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Mike Singletary Approval Rating, Painful Loss Edition

Last week we brought back the Mike Singletary approval rating for the first time since week one, only this time it was a rating of 1 to 10 instead of a simple yes, no poll. Given all the negativity on the site the last couple days I was hesitant to post this poll. However, having a poll last week after a win without a follow-up after a loss would make less week's poll all the more insignificant. Might as well see how much of last week was a post-victory bump. Everybody please play nice in the comments.

Of course, this week might very well be a post-loss dive. I'm sure this happens to many fan-bases, but it certainly seems like we've had a roller-coaster ride here at Niners Nation. We've been in existence since the last week of December 2006. One could argue that in terms of in-season excitement, we might have actually peaked during that initial week. Ever since that time it seems like we've gone into seasons with a lot of excitement and things went in the crapper shortly thereafter, with this season being only the latest such example.

We've basically spent much of the last decade in the proverbial pit of despair. If Mike Singletary doesn't work out as head coach, we'll have gone through Dennis Erickson, Mike Nolan and Mike Singletary, and come out the other end with a more talented roster, but not much to show for it. THAT is what I fear more than anything, and what really has me dismayed. It's not that 2010 would be a lost year. Rather, it's that 2003 to 2010 would all basically be lost years.

Maybe I'm being a whiny baby. After all, during my first 23 years of life, the 49ers won five Super Bowls and won 10 or more games in 19 of those years. I'm sure there are a lot of fan bases that would tell me to shut my mouth and suck it up. Of course, part of being a fan of the 49ers franchise until 2003 was that you expected to be a playoff contender, if not Super Bowl contender, every year. Now, we find ourselves wandering through the desert of mediocrity. The accumulation of talent does indicate a light at the end of the tunnel (to mix cliches), but patience is certainly wearing thing.

I'm not here to blame the Yorks because I know some of you will jump all over them with reckless abandon. I do blame them for many problems with this franchise, but as I've said over and over again, I do think they've improved as owners and are trying to do right by the franchise. They've made mistakes, and while my patience has certainly worn thin, I would actually like to see them in charge when things finally do turn around so they can get credit for their involvement.

Given the team's struggles, consider these just the random musings of a fan slowly being driven towards insanity.

Poll
How would you rate Coach Singletary's job performance to date on a scale of 1 to 10?
1 - awful
447 votes
2
216 votes
3
300 votes
4
136 votes
5
110 votes
6
44 votes
7
24 votes
8
18 votes
9
3 votes
10 - great
15 votes

1313 votes | Poll has closed

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He gets this because he was smart enough to can Raye and get a win over a team that we were supposed to beat. Other than this, I can’t approve of his coaching or his delusional press conferences.

by 9thevolution on Oct 26, 2010 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

3

While I’m sure his staff likes working with him because he’s not a micromanager, apparently he is not holding them accountable for the mistakes. The team has obviously not been as well prepared as our opponents have and has lacked a comprehensive gameplan. We have been outcoached and that falls on Sing’s watch. I’m starting to feel like it may take too long for him to develop a successful HC managerial style.

by DeathValleyCarl on Oct 26, 2010 7:43 AM PDT reply actions  

The worst team in the NFL

does not deserve high approval anywhere.

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 7:45 AM PDT reply actions  

That would be the bills who havent won even 1 game yet

Founder of team Omté Caspeen

by Widowwolf on Oct 26, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's put it this way

The Bills are closer to 2 wins than the Niners are right now. Yes, even though the Niners have 1 win I say this.

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gave it a three.

Thinking it should be around a four or five, solely because I think every facet of this team is collapsing. Yes, that mainly falls on the HC, but maybe I’m feeling nice. Evidently not, because I voted three.

And then God created Saturn... and he liked it, so he put a ring on it.
Twitter me and what not.

by James Brady on Oct 26, 2010 7:57 AM PDT reply actions  

your gut instict pushed your logic out of the way to make the appropriate vote

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

3

I’ve seen it with my own eyes, and clearly Sing is not our long term solution to get us #6. he’s a good person, and great football mind but simple game management mishaps and stubborn gameplans have our team lost and confused. Belichek, mike smith, even blubbering Rex Ryan are out their getting their teams in position to do one thing, win!

