San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams: Post Game Notes and Quotes
The 49ers wrapped up their third win of the season and first win streak thus far with a wild 23-20 overtime win over the Rams. Although the game wasn't too high scoring, there were numerous notable statistics, including Troy Smith's monster passing day. Smith threw for 356 yards, which is the highest total by a 49ers QB since Tim Rattay threw for 417 yards in 2004. What's truly amazing about the performance is that the 356 yards came on only 17 completions. That's almost 21 yards per completion. It took Rattay 38 completions to reach his total.
There was a comment about the mix of players involved in Smith's completions, and it was actually a record-breaker for the 49ers. It was the first time in 49ers history that at least five receivers totaled 60 or more yards receiving. Finally, his 12.71 yards per attempt was the highest average since Steve Young averaged 14.00 yards per attempt versus Atlanta in 1997. I'd say that's good company for Smith.
Frank Gore had another monster all around performance gaining 154 total yards from scrimmage. With those 154 yards Gore has 7,846 yards from scrimmage since 2006, which leads the NFL. Additionally, he is now on pace for 2,121 yards from scrimmage this season. To put that in proper context, in his record-breaking 2006 season he had 2,180 total yards from scrimmage. It's safe to safe Gore is in beast mode this season. Finally, he is now 39 scrimmage yards from passing RB Joe Perry and move into fourth place on the 49ers all-time yards from scrimmage list. He only trails WR Jerry Rice (19,872), RB Roger Craig (11,506) and WR Terrell Owens (8,734).
As for the overall game itself, it's interesting to note that the 49ers are now tied at 60-60-2 against the Rams all time. Here are a few more random game notes for you. I've posted the player quotations after the jump.
- The 49ers have now won 5 consecutive games over the Rams.
- The 49ers have won 3 of their past 4 games.
- The 49ers are 6-2 against NFC West opponents, dating back to 2009.
- The 49ers improve to 12-5 under head coach Mike Singletary when playing at home.
- Head coach Mike Singletary's record improves to 8-4 against NFC West opponents.
- QB Troy Smith improves to 3-1 as a starter, which includes three consecutive victories, as well as 2-0 as a starter for the 49ers.
- The 49ers improve their record at home to 12-4 since Singletary's first win as a head coach (11/16/08). San Francisco entered this week's game tied for the 7th highest winning percentage (.733) among team's playing at home during that time span.
- The 49ers improve to 11-2 under coach Singletary when not throwing an interception.
- The 49ers improve to 11-3 when recording 3 or more sacks.
- This marked the 49ers first OT win since 9/14/09 at Sea. (33-30 OT).
Head after the jump to check out quotations from players. You can watch post-game interviews at csnbayarea.com and 49ers.com...
Head Coach Mike Singletary
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
Opening Statement:
"I thank God for our players and our coaches, their effort, staying together and coming out with the win."
On whether he saw that QB Troy Smith was making plays:
"Yeah, he made some nice plays. It was nice to see. There are also some things that he did that he can't do, and we have to continue to clean that up and work on that. But overall, I thought he did a nice job."
On what Smith can't do:
"I have to look at the film and talk about it more with him. We have to - anyways, no, I'm not going into that. We'll talk about it."
On whether Smith will be his starting quarterback going forward:
"Right now, I'm just going to - we're going to enjoy this win and before I get into who's the starting quarterback and all that other stuff, we'll sit down as a staff and talk about what we need to talk about, discuss what we need to discuss, and go from there."
On the importance of the division win:
"It's very important. Obviously any time you play a team in your division, you want to win. And you know, it was a hard fought game, right down to the end. And thankfully we were able to come out on top."
On what he saw from Smith when it got down to crunch time:
"You saw what I saw - he made plays. He made plays in crucial times. That's what you want. That's exciting to see."
On Smith's downfield throws and whether that was the play design or his mentality to force things deep:
"I don't know if it's forcing things deep, I think it's a matter of if we have a situation where the receiver is in a particular matchup that we want to take advantage of and give him a chance to see it and get the ball out there. So, that's really all that is."
On Smith keeping plays alive:
"Obviously there are a number of things he does well, I just don't want to lose sight of the fact that today, as well as he played in certain areas, there's a lot of work that he has to do. And to me, that's exciting to be able to say, but there's a lot of work that we have to do as an offense with him, and as our offense as a whole. And we just have to keep working on it. And thankfully we have the right mentality to do that."
On K Joe Nedney's initial injury:
"You know what, I really don't know exactly what happened, I just know that he got nicked a little bit on his knee, but seemed like he was able to work through it and come back and kick."
On his backup plan if Nedney was not able to kick:
"That's not a good question right now."
On how this win turns around the season:
"Well, for me it's just a matter of the guys believing, it's a matter of the guys working. You know, I'm just excited about the guys that are working, coaches and players. SO we just have to continue to work and get where we can go."
On what is going through his mind at 2:00 to go and being down by four:
"Make a play. It's just - got to make a play. That's the only thing you can think, just got to make a play, some how, some way, got to make a play."
On whether there was a consideration on punting at 4th and 18 with two minutes:
"No."
On the offensive line and their play during the game-winning drive in overtime:
"It will go a long way towards continuing to unify that unit. And those guys have taken pride in what they're doing and they do a thankless job week in and week out and we've got a couple of young guys on that line that are still trying to develop, so it's a lot of good things that are happening. [C David] Baas is doing a nice job in the center position. So we'll just try and continue to keep that unit going forward. Whatever we can do to do that. Coach Solari is doing a tremendous job, as well as Ray Brown, in doing that."
On whether the lineup change with right guard was made before G Chilo Rachal was excused from practice on Friday:
"No. No, what happened is, bottom line, Chilo missed the Friday practice. He let me know the day before that there was a chance that that would happen and it was Saturday. There were some other things that took place that you'll have to talk to him about. I thought it was fair to our offense, our coordinator, our quarterback, to start [G Adam] Snyder. The little changes that we made here and there that Chilo was not totally in tune with. And just thought it was better to go with Snyder and let it work itself out, and it did."
On the injury update on T Joe Staley and Snyder:
"You know what, initially I just know that they're banged up a bit, but to what degree I don't know. I have to sit down and talk to our doctors and trainers. I know that they've had x-rays, particularly Staley. So I don't want to make any statements there until I really know what the heck I'm talking about."
On whether Smith forced the Rams into a base defense and away from blitzing:
"Well I think as an offense, one of the things that you really strive to do is not allow the defense to dictate how you play. And we felt that they would have tried to blitz, as will other teams as well, simply because he's a quarterback that hasn't been in the system, he's a younger guy, and maybe that's the way you take away some of the things that he does well. But fortunately, [offensive coordinator] Mike Johnson and the staff really created some protection and blocking schemes that allow him a little extra time to get the ball downfield and didn't think twice about blitzing."
On how Smith responds to his direction:
"I think he responds well. I think he's been in the league a couple of years and he understands what winning is all about. So it's not like I have to sit him down and read him a list off. He knows what it takes, and we just have to continue to do that."
On increasing S Reggie Smith's amount of playing time:
"I'm not really sure in terms of how much more Reggie Smith got, I don't know if it was a particular package that we were running that Reggie was in and [S] Taylor [Mays] was not, so I don't really know what the break down is. I'll have to look at that."
49ers QB Troy Smith
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On how he would assess his performance:
"It could have been better. Definitely as a quarterback there were some throws I wish I could have back. But obviously it was our day today. As a quarterback, it's not going to be as good as you always want it to be and it's not going to be as bad as you think it is. Once I go back and watch the film I'm sure there will be a couple of things that I did, settle things out, but definitely some throws and decisions I wish I could have back."
On the long throws separating the team's play from other games and whether that is the game plan or his personality:
"It's definitely part of the game plan. I'm doing nothing but executing the plays that are called. I try not to think too much about the positives or the negatives. As a quarterback you have to maintain - how should I put it - you just have to stay even keel. Every single guy comes in and out of the huddle has to see the same guy as a quarterback, whether the situations on the field are the way that you want them or they aren't. You definitely have to have like - be like a horse with blinders on, keeping your eyes forward, staying and focusing and maintaining on the game plan, executing these plays. Because it's hard to get wins, very much so, it's hard to get wins."
On his mentality to get the ball to his playmakers:
"Oh yeah, there's no doubt, there's no doubt. There are too many tremendous athletes here to not share the ball, for everybody to not have a chance and an opportunity to make a play. It's on me to do that. It's on me for distribution, it's on me for - you know, to have an understanding of where the game plan really is, how we're going to attack certain defenses, and that's on me."
