Holiday Bowl Game Thread: #18 Nebraska vs. Washington
Washington is heading in to this game riding on a 3 game win streak. They finished the year strong while Nebraska found themselves on the losing side of the Big 12 Championship Game against Oklahoma.
This is Jake Locker's final chance to show the nation that he belongs in top 5 conversation at the quarterback position.
In a recent interview Locker was asked about his decision to return to Washington for his senior year and if he regreted passing up all that money, his response, "No, no I don't regret it at all".
We will see tonight if he does in fact regret it when he goes up against the 8th ranked defense in the nation and perhaps one of the best secondaries in college football led by cornerback Prince Amukamara and safety Eric Hagg.
When these two teams first faced off on September 18th, Nebraska destroyed Washington 56-21.
Freshman Taylor Martinez will get the start in this one, but it is uncertain how well he has healed up from an ankle injury in the latter part of the season. It will be tested once again tonight. He played well in the first half of the Big 12 Championship, but Oklahoma figured out how to slow him down in the second half. Depending on how closely Washington head coach Steve Sarkisian paid attention to how Oklahoma was able to do that, the Huskies could have a good opportunity to duplicate Oklahoma's success against the Cornhuskers.
There will certainly be plenty of pro talent in this year's Holiday Bowl and after the break here, we will take a look at some of them.
KEY PLAYERS TO WATCH FOR THE HUSKIES:
1. Jake Locker - QB: This is by and large Jake Locker's time to shine. This is it. It is either sink or swim. Tonight's game could very well dictate whether or not Locker is selected in the first round in the '11 NFL Draft. With all the adversity that Locker has had to face, and all the ridicule he has received for returning to school, one can only pull for the guy to have a career game this evening. For any fan of a pro team needing a quarterback, keep yours eyes glued to this senior quarterback in his final college game.
2. Chris Polk - RB: Polk is only a sophomore, but in order for Locker to have success, it is equally important for Polk to get past that first lethal line of defense of the 'Huskers. This is Polk's second consecutive year with 1000 plus yards. Next year, I fully expect Polk to be in the conversations of top tier college running back prospects. Asa sophomore, Polk already has 13 career touchdowns.
3. Jermaine Kearse - WR: Kearse gives Locker a very tall, very talented target. Kearse will definitely have his work cut out in getting open tonight whether he is covered by Amukamara or Dennard. The Huskers safety help could also make it really difficult for Kearse. Kearse had over 1000 yards receiving this year and found the endzone 12 times.
4. Nate Fellner - S: Fellner had 4 interceptions this year and has the abilty to sneak up on passes and pluck them from the air. He is very good at baiting opposing quarterbacks. Taylor Martinez, the Husker's freshman quarterback could very well end up getting fooled by Fellner if he is not careful with the football. Pelini I am sure is well aware of Fellner and will I am sure have game planned for him. If not, Fellner is the type of guy that can turn a game around.
5. Quinton Richardson - CB: This will be Richardson's final game for Washington. One last chance to wow the scouts. He has one interception for a touchdown, so he is perfectly capable of making something happen. He also has big hit ability and has forced fumbles twice, once last year, one time this year. This is another player that will need to have a solid game in order to give the Huskies a shot at winning.
KEY PLAYERS TO WATCH FOR THE CORNHUSKERS:
1. Taylor Martinez - QB: Even though he is a freshman, he plays like he has been a college quarterback for the last 4 years. With exception to the Big 12 Championship, Martinez has had an exceptional freshman outing. There are not too many freshman that can come in and play the way Martinez has. I imagine that we will see Martinez in all of the draft conversations here in a couple years.
2. Roy Helu - RB: Roy Helu Jr. is without question one of the top backs in college football. He can break it loose at any given moment. He is very explosive and cuts on a dime. He stands 6'0" and weighs 220 LBS. He has 3,370 career rushing yards and 27 career touchdowns while at Nebraska. This will be Helu's final college game, but I imagine that we will see him suiting up on Sunday's.
