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Nate Clements at SS?

Matt Miacco's article on the 49er's free agents mentioned that they were more interested in keeping Dre Bly than Walt Harris or Nate Clements and that if the 49ers do keep Clements they would want him to take a pay cut.  Clements has been one of my favorite 49ers the last few years, I love the way he attacks the offense and I think his coverage is under-rated.  He's been in man coverage with the other teams top receiver most of the time he's been on the field for the 49ers and while he has been posterized a few times (most notably by Randy Moss), for the most part he's won his battles.  He really excels against big physical receivers, but seems to have problems against receivers with elite speed.  With his size, speed and skill set I think he would excel as a strong safety.  At six feet, 205 he's a little on the small side to play SS, but he's shown that he can tackle anybody and I don't see him having a problem covering tight ends.  Michael Lewis is a such a liability in coverage that Clements would be a huge upgrade at that position and even though I like the tackles for loss in the run game that Lewis provides, I think Clements is a better open field tackler.   Even if the 49ers lose Walt Harris they would still have three CBs that are capable starters in Shawnte Spencer, Dre Bly and Terrel Brown.  I could see a starting secondary of Spencer and Brown at corners, Clements at SS, Goldson at FS and Bly as a nickle corner as one of the best in the league.  Bly at Nickle isn't a knock on his skills, I just think he really excels there because he can freelance more.  I see him as more of a gambler and play maker than Brown.    

All of this would of course be contingent on Clements and the 49ers coming to terms on his contract, but going into an uncapped year if the 49ers let a talent like Clements walk over money it will say a lot about the ownerships commitment to winning.

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Sadly I dont think its gonna happen

and if they did move him, they would probably move him to FS to take advantage of his coverage skills, and move Goldson to SS because of the way he hits and likes coming up and supporting the run.

"God tells me he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."-Braveheart

by Camraman926 on Jan 8, 2010 7:40 AM PST reply actions  

Singletary has explicitly stated that he wants Clements as a cornerback.

Also, where’s the link to the Maiocco article you cite? I know that Kevin Lynch has made the point about the Niners retaining Bly rather than Clements, but that struck me as pretty odd, given that Clements is under contract and Bly is not.

Regardless, it’s pretty clear that the Niners need to restock the secondary. I’d be shocked if Walt Harris (remember him?) could come back from an ACL injury as well as Spencer did.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 8, 2010 8:58 AM PST reply actions  

I think Clements would take the pay cut, simply because he isn't gonna get that type of money elsewhere after finishing the season on IR.

Unless of course the Rams want him. I don’t see how he was posterized by Moss, the Saety whiffed on coverage (Walt Harris was there) We need a guy with more range at FS and Goldson at SS. I know he has missed tackles but who on the defense didn’t. Willis even missed some.

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by rlott#42 on Jan 8, 2010 9:29 AM PST reply actions  

Clarification

You say:

Matt Miacco’s article on the 49er’s free agents mentioned that they were more interested in keeping Dre Bly than Walt Harris or Nate Clements and that if the 49ers do keep Clements they would want him to take a pay cut.

Are you talking about this article? If so, he doesn’t say the 49ers are more interested in keeping Bly. All he says about Bly is that he’s an URFA with an uncertain future.

by David Fucillo on Jan 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST reply actions  

I think he’s actually referring to this article.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 8, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Clements

can’t be paid his salary as a safety…it’s just too high. Plus he is a prideful guy who still thinks of himself as an elite cover corner in the league. We could all be wrong but early indications are that we need him as a corner at least until either Brown or someone new is ready to start.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 8, 2010 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

I can’t stand reading Matt Maiocco. His articles irritate me….can’t pinpoint exactly what it is but they are just annoying

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

That was not supposed to be a reply

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

His Twitter feed is much better

then you only have to deal with him in 140 characters or less.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 8, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I look at Matt Maiocco and Matt Barrows as the Newpaper/website version of two of my favorite writers

Those two are Drew K and Smileyman.
I am NOT going to tell you which of these two match up with which Matt but I do like them all. They give me different views and opinions and I like that.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Jan 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

funny thing is

they both write about the same things half the time. well known that they all (local writers) hang out in the media trailer working on their stuff. Maiocco is a little more active on Twitter and all I care about is the latest info. I don’t need as much of the rest…so I don’t read it all.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 8, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

That's me too

I have the twitter stuff and that’s it. Still haven’t gotten an answer about the London games revenue situation though.

Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will get picked in the first round.

by smileyman on Jan 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

How dare you

Maiocco is awesome

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 8, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I like him

he answers a lot of my tweets too, then again, Barrows does an OK job of that too…

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 8, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

But Barrows is more of a "fan"

Maiocco seems more unbiased.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Jan 8, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah right

Tim Tebow = 1,432,219 season tickets next year. Who wouldn't pick him in the 1st round with those projections?

by Drew Kerr on Jan 9, 2010 1:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I find Maiocco to be excellent.

I don't know about that, to the groin.

by howtheyscored on Jan 8, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Both Barrows and Maiocco are great. If you go to other newspaper sites and read beat writers that cover other teams, they stack up very well.

by illini49er on Jan 8, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

I think Maiocco tends to come up with more interesting angles on common questions; Barrows seems more immediately related to the fans. Different strengths and weaknesses. I’m glad we have them both.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 8, 2010 6:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Barrows is hilarious at times though

I like that he can bring some of the fan angles to it and be off-the-wall.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 9, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Hope we do keep walt harris

49ers are the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be

by swagger on Jan 8, 2010 12:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I hope he comes to camp

and competes. We need the best CB’s we can get. Heck, if we have 8 of them competing that’s fine. He’s so smart, so is Spencer too.

We definitely need to get younger at the position though. They have to bring some young stud in. Besides, you never know if Bly is coming back and Harris could come to camp like Marvel Smith did then decide to hang it up before the season starts.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 8, 2010 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't be apoplectic if the team brought back the CB corps of...

Clements, T. Brown, Bly, Spencer, and Harris. Now, I’m not sure who’d be the #1, and 4 of those guys are over 30 next year, so it’s probably good to start looking to restock.

Jason Hill is turning the corner!

by grantmp on Jan 8, 2010 6:28 PM PST up reply actions  

at camp

we can have a ton of guys. the veteran experience will be a good thing in camp. I really also think teams should offer former players (or those who retire and are smart, good players) advisory roles. Let them stay active and on the field around the game they love while helping their team’s future players develop.

"Vernon is going to be a great tight end one day, but he's got to put the whole package together." - Thanks Sing for echoing this.

by Tre9er on Jan 9, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Taylor Mays

should be our SS. Leave nate there at CB. After all he had Mark Roman, and slow M.Lewis backing him up deep. He was always on an Island. Although we should go after someone with some speed in the off-season. Peace…..Stelf Bombz

by STELF BOMBZ on Jan 12, 2010 1:26 AM PST reply actions  

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