On whether it is also on him if there is a chance for interception:
"I don't know about having a chance for interception, to me as a quarterback and as a player, somebody who has played the game, that's giving your guy a chance to make a play. That's you throwing it to your guy, away from their guy. That's you putting yourself into a position where as a player, as a man, you know, however big or small those guys out there, they deserve a chance to make a play. Whether a guy is draped all over or he's wide open, this is the NFL. The defenders get paid to blanket guys, and definitely the offenders get paid to make plays."
On the fourth down play to RB Frank Gore and what the situation was:
"Kind of an ad-lib situation. Obviously when you're third and however many yards we were, there's not too many plays in the playbook that you're going to lineup and say, well this is for third and 35. Or this is for third and 45. Definitely, you should know that you're in a two-play and four down territory to where you're getting more than one chance, it's not just one time. Frank being the player that he is, the year-in, year-out, vet leader that he is, definitely just let me know, putting a bug in my ear as far as when we were breaking the huddle some of the things that he would ad-lib if it happened. It just so happened that it happened that way, and we were going up the sideline."
On how dire the situation was at third and 33 and fourth and 18:
"Very much so. When you are a part of a team and an organization who has nothing but a winning tradition, you want to keep that going as a quarterback. Not to say there is a lot on our plate, but we have an understanding as an offense to what we need to do to be successful and definitely in those situations it's very dire. Very dire."
On why there were time-outs called:
"Offensively, you set out to do things tip top and perfect at all times. Obviously throughout the course of the game it's not going to be that way. You know, we are still working as an offense, as a young offense, to get better. And that's just internally some things that we have to fix. Stepping into those situations though, obviously that's why you have time-outs, for miscues and things like that and sometimes you just need a rest. You can't take anything away from that, you have to be able to accept it for what it is and we have a lot of work to do."
On whether he expects to be the starting quarterback:
"I'm not worried about that. I'm enjoying this win. I don't know about you but I just spent four or five hours in cleats, I'm ready to go rest my feet."
On whether he wants to start the next game after winning:
"Trying to put words in my mouth. We'll stay the course, we'll stay the course."
On what it means to him to help engineer two wins for the team:
"It means a lot, it means a lot. For me as a man, my opinion really doesn't mean anything. In the big scheme of things, all of our opinions really doesn't mean anything, we just have to be able to stay the course and as male or female, whatever the case may be, continue to stay steadfast, put your head on a straight, even keel and things will work out for you."
On whether head coach Mike Singletary praised him after the game:
"I don't know if you would call it a praise."
On what was said:
"It was his little scour that, I know you've probably seen it (laughing). No, but he told me good job, and we definitely have to go back to the drawing board, watch the film, break it down, and there's going to be some things that definitely you wished you did better, but you just got to live and learn."
C David Baas
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On what you think about the win:
"That was awesome. I mean you'll take the win anytime. It's cliché but any given Sunday any team can win, and we just kept fighting and I feel like we did a really good job of staying in there until the end."
On how important it was to make up some ground in the division:
"That's awesome. It's really good that we had that in our sight. We left a lot out there and we need to improve on some areas, but it was a good step. We just need to get better and get ready for next week."
On how good the play was from your QB Troy Smith:
"It was awesome. You know I think we were out there battling for him and he's making plays. We just have to continue to do that and keep going from here."
On what the mindset is on the offense when the defense gets that first stop in overtime:
"Oh it was awesome. We knew that we had the ability to go down there and score and that's what we did, we just drove down the field and got the job done."
TE Vernon Davis
Post-Game Quotes- November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On playing with the mindset having to win to stay in the division race:
"We did, that was our mindset. That we had to win this game, or if we didn't we would be out of it."
On scoring touchdowns and having them called back:
"It hurts, but it is something we have to get corrected. We can't allow that because it will hurt us in the end."
On if there is a different energy playing with QB Troy Smith:
"He is a play maker. That is what I describe him as. He is a playmaker, he is not afraid to let the ball go. He wants to make plays. He will do whatever he has to do to make it happen."
On what Troy is like in the locker room:
"For the most part he is quiet. When there is something that needs to be said he'll speak up."
On the confidence level of the team coming into the game:
"We had tons of confidence. We believed in ourselves, we wanted to get it done, we wanted to win and you see the outcome."
On Troy Smith taking chances throwing deep balls:
"In the locker room Troy is always talking about the guys we have on the team; (TE) Delanie Walker, (WR) Michael Crabtree, (RB) Frank Gore, (WR) Josh Morgan, myself. He always talks about us and says ‘I'm going to take my chances. If I know I have these guys around me that can make plays I am going to take my chances.' That is the right attitude to have I believe."
S Dashon Goldson
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On what the 49ers mentality was on defense coming into the game:
"As a defense we didn't want to let number [Rams running back Steven Jackson] get out of the gate. He's a big guy, a strong guy and he likes to get to the edges so we knew we were going to have to get the DBs involved with. You know, we had to make sure we did that and give the quarterback [Rams quarterback Sam Bradford] some different looks. He's a young guy so we were going to go ahead and give him some different looks and play our defense."
On the 49ers switching personnel between S Reggie Smith and S C.J. Spillman:
"I got confidence in both those guys. Reggie did a great job coming in for us, he made a couple plays, he played a clean game for us and he did some things on special teams. He's just getting better week-in and week-out. We know what kind of player Reggie is and we never gave up on him."
On the 49ers defense forcing the Rams into several three-and-outs in the fourth quarter:
"That just says a lot about our defense. We got a lot of things in and guys are doing them right. We left a little bit out there to be honest with you, you know, we got to come in and correct that come Monday and play this game next week."
On what the defense left out there that they could have done better:
"Calls, certain calls and certain guys not in the right position; tackling."
RB Frank Gore and WR Michael Crabtree
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On whether it's helpful the QB Troy Smith can buy time in the pocket:
Crabtree: "It gives me more time to run my route. That's the best thing you can do."
On whether Troy Smith should be the starting quarterback going forward:
Gore: "Yes, I feel that.
On whether Crabtree feels Troy Smith should start:
Crabtree: "Coach has to decide."
On whether there is a different energy with Troy Smith at quarterback moving around in the pocket:
Gore: "You know, we know Troy is good on his feet. We've watched him in college, and watched him in preseason games. We knew that he scores a lot of touchdowns running the ball. Troy is very active. He's got a great arm and he's running around in the pocket and that's one of the top things Troy, I would say, can do to help this team."
On Gore getting open on fourth down in the fourth quarter:
Gore: "The first one, right? The first one? I said, ‘I'm just going to take it up and try to get first down.' Troy saw me downfield and we got it."
On what Troy Smith was like in the huddle at the end of regulation:
Crabtree: "Troy, he's calm, he's cool. Like I said, he's cool. When you're talking to him, he's just going to go out there and play."
Gore: "He just played football. That's all the game is all about. I look like it like this, you go out and... It's just like when were little kids, play a great down and, you know, make plays. That's all you got to do - make plays."
On how it feels to get first close win this season:
Gore: "It feels good, man. Especially, you know, going back to the perfect game. Everything was going wrong for us and now, game tide turned. Everybody's working hard, getting up in the locker room. Just want to take it one game at a time. Just go out there, and look at it like it's March madness. Just take one game and just win it."
On whether he knew Troy Smith was going to throw a lot of deep balls this game and what that does to the opposing defense:
Crabtree: "I guess it puts them on their heels, I guess. I guess it scares them. I guess so. Like I said, we just want to play football. Whether it's deep, short, whatever it takes to win, we're going to do it."
On how frustrating it is to have touchdowns taken away because of penalties:
Crabtree: "It's tough, it's tough, especially to get it taken away in this league when it's tough to get the plays. But, you know, we got back in the huddle and we still got to play the game."
On Troy Smith taking on a quiet leadership role:
Crabtree: "He wants to win. Like I said, we talked just like brothers."
On if Troy Smith's game plan is to go deep and give receivers a chance to make a play:
Crabtree: "I would say that was the game plan. I'm sure Troy can do it all - short, long, out in the backfield. Like I said, we're just playing football, just trying to make plays.
Gore: "I love it. I love it. The other team's got respect that they can't come in the box. I know we got great receivers and our receivers are happy when they get the opportunity. Now they get the opportunities to make plays down the field and we made them. It's nice to be dangerous, really dangerous."