3. Niles Paul - WR: Like Helu, this will be Paul's final game as a Cornhusker. Paul was Nebraska's leading receiver this year even though he missed 3 games. He missed the final two games with a foot injury but will gear up to play in tonights Holiday Bowl. We will have to wait and see what kind of threat he will be. Washington may key on the run which could be a mistake. They cannot neglect the passing game for the Huskers.
4. Mike McNeill - TE: McNeill is also a threat in the vertical game. He is one of the better tight ends int he nation and will showcase his skills tonight. Washington's safeties will have to watch McNeill as he is very sneaky off the line.
5. Jared Crick - DT: Crick has all the tools and skill set to be the next Jared Allen or Justin Smith in the NFL. His motor does not shut down. Since Ndamukong Suh's departure, Crick has led the defensive line in both energy and statistics. Washington's offensive line has only one hope... slow him down because there is no stopping Jared Crick.
6. Prince Amukamara - CB: Some people have Amukamara ranked as the #1 rated corner in the nation and others have him ranked as the #2. Either way, he is extremely gifted and without question will be starting on some teams pro line up in his next year of playing football. He will make it tough for Jake Locker be at his best this evening.
7. Alfonzo Dennard - CB: When you have a Prince Amukamara on your team, if you are the other cornerback, you're going to receive a bunch of attention. How you respond to it is what will make a young player stand out or sit on the bench. Dennard has been one of those guys that has stared the challenge in the face and brushed it off. He has done very well with 4 picks for 31 yards with one taken back to the house.
8. Eric Hagg - S: Hagg has 6 career interceptions, 3 fumbles forced, and 125 tackles in his career at Nebraska in his final year as a Husker. Hagg and Gomes take off a ton of pressure for their corners to have the success they do. When you are comfortable with your back end help, it makes it easier to make plays.
9. Dejon Gomes - S: Gomes, on the other side of Hagg, is considered to be one of the better safeties in the nation. He will surely be drafted. He has every opportunity in front of him to make it happen at the next level. In fact, all four of these defensive backs for the Husker's do. Locker will be facing a pro-caliber defensive back field without fully having the equivalent to help him out on offense. The odds are no question stacked against Locker, but he has it in him to make it happen. It just won't come easy against Gomes, Hagg, Dennard, and Amukamara.
Summary: As mentioned above, the Huskies finished strong with a three game winning streak and walk in to this game with their heads held high while it is uncertain what Nebraska's demeanor will be. It's a bowl game, so I imagine that they will be up initially. Even though it was a slaughtering in these teams first match up, Washington should play it much closer in this years Holiday Bowl. Locker will have to build confidence early with short passes. It will be up to his supporting cast to make Nebraska's defense miss. The last thing Washington wants to do is get in to shootout. They need to control the tempo and put points on the board as much as possible.
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49er fans should be interested in this one
looks like we got a REAL chance at either Locker or Amukamara….
Locker
Could help himself today.
by EcERyda69 on Dec 30, 2010 7:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm a little scared
haven’t watched Washington at all this year, but the only talk I’ve heard about him is how much his stock fell this year….
I guess that’s what today is for. To see him for myself.
Well, it could change after todays game
Nebraska D is pretty good
by EcERyda69 on Dec 30, 2010 7:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I don't know
Did Prince make a play in that game? I didn’t really hear his name called or see him do much of anything.
That's usually the sign of a shutdown corner
When you don’t ever hear their name
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by youALREADYknow on Dec 31, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions
WATCHING
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 30, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
Damn that receiver dropped it
Yates put it right on the money
by EcERyda69 on Dec 30, 2010 7:06 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'm getting OT on the UNC vs. TEN game
UNC ran the ball with little time left on clock, then when they tried to spike with 0:01 left, they had too many men on the field…refs called game over, then reviewed it, gave them 0:01, UNC kicked FG and now it’s in OT
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
What a nutbuster of a loss for Tenn!
They shook hands like they had won. Guessing it’s a little quiet in the locker room.
LOL you know what be nice?
