Nonsense like this . . .
by GeoMak on Oct 13, 2010 6:37 PM PDT
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kills me.
From Jason Cole’s article about Singletary getting fired after this season:
"Singletary’s animated demeanor gained him instant stardom when he first jumped on the scene as the Niners interim coach in 2008. He went 5-4 that season and was thought to be turning the organization around. But what observers did not think about was that being an interim coach is more about motivation skills than tactical aptitude. An interim coach inherits a system and modus operandi that are already in place; their main job is to help change the mindset in the locker room."
"Singletary could change the emotional culture in San Francisco, but as a fulltime head coach he was required to change the entire culture. That’s when whatever strategic limitations he might have would become an issue. "
See the problem there?
He talks about Singletary’s interim 5-4 record based on 'motivation' (actually the correct word is leadership) and then (obviously) jumps to the problems this season.
Here’s my question: What about 2009? His first full season as HC? The progress they made in that season that caused so much confidence going into this season?
Umm, The Cardinals won the division at 10-6 in 2009. The 49ers were 8-8. If you are one that believes that QB is the most important position on the field (and if you have any common sense) then you must agree that AZ. (with Kurt Warner) had a HUGE advantage at QB over SF (Hill and Smith).
Not only that, the year before in 2008, Arizona was good enough to go to the SB. SF was good enough to fire their HC. I guess one can surmise that Arizona had a (much) better team than SF in 2008/2009, based on that.
Right?
That leave Singletary with two strikes against him (Arizona has much better talent at the most important position; Arizona has a better overall team.)
Still:
* Singletary’s 49ers twice beat Arizona, much to their eternal consternation.
* Despite Arizona having Warner, Fitzgerald and Boldin (and SF having guys like Smith, Hill and Issac Bruce), Arizona ONLY outscored SF by 45 total points (375-330), an average of less than a FG per game.
* Arizona was ranked #11 in team offense (points scored). SF wasn’t far back at #18.
* Arizona had 27 passing TD’s and 23 INT”s. SF had 18 TD’s and 14 INT’s. The exact same difference between the two (4).
* SF had two heartbreaking losses on the road against two playoff teams. In Minnesota it took Favre’s greatest pass (his words) to beat them. In Indy they held Peyton Manning without a TD, only to lose by four points. But for those two close games against better teams, SF might’ve been 10-6 and division winners.
* The 49ers defense was ranked #4 in 2009 (points allowed). Arizona #15
For all the talk about Singletary's outdated, prehistoric offense, they scored less than THREE POINTS (2.8) PER GAME than did the Arizona Cardinals, who had a HOF QB under center and TWO #1 WR's (SF had neither).
Looks to me like Singletary was doing a pretty good job changing the 'entire culture' in 2009. His 'strategic limitations' in 2009 resulted in a top 5 defense and an offense that scored LESS than 1 point per game below the league average. LESS than three points per game than the 'High Flying' Arizona Cardinals.
One can easily make the argument that he did a GREAT job when compared to their biggest division rival, considering the fact that he DIDN'T inherit a HOF QB (and guys like Fitzgerald and Boldin).
He must've done SOMETHING right in 2009 to get that close to the defending NFC Champions.
He must've done SOMETHING right to have so many people expecting a division title in 2010, right?
Speaking of 2010, no doubt it's been a real tough start. They are 0-5. Communication problems opening day. A coordinator change. A lot of turnovers. Still, a few plays here and there and they could ( maybe should) be 3-2. That's life in the NFL.
After this Sunday one team (Cowboys or Vikings) with major Super Bowl expectations will be at 1-4. Right near SF. It happens in the NFL. Also, of course, the season is SIXTEEN games long, not just 4 or 5.
Was Mike Singletary a SMART HC last season, when he took a lesser team and twice beat the division champs, and came within a few plays of finishing ahead of them?
Or is he an IDIOT now as they have stumbled out the gate?
I'm completely confused here. Someone please explain. Seriously.
All I know is that I have yet to find even ONE journalist give him the credit he deserves for last season, as they bash his brains out for this season.
People have NO patience. The longest tenured HC (and one of the best) was Singletary's teammate with the Bears, Jeff Fisher.