On whether he would be surprised if Troy Smith is not starting quarterback after last two games:
Gore: "Like I said, whatever coach says, we're going to go with it and we're going to play hard."
On what he thinks about the upcoming matchup with Tampa Bay:
Gore: "They're the best self-titled NFC team in the league. We're just going to come out here to Candlestick on Sunday. We're going to do what we got to do to beat them. We're going to play ball. We're going to try a win."
WR Josh Morgan
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On how the offense was able to stretch the field and open up the box for RB Frank Gore:
"I mean it was big because St. Louis brings a lot of different blitzes. They bring corner blitzes and safety blitzes. I mean that was the thing we had to do was read all of those blitzes and then it's one on one outside. We just had to beat the one-on-one coverage so we did and [QB] Troy [Smith] made some great throws."
On how big Troy's rally was from seven points down to get it into the end zone:
"Most definitely. I mean everybody knows that, it's like March madness around here, you win or you go home. I mean I think the best thing about Troy was that he's so smart and he's thinking, and even when a play wasn't there he just threw the ball in the air and got a pass interference call or something like that. Troy did a great job and [offensive coordinator] Mike Johnson also did a great job calling the plays. For us to have all those penalties and yards called back, it's just great play calling by Mike Johnson."
On the job the defense did at the start of overtime:
"The defense always plays well. That's just their thing. Even for them to be on the field right before the overtime and have to go right back on the field because we lost the coin toss, I mean the defense always does a great job."
On what he thought of T Tony Wragge playing as well as the multiple substitutions:
"Yeah I saw Tony playing, I saw [G] [Adam] Snyder in there, that's a way to step up. I mean when one man goes down the next man has to step up."
K Joe Nedney
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On the pain in his right knee:
"Yeah, my knee was sore but it was stable enough to plant on and I was getting enough whip through the leg that it wasn't affecting the distance a whole lot. It was just a matter of blocking out the pain in the knee and just going through my technique. You know, as you saw it had plenty of distance and I think I was a little surprised as well as the coaching staff because everyone was like, ‘I thought you hurt your knee!' But at the end of the 47 yards we had about 10 to spare, so."
On his kickoff after he hurt his knee:
"Yeah, and I didn't hit a very good one. I hit a line drive so tribute to the coverage to get down there without their guy getting out too deep. For the most part we were able to shut them down and, you know, it was a great team effort. This is the way we win; we grind it out and we grind out and we grind it out and we get a win. IT's not the prettiest thing in the world but it's a ‘W.'"
On what he told the coaching staff before his game-winning field goal:
"I told them, ‘Get it inside the 35-yard line and we're good to go.' You know, most coaches like to put it in the center of the field; I told them, ‘I don't care where you do just make sure the ball is on the hash. I'd prefer it on the hash; I don't care which hash.' So they did that. You know, we had the luxury of getting down there deep and having an extra down or two to position the ball. That's the way you do it, you know. It's one of the great jobs; the guys got down there and made some big plays."
On what happened to his knee and when:
"Yeah, it happened on the opening kickoff. Sniper shot [laughing]. You know, I don't know; it happens. But you kind of grind it out and I was able to; it stayed stable enough for me to my job. You know, I couldn't go crazy on it and I couldn't kick a kickoff full speed but I did enough to get out there and get the job done and that's all that matters to me right now. We got the win; I'm a happy guy."
LB Takeo Spikes
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On how big a game it was:
"It's big. In my opinion, every time we step on that field to compete, it's our playoff bid. You can look at the numbers and say mathematically we're not out of it if this happens, but we're still in the chance to be able to control our destiny. That's the only way that you want to go into the playoffs being able to control your destiny."
On his thought of K Joe Nedney:
"Mr. Clutch. I remember Joe when I was in Cincinnati and he used to kill us the same way. It was nice to see Joe tattoo somebody else. He had the opportunity to put it on them."
On the difficulty of stopping Rams RB Steven Jackson:
"I don't know, I don't think he had a hundred as far as on the running game. He broke one big one, but a guy with that statue, you want to shut him down. You're going to realize that he's going to make his plays, but the main thing we wanted to do was not allow him to have any big yardage, big gains. I think he had two plays, one was on a run. I think it was like a 15-20 yard run and the other one was a pass on me on the sideline. But for the most part we were able to and I think that's the reason we won the game defensively. We were able to contain him, not have him let their offensive coordinator dictate the game."
On his thoughts on Rams QB Sam Bradford:
"Same thing I thought about him before the game. He's a good football player. What makes him so good is he very rarely turns the ball over and he's efficient whenever he throws the ball. He showed a lot of heart, a lot of heart."
TE Delanie Walker
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On QB Troy Smith's ability to keep the play alive with his feet:
"It brings a whole other factor to the offense. He can juke people, break tackles, and then throw the ball off his back foot 30-40 yards. That's going to keep defenses on their heels trying to blitz and leaving somebody wide open like the play you saw where they got the P.I. [pass interference] in the last minute of the overtime. It was just a great play. I saw him stop his feet and me and him are on the same page for some reason. I knew he was going to throw the ball. I tried to stop my feet and the DB [defensive back] hit me and got the pass interference and put us in field goal range."
On how much momentum the win gives the team:
"It gives us a lot of momentum. We're still not satisfied, we've got to get there. Go and prepare next week for Tampa Bay, get another win. We're hungry and we're going to keep eating. Just because we got two wins under our belt back-to-back, we're still not satisfied. We've got to keep going and keep pushing. We're going to be like the train that could, choo-choo."
On having Tony Wragge at left tackle to replace the injured Joe Staley:
"Tony Wragge, he can play any position on the field. When he's out there I've got so much confidence in him. He's one of the smartest linemen on the team, so I'm not worried about it. He's going to do a great job. He's got confidence in us and we've got confidence in him. Him being out there, he did a great job."
LB Patrick Willis
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On the mindset of keeping the team in the game:
"Obviously, everyone says every time we take the field there's a lot of talent. Regardless of what our offense is doing or anything that's happening, we just want to go out there and play good football for 60 minutes."
On whether this was a pivotal game they had to win:
"Yes, we knew coming into this game it was a pivotal game for us. I don't know who was leading the division. I just knew we were at the bottom of it and we need to get to the top. St. Louis was the first game on our way to the top and we had to take care of them first and not worry about the rest of them."
On whether he's surprised with how the team turned it around in their last two games:
"No, I said all year long, even when we're 0-5 or whatever it was, I'm going to be optimistic. I come to work every day, knowing there are going to be brighter days to come. I knew going into the season, well not going into the season, when things were getting crazy and wasn't going the way we wanted it to, but winning one of these divisional games at the end of the season, give us hope. If we were going to play our division games in the front like that we'd be a little nervous, but we have a great opportunity that we are just trying to seize right now."
On the resilience of the team at the end of the game:
"The whole game, in the second half, after they got three it was 17 - I was telling the offense just get us seven points and we'll take care of the rest. Unfortunately, [QB] Sam [Bradford] made some plays and threw the ball downfield and kicked the field goal. I just told the guys that we've got to make this happen."
On the performance of the offense:
"It's really exciting. It's exciting to see our offense do what they do. It's going to be tough at times just like on our side it's going to be tough. They are going to push. A lot of people don't talk about our special teams enough. It's going to take the whole team to get where we want to be where we are at the end of the season."
G Tony Wragge
Post-Game Quotes - November 14, 2010
San Francisco 49ers vs. St. Louis Rams
On what the mindset of the offense is when the defense gets a big stop like that in overtime:
"That we were going to go win a game. We're going to go score a touchdown or kick a field goal and come celebrate in the locker room. That's the mentality. There is no negotiation, there is no ultimatum. I mean that's it. I mean and that's our job to do that, and it's fun and exciting that we can come in have that opportunity to do that after the defense makes a big stop like that."
On how big the three and out in over time was:
"It's huge. It's huge. It just kills the Rams moral I know, when they can't move the ball in overtime. I mean they got the ball kicked to them in overtime, I mean that's advantage to them right away. Our defense did a great job stepping up in 3 and out and we did I think a great job with ball security today, especially in overtime, you know and we had opportunities to make plays. Guys went out, they weren't superman, they just did their job and we came away with a W."