If Locker does so horrible that he slips into the second round, while we take Prince Amukamara with our first pick and they Locker somehow is still availaible thus we take him..and then 2 of our biggest needs becomes somewhat solved =)
so long as we get a HC and staff that can develop a QB properly
I’m fine with anyone they feel good about
Trust me, I have no idea either.
Nitwitter
Why do you want to draft a QB that plays horribly in a bowl game?
Sounds like we’d be drafting him for drafting’s sake, not to make the team better.
He's played horribly in every big game
So what’s one bowl game going to change in that respect? Oh look…. he’s doing it again!
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by youALREADYknow on Dec 30, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Makes me wonder why people are so high on him
Wasnt he like 4 for 20 in the first Nebraska game?
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by Blank x2 on Dec 30, 2010 9:14 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Because he's toolsy and plays in a pro style offense
Seems people care more about the school (and therefore coaches and scheme) a guy goes to than the player’s actual productivity.
There are situations where a guy can put up rather average college stats and be a good pro and Locker could be one of those guys. I wouldn’t put any money on it and surely wouldn’t be drafting him in the 1st round, but to each his own. Locker looks like the best QB in the country for one throw and then looks downright terrible for the next 5.
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by youALREADYknow on Dec 30, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't be against taking him in the second either
But there is no way I’d use a top 10 pick on locker. No way.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Dec 30, 2010 9:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
99.99% we are taking a quarterback with our first pick.
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by HUNGRY HUNTER on Dec 30, 2010 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
locker will be a steal
if he drops to rd. 2. if you actually watch the games you will have noticed that UW’s receivers suck, and their offensive line is extremely small and usually beat up. just because locker goes 7-19 passing doesn’t mean he’s had a horrible game. this isn’t baseball, you can’t tell if someone has had a good/bad game just by looking at stats
man loving Washington's D right now
every play someone is either trying to go for a strip or knock the ball carrier the eff out. Nebraska looking like they think Washington’s going to just bow down to them after the first blowout.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 8:10 PM PST reply actions
uh ohh...
MAN DOWN! MAN DOWN! JAKE LOCKER IS DOWN!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 8:12 PM PST reply actions
looks like a concussion
replay shows Locker taking a helmet to the facemask after sliding/diving.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 8:13 PM PST up reply actions
That'll cost him 5 mil
"People are on to us right now. They're got our number. We have to regroup and start doing something a little more different. I'm not saying we're predictable, but when you've got the opponent out there calling out plays, and they know what's coming, then we've got a problem. They know what plays we're calling. They pretty much know what routes we're running. They pretty much have us down right now." -
-- Jerry Rice
this guy just keeps costing himself money!
but on a brighter note hes up and about now. don’t know if they’re going to let him back in.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
wow
He might be the top QB anyway hearing Luck might stay
Here's money for a cab. Now entering sleep mode. beep beep beep zzzzzzzzz
by chriscream on Dec 30, 2010 9:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I’ve been saying I don’t think he’s leaving for most of the season.
by Virginia9er on Dec 30, 2010 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
what's the thought process behind that?
He’s pretty much guaranteed the #1 pick, and I’m not sure how much money that’s gonna be (rookie pay scale?)
But why would he stay? to get better? No way Harbaugh stays at Stanford, given what we’ve heard. A new coaching regime can’t be sounding too good for his draft stock.
same thing locker thought
sometimes it’s not about the money but simply being loyal to your teammates and trying to win something together vs. leaving them for money and a whole new league.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions
as a matter of fact
look how Locker turned out! If there’s a wage scale, he just lost a huge sum of money… at least it looks like he’s got a bowl win.
i was just about to say we all also know how it turned out for locker too haha.
I’m fine with Locker in the second this year but I also wouldn’t mind getting a CB in the second along with the first. Peterson with Smith in the second or Dowling would be awesome. Or Amukamara with either of the two would be fine too.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Peterson would be amazing
but if the 49ers pick at 6, where they are right now, I don’t see it happening. We’d be lucky to get Amukamar at that point.
Locker would be a solid 2nd rounder, indeed.