Fisher was 1-5 as an interim HC with the Houston Oilers/Tennessee Titans. He then went:
7-9
8-8
8-8
8-8
before going 13-3 and a trip to the SB. His record after 4+ seasons was 32-38.
Here's another one from the genius that is Tim Kawakami:
"To the heart of it: Singletary has a 13-16 career record, with zero playoff berths, while Reid, in his 13th season with the Eagles, is 110-69-1 with eight playoff berths and one trip to the Super Bowl."
Uhh, Tim, Andy Reid started out 13-15, almost exactly like Mike Singletary.
Hysterical.
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Andy Reid statistic
I’m considering the rest of my response, but I would like to point something out about your mention of Andy Reid. He went 5-11 his first year and 11-5 his second year. At the point where Reid was 13-15 the Eagles were in the midst of a 4-game winning streak that improved them to 9-4 on the season. The big difference in 2000 was the emergence of second year QB Donovan McNabb (among other things).
I don’t think Singletary should be fired at this point. I think in the absolute worst case he deserves the entire season. If he makes the playoffs that’d be an awesome turnaround and worthy of continued employment.
by David Fucillo on Oct 13, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
And if the team makes the "playoff hunt" only to brainfart its way out of it?
Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.
-randolphforpresident
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 13, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
playoff hunt or makes the playoffs?
I think unless Sing can show us a MAJOR sign saying he is the right guy, I think he is gone.
Here is my thought, no way we go as the Wild Card, so we have to go in as Division Champs with Home field advantage. IF we can’t win the first game at home, I think he is gone. Just my opinion.
Just pointing out
that after his first 28 games, Reid was 13-15.
This was like Kevin Lynch’s comment back to me when comparing the inexperience of Singletary and Balke with the vast experience of Reid and Joe Banner.
I took it upon myself to explain to Lynch, that, yes, right NOW, there’s a big gap there.
At the time they were hired, however, Reid had never been a HC before. He’d never been an OC before. He’d been an O-LIne, QB coach.
Joe Banner? At the time Jeffrey Lurie hired him he had NO experience in the game. He previously was a sports reporter who then opened a chain of clothing stores.
It would seem to me that it makes a lot more sense to compare people at ‘relative’ times.
Comparing Mike Singletary (who has two years as HC) to Andy Reid after HIS first two seasons makes a lot more sense than to his entire twelve seasons.
Of course, that’s just me.
Comparing Mike Singletary (who has two years as HC) to Andy Reid after HIS first two seasons makes a lot more sense than to his entire twelve seasons.
Let’s see… In Reid’s second season, his team was 11-5 and won a playoff game. Let’s see Singletary do that!
Fact is, you trotted out a conincidence. Nothing more, nothing less.
Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.
-randolphforpresident
by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 13, 2010 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And let's see
In his second season they played SIXTEEN games.
Singletary has played FIVE.
You can’t honestly expect people to take you seriously with an anwer like that, can you?
Then this:
Fact is, you trotted out a conincidence. Nothing more, nothing less.
No, I trotted out their records after almost the exact same number of games.
I’ll repeat:
You can’t honestly expect people to take you seriously with an anwer like that, can you?
It's not just numbers.
When Sing was had that record, was the team going up, and getting better, or regressing? With Reid, was his team going up, or regressing? You can’t just quote a stat, as they can be manipulated to make any point you want. You have to put them in proper context. While they had the same or close to the same record after the same number of games, Singletary is getting worse, Reid was getting better. At the end of the season, like you said, GIVE HIM 16 GAMES, let’s see what it looks like then. You are the one judging him after 5 games this year. Why don’t you wait until after the season, then compare them at that point in time. Reid will be running away with the best record.
Sadly you're probably right
I’m going to give everybody all 16 games, but Singletary has a tough job ahead.
by mr. instigator on Oct 14, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Umm
Reid will be running away with the best record.
Never said Singletary would have a better record. That’s you simply not understanding what I said.
When Sing was had that record, was the team going up, and getting better, or regressing? With Reid, was his team going up, or regressing You can’t just quote a stat, as they can be manipulated to make any point you want. You have to put them in proper context.?
Good God, you people kill me. This isn’t the stock market. It’s hard to determine if a team is ‘going up’ or regressing from week to week or weeks to weeks.