If we had gone at least 8-8 or better and a playoff birth, I’d have no problem with him coming back. But Sing and A. Smith have sunk their own ship.

by LADubbz45 on Oct 26, 2010 8:09 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Sometimes as fans we can become prisoners of the moment and i can say i so glad

   to be getting rid of nolan that i threw singletery not having any experience as a coordinator right out the door oh how was i wrong.This mentality of you can’t break singletery will is a load of BS cuzz last time i checked he’s not suiting up his speaches are done his over the top confidence is done n his arrogance is done.Coaching expirience has alot to do with it just look at the GIANTS across the bay bochy has expirience.It hurts me to jump of off singletery band-wagon cuzz i was one of his die-hard supporters but its not working n the sooner that jed accepts it the better this team will be.

by Jayubb415rebirth on Oct 26, 2010 8:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Awful is a good, polite word for it.

Sign can’t be trusted to meddle in the offense or defense and is not competent to inspire. There is nothing for him to do anymore except bizarrely yell at the referees like a chained up dog. I sincerely do not understand his purpose or value to the team anymore. He doesn’t understand his own other other teams well enough to be a head coach now.

Yes, from 2003-2010 the team has been horrible. But it is still getting worse. This can change, as NFL franchises can become contenders pretty quickly today (maybe not be elite teams, but contend at the half mark of the season). Something can and should be done right now. The best move would be to hire a good GM, who would evaluate the Coach.

by Vertigo on Oct 26, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

My only opportunity is in fact to “say” here; “doing” is the owner’s job and I believe they have the leisure and resources to act fairly easily. A football mind could be brought in with the writing of a check, and this person could serve even in a temporary GM role. Sing is way over his head and has no help.

by Vertigo on Oct 26, 2010 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

GM

I like that approach. Remember, we had our best season in recent memory while the current Seahawk GM was still with us.

On top of that, though, I feel Sing has some real potential, and it would be unreasonable to expect him to carry a young team the same way a veteran coach would. Of course, we need results and we need them now, but I also feel that by just riding this through, we have the chance at establishing a franchise HC and system that will become a dynasty.

Then again, I could be wrong and we’d just be wasting more time, but I would really hate it if we served as the training ground for a good coach without reaping any of the benefit.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Oct 26, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Potential?

To what? Ruin a talented team?

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bill Belichik was a loser in Cleveland

Before coming to the Patriots.

For every Belichik there are probably 5 Romeo Crennels, but I think we might have a good young coach who needs a good football GM to help his development as a coach. Remember, he learned the ropes under Mike Nolan, a HC of questionable talent at best.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Oct 26, 2010 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Belichick

One difference with Belichick is that he had the Xs and Os knowledge, but had to learn the people skills. I’m not sure what Coach Singletary has at this point.

by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

+1

I’ll put you in the century mark

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

excellent work

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dedication, enthusiasm, discipline

Could be a tremendous college coach.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Enlighten me

What redeeming qualities does Singletary offer as a HC that maybe I’m not seeing?

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

he's good at yelling

and i hear he makes a great grilled sandwich

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on Oct 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, the truth is...

The sandwich has potential, and is respected around the league. But lately, it hasn’t performed well and is just barely losing out to taste tests by one point. It only beat a BLT from Oakland that has been inconsistent.
It may be time to switch breads.

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also an excellent clapper.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

yes. But only when we’re getting penalized or downright outplayed.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now

That’s my job.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2010 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting comment

Given that Crennel went 10-6 with the Browns in 2007. With the BROWNS! That’s saying something.

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Belichick was not a failure with the Browns

The team was in turmoil because of the move to Baltimore then they dumped him to start fresh.

by whistlingmountain on Oct 26, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

From what I understand...