On whether you remember the last time you played tackle:
"I've never played left tackle in a game. I mean I've practiced it, maybe eight or nine years ago, but I've never played left tackle in a game. The last time I played right tackle was maybe '06 or '07, I can't remember. Probably '06 and that was in the preseason, but I've never played left tackle in a game. I watch [T] Joe [Staley] all the time and I watch [T] Adam [Snyder]. That's my role, which is to be a multiple position guy and come in and contribute. I'm always studying my stuff inside but at the same time watching those guys and looking at their techniques and listening to the responsibilities for their plays. I'm accountable to every guy when I come in to play. Whether at left tackle or at right tackle, it doesn't matter. In fact, I'm already thinking right now, I could have done that play better and it's just tough. You just want to make sure you are 100% effective. It doesn't always go great but you just come in and do your job. Its fun, I had fun."
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The passing yards don't matter
It’s the fact that T. Smith didn’t throw any INT’s. That’s what was so refreshing.
"Too much awesome on my feet."-Brian Wilson
"Time for the laser show, boys!"- Aubrey Huff
2010 World Series Champions San Francisco Giants
Neither do I, but he made mistakes but they werent mental they were the type that happens when you play. To me his one mistake when that fumble that he should have fell on
You got a video on that play
I was there and I was confused what was happening
Kellen Moore is awesome
No I dont wish I did but...
the ball came out of his hand and instead of falling on it he tried to pick it up and run with the ball and ended up missing it again before a lineman fell on it
Not a fumble, his arm was going forward
It should have been ruled an incomplete pass, just one more bad call by the officials.
by suffrin9erfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:46 AM PST up reply actions
The passing yards matter when your team hasn’t had a quarterback throw for that many since Dennis Erickson was running things. Outside of that, they don’t matter so much. But in context it does stand as a pretty stellar indictment of the Alex Smith Era overall.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 14, 2010 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
sit down and discuss if troy smith starts going forward?
what is there to dicuss? you want players who can make plays and get you wins, he’s done that. obviously he can’t come out and say that, but it seems untenable at this point
that alex would come back and start again unless troy self-implodes. troy starting is a given.
Hi my name is Frank Gore
and I am man crushing on Troy Smith right now
Kellen Moore is awesome
by manraj7 on Nov 14, 2010 9:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I like this answer
“Offensively , you set out to do things tip top
and perfect at all times . Obviously throughout
the course of the game it ’ s not going to be that
way . You know , we are still working as an
offense , as a young offense , to get better. And
that ’ s just internally some things that we have
to fix . Stepping into those situations though ,
obviously that ’ s why you have time – outs, for
miscues and things like that and sometimes you
just need a rest. You can’ t take anything away
from that , you have to be able to accept it for
what it is and we have a lot of work to do.”
When Alex was asked this he seem to deflect it and say it was a headset problem (yes I know it really was) but Troy took ownership of it and didnt try to throw anyone under the bus. The team seems to respond to him esoecially the wr, and Te. I have a feeling he is going to be special
by EcERyda69 on Nov 14, 2010 9:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Thats just what i was saying about alex smith but not exactly what you said,but every time
someting went wrong for alex it was on somebody else other that him,yes jimmy raye was messing up the offense but you hear what troy said ‘’its on me ’to get my play-makers the ball.When you hear stuff like that from your QB it makes you want to give that extra.Im not trying to put everything bad thing that went wrong for us on alex,i just can’t remember him taking full responsibility on him,
by Jayubb415rebirth on Nov 14, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Another example of Sing passing the buck
This time the code word for poor coaching is “young offense.”
Over
by cybermaldonado on Nov 15, 2010 12:29 AM PST up reply actions
It is a young offense
Defensive offsides and lack of two minute execution should be something he can solve and hasn’t.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
How do we fix the jumping offsides?
Is that Sing, Manusky or both? Seems the players know they’re not doing good enough there and are trying to get the extra jump but more than once per game is inexcusable.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
You are seeing it
Troy is going to extend plays with his legs and it’s time to take advantage of all those good receiving targets: VD, Crabs and Walker. They can make plays on any team, any team so take advantage of it.
Also, since teams still aren’t playing Gore honestly, continue to give him screen passes and dump offs outside when the inside run game isn’t working instead of running into the wall for series after series.
Oh you said offensive offsides. I dunno. I actually think the 49ers are OK. I think they can live with 2 offsides and holding call or two a game. That part only seems fixable with experience. Now VD and WRs cannot afford any penalties.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
David Baas does a good Chris Farley impersonation.
“That was awesome.”
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
STaley: I broke my effin leg!
Bass: Awesome!
A. Davis: I whiffed on a bunch of blocks today
Bass: Awesome!
Reporter: I heard your brother is effin your girlfriend. Thoughts?
Bass: That’s AWESOME!!
When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?" I miss the 90's.....
by crumpedup15 on Nov 14, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
Players know when this was a great game. Just feeling the rush
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
I think Alex wants to stir clear of Miami, Mike Nolan is their DC he would rather play for the CFL than Nolan again
They need a backup, I guess. I think Tyler Thigpen might be the best emergency quarterback in the NFL.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 14, 2010 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
I don't want to hear from Sing anymore. He sounds as lame as Nolan his last days.
MJ has finally shaken free of the Sing philosophy. Niners passed to set up the run, especially runs to the outside, at multiple points in the game. The ghost of Jimmy Raye has been exorcised .
You mean instead of 14 penalty football?
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
Alot of that has to the players...
The coaches including Coach Sing arent responsible for those false starts, holding calls and offsides thats on the players. A coach has every right to demand of those men because thats what they are, they arent boys. You can only coach so much players need to go out and perform and thats what makes Troy Smith’s performance so much more than just the stats he rose above those mistakes and led the team to a win
by Lok on Nov 14, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
When do you start blaming the coach?
every single game this team makes dumb decisions and penalties. Every single game.
No
I blame the coaches when they dont have the right players out there who can benefit the team, who waste timeouts so early in the game and when they dont know the rules, I was specifically talking about the penalities Trust me there a lot of the blame that should go to the coaches
So you don’t blame the coaches for lack of in game adjustments? Because they never make them. Anthony Davis was getting eaten alive all game and they never gave the poor kid any help. That is what led to a lot of those holding penalties. That to me, especially when it is week in and week out, is to blame on the coaching. There are things that can be done to help out a struggling player and they never do it.
they have to throw Davis a bone
teach him how to best deal with superior competition lining up across from him. He’s had all kinds of penalties and whiffs when facing elite competition. Granted this stuff will come with experience but he has to be getting some coaching on how to get away with holds or how to minimize the guy across from him without fully being a turnstile
Imagine if there were even half the penalties...plot to keep score close?! ;-)
Nitwitter
Penalties, ESPECIALLY false starts when playing at home
are coaching failures. My ass would have never played HS ball if I had as many NZ infractions as our OLBs did today. All the penalties on A. Davis are because he stinks though.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
What did your point have to do with my original comment?
How did the Doomsday prediction of Troy’s performance work out.
He did well avoiding the pressure
part of that is because he didn’t stay in any pocket. He’d take 7 step drops and then take off. The coaching staff correctly compensated for our horrible RT which off-set many of the problems that would face a more traditional pocket passer.
He played a great game all the same, but I’m still concerned he’ll be able to sustain long drives against D’s that don’t give up big plays left and right. OJ was playing hurt so I’m not 100% sold yet.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
He played in the pocket plenty
But the entire game plan I think will benefit us next week. Roll him out often, rush outside often. Everyone has been stuffing the box and stopping us, but now, TB will be saying, ‘Hmmm… with Troy in, they focus on the outsides, we need to come with more outside blitzes, can’t give up the downfield throws." That is gonna prime them to get stomped on by Gore up the middle.
Lay off Davis
He’s a rookie and Chris Long is pretty dam good.
When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?" I miss the 90's.....
by crumpedup15 on Nov 15, 2010 12:01 AM PST up reply actions
Obviously you have a depth perception issue though
because I wasn’t replying to you. I was replying to Lok
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
The players
Still play and respond to his coaching. Look at the Cowboys, they played uninspired and now they still suck lol. Only when the team stop responding to his coaching should we start the discussion for new coaching staff.
I really like what we got working as OC, QB. They got me excited and nervous about 49ers football.
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
It was a great game for Troy.
If he can show me the same thing next week I’ll jump on the bandwagon. He concerns me that his normal routes and pocket passing don’t seem great but he can make big plays. So he might have trouble sustaining drives but he can make big plays. The big point for me was more than the yards or anything else was him overcoming the right side of our line which might be the laughing stock of the league.
Anthony Davis is a FLAT OUT BUST.
