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49ers-Buccaneers Preview: Mike Singletary vs. Raheem Morris

One of the biggest concerns for 49ers fans in 2010 has been the coaching staff. A lot of times there is the usual instantaneous reaction to events. A perfect example of that comes when the 49ers go three and out and folks immediately complain about Mike Johnson. Greg Manusky has certainly received his fair share of criticism throughout the season as well.

However, the one consistent it seems has been criticism of head coach Mike Singletary. There have been a variety of instances all season long where it feels like Singletary has been out-coached with relative ease. That makes this weekend's matchup with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers all the more interesting. The Bucs are one of the more amazing stories in the NFL as they are 6-3 after an ugly 3-13 season last year. There has been plenty of discussion among Bucs fans about Morris and there appear to be some similarities between Morris and Coach Singletary. In the Ask Bucs Nation there was some discussion about Morris. Here is the exchange:

chikmagnet_565

Do you guys believe in Raheem Morris?
From the moment he was hired I thought he would be a tremendous failure.
I was right in the 2009 season because it was a disaster.
I'm guessing that you guys have some excellent assistant coaches that have done a great job of developing Freeman and have saved Morris' [site decorum]

To me, he's just Mike Singletary without the credibility.

Sander (from Buc 'Em)

I see you know nothing of Raheem Morris
Opinions about Morris are split in the fanbase. But Raheem Morris was a stellar defensive backs coach (and did very well as a DC in college for a year) who got promoted quickly, probably in part because the owners didn't want to lose him.

While you can doubt his schemes, you cannot doubt the job he's done to get these players motivated, believing in themselves and fighting through every game. This is an extremely young football team that is winning games despite its youth, and hasn't really missed a beat despite many injuries. That's a credit to the head coaching job Raheem Morris has done.

Is this a matchup Mike Singletary can win on Sunday, or does it even really matter? I don't think we've ever resolved who exactly is to blame for the volume of penalties and that's really what seemed to shoot the 49ers in the foot so frequently last week and thus far this season. I suppose this question applies to the rest of the season as well, but can the 49ers continue winning in spite of their coaching?

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I'm really surprised at what Morris has been able to do over there.

But Singletary and Morris are night and day. Morris motivates with encouragement while Singletary yells and talks down to his players.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 7:35 AM PST reply actions  

I disagree

Singletary can be intimidating but when we’ve heard him “mic’d up” he doesn’t sound like a belligerent [site decorum]
He encourages his guys and believes in them. He’s always clapping.

As for Morris:
What has he really done?
Their defense is very bad (and that’s his unit) and the only bright spot has nothing to do with him (Aquib Talib and Ronde Barber were already good)

As I said in the original post:
I credit the QB coach and the offensive coordinator.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I have heard Sing mic'd up too...

And with certain players he basically demoralizes them.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

He has his "favorites" on the team and it shows.

Take Jason Hill for example. Everytime he was on the field he made plays. Sing didn’t like him, so he sat a majority of the time.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 9:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I see where you're coming from

But can’t we say that about a lot of coaches (not just NFL, but college and HS too)?

I mean, Singletary clearly doesn’t “like” David Carr but it’s not like it’s a bad thing.

I was just saying that Raheem Morris isn’t really hot stuff. He’s gotten lucky with a franchise QB.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t recall Jason Hill doing anything of note since 2008, pre or regular season. Then he was cut and no one claimed him. He’s been cut again and I don’t think he’s yet to be signed. It seems like we fans have hopes for him that exceeds what he can/has done. That’s not the fault of the HC.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Jacksonville claimed him right away.

And everytime he got on the field he did something. Don’t know what team you have been watching. He didn’t get a lot of time because of Singletary and his dislike for him. Fact.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He obviously lacks in other areas of the game. Offense is not just routes and catching for a WR.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He wasn't claimed in September

And I can not recall a play of significance since 2008. If he was that good of a player he would have received PT. Fact. Sing has shown no issue in replacing players if the guy on the bench is better, be it QB, WR, CB. He’s certainly not going to keep a guy on the bench that would’ve helped the QB whose confidence he was trying to rebuild.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

He made plays last year...