Everyone on the Browns detested him so much that his message just wasn’t getting through anymore. He had to go. Belichick did learn from his mistakes. Although his style in New England is still harsh, he apparently hasn’t irritated most players or staff to the point of quitting on him. Belichick’s unusual. A lot of coaches don’t figure out what they need to change, though. See Edwards, Herman, or Phillips, Wade. I see more of them in Singletary than I do of Belichick.

by asleepinSF on Oct 26, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

winning instills confidence too

if the Pats were to go 8-8 a few seasons in a row he’d start to “lose the locker room” too

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

let me rephrase that

now that they’ve won so much under him he’d get more leeway in that regard, but if they had fallen backwards after the first SB for a few seasons I bet the locker room wouldn’t have been so staunch in support of Belichick

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

his players love him

except when it’s time for an extension

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Belichick could ever lose the respect he's earned

Unless he was caught naked on a public bus, sniffing cocaine, screaming obscenities, and burning an American flag.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to be of assistance

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was both in Cleveland

Add in the charisma of Norv Turner was the 3rd strike thrown against him.

by bignerd on Oct 26, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

After observing Sing for the last two seasons as HC, I conclude that he has no HC potential

Very fundamental flaws that can’t be fixed at his ag.

1. Poor communicator: The modern NFL HC is as much has CEO as he is game manager. Management by tirades and rants will not work indefinitely with millionaire players.

2. Obstinate and not at all flexible.

3. Not aware of his own shortcomings. He does not understand the nuances of modern NFL offensive schemes, and worse, has no appreciation of the challenges that such offenses pose. He imposes his views on offense on his coaches.

4. No strategic vision beyond going out and hitting people in the mouth,m no backup plans on personnel. Poor judge of players’ preparedness, especially rookie linemen.

5. Does not appear to be a sufficient quick thinker for appropriate game time tactical decisions, perhaps handicapped by his volatile temperament.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seven

I just really don’t know how much a coach affects the team because I’ve never played on a proper team.

But since you don’t have to know to have an opinion, my feeling is that we can fire Sing and still not solve many problems.

I’ll keep bringing this up because it bothers me, but Wade Phillips is no better a coach than Mike Singletary, except his paycheck comes from “America’s Team”.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Oct 26, 2010 8:34 AM PDT reply actions  

This is true, but I would also give Wade a 1 instead of boosting Sing to 7

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

We are not in this situation because of Sing. But the reality is that he needs to solve it, which we can plainly see has not been remedied.

by mcwagner on Oct 26, 2010 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The time to be delusional is over.

I thought Sing was going to be the new identity of the 49ers. Ha. After the first regular season game that dream was shattered.

You can’t win on will power and might. It also takes game planning and adjustments, which are what coaches are supposed to do. You can’t will Alex Smith to be great, or even to be healthy the full season behind an O-line with two rookies. What was your backup plan? I don’t see one. In fact, I don’t see anything besides blind faith guiding this man. That’s fine for religion, not for football.

by McTee on Oct 26, 2010 8:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I wonder about this.....

Sing still needs some years as a position coach in my opinion. His knowledge of modern X’s and O’s seems to really be lacking. Line-backing or maybe even D-Line coach, but I am not sure he has shown anything to even be considered at D-Coordinator.

I think they gave him a chance as HC in thinking his motivational talk would be enough with good coordinators and personnel people. We have not had good coordinators for some time and our personnel decisions have been up and down. Sing has been set up to fail unfortunately.

by CLS on Oct 26, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

No coaching

I was actually at the game on Sunday. After Carr was put in as the starter and Smith was nowhere to be seen I checked out the sideline to see if i could find Carr meeting with the coaches to go over the offense and what they were going to do in their next drive to win the game. Every time I looked down there Carr was walking around by himself with his helmet in his hand. That is not coaching.

by prmackinn on Oct 26, 2010 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I also hated how after every bad wimpy throw Carr would just walk off the field with a stupid little smirk on his face.

by afrikabamboodle on Oct 26, 2010 9:42 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Revealing

