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San Francisco 49ers @ Carolina Panthers: A Prospector's Guide

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Anybody else remember back in the 90s when the 49ers and Panthers had a budding rivalry? The Panthers jumped into contention in a fairly short amount of time after coming into the league as an expansion team and they gave the 49ers all sorts of trouble. Fast forward to last year's Panthers Watch and we're once again rooting for Panthers losses.

This is a game that the 49ers really should win, but given the 49ers varying performances this year, who really knows what will happen. It seems fairly certain at this point that our 49ers will remain a tough team to figure out from week to week. We know the general formula the 49ers need to succeed but it's a matter of the team consistently putting that formula together. Throw in the often treacherous 10am pacific start time and who knows what will happen. Coach Singletary has indicated the 49ers will use the practice schedule they used for the Falcons game, so hopefully that's a difference-maker.

Once again I've attached a prediction poll. Head after the jump for random tidbits about this matchup.

Star-divide

The 49ers travel to Charlotte, NC, to face the Carolina Panthers in what will be the 17th meeting between the two clubs. Carolina holds a slight advantage over the Niners by leading the overall series 9-7, but San Francisco has a .500 record on the road vs. the Panthers (4-4). The Niners have won two of the past four meetings against Carolina, securing a win at home and on the road in those victories.

San Francisco captured its first victory of the season by defeating the Oakland Raiders at Candlestick Park, 17-9. After trailing 6-3 at halftime, the 49ers scored 14 points in the second half to defeat the Raiders. QB Alex Smith connected with WR Michael Crabtree late in the 3rd quarter on a 32-yard TD recept. to give the 49ers its first lead of the game. The TD reception for Crabtree was his second in as many weeks. RB Frank Gore rushed for 149 yds. in that game, passing RB Ken Willard to move into third place on the franchise's all-time rushing leaders list with 6,032 yds. Gore also moved into 5th place in all-time scrimmage yds. with 8,147 yds. by again passing RB Ken Willard.

49ers-Raiders Panthers Connections
Coaches
49ers head coach Mike Singletary was a member of the Chicago Bears while Panthers tight ends/offensive quality control coach Geep Chryst was in a similar role in Chicago from 1991-92. Chryst also coached with 49ers wide receivers coach Jerry Sullivan and tight ends coach Pete Hoener while the two were with the Arizona Cardinals from 2001-03, and with 49ers quarterbacks coach Mike Johnson while the two were with the San Diego Chargers in 2000. 

- 49ers tight ends coach Pete Hoener coached with Panthers secondary coach Ron Milus and wide receivers coach Tyke Tolbert while the three were with the Arizona Cardinals during the 2003 season. 

- 49ers wide receivers coach Jerry Sullivan coached with Panthers head coach John Fox while with the San Diego Chargers from 1992-93. Sullivan also coached with Panthers defensive line coach Brian Baker with the Detroit Lions from 1997-2000. 

- 49ers secondary coach Johnnie Lynn, Panthers head coach John Fox, Panthers assistant head coach/running backs coach Jim Skipper, and Panthers secondary coach Mike Gillhamer all coached together while with the New York Giants from 1997-2000. 

- 49ers asst. offensive line coach Ray Brown coached with Panthers wide receivers coach Tyke Tolbert while with the Buffalo Bills from 2008-09. 

- Panthers special teams coordinator Jeff Rodgers served as the 49ers special teams quality control coach from 2003-07. 

- Panthers linebackers coach Richard Smith served as the 49ers linebackers coach from 1997-02. Smith also coached with 49ers special teams coordinator Kurt Schottenheimer while the two were with the Detroit Lions during the 2003 season. 

- 49ers equipment manager Steve Urbaniak graduated from East Carolina University, in 1998. Urbaniak helped the Pirates reach consecutive Libery Bowls as a punter before spending two years at the student manager.

PANTHERS-NORCAL CONNECTIONS: Panthers assistant head coach/running backs coach Jim Skipper was the head coach for the XFL's San Francisco Demons in 2001 ... Panthers secondary coach Mike Gillhamer broke into coaching as a defensive line coach at the College of the Sequuoias from 1979-83. He also was the defensive backs coach at San Jose State from 1990-93 ... Panthers linebackers coach Richard Smith served as the outside linebackers coach/special teams at Cal from 1984-86.

49ERS-CAROLINA CONNECTIONS: 49ers QB David Carr played in 6 games (4 starts) for the Panthers during the 2007 season ... 49ers K Joe Nedney played in 12 games for the Panthers during the 2000 season ... 49ers CB Phillip Adams is a native of Charlotte, N.C.

FORMER 49ERS: Panthers P Jason Baker played 27 games for the 49ers from 2001-02 ... Panthers S Marcus Hudson was a 6th round (192nd overall) draft pick by the 49ers in 2006. He played in 48 games for San Francisco from 2006- 09. 

SIC ‘EM BEARS - 49ers WR Dominique Zeigler and Panthers CB C.J. Wilson were teammates at Baylor from 2003-05. 

BAYOU BENGALS - 49ers DT Ricky Jean Francois, S Curtis Taylor, and Panthers WR Brandon LaFell were all teammates at LSU from 2006-08. 