He kept plays alive for Alex on a few different occasions.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

He's not doing something. You can't call it a fact that it's something personal.

he is doing something to not get himself on the roster.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Look at the results when he's been on the field (not often)

They speak for themself. Results are all that matters and Hill produced when given the chance. Obviously it was personal.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

When somebody screws up he certainly seems frustrated by it but we only hear a limited amount of what he says. It’s entirely possible he’s working with them later to explain the problem. Maybe he doesn’t, but to judge somebody from a few MIc’d up comments doesn’t quite work in my opinion.

by David Fucillo on Nov 19, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

There has been press conferences too… it’s not just a few mic’d up comments. His general demeanor toward certain players is just wrong IMO.

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

He hardly ever bashes his players in the media. he sure as hell could, and it would be justified with some of their play.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

He actually isn’t harsh when talking about his players to the media, thus the complaints and jokes here during his pressers about how he doesn’t say anything, or why doesn’t call out players or name a starter before talking to the player.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I know, right?

Shaking my head at some of the posters, I’m just saying.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Like Muhammed Ali and Michael J. Fox shaking...

that sucks for you.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Trash

Complete trash. not surprised.

by drums7890 on Nov 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

It was a joke...in bad taste? Maybe... but I didn't resort to name-calling. Like...ah-hehm...some. ^

And I actually respect lott (not his opinion all the time) but I think it is mutual…so we can joke like that with one and other. He takes jabs at me sometimes too…so… MIND YA BIZ!!

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

it was in bad taste

Let’s try and stay away from the Parkinson’s jokes. Look what happened to Antonio Margarito after he decided to make fun of Freddie Roach’s Parkinsons!

by David Fucillo on Nov 21, 2010 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh wow

not cool Drew.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 21, 2010 1:49 AM PST up reply actions  

He does it in a round about way...

not to mention his job is on the line… he is walking on thin ice as it is. If he does it openly, then his head would fall.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

But I have hard video evidence to the contrary of his presence in the locker room with the players.

And also further justification for the fact that I just refer to Troy Smith as “Black Jesus”.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2010/11/17/1820599/mike-singletary-and-troy-smith-locker-room-speech

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

This obviously conluding a win ...not a loss.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I got it!

Singletary can save his job and make everybody happy if he can just, keep… winning….

Just Keep Winning!

Man, wait ’til the rest of the NN community hears about this. I feel like I just discovered the cure for cancer!

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Good job!

sarcasm is officially your first language

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much

It is a really slow day at the office.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

So take the "kick the beehive and see what comes out" approach?

I like it

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep

I try to be more self-deprecating than insulting though- I really do enjoy our discussions.

Most of my sarcastic comments are written in the voice of the guys from Dumb and Dumber- hopelessly clueless but completely self-important.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

And he still managed to plant a negative seed...

Ummm… “enjoy this but you guys left a lot out there” = (blame & finger-pointing).

Translation: You guys won but played like crap and me and the guys aren’t taking blame for that ugliness. You got lucky… but enjoy it cause it’s not gonna last.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong attitude to me...

need to build confidence in his players.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

You do have a point there

Plus, he looked sadder than a Sad Panda doing the media afterwards, like he looked seriously distressed. I really thought he was gonna cold clock Radnich. I got my popcorn and had the record finger at the ready.

But I don’t know that that necessarily brings the players down, either. I’ve heard Singletary described as the kind of guy that boosts his players when they’re down, and tries to keep them grounded when they’re flying high.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

He was correct

And I was pleased to see some players, especially vets Spikes & Baas, echoing this after the game. The goal is not just to win but improve over the course of the season and be a good (and maybe one day great) team. Settling for an OT win when points wre taken off the board due to penalities, and points were given up due to penalties is something that should be satisfactory. That would be setting the bar low and eventually lead to complacency around being average.

The bar must be set high. Our former HOF players have said that. Former coaches have said it. It’s what the best and most stable teams do now. Why would be want less from our HC or team leaders? Would it really be better for Sing to parade around thrilled with an OT win over a 4-5 team, sugar-coating the mistakes made by players on a day his team almost cost themselves victory due to some self-inflicted penalties?