It is really just a hunch
I know it was reported, but they said Harbaugh was staying there too which I don’t believe. I think with the possibility of not having football next fall he would stay. Then again he shot up draft boards this season he didn’t start out as the clear #1 pick and now that Carolina has the #1 he can kind of assume he will go first I’d think.
From hearing him talk it seems like he is quite committed to his team and teammates, then again that could be just this year and he isn’t doing them any disservice. The Locker situation is kind of unique, but Bradford also came back and got hurt, though it didn’t hurt his stock that much…who knows, like I said I don’t have much to support it. Just a feeling take it FWIW. (You could say it is a little bit to be on the other side and if it comes true look smart and if it doesn’t not much lost.)
by Virginia9er on Dec 30, 2010 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
Locker is changing my opinion
not seen any alex smith moments.
why were the huskies underdogs?
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Locker is running alot.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Breaking News:
Locker is not too good. Please for the love of God don’t let us waste a first rounder.
"Bears are crazy, Willie. They'll bite your head off if you're wearing steak on it."
by Blank x2 on Dec 30, 2010 9:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
SAFETY LOL
and no doubt about it.
19-7 washington.
might be the icing on the cake if washington scores here.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Nebraska's coach seems like
he just said let’s use our gameplan we used last time cause it went so well so no point in changing it. They’re playing with no passion or urgency at all.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 9:57 PM PST reply actions
Locker wants this.
But I do not like that he is doing it all with his feet and not with his arm.
But he is playing to win the game and running guarantees the clock to run.
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
prince make any plays yet?
Haven’t noticed him at all but i guess that’s a good thing right?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:09 PM PST reply actions
i wished locker threw more
so that not only could we evaluate Locker but also get a better look at Prince. Kinda funny how the two of them are high on our potential niner list and if either of them succeed that means the other one must have sucked haha. catch 22!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
That's not really a catch 22, but I understand what you mean :)
Frankly, I’d prefer a top tier CB like Amukamara over a huge bust potential like Locker… not impressed with him today.
Maybe draft one in the lower rounds, and I think a FA could hold us into the next draft, when hopefully we get some better QB’s.
You aren't watching
the drops are killing them. If the WR could hold onto the ball, longer possessions, meaning he can keep passing.
thank you
sometimes it seems like people make judgments based on box scores instead of actually watching the game
NFL QB's make quick reads
Locker failed to do this in every big game this season. He holds the ball too long which leads to wild scrambles out of the pocket which leads to throw aways and difficult passes/catches on the run.
He does not play the QB position very well. Period. He can learn, but that’s a project QB in my book.
You give him 5 drops per game back and he’s still sub-50% against every top team they face.
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by youALREADYknow on Dec 30, 2010 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Locker completes less than 56% of his passes
There’s no way you can attribute that to poor WR play. At the D-I level, even the weakest of receivers will catch them at a higher rate than that.
Locker should be much closer to 65-70% if he was a legit pro pospect. I dread the possibility of drafting him.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
i agree that he shoudn't start right away
but few rookie QBs have the ability to do so. locker has better skills that most nfl QBs; given time to develop the rest of his game (see: rodgers, rivers) he could be an elite nfl QB in 2-3 years.
hmm, maybe
it seems like he scrambles a lot tho. Dunno if it’s poor OL play, because he seems to get a fair amount of time.
ohh yeah definitely agree
I want a CB in the first and I am pretty confident Locker won’t go in the first this year. Only thing he’s shown this game is the athleticism and intangibles which we all already knew about. Everyone’s worried about his arm and decision making and he’s done nothing to answer those questions.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:16 PM PST reply actions
Don't judge a QB by a Bowl Game
How the 49ers ended up with Alex Smith over Aaron Rodgers.
Digital Garbage
ohh no don't get me wrong
I still like Locker as a prospect over say Mallett but I just didn’t want to wait until the off season to see what he can do. I just want to see a little flash of brilliance to look forward rather then just a boring run first bowl game.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
He's a Senior
There’s a huge body of work to judge Locker by and his decision making in the passing game is still a question mark. His horrific completion percentages against top competition are also a red flag.