Gimme 1 round!
yeesh
It’s been 9 games. He’s certainly struggling but calling him a “FLAT OUT BUST” is short-sighted.
by David Fucillo on Nov 14, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
His problem is his footwork
I’ve been saying that since before the draft and there has been zero improvement. I’m beginning to think his balance is just terrible. He whiffs again and again because of his tiny first step then he starts leaning outside to overcorrect and gets beaten on outside-inside moves, spins and clubs.
I wrote a FP about this. If he turns it around it won’t be for a LONG time Foochie
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
We should send him out on one of the Most Dangerous Catch crab boats next season
Maybe instinct will kick in when he’s staggering around one of those boats and he’ll develop some balance and a good base.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
LOL
I like it cause it’s a suggestion. Anthony Davis on Deadliest Catch.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
We can have Mike Rowe do play-by-play.
Greenhorn Troy Smith dangerously rolls to the right to extend the play. Few survive this frigid area of the field as one can look at former deckhand Alex Smith’s shoulder.
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Currently the most dangerous catch in the world
is the shotgun snap from center when Anthony Davis is your RT
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
yea...
Not my favorite version of the name…
by David Fucillo on Nov 14, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'll try not to reuse it.
After this. Foochie Foochie fooooo
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
But he was drafted as a raw, project guy with insane talent. That insane talent got him into the starting lineup. But the raw, project stuff is going to be ongoing for a while. That was understood when he was drafted, and if it’s not understood now then there is something wrong.
He needs time. He was always going to need time.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 14, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
this
he’s had really good games too, so he’s not a bust. Granted he does struggle with upper level competition. He’s got to catch up to the competition is all. Another off-season and this experience he’s getting…he’ll be MUCH better next year.
Troy Smith is the MVP.............of the 4th Q of the Denver game.
Nitwitter
Staley didn't play well in his first year on the right side either
Davis will get better… I am sure he and Solari and Brown will be working on his play in the offseason.
"Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, either way, YOU'RE RIGHT !"
Yeah
Its not like he was going to best rookie linemen in the draft (oh wait we got him too). He is only going to learn by doing and he will get better. Everybody knew that this move had to be done and we have to deal with the pain of him making mistakes. But when he is on, you have to admit the boy is a beast!
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
I think its too early to tell on that one, he is a rookie only making his 9th start. He has had good games but he has also had bad game. A flat out bust wouldnt deserve to be on the field Anthony has shown enough to give him more time.
What good games?
I’d be willing to bet money he’s top 5 in the league in penalties.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
As of Halloween we were the most penalized team in the NFL
and Anthony Davis was our most penalized player. Consider he tacked on another 5 or 6 since then I’d be interested in seeing your source
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions
November 12th Alex Smith had 9 penalties and Anthony Davis had 7
He now leads the NFC West for sure according to Sando.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/tag/_/name/anthony-davis
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions
Considering he had 6 false starts
I think 7 penalties is on the low end. I’ve seen him commit at least a baker’s dozen worth of holding penalties.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
So what do you want to bet on it?
You said that Davis was the most penalized player in the league. I said that I was willing to bet that not only was he not the most penalized player in the league he’s not even the most penalized player in the NFC West. You’ve declined to accept the challenge? Can I assume you’re forfeiting?
Also
From David White at the Chronicle before the game: White: “Davis has given up six quarterback sacks and committed six false starts, tying him for second-most in the NFL in both categories. No one will say who allowed the sack that left Alex Smith with a separated left shoulder at Carolina, but it came through Davis’ side.”
BENCH HIM
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
So I was wrong about him being our most penalized player on Halloween
I don’t know where Alex racked up 9 penalties though. I know there were some grounding calls but I don’t remember 9 of them. That’s even including some of the more horrible calls.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
QBs get the penalty blame for delay of games too.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Davis has 7 total I believe
5 false starts, 1 hold, and a PF for the post-junk-grab-kidney-punch
Imagine if there were even half the penalties...plot to keep score close?! ;-)
Nitwitter
I dunno
I think he was prior to this week. I know Alex already had more. Ahmad Brooks might have passed him today. He does have a lot of penalties.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
He has less than one per game
which is pretty good.
BTW, one person who’s made a huge improvement on penalties is Vernon Davis. He’s had maybe 3 all season.
I think one fallacy fans have is expecting a guy to be perfect. He’s is always going to have a few penalties and give up a few sacks. There is Anthony Munoz and everyone else. I love Michael Oher but he got abused Thursday.
People do the same thing with the secondary. The key is if the player isn’t getting burned weekly. They are all going to give up plays.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
by bignerd on Nov 14, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
He's still WHIFFING consistantly
That is unacceptable.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:35 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of that goes to coaching
They leave the rookie on an island every game with no help, especially against some of the top pass rushers. It makes no sense to not throw in a TE or RB to help pass block. When your set up to fail, more times than not, you will.
He's not whiffing conssitently
he managed to successfully block Chris Long for most of that game. yeah Long beat him bad several times but right now Long is probably one of the top 3 or 4 defensive ends in the league.
He played very well in Atlanta and vs New Orleans if memory serves.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
and Denver
grated they have an inferior DL
Troy Smith is the MVP.............of the 4th Q of the Denver game.
Nitwitter
Why do they keep leaving him alone on an island?
He’s 20, he’ll come around
by EcERyda69 on Nov 14, 2010 9:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
He's 21 now
But his problem isn’t something that I think is going to be fixed by getting older. Its a huge developmental flaw in his technique which has not improved AT ALL.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
His problem is positioning and footwork, both will improve with experience. I agree that he has not gotten better, in fact he has been worse since gameplanned. But he needs help in-game. I will not call him a bust until he fattens up in the offseason and is not prepared for next season
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's completely rational
Anthony Davis is the guy who whiffed on a defender that destroyed Alex Smith. He’s obviously a huge Alex supporter so it makes sense to be that hard on A. Davis as a result.
by mr. instigator on Nov 15, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions
To be fair
He’s been hating on Anthony Davis prior to the draft, months before the draft.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
He must learn
plain and simple… He has to handle the fire and he will only get better by doing so. They have to see what they got with him. Not going to learn if he is constantly getting help.
Making him man up! lol
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
Davis is a bust?
They put him on an island. A ISLAND against some of the better DE in the game. Plus is he 21 which is really really young.
Kellen Moore is awesome
I think he is doing just fine. The guy is in desperate need of experience and awareness. Physically he has done well. I think he has been thrown to the wolves and he’s still fighting
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 9:53 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
that was not a mistake....
I totally set that up before the game I was like “Hey Davis! Whiff so Alice gets drilled and Troy can be the QB from now on!”
When is our QB going to answer questions like "You only threw 4 TD's today. What's wrong with the offense?" I miss the 90's.....
by crumpedup15 on Nov 15, 2010 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Wow just wow , your satement is just ignorant ...!!
I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!
another great comment
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffen
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Nov 15, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions
Davis just needs time
He shouldn’t be starting right now, he just isn’t being handled correctly.
by suffrin9erfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:50 AM PST up reply actions
He should be riding the bench or taking over for Chilo
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 5:34 AM PST up reply actions
he can't learn guard this quick
it’s all mental for the kid…moving him inside won’t help. Offseason move, maybe. I wouldn’t hate rotating Snyder in for him some to piss him off and light a fire under him. Not saying he’s lazy or not trying hard but guys sometimes play better when they have competition, which Davis has none
Troy Smith is the MVP.............of the 4th Q of the Denver game.
Nitwitter
There was something troy smith said that sets him apart from alex smith,troy said
‘’its on me’‘to get my players the ball,im sorry i can’t remember alex saying something like that now maybe im drinking that troy smith kool aid but i can’t remember alex saying that.If singletery tried to start alex next week against tampa i promise you jed york would call him n make him start troy.I looked up some of troys stats at ohio st. he put up some impressive stats there.Im glad gore ‘’ Had The Balls ’’to say troy needs to start + he’s the vet so its easy for him to voice that n i can understand crabtree not wanting to ‘’step on alex toes’‘being him not being here longer than alex.But it is what it is n we need to win every game n so far troy has us winning you roll with the hot hand n right now troy is ’’ infuego ’’did i get my spanish right???
by Jayubb415rebirth on Nov 14, 2010 9:47 PM PST reply actions
Leaders arent born they're made...
They are made through adversity and through surviving hardships. To me there is a difference between being someone who can throw a pass to an open receiver or evade a pass rush and someone who can lead a team down the field and face a 3rd & 32 and a 4th and 18 and still get the team the win.