THE "U" - 49ers RB Frank Gore and Panthers LB Jon Beason were teammates at the University of Miami during the 2003 season. 

RUNNIN' REBELS - 49ers LB Patrick Willis and Panthers DE Greg Hardy were teammates at the University of Mississippi during the 2006 season. 

PART OF THE "PACK" - 49ers LB Manny Lawson and Panthers S Marcus Hudson were teammates at N.C. State University from 2002-04. 

O-H-I-0! - 49ers CB Nate Clements and Panthers CB Chris Gamble patrolled the corners of the Ohio State defense together from 2001-02. 

HERE COME THE BEAVERS - 49ers LB Keaton Kristick and Panthers QB Matt Moore were teammates while the two were at Oregon State University during the 2006 season. 

QUACK ATTACK - 49ers T Adam Snyder was a teammate of Panthers TE Dante Rosario and T Geoff Schwartz at the University of Oregon during the 2004 season. 

SOONER SCHOONER- 49ers S Reggie Smith and Panthers LB Nic Harris patrolled the Oklahoma backfield from 2005-07. 

PANTHER PRIDE - 49ers TE Nate Byham and Panthers T Jeff Otah were teammates at Pitt from 2006-07. 

TROJAN TIES - 49ers S Taylor Mays, G Chilo Rachal, and Panthers C Ryan Kalil were all teammates at USC during the 2006 season. 

HELLO HOKIES - 49ers WR Josh Morgan, Panthers WR David Clowney, and TE Jeff King all lined up together for Virginia Tech from 2004-05

Series Highlights
Matchups: 16
Series Record: Panthers lead series 9-7
49ers Away Record vs. Panthers: Tied 4-4
First Meeting: 11/5/95, Panthers win, 13-7
Last Meeting: 12/2/07, Panthers win, 31-14
Current Streak: Lost 2
Longest 49ers Win Streak: 4 (9/29/97-12/6/98)
Longest Panthers Win Streak: 4 (10/17/99-10/22/00)
Most 49ers Points: 44 (9/5/94), 44-14, at Carolina
Most Panthers Points: 41 (12/18/99), 31-24, at Carolina
49ers Shutouts: None
Panthers Shutouts
: None

CAROLINA 31 SAN FRANCISCO 14
At Charlotte, NC, December 2, 2007

The Carolina Panthers converted 6 49ers turnovers into 17 points in a 31-14 victory over the visiting San Francisco 49ers. After jumping to a 17-0 first half lead, the 49ers stormed back into the game with TD drives on their first 2 possessions in the second half to close to 17-14. The 49ers had the momentum and were in position to get the ball back after forcing the Panthers to punt from their own 30-yard line.

WR Michael Lewis muffed a punt, and Carolina recovered at the San Francisco 11-yd. line to set up a Carolina TD for a 24-14 lead. Carolina converted 4, 3rd-downs to get in position for their final TD in the 4th quarter to seal the 31-14 win. Despite throwing 2 TD passes in the 3rd quarter, QB Trent Dilfer was intercepted 4 times, including a 2nd quarter pass that was returned 67 yards for a TD. Carolina sacked Dilfer 6 times, and limited the 49ers to just 12 first downs and 195 total yds. of offense.

Carolina took a 3-0 lead in the 1st quarter after a WR Arnaz Battle fumble allowed a drive to start at midfield. Carolina increased their lead to 10-0 with a 10-play, 80-yard drive that was capped by a QB Vinny Testaverde 5-yard touchdown pass to TE Dante Rosario. Panthers CB Richard Marshall intercepted a Dilfer pass on the next series and returned it 67 yards for a score and a 17-0 lead. S Michael Lewis intercepted a Testaverde pass at the Carolina 38-yard line on the first series of the second half, and Dilfer took advantage of the key field position with a 20-yard TD pass to Battle to get the 49ers on the score board.

San Francisco's defense stopped the Panthers on the next series, and a 41-yard punt return by CB Nate Clements gave the 49ers a first down at the Carolina 35-yard line. Two plays later, Dilfer fired a 21-yard TD pass to TE Delanie Walker to make it a 3-point game at 17-14. The 49ers defense stopped Carolina on 3 straight plays on the ensuing drive, but the Lewis muffed punt set up a Carolina score and a 10-point Panthers lead. Rookie LB Patrick Willis followed a record-setting performance with 21 tackles at Arizona a week earlier with a team-leading 18 total tackles against the Panthers.

