49ers 2010 Disaster: Visiting The Troy Smith-Nate Davis Question

i think taylor mays caused niners to take time out. he was leaving a reciever wide open on right side of the field. nobody was covering that guy, and this was at the goal line.

I can understand why Singletary doesn’t want ot make Nate Davis the starter or even second string, but honestly I can’t think of a good reason not to drop Carr and promote Davis to emergency thrid-string duties. As far as Mays is concerned, I think that if Smith is playing better we should keep him as the starter until we are mathematically eliminated.

I think you guys are misinterpreting the whole mays situation… I think its safe to say that Reggie has potential and i think its safe to say that Goldson hasnt lived to the expectations so IMO what this means its that the coaches thought that chances are that Dash is not getting a new contract and that Reggie needs exp. but they cant have 2 unexperienced players on the field at the same time.

I’m a long time reader of this site. It is really the only way I can follow anything 49ers related as I live in Arkansas which is the purge for anything west coast. As a related note, outside of not having regional coverage of the 9ers, I’m limited in the amount of time I can watch football as my schooling the majority of my weekends too.

I will admit, I didn’t catch a single play of the Bucs game and from what I read that was probably a good thing for my sanity. I watched the St. Louis game from 2 weeks back and that was the first time I felt charged for the 9ers this season with Troy Smith leading the team and Frank Gore carrying the team to victory. I thought that Troy could possibly develop into a stable QB for the rest of the year and then this weekends game happened. Now, I’m not ready to write off Troy for the rest of the year. The man’s 2-1 as a starter for the 9ers and has done some things that we haven’t seen from our QBs in a long time. I really think that the 9ers’ problems rest on the shoulders of the Coaching Staff. Take a look at the offensive players on the roster (NOT QBs) – I could argue that they are more talented than those on the Patriots roster. I bet Belichek would welcome the addition of Vernon, Crabtree and Gore, heck probably even Ziegler. Great coaches win with whoever is on the field, bad coaching continues to put their players on the field with out purpose or direction.

I’m all for a youth movement right now. Let’s see what the 9ers have in these guys cats, but I’m also for them opening up the playbook and just throwing everything at the other team. I mean, I love Frank but you really aren’t catching anybody off guard with a run on 1st down anymore, Mike. I don’t know if playing Nate Davis right now would be the thing to do as the 9ers need some consistency on the offensive side of the ball. The constant juggling of the O-Line and QB can’t be settling to the huddle. Let’s let Troy play out the season, say buh-bye to Alex and David and think about Nate as our future, next year (remember, the kid hasn’t seen the 9ers playbook since the last preseason game and even then it’s debatable if he saw it then.) I would also like to see Mr. Boone get some time on the O-Line. Its nice to hear how well he transformed his body and stuff but get him on the field.

These suggestions are the same suggestions I have had sine game 14 of last year.

1. Let Nate Davis play at least a few series here and there to assess his talent in a game time situation.

2. Alex Smith sucks. Let him go if we can’t trade him.

3. Fire Mike Singletary immediately. All he wants to do is keep his job and raise his fists in victory when he takes a 6-8 team to 8-8 by playing all his starters against the two worst teams in football at the end of the season. He has no loyalty to the greatness of the San Francisco Forty Niners. Or to the future of the team. He wants us to be the 1985 Bears. But we are never going be anything but the San Francisco Forty Niners, with or without him. We need a dynamic offense that is allowed to establish a passing game and go deep to stop the defense from loading up against the run and short passes. DUH! Singletary has yet to figure this out.

These are the suggestions I’ve been making since the Denver game:

1. Re-sign Troy Smith to a decent multi-year contract while he is still a question mark. If he doesn’t pan out even as a back-up we can always break the contract. This is the NFL, not MLB.

2. Fire Mike Singletary immediately.

These are new suggestions:

1. Let Troy Smith and Nate Davis both get playing time to see what we have, and to give them much needed game time experience.

2. Fire Mike Singletary immediately and hire Manuski as the Interim coach. Keep the rest of the coaches around for this year. Hire a DC unless Manuski thinks he can do it all and call the game at the same time.

3. For next year: Hire Mike Holmgren if we can steal him away from Cleveland. Keep Balke.

If we can’t get Holmgren there are lots of choices out there, all of whom would be better than a HC who can’t assess ANYTHING about his team or the game or weaknesses or strengths until he “watches the film.” What the hell kind of HC is that?

4. As far as Taylor Mays I don’t see a problem with him sharing time with Reggie and assessing both players until the end of the year.

Jed: If you want me to take over for the rest of the year let me know. You can’t just sit there and let us twist in the wind the rest of the year. Com the F on, dude! Wake up. Pull the right strings for once and let’s get this team going in the right direction.

I’ve been indifferent to Alex Smith for 6 years. Nothing he has done has impressed me, nothing he has done has built up a reservoir of hostility either. That said, I still think he is the best of the garbage we have.

Troy Smith did exactly as I expected. People seem to forget he was on the right side of Lady Luck the first 2 starts. The very right side. This week, his luck was back to normal and it showed. All the people who were anointing him their savior were shown the ugly reality. Great college QB without the tools to be great in the NFL. Will probably get worse as game film builds up. He can strive for someday being an average QB. He will never really be any better than Alex. Then again, he’ll likely never be much worse. Like Alex, he just sort of is. The problem…to have a QB who is just there, we need to have a far, far better defense and O-Line. Then average would be sufficient.

As for Nate Davis? We’re still really discussing him? He barely earned a practice squad spot. No other team had any interest in him. He had a great college career against horrendous opponents and a horrendous college career against good opponents. He never even played any great opponents. He showed a lack of discipline in the off season. He was a player who needed to go an extra mile with pre-season prep, and instead he never even went to the starting line. The entire reason Troy Smith was signed was due to the failure of Nate Davis to do the work necessary to become a third string QB. The Niners can keep him forever on their practice squad because no other NFL team wants him. Playing him to “see what we have?” We might as well put Andy Lee in as QB.

At this point, 2 games out of first, either Smith would give the best chance for a successful season. I think Alex would be slightly better due to experience. Troy might be a little more fun to watch (though increasingly less so as game film accumulates and teams find it easier to key in on his weaknesses.) Both can help our receivers and O-line develop, which is good for future team cohesion.

Nate Davis would be good to help us get that top draft pick. Where we might win a handful more with either of the Smiths, Davis should help us get that coveted 3-13 record and a chance at one of the better QBs in a strong draft class.

What was Sing saying all week? He kept repeating that he wanted Troy to stymie his obvious strength, which is in-the-moment decisionmaking. He kept saying Troy needs to be more by-the-book. He kept saying Troy shouldn’t throw as much as he does when a play goes bad. Aside from making himself look like a 100% clueless moron when it comes to offense, Sing made it clear that what matters more to him than winning games is that everything happens the way he says it should happen. He’s more about power and control now than about winning and success.

He has to go.

Since Troy and Alex both seem to have a habit of usually mustering 1 or 2 quarters of good (and sometimes great) football per game, I have a new approach. We’ll have 2 QBs. One gets one half. One gets the other. And then we just cross our fingers that they each manage to muster one of their great quarters each game. 2 great quarters will win about any game. And against NFC west opponents, 1 should suffice. We’ll be able to run the score board the rest of the season. Hurray.

If troy loses 1 or 2 more games….sing will put Alex back in…..because those are the type of stupid decisions he makes……guaranteed