Bingo
He just recongnize his opportunity to be the starting QB is gone. lol
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
Maybe Alex will develop into a leader because of the adversity he has faced. Too bad it can’t be here. He could replace Favre in Minny and we can watch him every week on FOX.
I like Troy, pass some kool-aid, I got the fever, and the cure is more Troy
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 9:58 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
i can't believe i'm defending favre
but alex smith couldn’t carry favre’s jock strap. i don’t want to see him stink it up on any nfl team. he’s painful to watch.
Alex Smith is garbage...
by redrum21225 on Nov 14, 2010 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
so your solution is...
Send him to Dallas? You little devil, let’s do it
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:07 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
YES!!!!!
that is definitely the team that I’d love to see him play for!
Alex Smith is garbage...
by redrum21225 on Nov 14, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I never said that and I agree with you but look at what they have in Arizona & Carolina tell me that a healthy Alex Smith isnt better than what they have
I agree if it a mid season replacement yes,I would rather take my chance on a unknown
than pick up someone who really hasn’t progressed over 5 years.
Yeah
Alex Smith starting is better them to have a strong chance of winning. Teams play to have Alex Smith beat them. They will take those odds over Gore(can’t blame them!). Troy is showing teams took pick your poison.
We have proof that we do have weapons on offense. Crabtree making that endzone look good right about now. VD got robbed (refs) and Walker (T. Smith favorite target) is getting some action and holding on to the ball lol.
Can we get 2 TEs in the Pro Bowl lol
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
As a backup? I wouldn’t hesitate
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:16 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yep, cause he is good for short bursts of goodness
But if my Starter got hurt long term, I would be mortified he is my only answer.
Thigpen may be the second best 3rd stringer in the league behind our Troy Smith
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree. Several planets have to align for Alex to start for any NFL teams in the future.
He’s a smart guy, hard worker, and a very good team mate. He’s a good passer given a solid pas protection and reliable receivers who run correct routes predictably.
He’s just not a very good QB. He lacks a fundamental necessity of NFL QBs : to throw accurately under pressure when the pocket is breaking down or outside the numbers when running out of the pocket.
He’s a system guy who needs a system in place. Maybe he’ll find it somewhere. I hope so. The Nolan NIners (and by extension, Sing’s Niners) were a horrible place for him. He never got the coaching he deserved. Too bad, I strenuously supported his getting a starting job this season. But now it’s time to close the book and move on.
by Mood_Indigo on Nov 14, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
He actually could be a good backup if he is not in position to challenge the starter. How funny would it be if he backs up Aaron Rodgers
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:18 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Where should he go then? I think staying is not realistic
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:46 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Backing up Rodgers is a cruel joke
I dunno. Some are speculating 10 coaching changes this offseason so it will be hard to project anyone’s destination.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
does anyone else think Norv Turner is like Andy Reid-West?
Team is always up and down but finds a way to make it to the post-season, has a good offense, big QB, high-powered..and every year fans are clamoring for someone’s head.
Troy Smith is the MVP.............of the 4th Q of the Denver game.
Nitwitter
Miami
Nolan won’t have anything to do with him save for passing him in the halls or being on the same practice field as him. Really someone will probably scoop him early then decide in camp if they want to keep him around or not. He’s not going to last long just because he’s started a lot of games and played well at times. 3rd string QB’s don’t even last that long once released. Heck, Leinart got a clipboard job pretty quick even.
Troy Smith is the MVP.............of the 4th Q of the Denver game.
Nitwitter
the rams
i’m worried about those cats. bradford is the truth. plus stephen jackson, and whoever they acquire in the draft. we might have that rivalry see new life. i think they’re going to end up being better than us for a long time if we don’t end up with the right QB.
Alex Smith is garbage...
Jackson was taking hard hits and getting up slow
he already had a broken finger he may not be around on our next meeting.
There is no doubt in my mind that we need to draft a QB this year. We have procrastinated too long. Either to push Troy, be groomed for the future, or provide depth. An FA like getting Carr is not going to help
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Troy would serve a valuable role by holding the job till a new drafted QB matures
He could be a long-term prospect as a solid back-up.
by Mood_Indigo on Nov 14, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
I want to see how we are gonna work Thaddeus Gibson involved in the future
and can we finally get NFL quality comers?
Is it too much...
for Singletary to praise Smith for things he did well, as opposed to saying, “He did some things well”? I mean, it’s like he is actively seeking reasons to start Alex Smith. I don’t need him up there claiming that he’s going to save or season, but maybe just some general comments about how well he played will give him the confidence of the coaching staff moving forward. We are 3-6 not 6-3. When Singletary realizes this, maybe he will acknowledge Troy Smith is our best option for the rest of the season. Just like the Vikings, this team will keep showing up despite the head coach, not for him.
by JSing on Nov 14, 2010 10:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Singletary
I’d imagine he figures he was sort of burned by supporting Smith whole-heartedly and he just doesn’t want to get too high or too low.
by David Fucillo on Nov 14, 2010 10:30 PM PST up reply actions
DF,
I agree with you, but the line has to be drawn somewhere between instilling confidence in a player and completely down playing their success. For him to say that Smith played well, then say he needs to play better in the same breath is ludicrous. And it’s not that I don’t agree with him, it’s just not the time and place to say it. Truthfully, we played sloppy today and some say we got “lucky” to win. Whether or not it’s true, the post game media address is not the place to say what he said. Smith played exceptionally well, given the circumstances, and at the very least deserves to have his coach’s “vote of confidence”. I think sometimes we forget that these guys are still human and that some positive reinforcement will help them in the long run. Singletary’s “tough love” approach is a double edged sword. You need to praise them when they deserve it but continue to insist on excellence, week in and week out. Let them feel good about this for the next twenty-four hours and save the criticism for practice and the film room. We are still 3-6 and this is not a reason to go out and party. But it’s a positive step forward in a season that has been pretty miserable up to this point. And I just don’t think Singletary is conveying this correctly.
by JSing on Nov 14, 2010 11:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
he takes Gore’s opinions on who our fullback should be, why not QB? If the players will fight for Troy, you’d think our HC would back him up. I agree that Sing needs to support players that are contributing to the wins
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:35 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe Frank the Tank should be the general manager too..
by Bob In Beaverton on Nov 15, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions
HC has to keep perspective
Especially with a young player who can still get better. As long as Troy leads the Niners to victory he will start. Keeping the Alex door open is more to get the next opponent to prepare for both QBs.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Coaches do that
keep players grounded! After super bowl win you will hear praises!
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
The rams should be very pleased with their progress in such a short time. That D-line has transformed under Spags.
by mcwagner on Nov 14, 2010 10:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Knew that was going to happen
He’s a good coach although Rams fans are already losing patience.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
Already?
He’s made them relevant with a top 10 defense. Future looks very bright in STL.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
Yep
But the fans are mad. Honestly I don’t think they saw Troy Smith coming and still haven’t realized he out ran all of Spags schemes (which worked). QBs aren’t suppose to complete passes when flushed out of the pocket but Troy did it all game.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
They seem solid from my view. They’re winning big at home and losing by slim margins on the road (minus the one mulligan in Detroit). This while their rookie QB has no worthy receivers to target. A bit more experience and they’ll likely finish these games. Heck, they may win the West this season. I expect them to beat Atlanta this weekend and finish with 7 wins. A six game improvement would be worth feeling good about.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
I also think Atl is being overrated right now
We should have beat them at their house but I still think Atl beats STL
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 3:50 AM PST up reply actions
Please
team showing major improvements. don’t have a legit go to WR (J. Jones from Alabama would be your best option). And have one of the best QB in the NFC west. If u guys are not patience, with being competitive then so be it. We will be more than happy to keep them down lol
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
Troy has potential
But he’s not a complete quarterback. Many of you are high on the win. That is because the D finally stepped up in overtime. Our D has had issues all year long and it continued today. Stupid penalties also nearly killed us.
I saw things in Troy I liked better then Alex, I also saw things that concern me and I like less than Alex. At this point I give the nod to Troy for two reasons – he has a quick release and a tight throw.
There were passes that were off a bit and had it been Alex, people here would be jumping all over him for those. It’s only because he’s still fairly raw and there is potential for further improvement that I think Troy gets the nod. I have issues with the lack of 3rd down production and some poor judgement that could have seriously hurt us (did hurt us?). At the end of the day, a big “W” heals most wounds. That said, don’t get overhyped on Troy. we need more bread-and-butter moving of the ball and not simply the big play. That won’t cut it long-run. This could easily have been a loss, and if it had been Troy would have had to take a fair share of the blame.