Listen close: ALL I SAID WAS THIS. (Listen close)! After their FIRST 29 games a new HC’s in the NFL . . . both MIke Singletary and Andy Reid had virtually almost identical records.
Get it?
That sounds MUCH more accurate and relevant than what Kawakami said:
“To the heart of it: Singletary has a 13-16 career record, with zero playoff berths, while Reid, in his 13th season with the Eagles, is 110-69-1 with eight playoff berths and one trip to the Super Bowl.”
Umm, Earth to Tim: You’re comparing a guy (MS) who has two years on the job with a guy (Reid) who has TWELVE!
I would hope Reid would have a lot more victories than Singletary based on that comparison (12 years to 2), wouldn’t you?
Your comparison is better than Kawakami
But still has to be taken in context. It’s tough to compare two different HC’s, and two different teams. I’d take Reid’s record at the time, over our record at the same point. We are regressing, Reid’s team was hitting their stride.
Basically what I’m saying is this, when Reid had that record, you could see the light at the end of the tunnel. With us, I’m still wondering how much further we can fall.
Look
Bill Walsh started out 2-14 in 1979. He lost his first 7 games, won 1 and then lost 6.
The next season he won his first 3, then lost his next 8.
By that point he was 5-22 with an EIGHT game losing steak. That’s after his first 27 games, a comparable number of games to the examples above with Singletary (29) and Reid (28).
I’m pretty sure that his team wasn’t looking too good during that eight game losing streak. Maybe they were . . . I don’t know.
Obviously, it turned out pretty well for Walsh and the 49ers.
I am NOT saying Mike Singletary is or will be as good as Walsh.
I am NOT saying Mike Singletary is or will be as good as Reid.
All I am saying is that it’s a little hard to tell, especially after 25, 26, 27 games. Especially since, record-wise, Singletary is holding his own against those two guys after roughly the same number of games.
So what's your point?
You were saying how you hated Kawakami’s comparison, which I agree with. I just think there was more to your comparison of Reid than just the actual numbers. Now you are comparing Walsh?
So what’s the point? Are you saying that based on the numbers than Singletary should get another year? Then just say it.
Didn't we go over last seaon...
Like……last season…?
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Well, Jason Cole
went over the 2008 season . . . this week.
The 2010 season . . . this week.
If you’re gonna go over those two seasons now, you should at least then go over 2009 too.
I realize that this concept goes over your head.
I think we did do 2009..
and it boiled down to the 49ers only beating one team above .500 – The AZ Cardinals.
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Umm, I KNOW you know nothing about football
But in the NFL, they add up ‘wins & losses.’ There is no ‘extra credit’ for beating ’winning teams.
It’s Wins & Losses.
The Cardinals beat TWO teams with winning records in 2009 (Houston/Minnesota).
The 49ers beat one team TWICE with a winning record (Arizona).
Each team won TWO games against teams with a winning record in 2009.
As usual, you still make no sense.
Hey, check this out..
I did a little GeoMath, and I combined the wins of 3 of the 49er opponents from last season:
SEA – 5-11
DET – 2-14
STL – 1-15
SEA got one of those wins against SF. So if we combined those 3 teams into one, we have a new GeoStat – the 49ers beat a .500 team!!
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Even for you, that makes no sense
See, I answered your post with facts and figures (see above).
You replied with complete nonsense.
As usual. Congratulations.
BTW: Arizona played those exact same teams. What’s the point (besides more nonsense)?
Are you sure you did? Because I did..
For AZ, picking 2 above .500 teams, and one @ .500 (the 49ers didn’t have a win against a .500 team last season):
MIN – 12-4
HOU -9-7
NYG – 8-8
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Oh, I though you said ABOVE .500
and looky here. YOU DID!
and it boiled down to the 49ers only beating one team above .500 – The AZ Cardinals
What a clown!
Yeah, that has been mentioned at the top of this convo..
You alright buddy? Maybe you should double up on the Metamucil. I’m sure if you give the nurse a little wink and a pat on the tush she might oblige sneaking it in.
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I'm alright
First you say
above .500
Then, when I destroy that debate, you CHANGE it to:
and one @ .500 (the 49ers didn’t have a win against a .500 team last season):
Which is it, Bozo? ABOVE .500 . . . or @ .500?