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

He seems harsher in games but more of a teacher at paractice which may be the opposite of most other coaches. Steve Young always talks about how angry Walsh would get or how Holmgren would rip into a player for doing something dumb. Ronnie Lott has said the same thing about Seifert and Rhodes as coaches. I think those things get forgotten because it was so long ago and coaches weren’t mic’d back then.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

And they were winning......

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Its true when we went 8-8 last year

The Media was claiming that Sing could be coach of the year the next year.

Kellen Moore is awesome

by manraj7 on Nov 19, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The difference

Those coaches stayed on course and brought the best out in each player. Players don’t need to be demoralized. Constructive critisism is fine…

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

You and I define demoralized differently. And if Sing was demoralizing his players I think you would have seen a revolt by now, his second full season with the job. At the least they would have stopped playing for him, an easy default behavior when you’re already losing, expectations are in the toilet and the media blames the coach. But they didn’t and haven’t. They still speak of him with great respect and appreciation for his directness and honesty. I’m thinking the players know best on this one.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

They have been revolting... they aren't "playing" for him.

He lost the team a while back.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Speculation

Not showing as fact on the field or in their communication re the HC.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 20, 2010 12:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Singletary

Seemed much better before the season with all his talks and “motivation” but failed in crunch time, Morris on the other hand did it quietly and is showing it with results not talks.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill shankly

by demise on Nov 19, 2010 8:03 AM PST reply actions  

All Morris does is talk.

I don’t think he is a bad coach, but he seems to be rather arrogant. I would worry about him long term even though he is doing a pretty good job so far.

by Joshuahss on Nov 19, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

As 9er fan.....

I have to agree w/ the Bucs on this one. Morris is a pretty good coach; he has done much more motivating a very young Bucs team into winning games compared to Sing. Plus that is a very respectible overall record that he has over there in a very competive NFC South. When he got that job he had less talent surrounding him than when Sing got the HC job here

by Kidd2Petrovic on Nov 19, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Your right in close games.....

but that’s when its the HC & QB’s coaches job to pull the starting qb & go in a different direction instead of hanging on sooooo long its almost too late

by Kidd2Petrovic on Nov 19, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Our QB sucks, well the one we had when we lost the close games. Not to mention you have a better secondary.

So in two minute drills vs the Bucs D, they are not a likely to give up big plays as the 49ers.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Morris's QB won close games

Sing’s QB did not. In today’s NFL, a HC is as good as their QB. Check out Indy as an example.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Morris's QB is better

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Imagine

if we had Morris as a coach, we would have an almost (KC Still wins) perfect record by now.

"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill shankly

by demise on Nov 19, 2010 8:05 AM PST reply actions  

If we had TB's schedule

We would be at least 6-3 too:

Browns
Panthers
Steelers
(Bye)
Bengals
Saints
Rams
Cards
Falcons
Panthers

Their second half is much harder, and ours is much easier. Will you admit Mike Singletary is better than Raheem Morris if we end up with a better record when all is said and done?

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude we lost o Carolina and Seattle

And was stomped by a KC team that just got crushed in Denver

let’s not start crying about our schedule

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The season has been a disappointment

But there have been many factors that have contributed to it.
It’s not just Mike Singletary and his attitude.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course not

But Sing is the head coach and the responsibility falls on his shoulders. When you talk the game he talked stuff if going to come back on you when things go south.

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 9:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure does

But we do have to acknowledge other factors:
Jimmy Raye sucking early on
D. Goldson having a Mark Roman-like year
Anthony Davis’ brutal inconsistency
Front Office putting all their eggs in the Alex Smith basket

I don’t like how the team keeps shooting itself in the foot. But I am impressed that Singletary hasn’t let the locker room go to [site decorum].
Not a single player has given up on the season.
There are no Mike Jenkins on this team….

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:26 AM PST up reply actions  

All of the above is true

But Sing’s tunnel vision helped put them in this spot to begin with. I respect the way he’s moving forward but the man is just not fit to be an NFL head coach at this point of his career. College is a better fit right now.

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I still think he can do it

I do agree that he should have just taken the Baylor job though.