That said, I say he’s earned one more start. Lets see what happens next week…
He is a rookie
This is his 4th start in the NFL. Sure there are some things he could have done better, but this is a rookie I want to develop.
after today
it’s obvious that he’s better than alex smith. you’re right that he may not be a complete qb, but like someone already said, he’s basically a rookie. he’s hardly played in the nfl and look what he’s done for the 9ers. there’s no way i’d put alex in ever again. we should bring nate up in case troy gets hurt. let alex play the 3.
Alex Smith is garbage...
by redrum21225 on Nov 14, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
Colo niner
Sorry but your full of it. has potential …really how kind of you. How happy he must be hearing youd give him another start. Years of bad football under Alex and yheres things you like better that alex does. What may I ask?. Its so obvious the differences here that to even compare is laughable. He stretches the field and hits receivers in stride, moves well, and does everything better than Alex period. If theyed lossed it would of been his fault…..Really he threw numerous TDs called back. Again what nonsense.
by cmon niners on Nov 14, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
lossed? really?
come on dude. LOST
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
I guess at least it wasn't
loossed
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 14, 2010 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
whatever
thanks joe spellcheck. coming from your mispelled handle I see how Im out of my league with your white hot brilliance.
by cmon niners on Nov 14, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
Normally I wouldn’t say anything unless it’s horribly poor grammar or lack of punctuation… The other errors in your post weren’t enough for anything to be said but “lossed” is a vicious butchering of the English language. Something had to be said.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions
But seeing as how you want to want to poke the grammar bear...
Thanks Joe Spellcheck. Coming from your misspelled, (ironic to misspell – misspelled), handle, I see how I’m out of my league with your white-hot brilliance.
Capitalization rules, comma and apostrophe usage, the irony of misspelling “misspelled” and white-hot is used as 1 word and thus hyphenated.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
seeing as how you want to poke the grammar bear. ugh
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 1:13 AM PST up reply actions
Sigh...
That’s some pretty damned strong kool-aid you are drinking.
There was the dropped ball (fumble). Several knock-downs, the pass to Crabs? (don’t recall offhane) down the sideline that was pretty well off but we got a PI call. A semi-short pass that was not in stride the reciever adjusted for and got excellent YAC. A GREAT effort by VD on the TD that came back, but wasn’t really well thrown. A bad decision on 3rd down (2nd quarter I think, don’t recall the specifics, just the image of Sing giving him a talking to afterwards). I could go on. The supporting players really made some efforts and I think the play calling had the RAM’s D stymied for a while. Troy play well enough. Our D remains an issue no matter who starts at QB.
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 14, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions
strong koolaid huh
good lord man, Forget about Troy and use your same mindset on Alex….He sucks so bad Id take anyone who stands upright and breathes oxygen to lead this team over Alex. Just happens that after 2 games Its painfully obvious that this former heisman is 100 times better than the QB that Ive seen flailng away for years. No koolaid involved
by cmon niners on Nov 15, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
By the way
Bashing Troy and I guess lifting Alex up again and again seems to be your Koolaid of choice. Drunk that …..Way to bitter for me.
by cmon niners on Nov 15, 2010 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
"He gets the nod"? Really? Really?
456 yards, 0 INTs and what should have been 4 TDs, but for stupid penalties/bad refereeing and all he gets is a nod? When is the last time you saw such a display from a QB wearing a Niner uniform?
by suffrin9erfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:55 AM PST up reply actions
Sry typo, I meant 356 yards.
Give him a couple of seasons to have a 450+ yard game :)
by suffrin9erfan on Nov 15, 2010 4:59 AM PST up reply actions
Sigh, again...
There was a LOT of luck involved.
Look, I am NOT saying Alex is better. I am just tempering the enthusiasm for Troy. There were games Alex would have won if not for the defense collapsing and/or play calling (The Saints?). Mike J is growing as a play caller, which certainly is a part of it.
I like Troy’s arm, and quick release but saw enough to expect that as soon as defenses have some film on him it could get rocky. We’ll have to wait and see. I just don’t think you make a permanent change after 2 games. (London was pretty ugly, but it was his first start).
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 15, 2010 8:39 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if the tape will matter as much as you think
he’s spreading the ball out to whomever is open…he’s got everyone involved. So far I feel pretty good that he’ll beat you one way or another.
Imagine if there were even half the penalties...plot to keep score close?! ;-)
Nitwitter
that saints game was a greatly called game. Smith and the offense didn't put up enough points and had ample oppurtunity to do so.
2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!
There’s never going to be a game where a quarterback doesn’t get lucky a few times, though. I think when you start looking for something, you find it. The easiest thing to fall into is a confirmation bias. And I’m not necessarily saying that’s what you’re doing, but it does sound like you were looking specifically for plays that should have gone poorly and didn’t. And you’ll always find them when that is your express aim. I could probably point to just as many plays where it should have gone well and didn’t.
How much of that is just normal variance and how much of that is really worth being concerned about?
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 15, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
I read a few national media columns
and neither of the two I read (A PFT piece and Lombardi’s weekly recap on NFLNet) had anything to say about Troy being “lucky” or scary or anything.
The reason I bring this up is I usually expect skepticism from the national media outlets…but I think they saw Troy for what he is…a gamer who tries to make plays when things break down.
Imagine if there were even half the penalties...plot to keep score close?! ;-)
Nitwitter
Baalke and Parrag are probably running the numbers thru the spreadsheet
If he wins the next two (TB and at Arizona), they’ll call his agent.
starting QB
If Sing cant see troys obviously a much better qb than sing needs to go. Sing still cant name his starter….Im sorry thats crazy talk. I think they need to release alex and carr and promote davis as a backup to get him ready in case troy goes down. 6 years of this ….Im done. If not axe Sing, end of story.
No worries
On whether Troy Smith should start:
Gore: "Yes, I feel that."
Sing is just trying not to call anyone out in public. Players have Troy’s back. Remember Sing picked up Troy and decided to start him in lieu of Carr. He’s just being low key on the inevitable.
Of course there are some willing to argue that a player like Gore doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or that his comment is premature or negligent. I mean after all, he’s only been this team’s MVP since ‘05. So, you know, there’s a chance a random fan or two might know more about QBs that give this team a better chance to win (e.g., "Gore’s a RB and hasn’t played or know enough about QB’ing in this league"). They tend to selectively bring up stats like 3rd down and red zone, while omitting turnover ratios, passer ratings, completion percentages, and yardage. There are also “if this, if that” and “could have been, should have been” type of high level assessment. In other words, they bring that level headed analysis to the fore front because it’s just so darn rational, not to mention logical. And oh, almost forgot my favorite: "it’s too soon to crown him." There’s always a few of these phrases because after only 4 career starts he’s being hailed as “king”. Yep, it’s everywhere (if you can find it).
You? You just want to win and see what gives you the best chance. You’re tired of the last 6 years. Suffice to say not everyone wants this and would wait insurmountable years to develop a 2000 Ravens/85 Bears defense just (if not only) to give Alex a chance to succeed. Oh, and throw in Tom Brady’s offensive line for good measure too (in case that Ravens/Bears D isn’t enough).
by 4956_V on Nov 15, 2010 12:54 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
I would say pretty definitively Gore doesn't know what he's talking about on much of anything
I’d be interested to see his SATs cause I have strong doubts he actually scored high enough to play division 1 ball. The U is very unscrupulous. His wonderlic score borders on illiterate.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
even accounting for that...
that is truly, staggeringly low.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:44 AM PST up reply actions
Why disrespect the hardest working player on our team?
It seems like your just trolling, nothing better to do?
Because a 6 is just a joke dude
It means he got through college while struggling to read the Cat in the hat. Nate Davis’ 11 is too low for a QB, especially 1 that doesn’t have a tremendous work ethic. But a 6 is too low for a factory worker. I wouldn’t trust a person that got a 6 to push a big red button once an hour.
Gore is a workhorse and carries a football well but I certainly wouldn’t care for his opinion on anything strategy related. If he walked outside and told me the moon is bright right now I’d double check just to make sure the sun isn’t up yet.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 1:33 AM PST up reply actions
Overrated
I’m willing bet that Dan Marino is five IQ points smarter than Nate Davis but it didn’t make one iota difference in Dan’s career.
Did you ever hear the story of Bill Walsh trying to talk offense to Dan? After Bill pegged Dan with a few poignant questions on how it did it (play QB) Dan says, “I dunno. I just throw it to the guy open”.