Too funny.
BTW: Have a 5th grader explain the difference between the two to you.
You just continue to embarrass yourself in my presence.
Gotta give you credit, though
You’re the first clown to criticize Mike Singletary for not beating any .500 teams:
(the 49ers didn’t have a win against a .500 team last season):
That’s a new one. Congratulations!
They didn't..
What part of reality don’t you get?
JAX – 7-9
CHI – 7-9
7 doesn’t equal 8. Oh wait. GeoMath!!
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Umm, the point was this
You may be the ONLY person in the history of Earth to comment/care whether a team beat a FIVE HUNDRED team!
Who gives a -—?
I can see commenting about beating teams ABOVE .500.
But .500 itself?
Insane! Congratulations again.
Geo. Take the pill. Now.
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.500 means 8 games..
I shouldn’t have to explain this to you, but hey, I’m a nice guy when it comes to challenged people like yourself. Must be hard dealing with your ward mates.
You’re 54 years old, right? If looking from the outside, wouldn’t you find is curious that a man your age would be spending his time with inane e-mails to sports writers, and posting it here? I mean the GeoNonsense it pretty entertaining, and your insults to pretty much anybody that disagrees with said insanity errr inanity (if that’s a word) is step up from pWned!, but it looks like your dangerously close to the edge here.
It’s gonna be a rough season. Check that, it’s a disastrous going on 5 games, so you may have to take a break from this. I’m not really concerned about you in particular. I’m more concerend with what you are purchasing on your credit card to further your mission against these writers.
The GeoManifesto is what be posted here next.
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I only crticize writers
when they write nonsense.
I might be ‘challenged’ but my NFL intelligence dwarfs yours.
Need proof? Just have a 5th grader read yours and mine and explain the difference to you.
You’re the clown, remember, who, after I said Mike Nolan never reached .500, replied back by saying he once was 7-9.
(And you call me ‘challenged.’)
Umm, 7-9 is NOT .500 (Actually it’s .437)!
Geo. Take the pill. Now.
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WOW
Internet tough guys…
When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?" I miss the 90's.....
by crumpedup15 on Oct 13, 2010 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I think drummer has a crush
no other explanation for how he seems to be on the look out for geo-posts. on a side note, this whole long debate, what was the point again? Whether they beat 8-8 teams versus 9-7 or better? the point, it is lost…
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
How old are you GeoMak?
I don’t go all the way back…but I do remember watching “the catch” when I was in grade school. This was once s storied franchise, that the whole league esteemed to be like. Do you remember when that was the case about 25 years ago? Now the team is the complete laughing stock of the league. And you are defending the coach with statistics that are pretty poor…I don’t get it. Do you like your team being the joke every NFL show you watch. How many Super Bowls have the Eagles won…bad comparison. And you are defending the coach…boggles the mind.
He isn't a 49er fan..
he is a Bears fan who has a serious problem with sports writers.
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Now the team is the complete laughing stock of the league
No, not even close. Like Herm Edwards said this morning:
It’s fixable. They’ve beaten themselves in about three games this season. There are usually 4 or 5 plays every game that determine the outcome. Like Dallas and Minnesota, the 49ers have come out on the wrong end of those plays this year. It’s fixable
Yeah, Herm Edwards. That guy is pretty good.
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Herm has forgotten
more about football than most would even begin to know.
Feel free to say something with some meaning, or intelligence.
Well, if you are gonna use someone who knows..
the wrong end of streaks, you did pick the right guy.
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Right
And let me know when Mike & Mike invite you on their show to solicit your opinions on the NFL. That’s ‘must see TV.’
Really. You endlessly reply and reply. Never with anything intelligent, but still, you reply and reply.
Yeah, I bet Jason Cole will do a few radio shows too..
because he knows who the Rat is apparently.
BTW, you’re slipping. I haven’t seen the usual “HILARIOUS. TOO FUNNY. LAUGHABLE. YOU CRACK ME UP”, that usually tags a GeoPost. That’s GOLD Geo, GOLD!.
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More credible than dumber
Damn you Montana and Young, your success has spoiled a great percentage of our fan base into speculative rants and raves and pure denial of reality.
rlott#42
GEO IS YOUR FATHER!!