If this were an underclassman like Luck, then this would be a different story.
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by youALREADYknow on Dec 30, 2010 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
Again... his completion rate is 56%. That's not all dropsies.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
true
other contributors include an offensive line that was injured all year and rarely gave him the time to throw. last night was their best performance all season, hands down. yet he was unable to get the ball to his receivers because they couldn’t get off the line and then dropped numerous passes
if the 49ers took rodgers over smith
everyone here would be talking about how much rodgers sucks right now
awful throw by Martinez
there was absolutely nobody near the defender, but the TE had to fall out of bounds for that ball.
doesnt matter
theyre both awful when it comes to throwing footballs
They do not make it here with that catch this thing is will be almost over..
"You know whats funny? I always thought uhm dogs lay eggs and I learned something new today" Peter Griffin
Nebraska must have hired Singletary the past week to check out the film
cause they haven’t made any adjustments at all.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:20 PM PST reply actions
yeah martinez is out
cause he re injured his ankle i believe.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
in other news
UConn’s streak is finally over.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:28 PM PST reply actions
so what happens when you win a bowl game?
do they get holiday bowl rings now or something?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:33 PM PST reply actions
University gets a trophy
The school can elect to buy the players a gift like a jacket or something.
Digital Garbage
ahhhh i see
so i’m assuming the more prestigious the bowl such as the rose bowl the greater the potential the reward then?
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nope
If the schools sports director doesn’t see money in the budget they may not get a thing. There was a story out about a month ago citing almost every team in a bowl game loses their wallet playing in these games.
Digital Garbage
wow wtheck
another reason why the BCS is corrupt and only benefiting for the very few behind it huh? Sounds like an evil organization indeed.
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
It was a great article
No, there is no point to the BCS other than make a few committee chair members rich.
Mark Cuban had a good point about it. The reason it still exists is because the colleges don’t have capital to switch to a more profitable playoff system. They are getting ripped off in the current bowl format but don’t have the money to do anything about it.
Digital Garbage
Coaches get a hefty bonus
for winning a bowl game, which is why coaches for bad teams who go to the “sucky” bowls don’t want to change the bowl system.
The Holiday Bowl is hardly the BCS
If a school plays in a BCS game, the conference gets $8,000,000.
For almost every bowl other than the BCS, yes the team breaks even at best; but don’t confuse the highest levels of competition with the BBVA Compass Bowl.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
But the point of going to a bowl
Is to get national exposure for your team so that new recruits want to go to your school. Who wants to go to a school that doesn’t go to bowl games? Certainly not the marquee high school players out there.
Locker
great ground game tonight. the man has a lot of upside and potential. but a bit disappointed on his passes tonight.
He looked like Steve Young playing for Tampa Bay. Not necessarily a good thing but showed he would do about anything to win, including getting the piss knocked out of him.
Digital Garbage
let's hope TB draft him then!
then we can get him in a couple of years and repeat history!
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by afrikabamboodle on Dec 30, 2010 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Is nobody else watching this game?
He has seriously hit every single WR in the hands, and they are dropping them.
I like Locker
But tonight he looked like Steve Young running around without any offensive polish. I see the skills but like I described him earlier in the week he’s like a wild horse than needs to be broken and re-trained.
Digital Garbage
I like
the analogy. A more physical Jake Plummer with a better arm?
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 30, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Jake Plummer isn't much of a compliment
Jake was progressively worse as his career went on.
Digital Garbage
How do you figure?
His best years were at the end in Denver.
Who would you compare him to? I can see the Young comparisons maybe.
A mobile Jeff George?
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 30, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Locker is a 3 year prospect
He won’t have that long before fans are calling for his head if we draft him top 10. If he somehow were to drop to the second, and the team could pick up a Matt Flynn or someone to babysit the position while Locker learns… then he might have a chance.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
he should sit at least the first year
he still has a lot to learn, but definitely has the raw talent to be elite
Very different from Alex Smith
In the sense that he’s very mobile, which is a good thing for the way our O-Line pass blocks currently (and hopefully that will get better next year).