While Johnson was upstairs in the booth, he still should have had some headsets on and be talking to the QB coach.

by DeathValleyCarl on Oct 26, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I couldn’t believe it. The game was literally on the line and they weren’t doing anything to get the offense going with Carr in there. Sure enough we started running the ball and trusting our porous “prevent” defense that gives up first downs every 2 plays at the end of a game.

by prmackinn on Oct 26, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

These coaches aren't beginners - They've done this before but

it seems like while they know how to teach techniques and the playbook, I haven’t seen much game management at all. Once the first drive works and the opponent knows what we want to do, they take it away and no one has a Plan B!! That’s not a game plan – it’s a drive plan.

by DeathValleyCarl on Oct 26, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

One

Doesn’t get much worse than this.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

mediocrity

Would be a major improvement at this point…

by ColoradoNiner on Oct 26, 2010 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

3

I thought long and hard about going with a 1 or 2, but he has done some good things. If he were what’s his name in Buffalo or Jim Zorn in Washington, it’d be a 1, but he’s done better than they did. Still, not good though. No coaching, no adjustments, no strategy, no flash, no plan, not enough wins.

by MSgt Tree on Oct 26, 2010 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

1

Because I like to exaggerate

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

Just to put an exclamation point on your 1!

by McTee on Oct 26, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

1

Same as last vote. 1 for 1 win.

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Game-time adjustments: -1

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

3 because it's well below average

but not the worst possible job I can imagine.

Consider that I’ve never voted below a 5 prior to this though.

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I guess the worst job would be if he started throwing players under the bus

But maybe he’s already doing that inside the locker room.

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Players?

He already threw the whole team under the bus.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

How exactly?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying

by his stubbornness and inability to communicate, strategize, plan, coordinate etc. We’re 1-6 after all…

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not throwing players under the bus

Sure he’s sucked this year, but he hasn’t singled out players for the losses.

He’s not B. Childress.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

if we start seeing 15-yard penalties multiple times in games

players storming around the sidelines, giving rude press conferences and media appearances…

and if we show up like the Titans did last year in London…that’d probably be a tipping point too

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only similarity between the Niners and the 09 Titans at this point in the season is the record

At least we have division games still coming up. I’ll be damned if we lose to the Seahawks again.

Coach Boone: And who's team is this, Gary? Is this your team? Or is this your daddy's team?
Bertier: Yours.
Coach Boone: Now get on the bus. Put on your jacket first and then get on the bus.

by Amigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

i think we will

they’re a better team.

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on Oct 26, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They're not better per se

They’re just playing better

And it pisses me off to no end…

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

only comparing 49ers to Titans in playing in London

beyond that, not the same

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

remember the Pats drubbed the Titans last year in London?

that’s what I meant…if that happens to us heads will probably roll

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It didn't happen in london

Happened in Foxborough.

I kind of feel this team that kind of an ass kicking though.
Get Singletary to admit that the playoffs are out of reach.

Make him stop “tweaking” and “looking at film” and actually take drastic measures to improve the team.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it takes yet another ass beating

for Singletary to step up and do something different, he’s just not cut out for head coaching. He should’ve made some major changes way earlier.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I supopse he should have

that’s why he’ll be fired.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude sucks. Team sucks. 1.

by TDP on Oct 26, 2010 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

its amazing

how people will defend, make excuses for, justify, and irrationally plead FOR YEARS for A Smith..

Singletary cannot make players make plays.
Clearly players from every facet have not made significant plays at signifcant times.
Are they responding to him. Yes. A.Smith’s performance is proof of it.

After watching the raiders, I’ve seen teams give up. The niners are not giving up, they are still playing hard.

He’s a young coach in his 2nd year. Give the man a chance.

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Your delusion for Singletary is similar to their delusion for Smith

There’s more to coaching than making sure your players don’t give up. When you use phrases like “are they responding to him. yes” it just makes it very clear that he’s not actually doing anything. Coaches don’t just get players to respond. They need to put them in position to win. This entire coaching staff doesn’t do that.

by whistlingmountain on Oct 26, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

give specifics

instead of blanket criticisms such “he’s not doing anything”
what changes do you suggest he should make?