But if the 49ers can keep improving I don’t see any reason to get rid of Singletary.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd love to see us make the playoffs

A win this weekend and I think it very well could happen

but it would be nothing more than fools gold in the big picture… were talking about a 9-7 or 8-8 season if it happens. That speaks more to the division we play in than it does to how Sing coached up our talent. I’ve said it for the last couple years but I really see Sing as a 500 type coach. It’s who he is. If you want to make the jump to the next level you’re going to have to bring in someone else.

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Not really, we were in position to win 3 games that we lost.

More points from the O, or some mental mistakes fromt he defense are the reason that isn’t the case. Sing has coached up our talent, and he is more than a .500 type coach, it’s just not as easy as typing it, when you take over dysfunctional team.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

What are you basing your

“Tunnel Vision” comment on?

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Well you can start with Jimmy Raye

And the idea of “smash mouth” football. Sing seems like one of those guys that wants to fit the personnel with his philosophy instead of the other way around…. even when this has failed in the past he comes right back to it again the following year. What makes it even worse is the guy doesn’t even know how to go about creating the offense he wants. He’s dependent on others to make his “vision” a reality.

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

That "style" is working

In PIttsburgh, New York, Baltimore and Atlanta. The difference? Those teams’ QB makes plays when asked. Prior to three weeks ago, that was not the case in SF.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The difference is those teams have better defenses

and can get away with playing that style… although I’d argue the Ravens air it out a lot more now than Sings teams have (not counting last week)

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

A more open and reckless style, with an average QB, would have created just as many if not more problems for this team. Less Gore and more Alex Smith means a worse than 3-6 record. The two easy to fix problems on offense were Raye and poor QB play from Alex. Sing addressed the former quickly and the latter when an opportunity arose.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 2:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You're wrong on the concept, it's a balnce attack.

People see the big husky LB as the Coach that drafted to maulers and say smash mouth. But look at what is being done with the offense, as I have said you don’t see Sing on his mic in between plays, until it’s fourth down. it’s the OC’s offense.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

This probably isn't going to convince you

But I can vouch for the fact that Mike Singletary has consistently denied the “3 yards and a cloud of dust” mentality from day one, at every press conference, Q&A, interview, whatever. Every Single Time.

I truly believe he meant to say that he wasn’t going to turn the team into a pass-first offense, and that he wasn’t going to resort to trick plays or deceipt. He wanted to be able to have his guys play at such a high, physical level, that it could be an obvious 4-and-1 running play, where the opposing D knew it was coming, and still couldn’t stop it.

This is as opposed to, say, running a fake punt or something to try to sneak one by.

I don’t find anything wrong with that approach to this day. Any lingering doubts I had about his “style” were completely eradicated seeing Mike Johnson playing out of Jimmy Raye’s playbook with Troy at the helm.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully your gameplan prevents the D from knowing anything is coming.

That’s a dumb approach to begin with.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Not at all

I mean, obviously, you don’t want them knowing every one of your plays.

But the true test of a physical team is when it’s unavoidable- there are all 11 dudes lined up between the hashes on a 4th-and-inches. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist, you know?

Now, even with them knowing it’s coming, if your team can go out there and purely out muscle those guys on a consistent basis to move the chains, you’re gonna have a championship team. Plus if you can work in deception and solid gameplanning, you’ve suddenly become unstoppable.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes you are out muscled and in turn need to out smart someone.

….just sayin’

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

If you don't have that then you lose

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course

Which is why no one’s ever won all 19 games in a season.

Sure, epic coaching can make up for deficiencies, but consistently (keyword here, consistent) good enough coaching with good enough physicality and good enough discipline is better than 90% of the league.

I bet you could even average the different factors out, to where like Troy was outstanding on Sunday, the coaching was good-outstanding, but the discipline was atrocious. It averaged out and we got the win, but barely. Improve the discipline and keep the other aspects locked, and we would have creamed a pretty decent Rams team.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm definitely disagreeing here, I mean the man has posted a perfect record when the QB has a rating of 96 or higher.

