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San Francisco 49ers 14, Atlanta Falcons 16: Grade Mike Johnson's Performance

So that's that, then. The 49ers are now 0-4 and I don't know what needs to change. Well, I do to an extent - guys need to stop making mental errors. Nate Clements has to protect the ball in that situation and Alex Smith has to minimize those mistakes. Watching Smith really is a schizophrenic undertaking, the guy can take a snap and look fantastic scanning the field, stepping up, and delivering a strike. Or, he can look completely lost out there and make a completely boneheaded throw. Or, again, he can look very good with a ton of pressure in his face. It's maddening.

But how about the coaching? Singletary appeared to put together a solid effort going into this game, with Manusky doing so-so on defense, mostly talking about the final minute on that front, but what about offensive coordinator Mike Johnson?

I wasn't here for the entirety of the game, so I don't know if there were any struggles, but I saw some pretty good play-calling in the fourth when I tuned in. Let's try not to place blame unless it's warranted, though, I know the game just ended and volatile reactions are more than expected at this point, but honestly, how would you grade Johnson?

From play-calling, to the overall gameplan, his ability to attack certain parts of the defense and the personnel utilized - how do you grade new offensive coordinator Mike Johnson?

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Smith didn’t play well
Mike Johnson did a really good job of calling plays. Using different personnell, getting the ball to different people—I’d give him a B. I don’t think he reacted well at half time—it felt like he didn’t adjust well to the defense. The two best driver were early in the first and early in the 4th quarter and they were both pretty good drives.

The ball moved, but you can’t expect wins when you don’t score for 3 quarters.

by smileyman on Oct 3, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Another coaching flop

Manusky decides not to blitz with the other team standing in their end zone?? Coach manusky went soft and Matt Ryan got his time to pick them apart in the 4th qrt. Clements, gets all Leon Lett with the football, excuse me..the win in his hands. Michael Lewis quits the team!?!

How is it that this singletary staff can appear to be all discipline and accountability. Yet, they play football at times like a team removed from the game’s situation. If singletary can’t produce crisp organized team play by thumping his chest, what use is he? We need a game time coach.

There are no excuses for 0-4

J GO

by youngbuckeroo on Oct 3, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

The first sentence I agree with completely

Bizarre. Doesn’t just not blitz… Only brings 3 guys?!?!?! WTF!?!?!?11 AHGHGAGKASJGALKHGHGDKLHGAKLDSJGLDKSGHDS"KGH"GKHASDSDGKH

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They blitzed

On the 3rd down conversion to Douglas. So, blitzing actually didn’t work. After the INT the defense was completely gassed. Blitzing likely would not have helped.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 3, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watch again

They did not blitz when they had them in their own eNd zone. You don’t send 3 you say 4 you send 7

J GO

by youngbuckeroo on Oct 3, 2010 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't adjust well? I have a hard time figuring out where that assesment came from.

He has to call passing plays and the QB did not make the right reads. Gore missed a key blitz pickup, and the OL wasn’t very good run blocking. Smith made a key audible early, but he never audibled to a screen which was there all day, the falcons were very aggressive all day. I thought his gameplan after 1 week was pretty good. Only reason he didn’t get an A, is because we didn’t produce enough scoring wise, although I don’t totally blame him. but, i will say he didn’t adjust the offense to the blitzes.

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by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gore

He didn’t miss a blitz pick-up that play was a double screen. Fake to the WR and then come back to the other side for Gore underneath, Gore was headed straight to the flats.

Alex said all this and said he knew the blitz was coming, LB make a great play, not much else to say…

by Virginia9er on Oct 3, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why l Give Johnson An A+

First Of All,

1) This was a road game and the pressure was on our new OC -He risked using different personnal.
2) His got a mediocre QB like Alex Smith so has to play to his limits -Did Well.
3)He used the whole field and kept ATL Guessing.
4)Our Defense plays a better Offensive Game Than ALEX & Co.
5) Seriously Don’t blame Nate Clements for doing what he did -Shows he has No Confidence With Alex Smith & The Ball!!!

by London_9er on Oct 4, 2010 2:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logic Fail

Clements was only worrying about himself. If he was REALLY worried about the team, he would have run out of bounds or just hit the deck with the ball. We didn’t need to score there, we were already winning. We would have had the ball in the red zone with what, 50 seconds left?

I do agree that MJ called a good game and at this point, I think the blame rests on Alex for not executing.

Officially joining the "Alex Smith Sucks" bandwagon

by return2greatness on Oct 4, 2010 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Logic fail

You can read minds now? You know exactly what he was thinking? I don’t care if you say Nate was careless, but to say he was elfish was just dumb.

by Badly Browned on Oct 4, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK

So maybe he wasn’t being selfish.. but saying that he was trying to score because he has no condifence in Alex doesn’t make any sense either.

Officially joining the "Alex Smith Sucks" bandwagon

by return2greatness on Oct 4, 2010 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, considering we didn't get blown out the way San Fran did the first 2 road games...

i’d have to say this was an improvement. we’re 0 – 4, yeah, but we still got 12 games left & Philly next week @ home. look on the bright side guys, the latter half of our schedule is a little easier, so there’s time to turn it around…

by Doni S on Oct 4, 2010 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

C+

I think the fact that it’s not jimmy raye (F) may make people rate it a little higher, but the 49ers scored only 1 touchdown on offense today…

Yes, Smith made some soul-crushing INT, but when the offense only scores 1 TD with often-decent QB play you can’t really say it was a well called game.

Much more optimistic with Johnson at OC though.

by brundylop on Oct 3, 2010 2:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I almost gave it a B-

but we did a good job moving the ball and we had 30 min TOP which is pretty good for this team. There was no horrible mismatch like there normally is

by smileyman on Oct 3, 2010 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think MJ called good plays and switched it up well..

but Smith didn’t execute and frankly, he played like shit.

Officially joining the "Alex Smith Sucks" bandwagon

by return2greatness on Oct 3, 2010 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

There was nothing wrong with the play calling. He spread out the defense and gave the team a shooting chance. Alex just sucks so bad, I’m so done watching him play QB

by jonesin25 on Oct 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is Matt Ryan even worse?

Cause Smith outplayed him and was more accurate

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I said it on the other thread

Spot Matt Ryan a 14 point lead and the Falcons win 35-7

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you're saying the game clinching interception he threw

wasn’t him making a bigger mistake than either of Alex’s??

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is saying that Ryan..

at home, spotted 14, would have added 2 more TDs. He is right.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ryan playing @ SF

It’s not much of reach since the same scenario happened last season with Falcons winning 45-10

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes, good point.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had Shaun Smith and Lewis as a SS.

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by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaun hill I mean.

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by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shaun Smith sounds right though

Smith didn’t seem like he was confident. He paniced several times that I saw including the interception to Gore and he didn’t look at the DB who was right between him and Morgan.

"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"

by Eastbayjim on Oct 3, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I gave him a '' F '' and i didn't see all of the game but i went on the 1 TD factor we jumped

out to that lead on the road and manage not to put anything else but that i know it was to harsh but not even being able to put 2 or 3 field goals at the least.Im done with alex and his back-up singers the ’’forgivers’bench him and see if carr can drive this offense lol !!! ( like that drive this carr okay its corny lol)

by 49er_diva_recieva's on Oct 3, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

A-

It looked good the offense made careless mistakes to not score points.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 2:28 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

This whole is too big to claw out of... now is the time to fix the QB situation.

I dont have a the slightest idea how, but i know it involves smith not on the field.

by IRONxMIKE on Oct 3, 2010 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Er

how does this relate to Mike Johnson’s performance? This comment is better made in the recap thread

by smileyman on Oct 3, 2010 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

smileyman

just because youre an alex smith jockstrap holder doesnt mean you can take away other’s first ammendment rights.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol that was funny but smiley admits he sticks up for alex pretty much everybody has

atleast one player he sticks up for just hate to hear people gripe about alex but as soon as you mention carr’s name its ‘’oh hell naw’’well thats it might as well deal with it n to me i feel like why not were 0-4 the time for cockyness is over.

by 49er_diva_recieva's on Oct 3, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you don't see us going on a 4game winning streak leading into the bye maybe if we benched alex

and let carr ’’steer’’this offense.( heres a nice game hom many ways can you use carr and some sort of automobile refrence sounds good? )

by 49er_diva_recieva's on Oct 3, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where are Westbrook and Dixon?