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

He is not capable of making changes

He has to trust his coordinators to do it, and they’re not.

You can’t fire both coordinators and hire new ones for your head coach the next year because you like him.

He is a motivational speaker, and as you said, motivation is not what the players are lacking. Aside from talent at a few key positions they’re lacking in technique, game plans, and in-game adjustments. Things the head coach and coordinators are responsible for.

by whistlingmountain on Oct 26, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

wait a second

he did fire a coordinator already who clearly wasnt getting the job done.

the next one came in is doing better, is mixing things up.

If you agree that motivation isnt what they’re lacking (and no interview, tweet suggests otherwise) Sing is still getting them up and ready to play..

My point about Sing talking to Smith wasnt so much about motivating, as keeping accountable. I think he did that there, and honestly it seems he needs more of that, although I dont see or hear what goes on at 49ers hq.

What game plans are you talking about? Its not like the D this time went to the “prevent you from winning” scheme at the end. They actually blitzed and moore hit his reciever open down field.
The players were in position but the pass was better, it didnt appear players didnt know where to go—so I dont think you can pin that on coaching.
They were outplayed, not outcoached.

I think the pink elephant in the room that no one dares talk about is this: what if the niners 10 version is simply poor as a collective whole?

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alex is hurt

I actually blame all the coaches, front office people, and Paraag for not bringing in a back-up plan in case Smith failed or got hurt.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

3 -- I'm sticking with my earlier rating

Same blunders. He does not adapt, adjust or learn. My best rating last year was a 7 because he deserved to be cut some slack in his first year.

But I’ve held the rating at 3 since the middle of last quarter of the Kansas City game when he has Gore and SMith playing in a game that was over, and got Morgan hurt on a meaningless TD.

Lack of a GM is no excuse for the lousy job by the coaching staff. Team is inadequately coached and adrift.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 26, 2010 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

2 - ready for a change

Proud member of the legendary David Carr thread and the famous Green Thread.

by LondonNiner on Oct 26, 2010 10:15 AM PDT reply actions  

if two or three of our games

heck even the last game goes a different direction with a bounce of the ball, an referree call, or made play—- people on here would be giving him high scores.

the fact is, us fans are emotional, and irrational.
A win the man’s a saint, All these losses the man’s the devil incarnate.

I’ll be the first to admit the stammering of I’ve got to look at the film has gotten old. But seriously, what’s he supposed to say, “Good question, our guys really stunk it up out there and we are not the confident team we started the season as, and now my mercurial starting qb is even out, and I dont know if Im getting canned by the team president next week.”

What is going on here is our reaction to how the Team is doing.

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

And what a reasonably talented team does on the field on a consistent basis is a direct reflection of the coaching staff’s competence.

Contrary to some folks’ observations, the Niners are getting their share of luck bounces as the season progresses and random events average out,

These days, the Niners winning is like a dog walking on its hind legs. It rare and ugly, but one is surprised that it can happen at all. Niners don’t play 60 minutes like a pro team.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 26, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Niners don’t play 60 minutes like a pro team.

ok not reinvent painful memories for you..but how exactly much are they playing?
30 minutes? 59 1/2?

My point is it is easy to say were losing therefore our coach sucks.

What should he do differently this next game? What specifically? With the (cough) talent that he has?

We all agreed that the Rayegun was shooting blanks, finally Sing saw that and did something about it. That’s a positive. You never want to fire your OC midseason—its usually a recipe for disaster (see previous niner head OC firings and results) But he knew they had to open things up.
They still only scored one touchdown. You cannot win when your starting offense can only put up a single td a game, and a few field goals.
What is he suppossed to do?!
I dont want to hear cliches and hindsights.
Give specifics. If you were the coach what would you do today?

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have a causality disgreement here

You think that we feel that the coaches suck because the Niners are losing.