If not for the QB play, the 49ers would easily be atop the division. Also the hiring of Raye, which is Sing’s hire, but at the time of the hiring, if you don’t understand the “why” you’re not verry open minded. Raye would never bolt for a HC job. And despite what Johnson has done, T SMith, threw for more yards in just 6 or 7 practices than Smith has all season.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

And a big reason why is Troy is taking chances

Chances that Sing and company conditioned Alex not to take. Hearing Sing talk about “reining in” Troy reminds us all of just what Sing thinks a QBs role is. You have to take chances to make plays… I’d say the reason we’ve lost so many close games in because we left games close that didn’t have to be.

by sactownbull on Nov 19, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Completely Ignoring

the multiple press conferences where both Jimmy Raye and Singletary made comments about Alex just getting out of his own head and making the plays as they’re called?

Then yeah, I agree with your statement.

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by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Alex could’ve taken those same chances. Heck, maybe he did and those were plays where he overthrow receivers deep or threw an INT. Troy is more accurate and better at assessing when and where to take a chance. That makes him a better QB than Alex, not Sing a better or worse coach.

I would also think that Troy would agree that he can get better, which includes knowing when to take risks and not. He’s not a finished product and still needs coaching.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Ok so...

If responsibility ultimately falls on the shoulders of the Head Coach for the performance of the team, we should be over the moon that he’s one QB away from winning 4 of the last 4 games, and went 3 for 4 despite the DCE (David Carr Effect)?

Again I’ll pose the question: If the team wins out the next few games, will you start singing Sing’s praises as enthusiastically as you have criticized him at the beginning of the season?

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by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

With TB's schedule, Niners would probably be lucky to be 3-6

With wins over Panthers and Rams at home, and perhaps the Browns at home. With Niners’ abysmal record with early games, I have no reason to be sure they would beat the Bengals on the road.

Tampa Bay is yet to play Washington, Seattle and Detroit. With two more wins they will be 0.500, something the Niners would be lucky to achieve with a weaker schedule than Tampa.

For objective metrics for judging a coaching staff’s performance, I primarily look at the W-L record for the season, change in W-L from last season (if applicable), number of penalties per game, turnover margin, and third-down conversion efficiency.

There are also subjective criteria like clock management, how they develop new players, whether they have the team playing together in tough times and in good times, whether they are getting most out of the existing talent, whether their game planning hides the weaknesses effectively and attacks the other team’s weaknesses, etc.

I haven’t compared all the objective metrics between TB and Niners. But my first guess would be that Morris and his staff is doing a substantially better job than SIng and his staff to this point.

by Mood_Indigo on Nov 19, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

With a different QB Niners could be 9-0

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh jeez

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yes, you can say just about anything when you include IF.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

With a different coaching staff, the Niners could be 9-0 too

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

That response is just an example of how openly bogus that comment was. You can say anything with an if in front.

With better QB play, there is only one game we would have lost, and we may have had a better game then. Only person in that locker room with tunnel vision is A Smith.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like an "IF" to me..

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

and if that is the case and your view on things...

then it is the COACHING STAFFS FAULT for not making the switch sooner. This fly-by-the-seat-of-your-pants approach is for the birds.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Only thing that remains consistent with the current coaching staff is inconsistency

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I would love

To see your analysis of those Strength of Schedule factors. I gave it a shot earlier in the season, and determined that the Niners played about as well as the rest of the division against their opponents W/L, it just happened to be several opponents in a row.

But that was before even the Raider game I believe, and I’m pretty sure I messed up the data anyways, so I’d love to see what the data you pull can tell you about our season vs last.

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by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweet

 I’ll check it out. Thanks!

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by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

What?

How can you possibly know that?

What can Morris bring to the 49ers?
Poor run defense?
Invisible pass rush?

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Magic 8-Ball

Believe.

Would the 49ers be magically delicious under Raheem Morris instead of The Worst Team Ever Of All Time Forever because of Mike Singletary?

Can’t argue with logic like that, don’t even try.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Worst team ever? We have gone 2-14......

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah But That Was With A GOOD Coach

Not Coach Worst Person In the World!

I’d rather go 2-14 with Gruden than 14-2 with Singletary.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

I mean, Dingleberry

Dumbletary?

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by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? you would take a high name coach and lose then a "bad" coach and win?

and isn’t winning the definition of a good coach? Also 2-14 was with Walsh and at that time he wasn’t a good coach.

Kellen Moore is awesome

by manraj7 on Nov 19, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

How Dare You

Walsh was a Saint.