I thought the whole point of having these three different RBs is to keep the defense off balance and have more weapons but not exactly useful if they don’t see the field.

Dixon is at least a bigger target for Alex to miss.

by ZeroOneInfinity on Oct 3, 2010 2:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Good point, nearly every team that is beating us features 2 backs

They shouldn’t worry about bruising Gore’s ego by giving him fewer touches, play Dixon or Westbrook as #2.

by suffrin9erfan on Oct 3, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or bruising him-

He’s been injured more than once in the past few seasons. Give him a breather whether he wants it or not. His job is to run the ball- he does it well. It’s not his job to say how much he plays.

by (site decorum) on Oct 4, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

not too bad, well the play calling

don’t know why first play they called gore up the middle. mj did ok moving the ball around. alex blew the game with his picks and grounding call which took them out of fg position. if nate could have held onto that pick we would be 1-3. well 0-4 sucks and don’t remember last time we sucked soo bad. god help us! we got to stop these turnovers and beating ourselves.

by mrb24 on Oct 3, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

no because people are generally retarded.

I thought that for about 15 seconds then realized he was taking a 8 or 9 yard sack anyways.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's Jim Mora...

who was spewing that silly noise at the TV audience. Then everyone picks it up and repeats it totally uncritically. People do stuff like that with politics all the time. Now you know why this country is so screwed up.

by asleepinSF on Oct 3, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Play calling was

Jimmy Raye was NOT our Future!

by SoDak9er on Oct 3, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

post fail.

play calling was solid and diversified, Johnson can’t make them execute. Overall, I thought the plays run did a much better job of keeping an aggressive ATL defense off-balance. Still a sucky loss, though.l

Jimmy Raye was NOT our Future!

by SoDak9er on Oct 3, 2010 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was OK..

But I can see why he hasn’t been willing to take too many deep shots.

RAT! with a "W"!

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

why drummer why?

I feel sorry for Raye, he was fired becase he had a qb that can make one downfield throw. Right down the middle. Any 3 deep zone will make alex panic.

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by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

B

This was a case of tthe game plan doing good but the players failed to deliver. we were litterally 3 turnovers from being dominant again. The only thing this team did today was earn another game from me at this point. which is usually the hole we dig ourselves in again and again. they always seem to play to the level of the team they go against and find a way to loose. its depressing, i look at them and see such a good team that cant win and the ball never falls there way. Its like our loosing is more to blame on bad luck that anything else. but MJ put us back in the right direction at least. we will see next week i guess.

by DCSMITH722 on Oct 3, 2010 2:58 PM PDT reply actions  

+1, We have given away 3 games and lost 1

San Francisco should be 3 and 1 right now. KC actually outplayed us. But all 3 of the other games, we gave away. We should have won each. I thought it was a toss up between Raye and Smith or both causing it. But after today, I think Smith should have been on the same bus as Raye. At the beginning of the season, I thought it would be dumb to bench him prior to the end of the season, now, I think if we don’t bench Smith, we may be looking at our best draft pick in the offseason since drafting him.

by AKinferno on Oct 3, 2010 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike Johnson can't throw the ball for Alex Smith

The playcalling wasn’t bad. But Jim Mora said it best on those interceptions….how is a sixth year player still make mistakes like that??? The first interception was the worst, because we could’ve gotten into FG position!

by axelfoley on Oct 3, 2010 3:02 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

+ inifinity

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by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1million

after being handed a great lead. the Alex Smith led team crumbles into moronic, self defeating patheticness.

The remaining pink elephant in the living room everyone is tip toeing around is Smith—but still ther’ll be morons to defend him.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

VERY WELL SAID! Sad to say, but our beloved d-fense will tire soon! To much time on the field!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, insulting people who aren't attacking you makes you look really smart.

/extreme sarcasm

I survived the David Carr Press Conference Thread 3/06/2010
Credit to iaalexeeff

The New and Improved Bay Area Connections:
Alex Smith to Michael Crabtree
Stephen Curry to David Lee
Madison Bumgarner to Gerald Buster "Jesus" Posey

by Hoopers Judge on Oct 3, 2010 7:56 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

seriously..

shaun hill woulda been better.

by ksab24 on Oct 3, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

2 ints 2 td

He threw the ball to Calvin Johnson about 15 times. Thats how he gets his TDs.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably but they don't

and Calvin Johnson is better than both of them, by a lot

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hill pulls the trigger, Smith does’nt! I’m not saying he would be better than Smith in frisco, but he is doing better overall!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has better playmakers

Most of his yards consist of him throwing the ball behind the line of scrimmage and watching his player run.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course they would! They’re productive wen they get the ball 4-5 times in a game! 15 would definitly put them in the end zone!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s thrown more td’s than Smith! I don’t care if he throws the ball to VD 1000 times, as long as he scores!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

34/54

basically he played catch up the whole game

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

also he had a fumble too

so more turnovers than Smith as well

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

C?

I’d give the man more credit, but there was no win in the end. No one can take any credit on this offense (or this team, for that manner) until the conclusion of a game where more points sit with the “SF” than the opponent, and not a minute earlier. Its like looking at the schedule and saying “Hey, look: if we can pull out wins on our homestand and heading across the pond, maybe we’ll still have a shot at 10-6 coming out of the bye week at .500” Its possible, but not feasible and really discussable, until a complete effort culminates in even a single win.

In my opinion, Johnson might have done a good job, but I don’t think any accurate grades can be made until the “Win” comes. Until that time, its a winless squad bereft of success, and only more errors that must be addressed come out of this loss – just like with the last 3.

The line must be drawn HERE...

by Ranger10 on Oct 3, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

B

…this is killing me

Beat Em To The Punch - Bill Walsh

by Desi on Oct 3, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Ah

I gave a C. I mean, really, still way too many runs up the gut on first down.

I have felt prior to today that the offense has been undercoached and too conservative, as per Raye and Singletary. Maybe they are just not that talented. Maybe having Alex Smith as quarterback, or two rookie linemen, just is too much to overcome.

Midway through the fourth quarter I just knew that this was going to end badly because they hadn’t scored an offensive touchdown since the first drive. Even when Clements intercepted that ball and was running towards the end zone my mind was saying, “How are they going to eff it up.” And then they effed it up.

In some ways I wish that Alex Smith got his bell rung, something, just so we could see how Carr would do. I don’t remember him constantly throwing him or some of the other stuff that Smith does.

I dunno.

I feel so hopeless about this team.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 3:17 PM PDT reply actions  

For me its more frustrating than hope because we have a good team its just that they just shoot themselves in the foot but yeah I have given up on Smith.

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by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

the two interceptions were bad enough

but then the intentional grounding when we needed a field goal. Argh.

by Evanz on Oct 3, 2010 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

For the three millionth time

if he had taken the sack we’d be out of field goal range

by smileyman on Oct 3, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

he could have thrown it away sooner

or scrambled outside the tick marks and thrown it away.

by Evanz on Oct 3, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the defender would be a gentleman and let him do just that. Its not like the guy was going full speed at him

by mcwagner on Oct 3, 2010 8:02 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Audible, it was easy to see, we couln't block that side of the formation.

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by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well at least the cards are getting destroyed so we won’ t have to deal with any trolls

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by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

7 points and a loss

Grade “F” mostly for staying within Jimmy Rayes game calling and not changing out the failure Quarterback. He would’ve earned a “D” if he called plays to protect from turnovers, knowing Alex was going to throw picks. He really should’ve known Alex would throw those picks. The coaches act as if they happen magically, out of nowhere. Also there was absolutely no second half adjustments, as usual.

by Pat Willie on Oct 3, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions  

No

The offense moved up and down the field. The play calling wasn’t predictable. The execution was poorly done. Every single one of our starters were included into the game which meant that the Defense had to cover every single inch of the field. What more could you want from a play caller.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Screens with blockers

midrange passes, use of the sideline, deep hooks, crossing routes, play action instead of back to back to back dives. Roll outs that give Alex a chance to run if needed. The play calling was still predictable enough. It just wasn’t dive every play. Also I mostly hold the coaches responsible for Alex Smith’s interceptions. Mike Johnson has been the QB coach all this time, and he still gives Alex the opportunity to throw the game away.

by Pat Willie on Oct 3, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

hahaha

you seriously hold the coach responsible for Alex smith’s stupid ass plays! Unbelievable. I cant even post a response to this idiocy.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alex is HIS man

Who’s in charge anyhow?

"Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling." Master Takeo

by riderless on Oct 3, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

the coach

isnt a frickin pupetter or controlling the qb like a friggin xbox game you dolts—-he put him in position to succeed with a great called game.

Its up to the QB TO DO HIS PART. WHAT is SO hard to understand about that?

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That you think playing QB with a perfectly called game is easy. Its not xbox where he can see the whole field.
The pass as he was getting sacked was GREAT awareness

by mcwagner on Oct 3, 2010 7:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes they did!

Yes they did move the ball better! The fact still remains, Alex will always kill 1 or 2 critical drives! Maybe thats why the defense will always try to get points off of turnovers!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hopeful that with another week of practice...

They can get the execution issues ironed out. The play calling was improved. The 49ers did a better job of moving the ball. Now, they just need to increase the complexity of the WR routes so they stop getting jumped on…

by sigma on Oct 3, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Physciatrist??

Dear Sigma:
   You need some help!! And so do the 49ers….I have been a fan since the early 60’s but when the niners are bad, you can’t say they are “improved” from a few weeks of terrible football….the new OC still sucks!! IF you watched the game did you see the part where he called 5 running plays in a row for frank gore?? Is that what you call being “creative??”
One touchdown per game is good?? Singletary & Co. should go…..maybe that Schotenheimer guy might be okay because of his breeding??

by george l on Oct 3, 2010 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Grade F

ManraJ7
   If you watched the game fool, did you see the 5 run plays called in a row? OR….were you to busy eating popcorn and drinking beer to watch The play calling sucked!!! The ex-niner coach said the play calling looked good and the Falcons defense had to cover every inch of the field, which is ridiculous!!! That’s why he’s not coaching anymore fool!!!

by george l on Oct 3, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

But those running plays actually got good yardage so whats the problem?

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by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

17 possible points! 2 interceptions,1 ground’n! WOW! The play calling was ok, but when Alex keeps making these BONEHEAD mistakes, it won’t matter! I saw the game, defense played well. Alex needs to go!!!! Taking the sack would of been better, we punt push them back, and maybe our defense holds’em! An interception is never good!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

A

The defense was on their heels most of the game. Evident the 49ers don’t have a QB who can deliver a knockout blow.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Or an O-Line that can really protect him in key situations...

But Smith did not look sharp today. Neither did Matt Ryan for that matter. Today’s game was defined by the defenses…

by sigma on Oct 3, 2010 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why didn't Smith look sharp?

1) He had competent play calling
2) He had a running game
3) The offensive line played well
4) His receivers played well
5) He got a strong defensive effort
6) He was given 7 points off special teams
7) He was given a 14 point lead, early momentum and minimal crowd noise.
8) He didn’t play a strong defense

Starting QBs win those games. Backup level QBs make it close leaving it for the defense to win it in the end. This game was the most damning evidence of all against Smith. I’m sure this one convinced the 49ers to not bring him back, if couldn’t win this one than he isn’t the answer.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

The o-line was questionable at times. Rachal DID get pulled, after all.

by See Jay on Oct 3, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes they did! Alex has enough time to pull the trigger, but he is throwing to Gore most of the time! MEANING: He looks at his 1st, 2nd, 3rd reciever before he dumps to Gore! The O-line is giv’n him plenty of time, he needs to pull the trigger!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dumping off to your checkdown

is not the universal sign that you’ve had all the time in the world. On the contrary, those throws are often made when the qb doesn’t have time for things to develop downfield or to make all his reads.

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 3, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The O-Line did not play well

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 4, 2010 12:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really

I’ve defended Alex Smith in the past. I’ve repeated all the truths. No talent around him (in the first years), some of the most horrible offensive coordinators ever (Hostler, Raye). He had injuries.

All good quarterbacks at a certain point excel, rise above. Smith, at that point when he needs to excel always manages to sink.

Six years.

After his is over Alex can, if he wants, point fingers at what fate dealt him at SF. But so can the coaches.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Smith explains interceptions...
Smith continued to blame his two interceptions on himself, saying they were costly and that they were bad decisions. Smith said on the first one, he should have taken a sack instead of throwing high to running back Frank Gore. On the second one, Smith thought the safety was going to follow Vernon Davis across the field. Instead he stopped and stepped in front of Josh Morgan for the pick.

from the Chronicle

I posted it below, but I didn’t know if you’ve seen it yet.

by sigma on Oct 3, 2010 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not the mistakes

It’s that he cannot make plays to put points on the board

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

well

i think you have a point but its many things that all point to the QB impacting the game negatively at critical times:

either ineptness at making big plays (passes downfield to crabs & morgan)

stupid first year player mistakes (throwing too high, interceptions, roll out give ups on plays)

or lack of decision making (play clock running out, inability to call many audibles, recognize defenses, consistent scrambling)

He has done all three fairly consistently causing the offense to self destruct.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Instead he stopped and stepped in front of Josh Morgan for the pick.

Even I would’ve stopped if I saw him stare at Morgan for as long as he did!!

by sundaysfinest on Oct 3, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

forgot to include that one under the Stupid First Year Mistake categories.

honestly the painful thing to watch was the hightlights from the GB game of Aaron Rodgers making an assortment of passes to his recievers. It was like adding insult to injury.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn't see that game did you?

Rodgers was 12 of 17 with 2 Ints against the Lions.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yellow journalism?

and he ALSO SCORED 3 TD’s and HIS TEAM WON

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t Alex beat the Lions last year

by mcwagner on Oct 3, 2010 7:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

matt ryan

looked sharp when it counted…the last two drives if you will—he hit wide recievers DOWNFIELD and he led an ACCURACTE surgical drive of the niners defense attacking zone and man to man —i know these are qb areas us niner fans havent experienced with our current qb—but still youre wrong in your assessment of their performance being the same.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

He threw a game clinching interception

I don’t know how you define that as surgical.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

matt ryan sucked too. don't even try to say he was better than smith

manusky gave him the chance to lead a game winning drive. manusky is a joke, sack him

by TeeKay89 on Oct 3, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

you are right

turner ran the last eight times putting them in field goal position.

No doorknob, matt ryan didnt suck. he led the team all the way back from the 7 yard line and into field goal position when he was behind.

When is the last time Alex smith led his team on a game winning drive you tool?

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

guess you forgot what

WINNING means…i understand you haven’t seen a whole lot of that..no don’t hold it against yourself..really.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess you forgot that the defense lost that game for Smith

not the other way around. Its ok I don’t blame you for your stupidity

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forget

It’s also Alex Smith’s fault that Baas threw the ball over his head. He also put Walker in a terrible situation with the ball inside the Saints’ 10 yard line where he could EASILY fumble. He also put the defense in a terrible situation by leaving too much time on the clock. Alex Smith lost that game because he’s the QB of the 49ers. If the 49ers lose, it’s Alex’ fault.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there enough evidence now that this guy needs to be banned.

Needlessly insulting people doesn’t make you look good at all.

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by Hoopers Judge on Oct 3, 2010 8:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

B

MJ gave some different looks today and that’s exactly what I was hoping to see. I was also hoping to see more of Davis….especially after that great touchdown. But we did go to Crabs enough to make me think things are a changing….recongizing matchups. Jimmy Raye….you paying attention? So that part was good.

The bad: we really need to use our weapons more aggressively. i know it’s hard when your QB sucks and makes horrible descissions (more on that), but you gotta keep pushing. We also need to see more Dixon/Westbrook plain and simple. Gore is a workhorse, but he does have backup….we NEED to use that talent we have stacked in that possition. Does Gore feel threatened or something? If so, he really shouldn’t. But I have to say MJ is a definate improvement over Jimmy Raye.

Back to Smith. I find it funny how most people (writers/announcers) always echo the fact that he’s such a smart QB. He always makes horrible choices in situations when things breakdown….and even times when the play doesn’t breakdown. My opinion of a smart QB is someone who can execute the game plan, but also be able to audible and IMPROVISE when he needs to. And when he does try to come up with something….he almost always makes a bonehead decision. How is that smart? To me Alex is a “book smart” guy with absolutely ZERO “street smarts”.

by fornineintheSB on Oct 3, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw alot of the same..

