Scot McCloughan and the 49ers front office in 2010: A critical year?
drummer’s bio: Hello everybody. I’ve been a fan of the San Francisco 49ers for a few decades now. I live in Southern California after living in San Francisco most of my adult life. The only thing I missed from SoCal when I lived in SF was the Mexican food. Tell me where I can find a better bowl of Menudo in SF, and I may move back. Being that I can’t find good Pho soup down here, I may move back anyway.
Outside of Alex Smith, one of the more polarizing figures of the 49ers when it comes to debate amongst the fanbase is GM Scot McCloughan. One side of the camp thinks he is doing a credible job during the rebuild of the roster, while the other is firmly planted in the "meh" to "FIRE HIM NOW!" side. The media has also joined in, with KNBR post game host Damon Bruce tying McCloughan to the whipping post, and on the flipside, the once very cynical Mike Silver of Yahoo Sports being one of McCloughan's biggest fans. The primary focus of this article is to concentrate on McCloughan's years as GM, his second removed from the physical presence of his one time boss Mike Nolan. Rather than go into a comprehensive study of personnel decisions from 2005 and so forth (the illustrious Florida Danny has some great articles regarding the past drafts), this will be more of a look at the team philosophy from the Front Office on down, and how this offseason could be a critical one for the trio of Jed York, Scot McCloughan, and of course, Mike Singletary.
But first, after the jump, let's reflect a bit on how this all started.
"I'm eighteen, with a bullet. I got my finger on the trigger, and I'm gonna pull it"
"I will remain the one voice in this organization, and the face," Nolan said. "I don’t believe it will change at all. The important thing is that we will maintain the relationship. We’ll still communicate on all issues. ... I’m not disappointed at all. I was in favor of it. I’ve been in favor of it for a long time."
Going into his 3rd year as the "Face of the Organization", Mike Nolan fell flat on it, and 49er fans had their faces firmly planted in their palms witnessing a team that struggled mightily in almost all phases of the game. It was truly one of the worst teams in the history of the 49ers, with an offense so bad that it looked like a totally different franchise from the one that set records on offense. Going into his 3rd year as the "trigger man" with McCloughan as his sidekick, Nolan still hadn't established an offensive identity, at the cost of the defense, which was and still is his specialty. The offense wound being ranked at the bottom of the League, with the defense in the bottom tier. It was a disaster of a season with a team that showed promise a year prior and it was another embarrassment for John York. York had fired his woefully incompetent General Manager, Terry Donahue, who Nolan replaced, not as GM, but to spearhead the rebuild of the entire football operation, even though Nolan had no prior experience in any aspects of his job descriptions. Instead of hiring a GM with real proven experience, York gambled on who he thought was a bright young football mind who also had a legacy with the Franchise. But York had underestimated the poor state of the roster's talent, as well as underestimated the scale of the rebuild of the team. It was an overwhelming task for Nolan, and was proven in his 3rd year. Nolan was on his 3rd offensive coordinator, and on his second defensive coordinator in 2007. Despite the coordinator change on defense, and outside of Nolan's crazy hybrid schemes, the basic philosophy and scheme was intact. The offense? Well........
"Forget pulling the trigger, it'll be over after we bomb Pearl Harbor."
Sincerely, the Germans.
The disastrous 2007 season convinced the Yorks that there needed to be a checks and balance order in place, and alluded to hiring a GM prior to the end of the season. Enter Scot McCloughan, Nolan's VP of Player Personnel. Despite the 49er's lack of success, the 49ers had improved greatly as far as talent. Of course, any improvement over the 2004 squad isn't the quite the building of Rome, but it gave enough confidence in McCloughan to the 49er brass to not have to give up on the rebuild with another GM, hiring outside rather than from in house. Hiring McCloughan also helped the process of Jed's ascension to President, and given John York's past experience with Terry Donahue, having a person they knew and trusted to work with Jed makes sense due to the familiarity. But there was still an Elephant in the room, and that was Mike Nolan, who now had to answer to a person he brought in, and had the authority to determine his future with the team. Nolan seemed defiant during in the press conference announcing McCloughan's promotion and the promise of a smooth transition of power was undermined by Nolan's hiring of none other than Mike Martz. When asked about the prospective offensive coordinator candidates in the 2008 offseason, freshly minted 49er GM Scot McCloughan told the media that "Martz isn't a consideration". Nolan hired Mad Martz shortly afterward, to which McCloughan had to explain some sort of gaff in communication between himself an Nolan, and that he was on board with the hire.