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You were hatched
Damn you Montana and Young, your success has spoiled a great percentage of our fan base into speculative rants and raves and pure denial of reality.
rlott#42
See the sig...
Not every coach has the luxury of inheritng a Parcels team, a playoff team, or a great Gm from day1. it happens to some but not to all.
Damn you Montana and Young, your success has spoiled a great percentage of our fan base into speculative rants and raves and pure denial of reality.
rlott#42
So exactly what doesn't he have now
that accounts for an 0-5 start, OC flip flopping, sideline antics, media antics and poor sportsmanship?
Talk about denial of reality…
'Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling.'
sideline antics, like what? Media antics? and Sportsmanship?
doesn’t translate into losses. There is no denial of reality over here. He has one good draft since he been here and that was this year. 2009 was a flop of a draft. You need new talent and he hasb’t been able to add much to the team, until this year. But wait, why do rookie OL need time to blossom? What effect does a new center have on a team that didn’t have said center for all of training camp? What the hell do young teams do? They play inconsistently, has there ever been a team this young that was extremely successful? Not lately!!
Damn you Montana and Young, your success has spoiled a great percentage of our fan base into speculative rants and raves and pure denial of reality.
rlott#42
They are symptoms of something Un-good
Bitching out your QB on national TV is sideline antics.
Coming down on a KPIX reporter’s job was media antics.
Not shaking hands with the opposing HC is poor sportsmanship.
Starts at the top. What was the famous Truman saying about the buck stopping somewhere?
'Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling.'
The QB needed to be bitched at at that point.
Think about it, you bench him and he tells you he isn’t coming out. yeah he should have been bitchin. Look how much people here rant about Smith, HE’s COACHING THE GUY OUT THERE SCREWING.
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rlott#42
UP
Damn you Montana and Young, your success has spoiled a great percentage of our fan base into speculative rants and raves and pure denial of reality.
rlott#42
OK, what about 2009?
The record was a pretty un-inspiring 6-8 going into the last 2 games, which were against he beaten down Lions and Rams who had no reason to put up much resistance. AS we are now seeing, going 8-8 last season was flattery. Also Fisher inherited a team greatly lacking in Talent, Singletary inherited a talented team and has succeeded in making it under-achieve to the tune of an 0-5 start.
Talented?
Willis, Spikes, Smith, Clements, not one coverage DB on the roster. Davis, Gore, and nothing else on offense, not even one pro bowl OL. Yeah right, that is not talent. Teams that have more probowl lineman have better success, just look at the Cowboys. If you think that receiving options is all you need, I would re-assess somethings.
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rlott#42
We were 8-8 last season and clowns like you were jumping for joy
We are now 0-5 in Singletary’s second season. Explain how that is an improvement.
On second thoughts, don’t bother, just keep right-on drinking the Kool Aid as Gore runs up the gut for zero gain one more time.
by suffrin9erfan on Oct 14, 2010 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I lot of other teams beat up the Lions, Rams, Browns, Bills, Chiefs, Raiders, Redskins and Bucs. Every other team in league padded there record against a few other bad teams so you cannot hold it against one coach.
and stats
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rlott#42
LOL ... nice signature
Are you saying it’s not as simple as the Yorks wanting to go out and hire the next Bill Walsh who will find the next Joe Montana?
Maybe Al Davis can help the 49ers find a new Head Coach.
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Maybe Al davis can get you a job as HC, he will definitely support you, just like JeMarcus.
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rlott#42
:facepalm:
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No kiddin' but really I don't see the problem there have been a thousand of those guys.....
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rlott#42
So you are saying Singletary wasn't the Great Saviour for getting this team to 8-8?
You are agreeing that the team was flattered by the schedule, thanks. Even given that last season’s performance was mediocre at best, this season’s is way below that pinnacle of achievement. They are therefore under-achieving and as a team should be doing much better than 0-5, but they are not. According to the Sheep-like bleating in this thread: it’s everyone else’s fault except the Head Coach.
by suffrin9erfan on Oct 14, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions
Anybody who believes..
that the 49ers are well coached into this season is myopic.
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No I am saying you continue to twist. Every team in the NFL has wins padded on their schedule due to playing bad teams. If you are going to take two wins off the 49ers 2009 record you have to for every team in the league.
