49ers-Seahawks: Mike Singletary's Waterloo?

I don’t care if we have Joe Staley coaching the team

but I can tell you that EVERY big issue facing America today can link somehow back to corn.

And that we’ve got some pretty smart posters on NN who knew the difference.

I thought Napoleon’s final defeat by a famous American Jazz singer was an entertaining story. I’m sure it’s the key plot line to National Treasure III.

Brett Favre = Caligula
McDaniels = Nero

is for Alex Smith to look like Bruce Gradkowski, and then 4 more years of Alex Smith.

I’d accept his firing just so people could see how little, if anything, would change in the final three weeks. When you’re limited at QB, very few plays work.

with you on this one.

there are 2 performance-related reasons to fire a head coach in-season and install an interim:

1) provide a spark to a playoff-caliber underperforming team that’s still mathematically alive (see nolan, childress)
2) to punish abject failure that can’t go unpunished (see mcdaniels, phillips)

york, by his own admission, has contended all along that the 49ers fall squarely into “playoff-caliber underperforming team that’s still mathematically alive.” problem is that he also thinks there’s no one in-house to fulfill the other half of #1, i.e., “provide a spark.” singletary was that guy in 2008, so york made the move. now, that guy doesn’t exist, so he hasn’t made the move.

the situation changes abruptly from #1 to #2 if the niners lose to SEA. at that point, they wouldn’t be mathematically alive anymore AND 2010 would officially become “an abject failure.” In situation #2, there’s no requirement for some interim to “provide a spark” anymore, so jed’s no longer limited by his belief that that “spark” isn’t in the building. he can fire singletary, get a head start on any potential competitors vying for gruden, harbaugh, etc., and just install some stiff on the staff who’s not going to be around anyway next season after the new HC cleans house.

May be adding Bengals, Houston and Titans soon to the list

Ted Ginn is outstanding in his niche. He can probably be retained fairly cheaply.

Going back to a point I made yesterday, back in the days of Policy/DeBartolo, we had coaching stability and promoted from within. Call it luck or whatever, but look at the collection of coaches we had who started here under Walsh and went on to be pretty good themselves elsewhere. But then starting when the Yorks fired Mooch, we’ve been looking for a coach every couple seasons. What no one seems to want to grasp is that coach needs talent on the field to be successful. And building that talent takes having owner/gm/coach on same page regarding what they want to build towards, going out and getting players to fit that vision, and then allowing time for the team and the vision to gell. Well for the first time in awhile, we’ve got good young talent. Some of that talent needed to mature, and we have a few holes to fill (CB, DL). And after the change at OC, we finally have a HC and staff that has a couple seasons under their belt. I really think we need to maintain the existing coaching staff and fill the voids mentioned above.

As for qb, maybe bring in a vet free agent to challenge Alex and Troy. But I’m not for drafting a rookie and doing to him what we did to Alex by rushing him to be the next Big Ben or Flacco. On that point, what did Big Ben and Flacco have in common with the teams they went to? A strong running game AND a great defense. Hmmm, that sound like what we thought we had coming into this season? What’s missing is the defense. We need a stronger pass rush without having to blitz and we need corners that can cover. Until we address that, I don’t care who the HC is or who the QB is, we’re going to be average at best, having to play a perfect offensive game to make up for a so-so defense. We can’t stop anyone. We let the Saints, Eagles, Falcons and Panthers drive up and down the field late in games to win. In the first Seattle game, we made them look like pro bowlers because we couldn’t stop biting on double moves.

We have a good core, we have some consistency at many positions and with the coaching staff. What we need is to step up the D. So we aren’t where we thought we’d be at this point in the season. Are we really going to point the finger at Sing (and Alex) and call the season a diaster? Supposed the D makes those stops against NO, ATL and Philly? Supposed Nate doesn’t fumble after the int? Would we still call the season a disaster?

If Sing gets fired, and they win their final games, it could just be interim-itis, where players get motivated by the change, but not necessarily by the coaching. If indeed we realize that the problem is Sing, then what? Why better now than at the end of the season. Either way he is canned.

… I hear you, Tre, but I’m inclined to believe that there is an inevitable bounce when the HC is fired, so actually the fact that they will/would win three games after firing Singletary is irrelevant. It would/could just be attributed to the Headmaster-Just-The_Room Syndrome.

I also think it’s nuts to wait until after we’re eliminated from the play-off race to sack him. That’s nuts. If you sack him, then you don’t think he’s the guy to lead you to the play-offs. And if that’s what you think, is it not perverse in the extreme to wait until his failure is complete before removing him, when you could have removed him before and still had a chance to make the post-season under someone else?

I love Sing, we all love Sing, but we all now think he’s not the guy. Once you’ve settled on that, I’d fire him now. The Headmaster Syndrome alone might bounce us into the play-offs because that kneejerk reaction run of two or three wins that a lot of teams see might be all we need to, however ludicrously, go to the play-offs, and who knows where the momentum generated by that unlikely scenario could lead us.

I don’t think they will though – I think they will wait, and he goes in January, maybe immediately after the season, two years to the day almost since he showed Mike Martz the door with similar haste, as I recall in that case, literally the day after the last game.

Some of those vacancies will be less appealing than SF.

Turns out to be the bell of the ball. I can’t really think of an example of that.

I really doubt Derek Anderson would ever have a breakout game against the Niners.

He can come in as QB coach to Alex and Tebow?!

Ha! Well I don’t know if he’s insane, but he’s starting to grate. It’s this thing about ‘I know I haven’t been good enough but I will be good enough’. I do realise he cannot say anything else, but I would love it if, just once, he said, “You know what? I’m a better quarterback than 99.99 per cent of people. But by the standards of NFL quarterbacks, I am really very, very mediocre. I am a nice guy, and I earn an awful lot of money, and I will never need to worry about paying the mortgage, and for that I am grateful. But I’m a No 2, at best, in the NFL, and really I’m amazed that such a storied franchise have wasted this much time on me. But hey ho, on we go.”

i love takeo. i feel sorry for him. he deserves to be on a better team than us. the 49ers…..“ruining careers for almost a decade” :)

Stupid Super Bowl winner!

probably what Foxy and Fisher will do too

Lol – No, I didn’t phrase my comment well. Eddie D was pretty firm in saying that Jed had too many chiefs running the show, without a single football guy in the FO. Jed already mentioned evaluating “everybody, including himself, from the top down”. That means to me a house-cleaning.
But if the Niners somehow string 4-5 wins together I could easily see Jed losing his mind.
I’m just trying to read between the lines.

I meant to add this. For Napoleon’s first exile, the British sent him to Elba, a rather pleasant Mediterranean island not far from his birthplace Corsica, with basically a promise of good behavior. For his second and final exile, they sent him to St. Helena, a small rock in the South Atlantic used by the British as their chief Southern Hemisphere astronomical observatory (for star-charting purposes for nautical longitude calculations).
Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Alex can go to Elba. He’s a good guy.
Sing – St. Helena.

Squandering talents on the road to the playoffs