And I’m also just exaggerating the criticism of Singletary because I find sarcastic humor hysterically funny and I’m really bored at work right now. I really don’t think we’re the Worst Team Evar OMG.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

really?

then you sir, are a complete bona-fide idiot.

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on Nov 19, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

unnecessary

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I probably am

But if you could do this idiot a favor and just read the comment directly above yours, I think we’ll all be able to look back on this and have a good hearty laugh at your expense.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't go that far lol...

But we definitely would have a better overall record than we do now @ 3-6. I would say this though out of the these 4 games that we lost by 3 or less: NO,ATL,PHL & CAR under Morris 2 of those will be W’s

by Kidd2Petrovic on Nov 19, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Was speeding and then suspected of DUI

He’ll likely be cleared on the DUI thing and just be handed a speeding ticket.

I mean, he probably was a little bit drunk when he was pulled over, but by the time they administered the urine test he was probably in the clear.

Still a distraction though.
Frankly, I’m surprised this hasn’t happened more often.
Here’s a guy that quit on his college football team and was set to be suspended for all sorts of things.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 19, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

The breathalyzer came back at .065, below the legal limit.

I’m sure he will get a talking to but if last year is an indication Morris will not sit anyone down. There were many reports of Aqib Talib breaking curfew and ignoring Raheem’s rules with little or no punishment.

by Joshuahss on Nov 19, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

It's the QB not the HC
can the 49ers continue winning in spite of their coaching?

This question makes no sense IMO. The Niners have a very qualified and solid offensive coaching staff. I know less about the position assistants under Manusky, though the DL coach is well respected at his job. In comparing Sing to Morris, you need only look at the QBs. The guy in Tampa has made big plays down the field and led his team to come from behind wins, meaning he has finished the exact games where Alex came up short.

Switch QB play and you’d have Alex Smith losing tight games for Tampa vs the Rams, Browns & Cards. That would make them the same 3-6 the Niners are. As for the HCs both men got their respective teams into position to win tough road games in ATL, both won come from behind home wins vs STL. The difference in opponents is Sing’s team nearly beat a Saints squad that embarrassed Tampa.

The coaching battle this weekend will be a wash. I’d happily trade Alex Smith for Freeman. Fortunately, Troy is starting. With the QB gap closed, Niners should win on their home field.

Thank you SF Giants for an incredible 2010 season and painting the City orange & black!
You gotta bring ass to get ass.

by SpurredOn on Nov 19, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Im so tired of all this Singletary bashing.

He cant play the game for these guys. The team seems to be in position to succeed but they arent able to get over the hump and play smart, Nate Clements. Sing has shown he will sit guys who do not perform, check with Mays on that. The coach can expect his players to play hard and smart. The hard has been there, the smart not so much.

by rileyg1 on Nov 19, 2010 11:15 AM PST reply actions  

In your eyes... what is a head coaches job?

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

To cheerlead? To get good a nice sideline view of the game? To waste timeouts like he has done on several occasions?

No… it’s to come up with a good gameplan and get the best possible results out of your players. If Singletary (and the rest of the coaching staff) was doing that, we would likely not be in the position we are currently in.

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I think

You’re getting the head coach confused with position coaches and coordinators.

It’s equivalent to blaming the POTUS because the DMV sucks- is it technically his “job” to make sure the DMV isn’t a soul-crushing experience? Yes. Do I want him visiting every DMV in America instead of, say, making the big picture decisions that will ensure America thrives and survives for future generations?

I don’t, but you might?

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't drink and drive?

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

It's game prep

I wanted to get into Mike Williams’ mental space. I’m writing a whole Fanpost about it on Monday.

49er 'til I die! (if they don't kill me first)

by LA49er on Nov 19, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Haha

Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi

by Drew Kerr on Nov 19, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

effort

ray lewis spoke on this recently. you can’t blame the coaches for lack of effort. sometimes our players have definitely shown lack of effort. other times its just those stupid penalties that they continue to make. now THAT can be blamed on the coaching, but players share in that as well.

Alex Smith is garbage...

by redrum21225 on Nov 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

Who has shown a lack of effort?

Not even Dashon Goldson or Michael Crabtree have shown a lack of effort.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"

by SportsChicken on Nov 21, 2010 1:53 AM PST up reply actions  

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