If I give you three more paragraphs of nonsense justifications I’m sure you could talk yourself into the believing the 2009 49ers were an 0-16 team.
I don't get it.
IT takes time to build or fix a team. Time. You know, that thing people feel like coaches don’t deserve? WTH did anyone expect here, Sing steps in, and in a matter of 2 years has Walsh numbers (and not Walsh’s first 2 years)? People, sit down, watch some football. Just breathe, and watch. If you hire a coach, and give them less than 3 years (4-5 tbh in my opinion) you are basically saying “here, fix this right now hurry up right now why isn’t it fixed fine you’re fired on the the next person with no chance to actually get it done.” Relax folks, If Sing sucks, he’ll still suck next year. He didn’t exactly inherit Joe cool, he got Al luke warm except on rare occasions. I want to see how this season pans out. THEN I want to see what he does (assuming he gets a say) in the draft to fix it. Until then, all you do is pass the problems on down to the next coach for you to turn on in a year or two.
PLEASE get McFadden out of Oakland. The pain is more than I can handle. Oakland, where careers go to die.
Cole was on KNBR..
the other day explaining his article. His source he explains isn’t a player. From what it appears, the source is higher up in the Organization. Of course, he can’t reveal the source.
So we don’t really know what’s going on, outside of what the media reports. But outside of Cole’s piece, there has been a lot of other reporters who have written about some turmoil going on at HQ. Even some of the ex-players have leaked out a few blurbs about things like disorganization and lack of focus. Given all that, it seems to appear there might be some trouble that affects the Big Picture. So it’s really beyond the 0-5 start, and Cole said that they are thinking about the Big Picture, and where the HC lies within it.
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That's just it...
There were problems that had to be corrected from last year. They’re mostly still with us. It doesn’t look like Singletary is growing into his role. There’s absolutely no reason to think that will be different next year. There are instances where you can see enough in less than 3 years to justify making a move.
The Yorks need to hire a real GM..
the FO itself is as green behind the ears as the HC. Singletary is just a symptom of why the 49ers are a train wreck of a Franchise. There is no way a coach who has only been back in the NFL starting in 2003, with 2 years in BAL, the remainder under Nolan’s regime.
I saw Magic Johnson chew out Nick Van Exel , as well as Elden Campbell.
To become a HOF player, means you are in a situation to become a HOF player. HOF coaches usually have HOF Ownership. There are exceptions to that rule, yet Joe Torre in Los Angeles could illustrate the obvious.
Hey, all we have to do is look at Isiah Thomas.
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green...
Are you saying that because Trent Baalke wasn’t a GM elsewhere he is too green? Can you clarify what you mean as to why FO is green?
by David Fucillo on Oct 15, 2010 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions
How many years...
has the Team President have under his belt, with another team to qualify the resume? Baalke, from what Maiocco has said on KNBR, is out scouting rather and hardly spends time in the FO. smiley heard the same. McGloughan has a deeper resume’ than Baalke. ScotM had Ron Wolf as his Boss. ScotM was basically a scout like Baalke. Where the hell do scouts lie in the totem pole of Organizations? Well, they are frigging’ scouts. How the hell do you figure a low level scout to qualify @ the Admin level, when his job is still to scout, and is not at his desk at GM?
I’m a businessman too. I’m self made. There is no way would I even dare the weak structure of the 49ers. You would, given your education, would too. This is flat out poor Administration. You;‘re a smart guy Fooch. Yor really are just as qualified to run this team as Jed is. The only thing you have against you is that your Uncle isn’t Eddie D.
Replace John York with Jed, right now, The same FO structure still applies. He has fired yet another GM, and he is looking at firing yet another Head Coach. You know what the chants would be on Sunday Night;’s game? It would be “SELL THE TEAM!!”
Jed is just a proxy of who really owns it. Because we are conditioned to promises that yield poor results. There is now way Raiderfan can call us Bandwagon fans. We are still fans under the same delusion the Ownership relies upon.
And all you need to do is look at resumes’ of the GM’’s of the past decade.
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All I need to know is the 49ers W-L record since the Yorks took control
68 – 97
Anyone have any persuasive ‘Yeah, but’(s) to offer up?
'Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling.'
regime can succeed.
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