Now, another Elephant walks into the room, and that was Alex Smith. One of the problems in not having a true GM in the hierarchy is the lack of another person of authority over the Head Coach before the team President, or owner. Nolan had nobody outside of John York to answer to, and his well documented handling of Smith in 2007 created more cause for demotion going into 2008. Smith, coming off an injury, now has Mike Martz for his 4th coordinator, and then had to compete with J.T. O'Sullivan for the starting position. Smith hadn't recovered completely from the 2007 injury, thus, the "Greatest Show on Grass" became a donkey show with O'Sullivan at QB, and Martz’s offense became a poor fit with a team that didn’t have the talent to execute it to it’s fullest, especially with the dearth of talent at the QB position. The end result was a mid-season Nolan firing, and another hire of his being promoted to interim Head Coach in Mike Singletary who did a solid job to earn it for the next few seasons, and fired Mike Martz shortly afterward.
"The next time we come under fire, run in a straight line. You'll live longer".
Soldier to reporter - Generation Kill
Ok, now many of you are probably wondering by now "What does all that have to do with this upcoming offseason?" Above is a brief synopsis from my point of view of how I see the turmoil of those first 2 years of the transition from the Nolan\John York era to the new era of Jed York, Scot McCloughan, and Mike Singletary. I didn’t reflect on the 2009 season due to it being discussed a lot here. But I feel in order to properly address this new era, we have to at least have some perspective on how these three key people in the current 49er front office structure and coaching will affect the 49ers going forward in the future, while looking back at the previous structure and it's problems. The 49ers may now have a solid structure of checks and balances instead of one person having total control. But there are still a lot of questions out there as far was where the team is, and guess what? It's still about offense. Defensively, they are on the cusp of being a real good defense, yet they still have issues there as well. Here are a few basic questions about both sides of the ball that I feel need to be addressed:
Offense:
1- Who is going to emerge as the quarterback of the future?
2- If they don't have a quarterback of the future on the team now, when will they find one, and where?
3- How can they protect that quarterback of the future?
4- Do the 49ers have enough weapons in place for a deeper playoff run with a mid to top tier QB?
One thing that is still a hangover from the Nolan era is the lack of identity on offense. Well, if you leave out Frank Gore and Vernon Davis. One thing that was talked about a lot this past season was the talent level on offense, and whether they have true weapons at the skill positions. Michael Crabtree had a great rookie season despite it being truncated, and Josh Morgan has been solid. Jason Hill is a player who showed promise last season, but has almost completely fell off of the radar this season, and we still don’t know where Brandon Jones will fit in. Arnaz Battle is older and slower and should not be back next season (unless Singletary values Battle like Phil Jackson values Derek Fisher), and the running game still has question marks all over it outside of Gore.
The area that is critical going into 2010 and beyond is the position at quarterback. Even though Alex Smith has shown improvement, he still has fundamental issues at the position that need some serious work. Jimmy Raye's offense to me looked more like a mish-mash of an offense that looked more like a work in progress than a balanced offense. Sure, we can look back at the statistics to identify situational effectiveness, but one of the issues with the mish-mash is due to who they have at QB. Of course, you have to protect the QB in order to have him be more effective, and Singletary already made a key move in hiring Mike Solari to coach the offensive line. McCloughan has spent 2 early round picks to address the offensive line, passed on Michael Oher for Crabtree this past draft, and will probably address the O-line this next draft. Basically, the two areas that need greater improvement to function in any offense are both at QB and the O-line going into 2010. It’s McCloughan's critical area to address going into his 3rd season as GM, much like it was Nolan's critical area in his own 3rd season. The one thing they both have in common is Alex Smith, and the difference between Nolan and McCloughan will come down to the quarterback position, and how they addressed it. The other difference is McCloughan by all accounts should know a thing or two about offense, being a Holmgren disciple.