Also, I like that he comes from a college running a pro offense and not a gimmick offense like the spread that ASmith ran in college.
Obviously
Some similarities as well though. Lot’s of “tools”. Smith was/is very mobile as he ran the spread option quite well at Utah. Smith doesn’t have the arm that Locker has but Jeff George had a great arm too.
All I’m saying is the promise of “raw talent” can be intoxicating but I want a guy who has actually won some games in his college career.
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 31, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough
You want a QB who’s won games in college. I want a head coach who’s won as a head coach.
Let’s hope we both get what we want!
Also, was Alex Smith looked at as especially mobile when he was drafted? I was under the impression that spread QBs simply played from the shotgun and threw quickly, not that they ran very much.
MEH
If we’re gonna get Flynn or another backup-type guy, why not just keep Carr, Smith, Smith, or Davis?
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I don't disagree
But it doesn’t change the fact that there aren’t any NFL ready QB’s who will be available to us in this draft.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
yeah err sorry i meant to say
disappointed on the passing game. not his passes. Thats been all year long too, his WRs cant catch the football!
by Giants49war on Dec 30, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Why I don't like Locker
Locker is tantalizing. He has a rocket arm and can clearly put the ball away and run with it. He’s high risk, high reward.
The thing that worries me is that he has never really won. Obviously, that is not entirely his fault. His WR’s are not great. He played on some bad teams.
Still, I want a QB that has had some degree of success in college. 6-6 and a bowl win is not success.
true
perfect example: Jimmy Clausen. could not win in college. and the result follows in NFL, even though the Panthers have no supporting cast.
by Giants49war on Dec 30, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions
counterpoint
Jay Cutler started all 46 games in his college career at Vanderbilt, and they went 11-35.
College team success (as opposed to personal success) is clearly not required to be an NFL success. Locker is a lot like Cutler was in that they both ARE their team and try to do too much, but with some polish they can be great.
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Good analogy
I can buy that. I actually like Locker’s attitude a lot better than Cutler as well. It really would have been nice though to see Locker on a decent team to see what he could have done.
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 31, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions
Right on
Good QB’s find a way to win. He did it in this game, but not consistently over his career. You can keep blaming the lack of talent around him, but a good QB can make the talent around him better. To me, he’s going to be a big project if we do decide to take him.
Project is the key word
I’m not saying he can’t succeed. I’m saying if he does, it’s going to take a while. I feel the same about Newton. I’m not sure we can spend a #1 draft pick on a project at this point. 2nd or 3rd…maybe.
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 30, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions
i feel
if we take a locker or newton. we gotta bring a in a vet like McNabb. Newton and Locker both have that young McNabb-esque about them. perfect qb to learn from.
by Giants49war on Dec 31, 2010 12:22 AM PST up reply actions
Anybody know who UW's QB will be next year?
You should.
You're right
just wanted to see if anyone knew about Montana Jr.
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 30, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions
Either Price or Montana... I am sure they will be going head-to-head for the starting job.
They are both going to be sophomore’s. Either way, Montana should get playing time even if he is not the starter. Price runs alot so he could wind up dinged up even if he wins out for the starting job.
Not sure what happened because before the season started, he was really high on Montana. Price must’ve just had better practices or something.
Some of us will do our jobs well and some will not, but we will be judged by only one thing -- the result. -Lombardi
I know Nick
is a true freshman. Is Price a redshirt?
Either way UW is back.
by AptosNinerFan on Dec 30, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions
How many kids does Montana have in college now?
I knew about the one in South Bend, didn’t know that there was one at UW.
Of course its difficult, its a shortcut... if it was easy it'd just be "the way."
Hehe
Oh yeah…
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
"I'm just like you, but 10 times better"
by SportsChicken on Dec 31, 2010 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
Good win for the Pac-10
Hopefully Stanford and Oregon can seal the deal.
Looking forward to watching Luck next!
And Mallet in his bowl game.

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