2010 Statistics

49ERS (rank) PANTHERS (rank)
1-5 (4th NFCW) Record 0-5 (4th NFCS)
15.5 (30th) Points per game 10.4 (32nd)
317.7 (19th) Total Offense 317.7 (19th)
91.2 (t-27th) Rushing Offense 99.6 (20th)
226.5 (15th) Passing Offense 136.4 (32nd)
29:55 (18th) Possession Avg 25:54 (31st)
23.2 (t-24th) Points allowed/gm 22.0 (20th)
312.3 (10th) Total Defense 316.8 (12th)
111.2 (20th) Rushing Defense 134.4 (26th)
201.2 (11th) Passing Defense 182.4 (5th)
12 (t-13th) Sacks 7 (t-27th)
45.2 (t-4th) Punting Avg (Gross) 43.6 (9th)
-8 (32nd) Turnover Differential -4 (t-27th)

 

Poll
Who will win this weekend?
49ers
696 votes
Panthers
77 votes
Tie
49 votes

822 votes | Poll has closed

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9ers win

unless they have givin’ up

by Riceball on Oct 20, 2010 6:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Should be a thrilling game

……

'Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling.'

by riderless on Oct 20, 2010 6:58 AM PDT reply actions  

49ers win

Unless they go back to their over confident ways but I am hoping the first 5 games beat those thoughts right out of them. Also Carolina coming off a bye week, could be very motivated to play hard. On Paper the 49ers should dominate but I stoped believing in paper 4 games ago. What I think will happen is a repeat of the raiders game.

by DCSMITH722 on Oct 20, 2010 7:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Stat and record wise these team's mirror each other ( scary ) ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 20, 2010 7:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Niners should run over Panthers

Panthers are 26th ranked in run defense, Gore should hopefully be able to find some big holes and pick up some good yardage.

On another note, the Niners have an extremely easy schedule for the rest of the season:

Oct 24 @Carolina 1:00pm
Oct 31 Denver (London) 1:00pm
Week 9 BYE
Nov 14 St. Louis 4:15pm
Nov 21 Tampa Bay 4:05pm
Nov 29 @Arizona 8:30pm
Dec 5 @Green Bay 1:00pm
Dec 12 Seattle 4:05pm
Dec 16 @San Diego 8:20pm
Dec 26 @St. Louis 1:00pm
Jan 2 Arizona 4:15pm

They should be able to compete for at least 8 wins in the next 10 games. Although, if they turn the ball over 3 times a game they won’t win anything.
The Niners play so many young QB’s, theres no reason they shouldn’t walk out of the end of the season with a record of 8-8 or 9-7. Those numbers in the weak NFC West could probably be enough to win the division.

I for one though, am not getting my hopes up. I am sure some one will fumble away a win or two one way or another.

by Kubes069 on Oct 20, 2010 8:43 AM PDT reply actions  

raiders

The raiders have a lame run defense too but it wasnt easy until the 2nd half… honestly im a lil bit worried about our team. (thinking about suing the 49ers for emotional distress lol!)

by Xan101 on Oct 20, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

HAHA

Yeah seriously. All summer I talked up these Niners. Not only that, anywhere I wear a Niners jersey I get insane comments. BTW, I am from New Jersey, so there is not many of us Niners fans out here!

by Kubes069 on Oct 20, 2010 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am stationed up in Cape Cod

I know your pain. Oh and i hate the Patriots and their Jonas Brothers QB too (nothing to do with my point just throwing that out there).

by DCSMITH722 on Oct 20, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

Yeah, i have grown to hate the Pats as well. Living around all these Jets fans its hard not to support them. Same goes for the Giants, although i like seeing the Giants win more than the Jets.

Plus I hate mostly anything from Boston, so seeing Tom Brady win all the Super Bowls the recent years has made my opinion biased.

by Kubes069 on Oct 20, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Amen to that. I just always wonder If Alex Smith was drafted to a team that had a solid O-line and consistent Offensive Coordinator how thing would be.

Or better yet, if Aaron Rodgers was drafted to us, would he be considered a top 5 QB?

by Kubes069 on Oct 20, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

As painful as it can be at time's ....

… the second half of the Raider game is why you keep pounding the rawk …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 20, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm not a troll but you should probably understand that our seasons are over

there’s a reason we’re this bad and our teams just kinda suck…

by vitzeng on Oct 20, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Predict another ugly struggle: Niners win 16-10

Niners will find a way to play at a level down to that of the Panthers. Mistakes will be made on both sides. Overall, MJ’s offense flatters to deceive. He is loyal to SIng’s power-run-up-the-middle game plan to a fault. I don’t expect an expanded role for Westbrook or any wrinkles whatsoever.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Wesley Walls

I swear that guy was the devil reincarnate.

by InTimmyWeTrust on Oct 20, 2010 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

We should be able to take it

As long as we stay out of protect mode (play to win and not to not lose) we should be 2-5. I think we’re seeing signs of Alex/the offense being more agressive. But they’ve got to be agressive while being on the same page. There were obvious signs of miscommunication last Sunday that need correction. And even though Alex was only sacked twice, he still can’t be allowed to be running for his life! As with most QB’s, he’s a lot more effective when he has time to get rid of the ball!

Don't mind me, I'm on a roller coaster. . .

I'm on twitter now. Please follow me! www.twitter.com/@yougomango

by Mangoman on Oct 20, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

100+ people didn't vote yes...

I know the team has struggled quite a bit but people honestly think we’re going to lose or tie?? Come on…

by agchee on Oct 20, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Most 49ers points correction

Panthers did not yet exist in ‘94. I don’t think the Niners have ever scored that many against Carolina.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 21, 2010 12:32 AM PDT reply actions  

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