I’m going to channel James Carville to send a message to Scot McCloughan: It’s the Offense, stupid. For discussion going forward, I'd like to hear your ideas of what you would like the offense to look like, where you think the areas McCloughan and Co. should focus on, and just how close this offense is with better QB play to possibly become a Top Ten offense.
Defense:
This one's pretty simple. Who will emerge as the pass rushing beast, and how will they improve the secondary?
Having Greg Manusky for 3 consecutive seasons has been a blessing for the 49ers. Again, yet another Nolan hire that he got right. He has also been a blessing for Singletary, and that blessing is mutual being that as long as the defense channels Singletary's personality, that defense is gonna play hard and tough. But they need a stud pass rusher that has speed and power, along with some serious moves. Now I don't want to get into a mock draft discussion here (there is plenty of that on this site), but one mock draft that I read on another board that wasn't a 49er board had drafted defense for the first 3 picks. Of course, the poster may not have realized the other 49er needs that are more important, but the idea of a real badass defense under Singletary got me chubbed a bit. My other question for discussion is where do you see the defense, where it can improve, and just for kicks, how would you build the ultimate defense with the current players mixed in with draft picks and free agents, despite the offense?
This offseason to me comes down to one thing: if the Front Office on down all run in a straight line together, they just might live longer. All they really have to do is remember how Nolan ran in circles, only to have shot himself on the foot.
WIN THE WEST!! - Mike Nolan, 2005
Next upcoming article: Singletary Football, and how this could shape the next few years if the Front Office understands it.
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good article
thanks for putting it together. Hopefully, the addition of Solari and Brown will have as big an effect on the OL this year as the changes in coaching had on the pass rush last year.
I would also like to see a change in the Wide Receivers coach. For some reason, I think the WR coach is more focused on their blocking than their receiving.
They're called RUNS for a reason.
Great Read
In regards to what Scotty needs to do, I believe he needs to find a Right Tackle and not pass one up. The second pick that’s critical is a change of pace back. Yeah we got coffee and I actually like him as a runner, but I see him as an heir of the Tank. We need a change of pace back to not only let Gore get’s some rest, but gives the defense another dimension to focus on.
Good article
I tend to think McCloughlan has done a pretty solid job. I was under the impression that Mike McCarthy was behind the Alex Smith drafting, which I personally thought may be a conspiracy since McCarthy somehow ended up in GB with Rodgers, a guy I just can’t see any sane person passing on for Alex Smith. Anyone have the whole story or anything to share regarding who pulled the trigger on Smith? As this article stated Mike Nolan had made statements about him being the guy calling all of the shots, so I kind of pinned the Smith drafting on Nolan and McCarthy. I thought McCloughlan has made some good picks by drafting Willis, Jason Hill (who I don’t think is utilized near enough) and Goldson. But bad picks in Balmer, Rachal and a few others………
Don’t even get me started on the whole Mike McCarthy anti Aaron Rodgers fiasco look what {site decorum} is going on now!
1) Why Alex Smith evaluated higher than Aaron Rodgers baffles me.
2) How in the world Mike McCarthy became HC after a piss poor season with the 49ers baffles me.
3) McCarthy’s job is now completely tethered to Aaron Rodgers, a guy he wanted nothing of in SF and no one brings this up baffles me.
Didn't we draft Patrick Willis...
we are bound to have a few hits and misses..In college players may dominate but in the NFL it is an entirely different type of speed, the pace of game is much faster, and everybody is so good. Not everybody who is hailed as the next superstar can do it.
But, yes, Mc Cloughan is under pressure to do better on draft day. We need to boost our offensive line. We need explosive playmakers. Great picks have to be made..
McCloughan is running out of time.
I'm not bashing Smith
I don’t think Smith has had a fair go round, but at the same time I would’ve liked to see more develpment this year for a guy who’s been around so long. Plus I think Rodgers was more of a proven pocket passer at the time of the draft, also better taking snaps under center and better when he has to drop back and throw. I hear Smith is a bit of a detail oriented guy though, so I am optimistic and hopeful that he’ll make some pretty big strides this season. Having the same OC which will give him a chance to get down the playbook to every last detail should allow him to play faster. Being able to work with the first team receivers this offseason should make him familiar with where the receivers will be and hopefully that will help him anticipate that window and enable him to hit the receivers a bit more, maybe even catch them in stride and give them a chance to run it in for 6. If he works on taking snaps from under center this year too then I think he may just make me stop complaining about us passing on Aaron Rodgers. I know a lot of that has to do with the O-line being so horrible, but I guess up to this point I just haven’t seen that fire in him that I’d like to see. I think Nate Davis may be pretty good in the future though, hopefully Smith will take a few strides this offseason, if so I think he can be a very solid QB with the weapons he has and the knowledge he’ll have of the playbook. Let’s go NINERS!!!