Pretty much everything about that game was the same old mistakes and gameplay. The plays were not inspired, the players lost hope in the second half.

by Pat Willie on Oct 3, 2010 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

True!

Smith never looks sharp!!!!!!! He has little moments and thats it! His recievers and Gore are really busting their asses to make plays! Smith is a YAK buster, rarely throws a great pass! I’m sick of the guy!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't see West brook so he get's a C ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 3, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he was out there for 1 play, then Smith called a timeout.....

Coach, we cant have Westbrook in, that would confuse the D, it even confused me!

by sundaysfinest on Oct 3, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looked to me like...

The timeout got called because somebody, probably Westbrook, was lined up wrong and hopelessly befuddled. That could be a clue as to why we’re not seeing more Westbrook.

by asleepinSF on Oct 3, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

+5

Exactly what happened. Westbrook lined up right and should have been left. Wasted a TO. Maybe he’ll get more PT when he learns his play book.

by Jaxson876 on Oct 3, 2010 7:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is Westbrook not picking up the offense?

Gee, is the offense, which seems so bland, so hard to pick up?

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gave Johnson a B, but clock running out on Smith

I’ve been a supporter of Smith’s, but it’s pretty hard to justify continuing that faith at this point. Thought Johnson called a pretty good game, but he can’t throw make the read and throw the ball for Smith. So bummed out by this game. multiple opportunities to win, and the ‘niners let it slip away. it’s been said by others on these boards. just adding my (depressed) voice to the chorus. I don’t even know what to root/hope for next week. This team is a colossal let down.

by mwright84 on Oct 3, 2010 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Give MJ a solid B

He couldn’t completely revamp the playbook- that would have been a disaster. I think he did very well with what he had, and will do better as he gradually makes the Offense his own. Lack of execution killed us, mainly smith. Gore , Crabtree, VD, Morgan, even the O line stepped it up. I even think the D did well ( look, if the offense scores more than once a game, then any mistake they made is not soo magnified). But when the crap pass and INTs get in the way, it’s too much. I’m cringing even on handoffs and pitches! I hope this gets solved before we lose our core of playmakers….

by Joe-mo on Oct 3, 2010 4:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Voted B

mostly because some of the calls were a little retarded. I mean, HB Draw on 2nd and 22? Really?

by See Jay on Oct 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Sometimes that leads to huge plays

Because the D is thinking pass and they run it and the RB gets a huge gain.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sometimes

IIRC they were backed up pretty far into their own territory, so it seemed like a bad idea.

by See Jay on Oct 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

+1...

I was sitting there going “WTF? Did they let Jimmy Raye sneak back into the booth?”

by asleepinSF on Oct 3, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That situation

seemed like a great opportunity for Westbrook to be on the field. One of my few criticisms of the way Mike Johnson wore the dress today.

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 3, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

oc good job alex smith mut

by 49erbayarea on Oct 3, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd prefer to give Johnson and Smith another week together.

Johnson did well enough to warrant that. The team played as well is it could and didn’t under perform. Expectations for Singletary on game management practices should be management’s priority. I’m not really sure what his role is out there, to tell you the truth. Sorry to wander from topic. Keep Johnson for another month and then look at it.

by Vertigo on Oct 3, 2010 4:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Another week for Smith

= Another loss for the Team

"Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling." Master Takeo

by riderless on Oct 3, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eureka!

weve found the main correlation in the formula!

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pin this loss on Smith

Not the other 3. But now he is out of time. He either does something against the Eagles or it is curtains.

"Bar None!" - William Floyd

by maveric_87 on Oct 3, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He did okay

You can tell there is some Jimmy layover but that was expected. I think Smith is done to many INT’s he is really been pulling the grounding stuff a lot this season. I just think the D gave up Roddy White showed up in the 4th and the rush disappeared on that final drive. Smith was playing okay to a point but when a guy is averaging this many INT’s it has to be examined.

by MikeDv on Oct 3, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Wrong topic for discussion

Alex Smith should be the only topic of discussion.
I remember before the season all the talk was about this is a good team and poised to make some noise and that how well they performed would be squarely on the shoulders of our 6th year quarterback.
well he’s thrown what? 6 INT’s in 4 games. 2 TD’s is not good enough. I know it’s not all his fault but this team will only go as far as the QB can carry it.
We are seeing the truth in that statement through these first four weeks.

by crumpedup15 on Oct 3, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Topic for tomorrow

but I think we’ve been around this one before.

Unfortunately, I don’t think we’ll see a switch unless Smith throws seven interceptions one game or he’s carried off the field on a stretcher.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

J stays Smith goes! We need a vet. qb, some1 who will take us to the playoffs and maybe a superbowl! Cards did great with Warner! We cant start over! The 90’s, niners needed d-fense, we got it and took it to the house! Niners are championship caliber! Sing needs to change his way of think’n. The QB is the leader, not just another small part of this huge equation!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I gave a C

The reason being is even though the playmakers for the 49ers got the ball it was few and far between. In the first half not enough Gore, in the second half too much Gore not enough involvement with the receivers.

This team needs balance also Anthony Dixon needs to be used more as the season progresses especially in short yardage situations.

Love the play on third and one and throwing deep to Delanie Walker.

by Rocky63215 on Oct 3, 2010 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Delanie,Mays

How is Delanie anybody know?? Is it safe to say Mays is our future?

by MikeDv on Oct 3, 2010 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

C

1 offensive TD
We make the Raiders look like juggernauts!

Needs more spread and less tipped balls

by LADubbz45 on Oct 3, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Smith explains intercetions...
Smith continued to blame his two interceptions on himself, saying they were costly and that they were bad decisions. Smith said on the first one, he should have taken a sack instead of throwing high to running back Frank Gore. On the second one, Smith thought the safety was going to follow Vernon Davis across the field. Instead he stopped and stepped in front of Josh Morgan for the pick.

From San Francisco Chronicle

by sigma on Oct 3, 2010 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

the only thing that could make this loss a lil less hurtful is.....

GIANTS CLINCHING THE NL WEST WOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOO…..sorrry i kno its niner forum but i had to shout out =D

by BIG LOS on Oct 3, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I graded him a B

I thought the Gore runs in the second half were good calls, as the team was moving the chains. Alex Smith just threw a timely INT that killed one drive, and the OL allowed a sack that thwarted another (intentional grounding, same thing). I’m not going to completely toss Smith under the bus, but I’m ready to start thinking about a new QB in 2011 (I just hope its a proven QB, not a drafted one unless he comes in Round 2 and is named Ryan Mallet).

Mike Johnson called a pretty good game I thought, and I’m still seriously blaming this entire loss on Nate Clements’ stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid fumble. I’ll forgive him eventually, like in 10 years.

by Andrew Davidson on Oct 3, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Nate made one mistake

Trying to put a fork in the Falcons because we all know Alex Smith doesn’t have the talent or the will to take care of business himself.

Otherwise Nate had a great game.

"Careful Grasshopper ~ that's a god you're mauling." Master Takeo

by riderless on Oct 3, 2010 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but

he should have known that it would’ve been more important NOT to go in. If he’d taken a slide or stepped out of bounds around the twenty the Niners could have burned off most of the clock, eliminated the Falcons timeouts, and the Niners, even if they didn’t score, would’ve extended the lead to four points.

I knew this was going to happen. I saw Clements catch that ball, saw him running, and I knew what was going to happen.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yean, one mistake that cost his team the game

Chester McGlockton was right in his comments about this play on Channel 5 this afternoon. That was one selfish move by Nate. He should have just covered up the ball, but no, he had to get the glory in the win.

Roddy White 2 Nate Clements 0.

by Mood_Indigo on Oct 3, 2010 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

We know that?
we all know Alex Smith doesn’t have the talent or the will to take care of business himself.

I assume we know that because we didn’t watch the last three minutes of the game against the Saints?

Trying to put a fork in the Falcons? The interception WAS the fork. Game is done if he just sits down and gives the ball to Alex.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 3, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A

early drive goes for a TD. scripted plays get us points.

sad thing is…Alex had to execute following the opening drive, and…well, you know how that goes….

by t p on Oct 3, 2010 4:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Alex also had to execute the opening drive...

I mean, “MJ can’t throw the passes for Alex,” right?

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walkers X-ray negative

Status for Sunday uncertain.

I liked the play calling at times then at other times it was much more of the same.