Some of us that the Niners are losing because that coaching is inadequate, the approach to the game is flawed, the player management style is wrong, and game time decisions are poor.

Arguing as how many minutes Niners are playing will not resolve this fundamental disagreement.

Singletary has made way too many wrong decision starting from scaring off competent OCs to getting a backup QB in whom no one i nthe coaching staff appears to have any confidence. These actions more than offset his good decisions, which are confined mostly to motivating players like VD and cutting deadwood like Balmer. Even now MJ does not have a free hand with the offense, going by his Thursday interviews.

If I was a coach, I’d not take charge of the train wreck that is now the Niners at this time with Smith injured, and the frustrated players increasingly close to giving up on the season (Spikes’ interview).

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 26, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

ok ...

so you’d give up? Great. that makes me like Sing a little more. At least he sticking it out which is more than we can say for michael lewis.

Can you give Sing a little credit for doing what others (including yourself) wouldnt even do—persevere through difficult circumstances?

On the main point, do you honestly think you’d be posting this if the niners were 3-4?
Saying yeah we need a brand new coaching staff, because even though they’re winning—-does that make any sense? No. If they were winning we’d be fine still dreaming about the post season.

You claim Sing’s “approach to the game is wrong”? Can you clarify, what does this mean?
the player management style is wrong? First you seem to agree that “motivating” Smith was good, now its wrong? What are you basing this accusation on?

What specific game time decisions are wrong from last game—oh and not the ones that we ALL see 20-20 in hindsight?

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW

a causality disagreement would have been:

the 49ers suck because the coaches all suck

the 49ers suck because the players suck.

The problem with this view is that last year we had essentially the same coaches and players and performed at 8-8
this year we are performing at 1-6

the coaching philosophy outside of maybe special teams hasnt changed—(unless you count changing to MJ which would actually boost this argument) and I didnt hear the thunder rally for heads to roll last year—did you?

by 11allstar on Oct 26, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

MJ Interview

Is there a link to that interview? Where does it indicate in there that he’s constrained by Singletary? I’m not challenging you or anything, just curious how much Johnson is really running the show and how much Singletary is telling him what to do

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 26, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I give him a 10

I just love clown shows, those guys crack me up. I’d like to see them wear those honking noses and juggle those yellow hankies.

My favorite drinking game is based on the 9ers. 1 drink for a dive on first down, 2 drinks for a dive on 2nd down, 3 drinks on 3rd, 4 drinks for a dive play on 3rd and long. The winner is whomever makes it past halftime.

This next Sunday is going to be brutal, the coaches don’t trust Carr to throw the ball. I’m not sure my drinking game is going to go well. The clowns should be fun to watch though. GO NINERS!!!

by Pat Willie on Oct 26, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions  

i can just hear

frank sinatra singing send in the clowns when the 9ers take the field. i gave sing a 1. he’s horrible and incompetent. i hope we fired him after the london game even if we win.

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on Oct 26, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly medicated

Read above post to the melody of “I Smoke 2 Joints…”

by DeathValleyCarl on Oct 26, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

The sad part is...

…that I am not.
 You don’t have to take any mind altering drugs to see this team is a clown show.

by Pat Willie on Oct 26, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't give him more than a 3.

I still like the guy, but losing to Carolina is inexcusable.

"If you can accept losing, you can't win." ~Vince Lombardi
Tweet Tweet.

by ZeroIndulgence on Oct 26, 2010 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

What the hell is this?

First time the Singletary Approval shows up in ages, and the choices are divided in 10 instead of the simple Yes/No ?

Should have drafted Sanchez.

by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2010 11:38 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

last week

We brought it back last week and changed it to 1 to 10 (as mentioned in the first sentence of the post). Here’s last week’s post.

by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

But it still seems like a cop-out,

to suddenly include the “shades of gray” after the losing began and the first truly terrible stretch of Singletary’s tenure got set in motion, especially after not having it that way for the last year and a half.