Nolan > McC as GM
Martz > Raye as OC
Martz had no WRs, no QB, and no OL.. And for the people saying that Martz should have utilized Vernon Davis more, my assumption is that he wanted too, because I remember Martz praised Vernon’s talent during the offseason, but the Davis of last year was still immature. And a strict coach like Martz, wants too work with adults and not have to babysit Davis through every little tantrum.
1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker
Raye has the same QBs and basically the same OL as Martz. if we had fired a good offensive coordinator, wouldn’t some one have tried to pick him up? a year later he’s being viewed as a terrible hire by the bears. and anyone who can’t deal with egos is doomed to fail in the NFL. Especially if they work with receivers a lot.
by hellaninersfan on Feb 10, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Martz is one of the worst OC's IMO. Anyone who willingly takes 50 plus sacks and will not change his style of play is an enigma.
Testing the Bears now, and there goes Lovey’s job. 21 td’s and 19 int’s four our offense and he is greater than Raye. Raye had Crabtree and that is about the only difference in the offense. Martz is overrated and has been for years. It’s like coming in behind Parcells (his stint coming in behind Vermeil) You should be succesful. JTO was one of the best QB’s he had seen, and you call this man a great offensive mind? LMFAO and ROTFL at the same time.
Mocking.............
1a- traded for Eric Berry
1b- CJ Spiller RB Clemson
2 traded to acquire E Berry
3. Calloway, Selvish Capers, Jason Fox
4. Mike johnson OG, John Jerry, Asamoah
5. Stephen Williams, Jacoby Ford, Freddie barnes
6.Anthony Wiseman CB Maryland
7. Danny Batten, South Dakota State - DE
Sorry FloridaDanny, I owe you one, I just don't know what it is!!
I think McC has done a decent job at the draft
not so hot in FA.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Yup
It might be fair to say that Scott McC is atleast an average GM.
I’d say he’s at least an average drafter. but I can’t really think of any FA signings he was responsible for that have worked out.
by hellaninersfan on Feb 10, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Not a FA signing in the way we usually define it
He was claimed off waivers but I’m pretty sure McC had something to do with getting him here.
Michael Lewis has been pretty good too.
Dre Bly last year was a good pick up.
I’m not saying he’s good in FA, but I’d say he’s average.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 11:38 PM PST up reply actions
Walt Harris joined the Niners in 2006
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Good question
My other question for discussion is where do you see the defense, where it can improve, and just for kicks, how would you build the ultimate defense with the current players mixed in with draft picks and free agents, despite the offense?
The front seven defenders are most vital to the health of any defense. Given that the ball typically moves around the first 10 yards on any given play, defensive lineman and linebackers, by design, are the first on the scene. Good defenses always have the ‘front lines’ locked down. A good front office operates with the understanding that they are no stronger than the strength of those units. Talented (defensive) prospects being equal, error on the front seven.
The secondary issue has been discussed ad nauseum, and I generally agree with the everyone else’s opinion: draft a coverage safety! I’m kind of happy with Clements, Spencer, Bly and Brown at the corners; though I would be content if the FO drafts who it views as a top tier player. If not, there will be plenty of good corner backs in next years draft (Texas’ Aaron Williams, LSU’s Patrick Paterson).
My secret hope is the 49ers draft Colt McCoy, who slides to the 49th pick. JMO, but I like his release, athleticism and attitude. And McCoy would be asked to sit behind Alex Smith until either Smith can’t perform or McCoy is ready to contribute.
Of next year’s QB prospects, none have yet proven to be a consistant contributer. Jake Locker looks to be the best, but I want to see it from him.
Great quotes and post...