Nice to know smith is owning his terrible play.

Hopefully next week Johnson has much more of his type of offense installed

by MikeDv on Oct 3, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions  

It's the same book

This is true but he has to get the offense used to how he is going to run it and that is installing something new his mindset not Jimmy Rayes

by MikeDv on Oct 3, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

B

Would have liked to see Westbrook used for pitches and swing passes. Alex cost us bad but he still outplayed Ryan. Which just confuses me more.

The defense as a whole minus Mays needs to step up. And Manusky dropping everybody into coverage on 3rd and 15 from the 5 was the stupidest call I’ve ever seen.

Honestly I think Manusky cost us more than any single player.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Oct 3, 2010 4:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Just heard coach Sing and he said he's excited for the player's and the coache's ...

… dang i wish i could be excited too …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 3, 2010 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Just keep drinkin'

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looked like he was mentally defeated! I feel for the guy! With very little knowledge of X’s & O’s, I thiks he’s bustn his ass for an answer! It’s Smith, Sing! Only Smith!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the end after Bryant made the FG

When I saw Sing kneeled down in the catchers postion, I thought the same thing….he just looked down with his mind running different thoughts at ludicrous speed

by sundaysfinest on Oct 3, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's because Sing knows what he has to do now...

I was all for Smith being the guy because I felt this is his year to show he is not a bust with the talent they have on Offense. Well… he is a bust. And Sing knows it. Smith has 1 game left to prove otherwise and then it’s case closed.

"Bar None!" - William Floyd

by maveric_87 on Oct 3, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

WELL WORTH IT!

I can’t believe I spent OVER $1000 to watch my Niners next wk. Tickets, hotel, rental car, plane tickets ( that does’nt include spending money)! But I love my niners! We will be on top again! VICK-less and philly d-fence is very beatable we should win this game! We lost to a damn good team today, a champinship caliber team!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Why?

Jacksonville is the toughest game on the Colts schedule EVERY YEAR. For some reason, the “throw out the records” clause applies… moreso than even Colts/Pats.

by indymike on Oct 3, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

49ers need to use Kyle Williams

on wide receiver screens let him use his speed.

by Rocky63215 on Oct 3, 2010 4:59 PM PDT reply actions  

He's got kick returning duties

I dont think Sing has considered Williams
Plus, he’s too fast….Smith couldn’t hit that target!!

by sundaysfinest on Oct 3, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah him or ginn. Morgans isn’t fast enough for those type of plays

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You guys know that this stretch right here is the hardest part of our schedule

@Seahawks biggest and baddest home stadium in the NFL
vs. Saints Super Bowl Champions
@Chiefs Pretty loud stadium huge home field advantage, team is 3-0 so far.
@Falcons This team is pretty darn good

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, i am also aware that this division can be tied all across the board in week 6.

I wanna turn your face into a toilet seat, i wanna pee on you, yes I do, Pee on you

by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Good point that no one is making. 0-4 sucks, but we’ve certainly had the hardest part of our schedule right at the beginning.

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 3, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we calm down and give it a little time...

I think if we give Smith and Johnson a couple of weeks to get all of the kinks ironed out, there could be good things that come…I think there will be measurable improvement.

Hell, if you look at the 49ers offense and compare it to any game that wasn’t New Orleans, there was a significant statistical improvement:
— Time of possession, the 49ers topped the Falcons
— Significant improvement in yards gained
— Significant improvement in third down conversions
— The ball got to many more of the playmakers
— The running game was fairly productive
— Shots were taken down field.

by sigma on Oct 3, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Well..

Rattle Smith and this is all out the window.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

rattle any QB and you win

some are just harder to rattle than others. Like Peyton Manning it would take an elephant to shake him up.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's the QB period...

But hey, if Smith continues to throw INTs at the pace his is right now, we can all shout at the top of our lungs:

HE IS ON HIS 7TH OC!!

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But if you rattle the QB you have to get through the O-line

so if the O-line stops the rush than the QB won’t get rattled. If the QB doesn’t get rattled than the team wins.

by manraj7 on Oct 3, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think what you are missing here...

Is that it really only takes one sack and 2 hurries to get Smith off of whatever game he has. He is that fragile of psyche.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

The oline’s fault? Please that is just stupid. pressures and sacks happen in every game. its what you do in spite of pressure that makes you a good qb.

pressure = Smith wilts and self implodes.
lack of pressure = Smith sometimes can make the right pass or more often does not.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this pace we should see their 1st win by?

I’m sick of significant improvement, I want major improvement!
I want the running game to be extremely effective, not fairly productive!!
I’m sick of shots ‘taken’ downfield, I want shots completed downfield!!

by sundaysfinest on Oct 3, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The playcalling looked fine

I think Singletary can actually say execution was the main problem here….

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 3, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup the players lost this game not the coaches

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

They can go 6-10..

and Jed still won’t admit mistakes. He is a York. That’s a Family Tradition.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 3, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

lol

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at the bright side we can get a good qb with that high draft pick.

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

They need to win plain and simple.

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The football gossip columnists on the TV shows

say Sing is safe for the season, but he’ll be “evaluated” at the end of the season.

I wouldn’t expect anything else. And who would you name head coach?

As discouraging as this is I’m still not convinced that can’t win the division. Maybe if there’s a loss next week.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Question for the board:

Lots of agreement that Smith is not getting it done. True that. As stated I’ve been a pro-Smith guy, and even I can’t justify it at this point. But that said – what is our best option going forward? Do we a) stick with A Smith or b) play either D Carr or T Smith, or c) try to deal for a vet QB to come in and play out the season? I am voting for “a) stick with A Smith” because I’m an idiot and hate to admit I was wrong about Smith even when I think I probably was, I don’t believe either back up will be any better, and I don’t beieve there’s a vet QB out there who can be acquired and step in and perform. So basically I think we’re screwed for the season unless A Smith gets better real fast. But would love to hear what the rest of you think, including any options I’m not considering…

by mwright84 on Oct 3, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah i’m with you. He’s the best option. :(

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this point! I still say bench his ass! If he’s gonna get cut by the end of the season ( cuz he’s headed in that direction) we should go with the kid who does’nt have so many bad habbits! I said HABBITS NOT HOBBITS! Go with the younger kid teach him how to play QB the right way!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much damage can he possibly create at this point? the worst thing is he learns the offense and gets us some wins!

by Cal Gutierrez on Oct 3, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can hope the rest of the NFC West isn’t good enough to go 8-8 and try to win it with mostly defense alone against an easy remaining schedule. They need to be at least 3-5 by the bye. If the team cannot get off the ground than skip the backups and see what Nate Davis can do. Needless to say the 49ers are already taking 1st round QB in 2011. Only question that remains is whether the team will have to trade up and what will they be forced to give up.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

sign Jeff Garcia from the Omaha Nighthawks

by uspsuperman on Oct 3, 2010 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

The Eagles may get him first.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

got to give him a solid B

He made good calls, keeping the ball moving. They had manageable 3rd downs, I think they went 6-12 on 3rd down, 50% on third is not bad. Alex Smith is the WORST and he needs to go. He killed some key drives. People want to talk about how smart he is, but he is an idiot. It’s too bad too, I was rooting for him just so we don’t need to draft a QB next year and address other positions, but I want Smith out ASAP.

by SuperStarAR on Oct 3, 2010 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

With Smith throwing about 2 Interceptions...

Per touchdown pass it’s no wonder the Niners are in the situation they find themselves in. I am not going through the litany of deficiencies Alex Smith possesses again it’s become self evident. The play calls were fine for the most part, the QB execution has been and will continue to be one of the biggest problems. Face it fans, he’s not getting much better.

by Natural Red on Oct 3, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Yup Johnson did a good job its just Smith being dumb

0-3 estamos en un hoyo grande. Maldito sea.

by 49erSalvatrucha on Oct 3, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions  

When Nate picked that ball off...

the first thing I saw was Roddy White charging, and I said “Don’t Fumble,” especially since he couldn’t see Roddy from behind. But still, it’s inexcusible. Stop running, and you can run out most if not all of the game clock… Thanks Nate. (And remember Dre’ Bly from last year? It was Roddy White that time, too.)