"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"
Marino operated how many SB winning offenses?
Couldn’t get it done at the highest level for all his huge stats. A smart QB runs an offense strategically doesn’t just huck the ball around. Elway became a smart QB as he got older. When he was younger he was a gunslinger and it didn’t get him anywhere except best team in the AFC.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 3:53 AM PST up reply actions
The strawman was just for fun
Marino actually had a 16 on the Wonderlic which is functional intelligence. He’s not a genius but he’s as smart as your average joe. 13 is about the cutoff for QBs as they have to understand every facet of an offense including the O-line protections, hot routes and audibles. Nate and his 11 has never proven capable of learning O-line protections to this point. Is that score an indictment of his intelligence? To this point I’d say yes. Hopefully for him he’ll bust his ass and overcome. I doubt it though.
Gore doesn’t need a high wonderlic. Running is instinctive. I also just don’t see any need to take him anymore seriously if he chimes in big picture football strategy than I do if he’s talking politics, theology or the economy.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:28 AM PST up reply actions
Elway became a smart QB?
Smart enough to hand the ball off? You are full up on hater juice…….
2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!
Please dude,
Just leave now. How are you gonna say that about the best player on the team? So what, you don’t want Gore to play in the NFL because he’s not as smart as you? So what, the mentally handicapped kids you see scoring touchdowns in high school games, you think they shouldn’t have that? Because they are not as intelligent as you are? I’m sure you have seven Masters degrees and what-not. and help feed the needy and you sh** rainbows and doves, but just do yourself and everyone else a favor and leave. There is no reason to come on a fan blog and disrespect the best weapon we have. That just doesn’t make any sense.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 15, 2010 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
Besides
you’re too good for this place. A bunch of uneducated hicks here. I wouldn’t want you to get dumbed down hanging around us.
by mountaindew77 on Nov 15, 2010 2:25 AM PST up reply actions
Neither would I
Thankfully I’ve found a solution. Reading your posts can slow my neurons to a single digit wonderlic-like crawl but I can counter-balance the effect by reading some T.S Eliot, Poe or something else equally awesome.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:02 AM PST up reply actions
Prufrock is a cool poem.
In 2010, teammates Aubrey Huff and Pat Burrell perfected the art of brotational hitting.
by howtheyscored on Nov 15, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Gore can give you financial advice for all I care... or better yet
please, since you hold his opinions in such esteem, feel free to take his advice on the best course of action to undertake the next time one of your charges is ill. I’m sure he’ll be happy to opine and give you well thought-out and relevant medical advice.
Personally, I think he’s fun to watch carry a football, he’s a tough guy and he’s no-quit competitor but he makes Forrest Gump look like Henry Kissinger. Thus, I kinda ignore everything he has to say about strategy.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:22 AM PST up reply actions
But I'm definitely not a 6 on the wonderlic idiot
I scored a 35
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:46 AM PST up reply actions
and would have done more if I wasn't so stubborn to stop and actually do the math problems
instead of just blazing through all the verbal questions first.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 15, 2010 4:47 AM PST up reply actions
That should come in handy...
in your office’s Fantasy Football League.
If intelligence was the key to football, schools like U Miami, FSU, and Alabama wouldn’t be good at it. Lucky for us, we get to watch Frank Gore break records and don’t have to watch ItBurnzWhenIP name drop famous authors after a big victory.
I do not understand why you even began this whole “I’m smarter than Frank Gore” tangent, but its completely irrelevant. Stop taking the Wonderlic test in some lame attempt to prove your worth over world class athletes. There is a reason there aren’t blogs dedicated to talking about your daily job performance
by Rdubya on Nov 15, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
wow
That put me in my place and it wasn’t even directed to me.
When I was in athletics I often wondered what the top guys were saying to each other, what great techiniques and plans they must be circulating between each other. More often than not those heated conversations were about diet coke tasting just as good as regular. These guys are jocks, usually the dumb guy is great because he feels the game and plays on instinct instead of thinking up a formula not to pass it to the open guy. Alex is one of the most intelligent players to suit up and that brain has only gotten him in trouble. I don’t care if the guy can’t tie his shoe laces but can burst up the middle for a 25 yard gain.
Scores
A breakdown of the scoring looks like this:
50= highest possible score, superior intelligence
21= average intelligence
14= equivalent to unskilled worker
Below 14= moron
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill shankly
A list of players and their wonderlic scores
Starting with one of our own:
Steve Young: 33
Eli Manning: 39
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Tom Brady: 33
Aaron Rodgers: 35
Donovan McNabb: 14
Brian Griese: 39
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill shankly
How its scored
Sample WPT Scale:
Based on the number you answered correctly within the time limit on the sample WPT, you could project your score on the 50-item test like this:
9 correct= 50 4 correct= 22
8 correct= 44 3 correct= 17
7 correct= 39 2 correct= 11
6 correct= 33 1 correct= 6
5 correct= 28 0 correct= 0
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill shankly
Show me Andre Johnson, Chris Johnson, DeMarcus Ware, D Revis, and Adrian Peterson, then post Alex Smith's then this wonderlic talk should cease!!!
2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!
What impressed me about Troy on offense
He put up 23 points (plus the called back TDs) without help of one turnover from the defense or any return yards from special teams. The field position all second half was awful; I think his own 29-yard line was the best starting spot. Doing this against the #10 defense who constantly put pressure on the pocket speaks well of his ability. He also did not turn the ball over which will keep us in every game.
With two games of film on him future teams will game plan him better but few will rush the QB as well as STL. I hope that he continues to progress and mature in this offense and as his own player. He seem in sync with his receivers, so if/when he and MJ can utilize the full playbook he may do bigger and better things.
Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.
A lot of love
for Troy out in the media. He made plays for us when we needed him to. I never felt that confidence in Alex to say “Okay, Alex can get us one drive” … Never. Granted two games isn’t a whole lot, and teams are going to have a lot more for game-planning, but from what I have seen, it looks like we finally may have a real QB again. Sure, I was on the Hill bandwagon when he came off the bench and we all know how that worked out, but there is just something about Troy that makes me believe. There is just something about the guy.
Even just seeing him all pumped up on the sideline with Crabtree… We started to like an offense. You could tell the whole team, even the defense seemed fired up. Only two games back and we still get to play the Cardinals twice, the Rams again (which will be tough in StL) and we aren’t going to lose the revenge game to the Seahawks at home. Combine that with the 3/4 wins and momentum we have with a fresh QB… I believe.
Please don’t break my heart Troy. I couldn’t take it.
I was going to give Troy three games to prove he could be the starter.
Dude only needed two.
Unless he has a terrible day against Tampa Bay, he’s got the job, Now, I think he’s on a high and he is not going to play like that every game, so don’t expect him to, but he has a lot of things we have lacked at QB for a long time: accuracy, game-smarts, big play ability, mobility and the ability to make a completion out of a blown play.
The little Heisman winner that could
by mcwagner on Nov 15, 2010 8:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Awesome lol
Bass a man of few words, but it seem to hit the nail on the head. These guys are excited!
>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!
Troy
It’s still too early to know how good he is. It’s more exciting watching him than Alex, and his poise and confidence are much better. He has more command. But in perspective, he played against the Broncos and Rams. He has also made some dumb decisions with the football. He gets reckless. He was also sacked 5 times, so for all the praise he gets for extending a play, he gets dropped just as often. I’m hoping he doesn’t prove to just be a different flavor of failure, but only time will tell.
I think our biggest problem is still in the coaching. Why are we going toe-to-toe with the Broncos and Rams? Why are all of our wins nail biters until the end? This leads me to believe that maybe Troy isn’t that much better than Alex, as the QB position in general has been marginalized and abused.
by mr. instigator on Nov 15, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thank you
For being rational. We only moved the ball thanks to a lot of big plays. You can’t count on that. There were also plenty of bad decisions. Things just happened to work out for us this time.
Since game 1 I have been harping on coaching. That is the one constant and that will remain a problem through the end of the season no matter who the QB is.
by ColoradoNiner on Nov 15, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
the big plays were there, we exploited them
if they weren’t there, we’d try something else. We can play the “what might have happened” game all day. Maybe we’ll have a game with nice short plays that methodically move down the field…I don’t really care how we win but I also don’t go into the game thinking “man, I hope we have a ton of big plays or else we’re screwed!”
Imagine if there were even half the penalties...plot to keep score close?! ;-)
Nitwitter

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