I think the most intriguing thing next season is what will happen if nothing changes offensively, not just what to do with Smith but most importantly will there be a new offensive regime now that Singletary had a taste of the importance of a balanced and creative playbook for offenses in today’s NFL.
Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.
'''' First things first good article can i add on it????????
2 me the dysfunction started earlyier than that hell the garcia days wasn’t lovely eathier some in here may argue we won games then and went 2 the playoffs blah ,blah,blah and thats all we did was go there the next game they sat there as guest themselves i’m not just talking about loseing i’m talking about QBs like garcia ,shall i say mirer yea rick please as soon as eddy .b left my uncle said we f!!cked i wass 13 or 14 so fastfoward now the future looks better and nolan had some hits and misses in the draft and f. a but the offense has been sucking 4 like 5 or 6 years now alex is at fault but i’ll put more then half one the big wigs when we had norv turner should of locked him dwn in a contract he’s won superbolwls as O.C and one of the best play callers behind that coach who just won a superbowl ,maybe not so good as a head coach but we didn’t need that yet lock him down by now we either had alex looking like rivers or would of cut b ait by now like i said in my last comment the niners move slow as hell i know itshit or miss but they miss because olf ineptness whew so yea this is the year 4 all of there asses or be on there asses we got a soon 2 be top 5 def lets get the o rollin so getting the o line coaches thi early and special teams coach was done swiftly and that show theres no time 2 waist you sit on you’re ass that’s were you will end up on i don’t know why they still they have michael robinson 4 WHAT this is a utility BUM anraze battle give him the PURPLE HEART award and bounce his ass roman WTF roman these dudes or sucking up solid spots this i it 4 alex if he doesn’t man up and put up bounce his ass 2 i wanna see if curtis taylor steps up in pre-sea he was pretty good at lsu and has range plus francia he be a real solid DL when he’s motivated but thats a few things i would like 2 see
I’ve already done one of these somone else do it
by hellaninersfan on Feb 10, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
jesus christ, can't you [site decorum] punctuate or SPELL?
Okay, I tried editing it to make it sound as comprehensible as humanly possible.
Too me, the dysfunction started earlier that that. Hell, the Garcia days weren’t lovely either. Some in here may argue that we won games and went to the playoffs, blah, blah. That’s all we did, was go there and in the next game, they sat there as guest themselves.
I’m not just talking about losing—I’m talking about QBs like Garcia, shall I say mirer yea rick.
Please, as soon as Eddy DeBartolo left, my uncle said we fucked. I was 13/14; so fastforward—now the future looks better and Nolan had some hits and misses in the draft and F.A. but the offense has been sucking for like 4/5/6 years. Now Alex is at fault, but I’ll put more than [half one the big wigs???].
When we had Norv Turner, we should’ve locked him down in a contract. He’s won Super Bowls as an OC and one of the best play callers behind that coach who just won a Super Bowl (Sean Payton). Maybe he’s not so good as a head coach, but we didn’t need that, we just needed to lock him up. By now, Alex might’ve looked like Rivers or we would’ve cut bait now.
Like I said in my last comment, the 49ers move slow as hell, i know it’s hit or miss, but they miss because of ineptness. Whew, so yeah, this is the for all of their asses or we (as fans) should be on their asses. We got a soon to be top 5 defense. Let’s get the offense rolling. Getting the O-Line and S Teams coaches was done swiftly and that shows that there’s no time to waste.
You sit on your ass, that’s where you will end up. I don’t know why they have M-Rob. For what? This is a Utility BUM, and as for Arnaz Battle give him the Purple Heart award and bounce his ass. Mark Roman, WTF? Roman (and) these dudes are sucking up solid spots.
This is it for Alex—if he doesn’t man up and put up bouncehis ass too. I wanna see if Curtis Taylor steps up in pre-season. He was pretty good at LSU and he has range. Ricky Jean-Francois—he’ll be a real solid DL when he’s motivated. But that’s a few of the things that I would like to see
Seriously man, lay off the [site decorum] marijuana before you comment here. It makes everyone’s life a lot easier……
Here's hoping 2010 is the end of our drought.
Great read, Drummer.
Wish I had some more to add to it but you covered all the bases. Nice job.
I chose water over wine... Jars of formaldehyde... think of all the things I missed... Why'd you make me a scientist?