Only if the Giants traded for Brett Cecil...

by Ken O'Brien on Oct 3, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not so mad at Clements

I mean- of course I’m pissed at him for not protecting the football, but the real person I’m upset with is the 49er who was closest running behind him, right behiond Roddy White when he caused the fumble- Terrell Brown. Had Brown been yelling at him to let him know he had a man right behind him- I’m confident he wouldn’t have fumbled, or have been in a position to fumble.

As for Mike Johnson: B. I like that Crabtree was involved from the jump, but the offense went pretty static in the second half.

[site decorum]

by bonbrillio on Oct 3, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more pissed with Smith

Those 2 Ints were unacceptable.

"Bar None!" - William Floyd

by maveric_87 on Oct 3, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn't Brooks the guy in front of Nate

that he slowed down for to follow? I haven’t rewatched it yet, but I think Brooks was in front.

by jakebmill on Oct 3, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that might have been it

either way someone should’ve been yelling at him to get down

by smileyman on Oct 4, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Remember the preseason game?

I forget who the players were, I think Phillips got a pick and started running, and Brock tackled him to stop the play?

Yeah that would have been nice….

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 3, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rest of the season....

play hard and try to be the first zero-and-four team to make the playoffs in ages

or

tank the rest of the season season and draft Andrew Luck

Only if the Giants traded for Brett Cecil...

by Ken O'Brien on Oct 3, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

bet

Luck isn’t coming out. Dude is gonna earn his degree and take his time, especially if Harbaugh doesn’t go anywhere

[site decorum]

by bonbrillio on Oct 3, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm happy a coach finally called

The Gore run from the spread shotgun formation again. It worked very well last year and it was working again today. People keep saying Gore needs a fullback to run but he does pretty well against a spread out defense.

by Neama on Oct 3, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Agree

I’m thinking that at this point Norris just gets in Gore’s way.

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is the point in the season where we decide we get on a big winning streak because the next 6 games are definitely winnable

or we tank and draft our franchise QB (LUCK) and maybe a new coach

the worst thing that can happen is we go 7-9 or 8-8 and barely miss the playoffs and it’s last year all over again

by 49erEmpire on Oct 3, 2010 6:08 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Don't need to completely tank to get a QB (if they wanted)

There are probably only a few teams that would spend a top 10 pick on a QB next year (Bills, Jags, maybe Browns). Depending on how they finish, they could end up picking a CB or OLB in the 1st round and get a QB in the 2nd. I really would hate to spend big money on a 1st round QB again

by sanfranfanmdk on Oct 3, 2010 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

true

if Luck goes into the draft the big 3 QBs are Luck, Locker, and Mallet and Bills and Jags would probably take two of those

I prefer Luck over the other two however

by 49erEmpire on Oct 3, 2010 6:30 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

any qb's avail. in free agency?

we missed on mcnabb, who i lobbied for, but got shot down by obviously some real geniuses at this point who thought Alex Smith was the answer.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

sorry meant next year..

but jeff crazy legs garcia in his geriatrickness is better than alex smith in his “prime”

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah they should have hired you as QB talent evaluator. WTH were they thinking?

by cybermaldonado on Oct 3, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

actually

steve young has been on knbr and made some pointed remarks about the job of qb and what needs to be done..but apparently the niners brass and others cant seem to admit when they make a colossal mistake and move one..

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I.m sticking with my prediction . week # Five it all turn's around ...

… The O line start’s to gel , a more creative Offensive game plan, And Smith yes Alex Smith make’s huge stride’s and turn’s all the hate away … i’m gonna copy and paste this post in case i’m wrong and just switch the week’s around until they come true …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 3, 2010 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh almost forgot , the Defense quit"s losing game's for us ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 3, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's really fair.

The defense held the Falcons to 16 points. The punt return unit, which features several defensive players, scored half of our points. The defense made a couple mistakes, sure, including what happened with that interception, but they weren’t “cost you the football game” mistakes. The offense has to be able to do a better job of scoring. We had our chances, and we had chances at more chances, and we didn’t get the job done.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 3, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup , but there are time's when a Defense flat out need's to win the game ...

… and that hasn’t happened as of yet , instead they gave up game ending drives …!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Oct 4, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The defense has opened the floodgates for each and every end of half drive our opponents have had

Our opponents are 5/5 on end of half drives for 19 points, and 2 game winning field goals through four games. This is unacceptable for a defense that’s supposed to be good. Sorry. You have to get a stop when you need one. Not saying the offense isn’t without its faults, but it wasn’t Alex Smith and the offense that gave up an easy 60 yard drive in less than a minute.

Trust me, learning english isn’t a waste of time. It is actually sort of useful.

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by Dubs fan in Boston on Oct 6, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would've been an A

If we had a goddang QB.

"Bar None!" - William Floyd

by maveric_87 on Oct 3, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

no change

gave the man a D the biggest play of the game was a pass interference call that truthfully shouldnt have been called. idk sure it seemed we moved the ball pretty well at times but i’ve seen that before. again how many people are gonna be blamed and pulled until smith loses his damn job.

by mdeasy on Oct 3, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Cant give a high grade

when your offense scores 7 points. I know execution was terrible, and I know the players have to make the plays and they didnt.

And I know he was better than Jimmy Raye. But I think we are overvaluing his performance because he is simply better than Jimmy Raye, the WORST coordinator in the NFL before he was fired.

7 points is 7 points regardless of how much he changed it up and had good variety. 1 TD stinks.

by uspsuperman on Oct 3, 2010 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Losing against the Eagles...

would be the rotten cherry on top of a decomposing cake. Its usually a fun family rivalry between my dad (and his family with roots 100% in Philly) and myself (as the rebel), and after going to the Linc for the loss last year, a lot of Eagles fans seemed kindly optimistic about us returning the loss to them this season. But with what’s happened so far this season, sentiments may be changing considerably…

Does anyone else sense an extreme ho-hum offensive scrum next week, that’ll smell so bad, people will be running for cover from the living room?

The line must be drawn HERE...

by Ranger10 on Oct 3, 2010 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok, to make everyone feel a LITTLE better about our offense....

at half-time of the Bears/Giants game, the Bears have ZERO points and 22 total yards, and the Giants have 3 points and 98 total yards lol

by sanfranfanmdk on Oct 3, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

I grade A- for MJ

And the point total would reflect that if the QB did not make two huge mistakes, the OL one. MJ called the usual plays, some new ones, and did his best to put the ball in the hands of guys that can gain yards. He also did this in his first week, on the road, and without Delanie Walker for over the half the game.

His game plan was excellent under the circumstances. Niners had more TOP despite running fewer plays, scored a TD on their opening drive, and looked very good on their first drive to start the half was well as the drive to try and put away the game. You can’t blame him (or any coaches) when players make mistakes in ways that are completely on them.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 3, 2010 7:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Totally an A.

His play calling was fine. His players let him down.

By the way, regarding this:

Nate Clements has to protect the ball in that situation
Nate Clements has to take a knee in that situation. How does an NFL defender not realize that with under two minutes to play, having the ball and the lead=win?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 3, 2010 7:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I disagree with taking a knee.

He was right in trying to get better field position and run the clock some. What he needs is better situational awareness

He basically slowed down to a jog, just asking to be stripped like that. If he had any awareness he could have just stepped right out of bounds…

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 3, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do we need field position?

How do we possibly lose the game from putting the offense on the field right at the spot of the interception?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 3, 2010 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's an argument for Clements to move the ball downfield after the INT

The Falcons still had all three timeouts, So you couldn’t just kneel to run out the clock with two minutes left. But once Clements had gotten past the twenty and within field goal range stepping out of bounds would have given the offense the ball, allowed them to run down the clock, then kick a field goal, which would have put them up four points with less than a minute to go at worst. And requiring the Falcons to score a TD. Even if Clement had scored a TD they would have been up by eight with almost two minutes on the clock. And we know that you can tie with two minutes.

Granted, that’s a lot of thinking for someone to do in the heat of the moment. But, really, if he’d only protected the damned ball…

by Bob In Beaverton on Oct 3, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I can see that.
Granted, that’s a lot of thinking for someone to do in the heat of the moment.

That’s why it should be hammered into every defensive player’s head. You have to know what the plan is in that situation.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Someone already said it

ATL has all three time outs, the offense was inept I doubt they would have gotten the TD, but at least a FG. The Nienrs had Ryan out of sync most of the game. Would have been a totally different game if they were forcing Ryan to get a TD and not just get into FG range.

