in the wings if they need it
if not 2
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:21 PM PST up reply actions
I would not be surprised to see an onside kick right here
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
It would have gotten me
I didn’t even think about it
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:31 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder if Andy Lee can pass?
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But can they punt? ...that is the question
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yeah but seriously
MRob has never thrown a pass with the 49ers???
even in the age of the Wildcat
what is up with that\this?
Then the Wildcat should be up his alley...
Considering it’s nothing more than a modified version of the old 1930’s wing offenses that haven’t been used since Truman was president.
Mike Nolan
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
Mike Nolan, Hostler, Raye,
the dude was a QB on the #2 team in the Nation – you’d think he’d get at least 1 pass, especially given that he’s not much of a runner?
He's a great ST player though.
Wasn’t he a WR before he played QB?
I do know that Raye wants to use him as a hybrid FB
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions
He is a great ST player
I feel a great all around player.
I don’t know if he was ever designated WR, but he can certainly catch.
I did notice Raye using him later in the season
I hope the offseason will provide more opportunities because with all of the other threats he’d be a great guy on 3rd downs.
He has to stay healthy though
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
Boise is giving their QB all day long on this dirve.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
why didn't we run any of those this year?
we had enough opportunities, so many the defense could not have predicted it
2 parts greese
1 part cut Dreadlocks. By the way did anyone read that VD was going to donate his hair to charity? Someone needs to tell him that locks of love does not accept dreadlocks, although I see the confusion.
Where has Hughes been in the 2nd half?
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I know he's getting eaten up by blocks on running plays
He got double teamed just right now
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions
Lookie...
It’s the whole slot receiver keep someone shallow concept. Is Jimmy Raye watching? That’s the importance of having a shorter route on 3rd and 4th downs… You know because a first down gives you another set of downs?
exactly…someone get on the phone and wake Raye up
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He may be watching
I know he said that he has a huge HDTV
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions
Haha,I remember that…. he’s probably watching the game in 3-D with those red and blue glasses sipping on some Jack
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lol
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
He knew Jack's dad.
They call their best player "Kung Fu Panda" and they complain that people aren’t taking them or the game seriously enough? -Nick
Trying to simulate JerryWorld
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Speaking of which...
They need to fix the video screen and the toilets at the Stick. And the water fountains, those need fixing too.
They’re moving in a couple years anyhow. The Yorks won’t spend the cashola on that
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It's the City of San Francisco's stadium...
I hope they take the money from the naming rights to get that fixed.
Raye is here with me
I monitor preservation chambers as a second job. My first job of course is being an Alex Smith apologist.
Was that Arnaz Battle fielding that punt?
Looked familiar
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The question is, do you go for 2 if you score? or go in to OT?
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OT
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
In the pros...
You might go for two. In college, go for the tie and take it to overtime. At least you know you’ll have a shot at it no matter what happens.
TCU needs to take a page out of Boise's book
and fake the spike next time then go up top
Gimme 1 round!
Bad call
IMO
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
On TV
FOX
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
regular TV
Antenna
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Better than Cable
They’re trying to take network channels off the basic package
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Are you one of the poor guys that had FOX taken out of the basic cable package?
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
One of them is crying
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Tebow is waiting to console all of them with God's love
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Hunter Lawrence would help them...
But he’s still getting laid after kicking that field goal against Nebraska.
Sure lets all fly to Arizona
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
I let him borrow it… it’s frikin hot here
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Matt Leinart only knows how to pick up guys
Not that there’s anything wrong with that.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
O/T...
Someone is going to have to address the homophobia in the sports world, especially in football.
I wonder how many people, who would have been great coaches or great players, haven’t stayed in football or didn’t join up in the first place because of the institutionalized homophobia. It’s a loss for all involved.
It's the same thing that keeps women out of officiating
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
I said there wasn't anything wrong with that.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Orange Bowl Thread tomorrow for those interested
Georgia Tech vs Iowa
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I'll be here
Bryan Bulaga and Derrick Morgan
Oh yeah.
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by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'll be interested to see how Bulaga does...
When the Kleig lights of the national stage shine upon his performance.
Will Bulaga be against Morgan?
Or is Morgan weakside?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Don't know
I’d like to see them matched up against each other.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
I guess GT won the Big East
Last I saw them was getting smacked by Miami while sitting in the bar at Vegas.
Ah, you had to bring it up
I feel so pissed every time I see Shonn Greene.
He would have been a perfect fit here.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah dude
He had to be on our draft board. Too bad the Jets traded up to get him.
Greene scorched my nittany lions for days.
Penn State had a better RB two years ago
unfortunately he was a SPED. literally in special education. His name was Austin Scott
Royster is a good fit for the pros
Very patient and a strong runner, although I don’t think he has the speed to hit the holes.
I'm surprised a pro team doesn't throw an obscene amount of money at Chris Peterson
The guy had his guys ready to PLAY
Gimme 1 round!
He loves coaching college and loves coaching Boise in particular.
I seem to remember him getting offers and saying that he’s committed to his guys.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.
If there was, that chick thats announcing them ate it already
Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?
LMAO
I was just thinking that.
She sounds really uninterested.
Maybe she’s a TCU fan.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
I just took a crap
bigger than than golden football, and it was golden too. Because I drink goldshlager
Jets have been handling there biz on drafts lately
by Static Shock 1987 on Jan 4, 2010 8:59 PM PST reply actions
Sanchez may be decent
The logic of my argument is he was a better QB than Booty at USC.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Do not take his name in vain
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
Oh P.Willis
I can’t believe anybody even thought about that. I’m an SC fan and I would tell everybody that would listen he was horrible.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Jan 4, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
It remains a mistery to me
that people forget about the talent diparity in college football, and how easily an average QB playing with elite talent can be mistaken for an NFL QB
It was in last nights' SNF thread.
It may still be on the front page.
I argued that Mark Sanchez has potential but still hasn’t proven anything.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
I'll have to take a look at that.
When I actually think about questioning whether or not Sanchez has potential.
LOL
I would have liked for you to take part in that argument.
Drummer kept glorifying Mark Sanchez and refused to admit that he wasn’t really that good.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
He's a rookie what do you want from him?
by Static Shock 1987 on Jan 4, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions
Reply fail?
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Good for you
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 4, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Jerry hughes jerry hughes jerry hughes!!
Liked what i saw out of this guy….lets turn him into a hybrid LB/DE in as a pass rusher with some speed off the edge!!! Take him with our second first round pick, maybe even first depending on how his stock jumps or drops. if he’s sloted for late first round lets trade back and get another first rounder next year???? just one idea
Didn't you follow any of the conversations?
He doesn’t seem like such a good fit in SF.
He is pretty much the same as Ahmad Brooks.
I’d like a guy that compares to Manny Lawson, but actually has pass rush moves.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Jan 5, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions
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