Thanks..
I got to hand to you guys who write Front Page articles. This stuff ain’t easy to do, at least for me. Mad props to everybody.
Well, we're waiting....
I agree with both
Great job on the article and I know what you’re saying on the time it takes.
Don't trust this guy. He lies.
Jayjonna415.......
C’mon bruh bruh, we can’t even read that. I always see your posts and start readin em then they start looking like I’m watchin Al-Jazeera network and they’re bout shout, “Allahu Akbar” and cut some American’s head off! lol. I’m interested to see what you think along with the other Niner fans on this site, as I’m sure most readers are. But no one can understand what you’re saying and even if we could, we give up after reading the first few words. Maybe take a second to make it more legible and we’d read it. Not tryin to clown you dog, just sayin we can’t read that.
.500 in 2010
so who’s head rolls if we are .500 or below again next year? then what? i just have no confidence in mccloughan or smith as far as the 2010 season goes.
"There is no pressure. Pressure only exists when you're not prepared."
-The Samurai
Alex Smith is garbage...
Fooch's
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
I can live with that
I’m sure my ever present optimism puts me on the chopping block here.
by David Fucillo on Feb 10, 2010 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
You're on the hot seat.
lol
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 11:39 PM PST up reply actions
I've got an idea ...
Why don’t you find another team to knock, or root for, or both!
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 10, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions
I’d rather use a high pick on an offensive tackle and blow the rest building a defense that will give me a chub. The offense is years away from being explosive, the defense can be great now.
You can’t have one without the other. Besides, your defense could only give up 3 points and if your offense can’t score any, you lose.
The Tim Tebow Story "A Bust In The Making" ...Part 2 Coming After The Draft...Stay Tuned.
The 49ers offense is already filled with young, top draft picks. They will simply get better with maturity. The 49ers current offense consists of four 1st round picks, two 2nd round picks and two 3rd round picks.
Round has zero influence on how they are playing. We need more playmakers and a better Oline to be anything close to even an average offense.
The Tim Tebow Story "A Bust In The Making" ...Part 2 Coming After The Draft...Stay Tuned.
Well
3 of those 4 1st round picks have been playing at a pretty high level.
I’d say it has something to do with their abilities.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 11:40 PM PST up reply actions
Add Spiller and a RT and we can win 6-3
LOL
Mocking.............
1a- traded for Eric Berry
1b- CJ Spiller RB Clemson
2 traded to acquire E Berry
3. Calloway, Selvish Capers, Jason Fox
4. Mike johnson OG, John Jerry, Asamoah
5. Stephen Williams, Jacoby Ford, Freddie barnes
6.Anthony Wiseman CB Maryland
7. Danny Batten, South Dakota State - DE
Sorry FloridaDanny, I owe you one, I just don't know what it is!!
I agree, go for a top 3 defense, but that does not mean ignore the offense.
Mocking.............
1a- traded for Eric Berry
1b- CJ Spiller RB Clemson
2 traded to acquire E Berry
3. Calloway, Selvish Capers, Jason Fox
4. Mike johnson OG, John Jerry, Asamoah
5. Stephen Williams, Jacoby Ford, Freddie barnes
6.Anthony Wiseman CB Maryland
7. Danny Batten, South Dakota State - DE
Sorry FloridaDanny, I owe you one, I just don't know what it is!!
i've been called a lot of things by a lot of people...
but “illustrious” isn’t one of them. :-)
good job drummer.
by (Florida) Danny Tuccitto on Feb 10, 2010 6:42 PM PST reply actions
Drummer
Great read, this was really good, keep it up.
Mocking.............
1a- traded for Eric Berry
1b- CJ Spiller RB Clemson
2 traded to acquire E Berry
3. Calloway, Selvish Capers, Jason Fox
4. Mike johnson OG, John Jerry, Asamoah
5. Stephen Williams, Jacoby Ford, Freddie barnes
6.Anthony Wiseman CB Maryland
7. Danny Batten, South Dakota State - DE
Sorry FloridaDanny, I owe you one, I just don't know what it is!!
I dont remember where I read this but.....
We are in the top 5 in players drafted post 2005 still on the 53 man roster.
Good to know.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 11:41 PM PST up reply actions

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