Get the ball to at least FG range, protect the ball, and then stop the play. That was all Nate needed to do.

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 3, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I remember thinking he was slowing down, but not necessarily because he wanted to.

Somebody was blocking in front of him, no?

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 3, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

looking at the replay,

Nate should have just ran past Brooks instead of slowing down behind him. The only people that appear to be in front of him at that point is P. Willis blocking Matt Ryan and maybe Brooks inadvertanly slows White down.

But then again, it looked like White was gonna catch him from behind no matter what.

by jakebmill on Oct 3, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

He scores a TD if he cuts inside

Of course he likely would have scored a TD on the first snap of the season if he had cut outside on his iNT instead of inside. I’d expect better field vision from a former punt/kick returner.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 3, 2010 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coaching Staff

I am a 49er fan, but after watching today’s game against the Falcon’s…..what a disgrace!!!
That QB Alex Smith is the WORST starter in the NFL period!! Look at the rookie the Rams have, this is his first year mind you, and is he making the STUPID mistakes that smith is??
NO, what was that rolling around and throwing the ball away all about?? I don’t even see High School QB’s do that?? That cost us 3 points…then those 2 STUPID interceptions? AND on top of that…the head coach would not even bench him What was that about??
The head coach must go, along with his “new” co-ordinator, I for one did not see much of a change in strategy? When will the niners use Westbrook? The last game of the season
What will poor “alex” say this time?? He must have laughed ALL the way to the Bank with that Fifty Million Dollars they signed him for….it’s been 4 games so far and I think he threw 2 TD’s? What a scam…so everyone was grading the new co-ordinator A’s & B’s & C’s?
Why?? Didn’t they see the score-board? The 49ers scored twice in the first six minutes….once by the offense, and once by special teams, and that was it!!! So….where was ALL of the NEW offensive schemes and scores? I didn’t see them?

by george l on Oct 3, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

You didn't watch much of the game.

I wanna turn your face into a toilet seat, i wanna pee on you, yes I do, Pee on you

by rlott#42 on Oct 3, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously?
That QB Alex Smith is the WORST starter in the NFL period!

Do you watch every NFL game every Sunday? I’m not sure you’re qualified to make that assessment.

Look at the rookie the Rams have, this is his first year mind you, and is he making the STUPID mistakes that smith is?

Yeah, some of them. But they’re happening at more opportune, luckier times that don’t hurt the team in the same way that Alex’s do, and he’s also playing against not very good teams. And the Rams are 2-2, with both victories coming at home.

NO, what was that rolling around and throwing the ball away all about?

Falcons fans are wondering the same thing about Matt Ryan, but I bet they haven’t forgotten basic punctuation and syntax.

AND on top of that…the head coach would not even bench him What was that about??

And replace him with…who, exactly? Two interceptions is bad, but it’s not so ugly a performance as to justify bringing in some schlub who will do even worse.

along with his "new" co-ordinator, I for one did not see much of a change in strategy?

You didn’t see a lot more passing? You didn’t see almost every receiver, back, and tight end that came on the field get a touch of the football? You didn’t see Gore running routes that weren’t straight up the gut? If you didn’t see that, I think you were making the key mistake of not turning your TV on.

What will poor "alex" say this time??

I like how you put his name in quotation marks, as if Alex isn’t really his name, but that’s just what he likes to call himself.

So….where was ALL of the NEW offensive schemes and scores? I didn’t see them?

The offensive coordinator doesn’t tell his quarterback to throw interceptions. That’s not part of the game plan. Without those two very boneheaded interceptions, the Niners probably score at least six more, maybe 14 more.

"I wasn't able to extend so I had a serious lack of extension."--Dallas Braden

by StJosephBurningTheOakTreesToTheGround on Oct 4, 2010 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I think you might get the award

for longest username ever. Me likey.

As far as Alex Smith goes

I’d rather take him than Jay Cutler, Derek Anderson (who might not be the starter next week), Jimmy Clausen, Matt Cassel, Seneca Wallace, David Garrard.

Despite his poor performance he’s still thrown for more yards than half the QBs in the league.

In other words he’s average to slightly below average. Sadly we need more than that.

by smileyman on Oct 4, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

C+?

Runs to the outside!? Spreading the offense out even when we’re NOT down by two touchdowns with 4 minutes left in the game!? What sort of madness is this? If Jimmy Raye was watching today, I have to think he was pretty flabbergasted by seeing all these plays for the first time. For this reason alone Johnson did a good job, but there was still plenty that was missing. Still no Westbrook? I’m seriously having a hard time understanding what the reason is that he’s not on the field. Just getting him out there provides enough of a threat to make a defense think twice about how they cover the run, or to watch for a screen, etc. My second complaint is the throws that were called were not quite good enough. It was good to see Crabtree make those catches 10-15 yards out, but why not more? Whatever your overall opinion of Alex Smith, I think it’s pretty safe to say at the very least that he frequently struggles with the short throw, and as for the long bomb…..well at least there’s always PI. I’ve always thought that the mid-range throw was more or less Smith’s strong point, and I’m a little disappointed Johnson didn’t do more to take advantage of it. The play-calling in general still seems too conservative. It’s always either taking all three downs to crawl up to the stick, or hucking something deep to keep a defense “honest”. One thing that HAS to change is that when we get the lead, we have to keep trying to score points, instead of these constant pointless drives where we act like we’re just borrowing the ball until the opposing team gets their act together and re-takes the lead.

by We Hit People In The Mouth on Oct 3, 2010 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Westbrook is no longer any good, it’s not 2006. Why isn’t Dixon getting a few carries is the question?

I can safely say that 90% of all passing plays have at least one long or immediate route, often enough there are two. If the balls not been thrown deep it’s the QB, not the coordinator.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

dont see any evidence

of Westbrook not being any good, he is one of the top all purpose backs in league—-he’s all healed from last year’s injuries.
Give the man a chance. I think its still a vestige from the Jimmy Raye old school mentality: “we can only have Frank the tank as our bell cow thinking”

Geesh, that kind of thinking puts too much pressure on Frank and he was visibly worn down in the fourth q. with some of the linebackers making plays on him.

by 11allstar on Oct 3, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last I checked he was injured last season

Even before injury he wasn’t having a good season. He started off this season banged up in camp, got into preseason for two snaps and was injured again. There is certainly plenty of evidence of Westbrook not doing anything coming from two teams over the last year.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 12:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

No real reason..

To get Westbrook a whole lot of snaps this early in the season. Give him more quality snaps after the bye. He will be healthier and more familiar with the rest of the offense, and the 49ers did well on 3rd down this game. Gore and Dixon before the bye, and Westbrook for change of pace, Kevin Faulk like, when the 49ers have the offense that can work him in.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I’m just tired of the offensive play calling being evaluated based off how many snaps Westbrook got. He’s never been healthy enough to practice. He got one play today and resulted in a timeout because he lined up in the wrong spot.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got some flak..

(which is par for the course) when they signed him, and in my usually cynical way, I posted how Raye would have no clue how to use him. The offense for the most part still won’t be able to work him in for a few reasons:

The QB, the new OC trying to get the other playmakers involved, Solari working with said new OC on blocking assignments, the rookies on the O-line, the QB, and Westbrook himself. If he was Larry Johnson on his last legs, he would get snaps. Westbrook on a team with said QB is a question mark.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I he signed I warned everyone not to get excited

Often injured, old running backs don’t do much. Often just take up a roster spot. All the issues you listed above are a strong factor against him. The 49ers don’t have time to figure him out even if he didn’t have constant injury issues preventing any kind of evaluation in practice.

I thought the signing was mostly a waste. I guarantee if Gore gets hurt Westbrook quickly follows trying to fill for his 20+ touches per game. Already Anthony Dixon knows more plays and can do more for the offense.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 1:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well...

If they continue the Gore pancake Raye offense (which I really don’t have a problem with, due to the QB) and he get’s hurt (someday, those reconstructed knees will turn into Grapefruit), then it will come down to passing game. Dixon has had limited snaps in more favorable situations, without having to carry a lot of offensive weight. I haven’t checked the stats out on this yet, but I think Gore has more YAC than any of the WR’s or TE’s. That’s your 49er offense with Smith @ QB. I could be wrong on that, but Gore is still the straw that stirs the 49er offense. If Westbrook can’t at least bring 50% of Gore’s YAC, than it is a waste.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 2:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree about Gore too

Westbrook isn’t providing anything that Gore doesn’t already do.

