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NFL Network Top 100 Players: 49ers Domination

In late September, the NFL Network announced plans to unveil their Top 100 NFL players of all time. They released their first fifty players and the only 49ers representative was Steve Young, ranked #81. I think that ranking is a bit low, and fans seemed to agree as they ranked Steve Young #13. I don't know if Steve Young is the 13th best player in NFL history, but I do see his combination of skills and production as sufficient to rate higher than 81st.

While the list was light on 49ers early on, our favorite team closed incredibly strong (thanks to everybody who posted FanShots recently about this list). The 49ers managed to score three of the top eleven players in this list (some video posted after the jump):

#1 - Jerry Rice
#4 - Joe Montana
#11 - Ronnie Lott

When talking about all-time greats, every sport has its own little problems. Every sport has had eras of inflated and deflated statistics for one reason or another. Of all the sports, I'd argue none has had as many significant rule changes during its history as football. Just the addition of the forward pass changed everything in the game. And for football as much as anything else, when you consider the changes in physical fitness and salaries allowing players to now spend all their the focusing on the game it's really quite hard to make comparisons.

A lot of folks also view Jim Brown as the mythical "greatest football player of all time." I think you could make an argument for Brown, but there are plenty of arguments for Jerry Rice's inclusion at the #1 spot. The Big Lead put together a great list of pros for Rice's ranking at #1:

Pros: Just about everything.  Chase Stuart did a great writeup on Rice before the Hall of Fame selections.  For touching the ball less than a running back, he surpassed everyone of them in yards from scrimmage.  He holds the touchdown record.  He holds just about every record.  You can divide his career in two parts and produce two Hall of Fame careers.  If you look at just his games with guys named Grbac, Moroski, Bono, Cavanaugh and Kemp at quarterback, and prorate it to a single season, you get 1451 yards and 16 td's, or as Chase puts it, "the career best season for nearly every WR who has ever played the game. And, of course, only 25% of those games came during what we would typically call a "wide receiver's prime."

Jerry Rice's dominance was as great as anybody we've seen. I'm not saying he's a 100% clear-cut #1, but he has as good an argument as anybody.

Star-divide

#1 Jerry Rice


#4 Joe Montana


#11 Ronnie Lott

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Awesome...but

It makes me sad to compare then to now.

I just want us to get back to 80% as good as then again…

by 9erEast on Nov 5, 2010 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Been away from the site for a while

But I’ll say it: Jerry Rice is the 100%, clear-cut #1 football player of all time, for exactly those reasons listed in that pink box above, but mostly this one:

For touching the ball less than a running back, he surpassed everyone of them in yards from scrimmage.

"My father's name is art, and my name's pride, and while my destiny reads a recipe for confusion I'm looking for whoever writes, so empty inside." -Slug

by the guy on Nov 5, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Hell Yeah

People try to say different but then they pull stats. He holds the majority of the records. No matte what anybody says he is the greatest hands down!

>< just win the d**n game or else! Or else what? Exactly!

by chriscream on Nov 5, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shoulda been like this...
  1. - Joe Montana
  2. - Jerry Rice
  3. - Steve Young
  4. - Ronnie Lott

"I'm blessed..... Thanks, God bless" ...hey, it worked for Tim Tebow.

by Drew Kerr on Nov 5, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Well yeeeaaahhh ...!!

I'm your " Huckelberry "...it's just my game ...Jimmy Raye your no daisy ...!!

by Edggy on Nov 5, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would say... This is probably in actuality more accurate

1. Rice
2. Lott
3. Montana
4. Young.

Rice and Lott are bar-none the best receiver and defensive back to ever play the game. There is at least argument as to whether Montana is the best QB.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 5, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

Young at 81 is a travesty.

by smileyman on Nov 7, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

They left some guys off that should be on

Haley, Polamalu (if Ed Reed is on so should Polamalu) just saying you know

by EcERyda69 on Nov 5, 2010 6:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

He isn't on wtf

Maybe it is because Polamalu is still really young

by manraj7 on Nov 5, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I might get some heat for this but I honestly believe that Jim Brown deserves to be lower on this list

The amount of talent that Jim Brown played against is far exceeded by those that Jerry Rice played against. Jim Brown played against D-linemen that were the size of today standard linebackers and against linebackers who were the size of safeties. I’m not knocking Jim Brown’s greatness but I am saying that he wasn’t the best ever, in my eyes wasnt even the best RB ever, to me that goes to Walter Payton or Barry Sanders. I guess to me its the fact that he didnt play past 29, maybe had he played a few more years I would say that he is the best ever but just like it said in the article above, if you split Jerry Rice’s career in half he would still have hall of fame numbers, to me if that isnt the greatest ever than I dont know what it is

by Lok on Nov 5, 2010 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

The argument for Jim Brown

He still averaged over 5 yards a carry for his entire career. I think the only other RB in NFL history who can claim that is Barry Sanders. I think he’s right up there with Rice.