Should have drafted Sanchez.

by Fearless Frog on Oct 26, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

cop-out?

I forgot to do the approval ratings for a while and had been thinking of changing it anyways. A lot of people wanted to see it changed to something to include shades of gray. I don’t see what the big deal is. This gives us a better idea of how people feel. If you think it’s a cop-out, that’s life.

by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

rating

It’s not like this is some kind of super scientific poll.

by David Fucillo on Oct 26, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like it better like this

Lets us see to what degree Sing is hated now.

Lots of really low votes up there.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Voted a 3

That’s how I feel, right now, with the staff that we have. I guess, right now, to give you an honest answer, I’m going to have to look at the film and go from there. I mean, Mike Singletary is our guy for now. I think as coaches, they have to do a better job knowing that they have rookies, a lot of rookies, and just making sure that everybody is on the same page; and they need to do better with that. The biggest thing, right now, in the game, that they need to realize is they need to execute, hit em in the mouth with smashmouth coaching. I mean, this guy, has some of the tools but isn’t quite where we want him to be. So to answer your question, right now, how do I feel about Sing? I’m going to have to look at the film and see what was there.

"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi

by Haggardninja on Oct 26, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

incidentally, that timeout at the end of the Iowa game was ludicrous. They were lined up to spike it. Absolutely cost us the game

This team needs some real leadership from its players.
Nitwitter

by Tre9er on Oct 26, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree with you more.

I couldn’t believe that happened. I have no idea what Ferenz was thinking. Stanzi also blew it by passing to Robinson where he did and Robinson should have just not caught the pass. He had to reach for it to catch it even. It was a really good game, back and forth scoring, but I didn’t like the end result. That fake punt was huge. Unbelieveable.

"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi

by Haggardninja on Oct 26, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

we need to find a way to Tie these close games.

Our record would look way better with 3 ties on it

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 26, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sing was never the DC. He was the linebackers coach.

"I don't know what feels worse than an interception... I don't know... Probably someone burning an American flag would hurt a little more, inside, than an interception. I don't know man, that'd be pretty bad." - Ricky Stanzi

by Haggardninja on Oct 26, 2010 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he should move on

Sing would make an excellent college coach.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 26, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

High school

Preferably a league that doesn’t pass much.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

Nah, he’ll do well in College.

I can see him being a great recruiter

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

he needs to stop praying for answers cause his prayers have gotten us 1-6.

by hendeeze on Oct 26, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions  

0 he really sucks period shouldn’t even be in the NFL. There’s probably a McDonalds in the Chicago area that’s hiring.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Oct 26, 2010 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree with that.

I wouldn’t even want to hear his BS motivational speeches either. I wouldn’t beleive a thing he’s saying considering what I now know about his personality.

by mr. instigator on Oct 26, 2010 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He sealed his fate by losing to Carolina - 2

- After opening impressively or a TD, the offense stalled due to conservative play calling (even before Smith got injured) and could only score another 6 points the rest of the game.
- Defense gave up over 300 passing yards to Matt Moore. Matt freaking Moore ???
- 3 takeaways and we STILL lost?
- 11 Penalties: inexcusable
- Carr completely unprepared to take over the offense and zero coaching between series.
- Singletary yelling at players whenever anything went wrong.
- Singletary chewing out the Officials to the point that they started calling penalties the Panthers’ way.
- Singletary with no answer except: “I need to see them film” when asked about his team’s sorry performance.

by suffrin9erfan on Oct 26, 2010 10:29 PM PDT reply actions  

2....

But I’m thinking I should have voted 1. 10 possible points, we’re in the bottom tenth of the league. When asked earlier how much of the blame he feels he shoulders, Singletary said “all of it”. Pretty hard for me to give him any more credit than he gives himself.

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 26, 2010 10:47 PM PDT reply actions  

reply fail

down and to the left should be here. whoops

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 26, 2010 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

I’m thinking maybe “We Look at Film”

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 26, 2010 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I would praise you if you did that.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Oct 27, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

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