I do think Dixon ought to get a few more carries. He’s been a hard guy to tackle and think the defense is waiting to get gashed after chasing Frank around for 2 quarters. Switching pace a RB has kept the Giants afloat on offense for two season, it’s also greatly helped the Cowboys.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 2:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dixon hasn't shown..

much dimension, He does have good vision, but how many defensive looks has he seen? Rookie RBs look better when the call on offense has a downhill factor going for them. Gore in the backfield on 3rd and 8 has a lot of options. Dixon on 3rd and short means he has not carried more than 50 yards the whole game, if he even carried 30. Hell where is he on STs? Dixon is not a ‘change of pace RB’, at least not yet. Westbrook was signed for that. I’d rather Delanie Walker in space out of the backfield than both Dixon and Westbrook on 3rd and 8 if Gore wasn’t there.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 2:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ideally I’m not using Dixon on 3rd down unless it’s short yardage. I’d like to give him a crack on 2nd and 5 or maybe an occasional 1st down.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather..

and this goes to Johnson’s first game as OC: 3rd and short as an opportunity rather than percentage. The 49er offense, going back to last year after the Hill adjustment, was a mish mash of whatever worked, despite the situation. That will happen when you gamble with a crap QB that can make a few throws, like Smith. But the real $$ is on your cards when you gamble. Dixon is not the card you want to pull yet. Bring the Full House in Gore. Dixon is a bluff on short. Big $$$ on the table? Gore. Because once they think they have you, you have a Gore card. $$$

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW..

Gore is one of the best football players I have ever seen. He carries the 49ers. The defense feeds off of him. Give him Tom Brady, and he dances into Canton.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 3:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Give Tom Brady Frank Gore and he’s got ring for his thumb.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 4, 2010 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yet he has Awex Smith..

and all he gets is a Bing! for his Numb.

The SF 49ers: It's FAIL, done better

by drummer on Oct 4, 2010 4:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was that on Westbrook?

Sideline guy on 49er radio said that Smith was telling the coaches that Crabtree either didn’t go in motion when he was supposed to or lined up at the wrong width on the field and didn’t hear Alex tell him to move.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 4, 2010 2:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I remember, on the play in the first drive that Smith had to take a time out on

That the announcers said that Westbrook had lined up as a receiver there. Then after the timeout, I don’t think Westbrook was there anymore.

by Badly Browned on Oct 4, 2010 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did "see" the field yesterday

He lined up for a third-down play in the first quarter, but the 49ers had to call a timeout. When they returned after the timeout, Westbrook was replaced in the personnel package. . . .

Source

by Badly Browned on Oct 4, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Questions:

Why not more of Dixon?
Why so much of Gore up the middle? (us him,but be smarter)
Why not more screens when ATL was teeing off on Smith?

(from recollection) seemed ATL opted to go max pressure on Smith much of the second half. Seems there were at LEAST a couple series where we could have FEASTED with screen passes. What did we run? One all game? It worked. No need to get fancy. When ot works, GO BACK TO IT.

With Smiths bad decisions, I saw a QB on an 0-3 team who was trying to force the issue to make something happen.

Keep in mind that Ryan threw a couple INT’s as well. ATL’s running game was simply more effective. As for Smith’s “shuffle pass” attempt, could have been worse – see Bree’s last week.

I think Smith has some issues. What I find really annoying is that I just don’t see him playing bad enough to loose his job nor good enough to build confidence. Play calling was better, but could have been better still. There were execution issue with the offense that were not all on Smith. I saw improvements with Crabs, and some nice effort by VD and Gore fighting for yards to get first downs. Our “D” also failed to stop the final drive by ATL (failed to “finish”), but Mays looked good overall and his play on the blocked punt was excellent.

Overall, I think this is where we should have been the lasty preseason game or on week one. Overall I do see a lot to build on. Mistakes were made, but fewer than before. ATL is a VERY good team. If we keep moving forward we can still do well. ANY setbacks and I think the West becomes out of reach.

by ColoradoNiner on Oct 3, 2010 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know if it's worth the reply

The runs up middle were dramatically down for this game. They also called a lot screen passes, including the offenses last play of the game where CB blitz came in for the sack.

Bring Briggs Back!!!

by bignerd on Oct 3, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't notice the screens

I thought there might have been a coupe more, but NOT when ATL was really dialing up the pressure. I’d have to go back and re-watch.

I also know there were few runs up the gut, but that’s not saying much (since that used to be 1/3rd of the playbook). I just recall a number of runs up the gut for little gain. I know you can’t completely go away from it…but…

by ColoradoNiner on Oct 3, 2010 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Less time eating drives and more fast scoring drives.

I think the niners should consider making this switch. The longer our offense is on the field the greater the chance of a turnover.

by sik49er on Oct 3, 2010 10:20 PM PDT reply actions  

yes i get that..

Just pointing out that this seems to have been the trend with the niners these past 4 games.
The offense slowly but surely marches down field and a drive ends with a turnover. Maybe more no huddle stuff can limit the them.

by sik49er on Oct 3, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's how Atlanta chose to play defense

They trusted that after a certain number of plays Smith or how receivers would make a mistake. Smith did on three occasions (2 INT, overthrowing Crabtree thus negating a PI call).

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 4, 2010 3:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

FWIW - 1st Quarter A, rest of game:C

In the first quarter the play-calling and execution were almost perfect. What happened after that? Alex took off his Superman suit and started throwing inaccurately and throwing critical INTs. Actually, you can’t blame Johnson for that, but after the first INT, his play calling became more conservative and in the second half, Atlanta’s D adjusted to some of the things he was doing (did a better job of covering Crabtree and the flanks) , but he didn’t have an answer to it.

by suffrin9erfan on Oct 3, 2010 10:46 PM PDT reply actions  

MJ’s play-calling did have an answer. Unfortunately, Smith screwed it up.

You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Oct 4, 2010 3:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I cant believe anyone gave him over a C. He scored 1 touchdown on the opening drive and was shut out for the rest of the game.

He opened it up with some different packages. He wasnt predictable, but ultimately he had the exact same result. I liked how we seemed to get the balls more into the hands of our playmakers. But damnit. We really need to just remove the check down screen or anything to the flats with Alex. in 6 years he still cant find a way to have some touch on it. How many picks will we see this season from him firing a laser beam at Gore 5 feet away, it getting tipped then picked? HOW MANY TIMES!!!!!!!

by hendeeze on Oct 4, 2010 12:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Message to Joe Staley and Anthony Davis please!!!!, please !!!! do not block on passing downs next week so the eagles defense can cream Alex Smith and hurt him, so we can finally get him out of the line up and go to another QB.

by bmcrae83@yahoo.com on Oct 4, 2010 12:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Way to be a douche

The San Fransisco 49ers, where we got Dix, VD and Crabs!

by Badly Browned on Oct 4, 2010 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's doing way too much

Officially joining the "Alex Smith Sucks" bandwagon

by return2greatness on Oct 4, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

B

He called the game pretty well from what I saw. There were a few questionable times he called a run and I stood stunned because he should have known it would be stuffed. That should be on Smith to change the play. We also had the one timeout early in the game, which I thought was a bad sign, but it got corrected. That was likely Johnson not being prepared, but it’s only week 1 on the job for him.

I’ll blame yesterdays abyssmal loss on Smith, who played terribly after his first 8 passes. I don’t care if Ryan had similar stats because he’s lead his team to the playoffs, and they’ll likely be there again. I’ve been rooting for Smith and hoping he does well, but I’ve seen enough and the 3 TD:7 INT ratio warrants him being benched. People say we don’t have anything better, but how do we know that Carr or T. Smith can’t go out and simply not turn the ball over. Zona is about to go to a rookie and Anderson hasn’t even thrown that many picks and cost his team games; he just can’t complete passes. I think I’d be more content with that and letting Andy Lee do his job.

Not scoring at all on offense after the first few minutes should lower the grade a bit, but like I said, I’m putting that on someone else.

by 9thevolution on Oct 4, 2010 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I gave him a B too

He did a good job of getting crabtree involved but way too many screen type plays. Once our weapons started getting into the flow of the game i would have liked to see Alex Smith take more shots downfield.

by Willy G on Oct 6, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

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