"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"

by bignerd on Nov 5, 2010 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Barry is as far above Jim Brown

as Rice is above Randy Moss.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 5, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gayle Sayers also had a 5 yard average and higher touchdown to ball touches ratio

by mcwagner on Nov 6, 2010 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Payton Manning is great but...

come the Eff on, Elway & Marino deserve to be ahead of him, no way is Payton the 8th greatest player of all time. Maybe when his career is done you can go ahead and place him there but not now

by Lok on Nov 5, 2010 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Marino is always talked about as having a super-accurate arm

but his actual completion percentage is pretty bad. One of the more overrated QBs in the NFL in my opinion.

by smileyman on Nov 7, 2010 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I said this in the Nuggets

But Montana should be third and LT fourth

Futbol players pretend they're hurt when they're not. Football players pretend they're not hurt when they are.

"Yeah, he was really rusty—you know, first run 50 yards."
-Alex Smith on Frank Gore's scant work during the preseason

by Tazer2340 on Nov 5, 2010 7:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Ronnie Lott

Lott is a beast—I could watch his highlight film all day. He is the embodiment of a football player. It’s unbelievable that we ever let him leave while he still could play. I understand why the 49ers had to get rid of Montana in order to let Young play, but I never understood why Jerry couldn’t remain w/ the team even w/ TO and why the 49ers let Lott go to Oakland. It killed me to see those guys (and Montana) play for other teams.

I was young at the time Lott left the team—What’s the story w/ his exit? Was he considered washed up, injured, or what?

"The principle is competing against yourself. It's about self improvement, about being better than you were the day before." ~Steve Young #8

by Young_To_Rice on Nov 5, 2010 7:44 PM PDT reply actions  

the reason

is complicated. But the results were simple: it lead to a loss of locker room discipline, the loss of Charles Haley and the end of the dynasty.

by zacksf on Nov 6, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flash80 #1

It would be nice to have any of those guys playing for us now.We were spoiled fans for so long and now it’s our turn to suffer season after season… F&&@? Karma!!

by STR8CASH..HOMIE on Nov 5, 2010 8:19 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I thought the list was mostly fair. I was surprised Lott was ranked that high, figured he’d be somewhere in the low 20’s or high teens.

Strange thing about the outcome is 49ers fans would still consider Montana the 49er over Rice.

"Coach, it came down like a hail marry"

by bignerd on Nov 5, 2010 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

The foolish ones

Neither Montana or Young would be as high as they are without Rice. As proven by Rice’s numbers with 3rd string caliber QBs he’d still be the greatest receiver ever.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Nov 5, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

1.- Joe.
2.- Jerry
3.- Lott / Young (i love both)

And while i think Joe is the greatest im ok with Jerry as number 1…. And why i feel Joe is number 1?

1.- He is a QB and the position is complex.
2.-Confidence
 I get the same feeling with Joe and Mariano Rivera, when Mariano starts warming up and the yankees have the lead its over, and with Joe well…. if the 49ers had the ball with a minute left to play in the 4th Quarter you knew that the 49ers were going to score. He was that good!

by Xan101 on Nov 5, 2010 10:22 PM PDT reply actions  

It's really tough

to say whether Joe should be higher or if Jerry is right where he belongs. No one has dominated any single position like Jerry did. Not Revis, not Emmit Smith, not Brett, not Peyton, not even Joe, but Joe was the centerpiece. He was the one man that brought it all together. I agree with what was said in the video. If Joe had the ball, you knew we were in good shape. Such a contrast to how I feel about the current team. If the other team has the ball in the last few minutes, we’re sunk.

by MSgt Tree on Nov 5, 2010 10:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I say Jerry. Hands down.

Joe was amazing, but it’s Jerry all the way. To me, WR is the only position in football that there isn’t even an argument for best at the position, and his numbers seem fictitious. Rice to me is number one, and it’s not really even close.

I love all out Niners, but #80 is my favorite and the best football player to ever strap on a helmet.

"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."

by Blank x2 on Nov 6, 2010 5:43 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Some Old Timers got robbed

Jimmy Johnson should have been higher than some CBs on that list.

Leo Nomellini should have been in the second fifty.

Dave Wilcox had a shot at the bottom edge.

by Grumpy Guy on Nov 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST reply actions  

Where is Charles haley?

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 7, 2010 7:47 PM PST reply actions  

I don't honor any of the picks from the 50's and before.

2010 in memory of the 1970 Bengals.......
Nate clements: Hey coach, had you put a better gameplan together, i wouldn't have fumbled!!

by rlott#42 on Nov 7, 2010 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

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