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Response: Would be disappointed if this is how it actually turned out.

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McShay is an idiot

He had Andre Woodson, a QB that was picked in the 6th round, as a 1st round QB.

1. St. Louis Rams Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma
2. Detroit Lions Ndamukong Suh, DT, Nebraska
3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Jason Pierre-Paul, DE, South Florida
4. Washington Redskins Anthony Davis, OT, Rutgers
5. Kansas City Chiefs Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State
6. Seattle Seahawks Bryan Bulaga*, OT, Iowa
7. Cleveland Browns Eric Berry*, S, Tennessee
8. Oakland Raiders Trent Williams, OT, Oklahoma
9. Buffalo Bills Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
10. Jacksonville Jaguars Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech
11. Denver Broncos Dez Bryant*, WR, Oklahoma State
12. Miami Dolphins Rolando McClain*, ILB, Alabama
13. San Francisco 49ers Joe Haden*, CB, Florida
14. Seattle Seahawks C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
15. New York Giants Brian Price, DT, UCLA
16. San Francisco Mike Iupati, OT/G, Idaho
17. Tennessee Titans Carlos Dunlap, DE, Florida
18. Pittsburgh Steelers Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
19. Atlanta Falcons Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
20. Houston Texans Earl Thomas, S, Texas
21. Cincinnati Bengals Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
22. New England Patriots Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan
23. Green Bay Packers Bruce Campbell, OT, Maryland
24. Philadelphia Eagles Taylor Mays, S, USC
25. Baltimore Ravens Kyle Wilson, CB, Boise State
26. Arizona Cardinals Sergio Kindle, DE/OLB, Texas
27. Dallas Cowboys Nate Allen, S, South Florida
28. San Diego Chargers Jahvid Best, RB, California
29. New York Jets Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
30. Minnesota Vikings Jared Odrick, DT, Penn State
31. Indianapolis Colts Maurkice Pouncey, OL, Florida
32. New Orleans Saints Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

JPP going 3rd overall and McCoy going over Suh just shows you that McShay is the worst mainstream draft analyst

1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker

by supraman on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM PST reply actions  

There is so much wrong with this that I don't even know where to start.

I’m now certain that he just releases random mock drafts to piss people off.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

+1

Although I don’t agree, I thought his justification for McCoy over Suh made some sense. However, dropping Berry to 7 behind Bulaga was sheer idiocy, and I don’t think he has idea on what the Niners need.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Feb 10, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I can’t believe he had Bulaga going so high

Wayne Rooney, 1/27/09: Cometh The Hour, Cometh The Man

by Useful_Idiot on Feb 13, 2010 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

He sees the same thing in Bulaga that I do

He could be the best lineman in the entire draft.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

McShay knows more than you, believe it!

Why are people calling him the worst mainstream draft analyst? Lets not forget that Reggie Bush was a LOCK at the #1 pick, but what really happened. Last year DE Tyson Jackson was picked 3rd overall by the Chiefs, no one saw that comming. What about DHB going to Oakland in front of Crabtree? There is no guarantee that Suh will be better than McCoy. The Texans believed that Mario Williams was a better pick for them than Bush. So call McShay waht you want, but have an open mind when it comes to the NFL draft. Anything can happen, just ask Al Davis!

by ericalancanty on Feb 10, 2010 2:31 PM PST reply actions  

I doubt it.

This guy has a terrible track record.

Who saw Tyson Jackson being picked No.3 overall?
Quite a few people, actually. Mayock mentioned it, the guy on walterfootball.com had him at no.3 once too.
Who saw the Raiders taking DHB?
A lot of people. After the combine a lot of people were mocking DHB to the Raiders.
(the walterfootball.com guy had the raiders taking DHB in his final mock)

I wish someone would archive these mocks so we could look back and see how badly McShay did.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a place that archives them

The Huddle Report

McShay has the 8th highest avg. over the last 3 years.

Owned

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 12, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

His 46 score from last year was #4

1 Rick Gosselin – Dallas Morning News 45.33 43 40 53
2 Clark Judge – CBS Sportsline 45.33 41 40 55
3 Al Fronczak – East Coast Sports 43.67 40 44 47
4 Michael Abromowitz – The Football Expert 42.67 48 43 37
5 Jason Boris – Times News 42.67 44 37 47
6 Mel Kiper jr – ESPN 42.67 43 37 48
7 Ryan McCrystal – Draft Ace 42.33 43 38 46
8 Todd McShay – Scouts inc. 41.67 46 34 45
9 Jeff Mullen – NFL Answers 41.67 41 42 42
10 Jay Glazer – Fox Sports 41.67 36 37 52
11 Robby Esch – The Huddle Report 41.33 43 45 36
12 Scott Wright – Draft Countdown 41.00 43 39 41
13 Mike McCollom – The Huddle Report 41.00 41 38 44
14 John Clifford – Draft Board Insider 41.00 39 33 51
15 Pat Kerwin – NFL.com 40.67 42 39 41
16 Rob Rang – NFL Draft Scout 40.00 44 34 42
17 Don Banks SI.com 40.00 42 40 38
18 Walter Cherepinsky – Walter Football 40.00 39 38 43
19 Chad Thompson – NFL Answers 40.00 34 34 52
20 Brian Fitzgerald – Draft Daddy 39.33 39 37 42
21 Pete Prisco – CBS Sportsline 39.33 39 32 47
22 Drew Boylhart – The Huddle Report 39.00 45 34 38
23 Rob Tribbett – War Room Report 39.00 43 37 37
24 Matt Pitzer – USA Today 38.67 34 37 45
25 Bill Tyler – NFL Draft Forecast 38.33 41 36 38
26 Paul Baitinger – Ask The Commish 38.33 38 37 40
27 Brian Stevenson – Draft Notebook 38.00 44 33 37
28 Colin Lindsay – Great Blue North 38.00 35 39 40
29 Saturdays 2 Sundays – Staff 38.00 35 35 44
30 Robert Davis – Footballs Future 38.00 35 34 45
31 Tommy Lawlor – Scouts Notebook 37.67 40 33 40
32 Harry Away – NFL Talent Experts 37.67 37 33 43
33 The Red Zone 37.67 33 37 43
34 Matt Bitonti – Draft Daddy 37.33 36 41 35
35 Aaron Freeman – The Huddle Report 37.00 43 35 33
36 Greg Cox – The Football Expert 37.00 42 35 34
37 Lou Pickney – Draft King 37.00 34 34 43
38 Matt Alkire – Scouts Notebook 36.33 37 35 37
39 Chris Steuber – Scout.com 36.33 33 39 37
40 Darren Schilling – NFL Draft Spot 36.33 31 40 38
41 Jim Corbett – USA Today 36.00 39 35 34
42 Curtis Popejoy – Draft Board Insider 36.00 32 34 42
43 Forrest Long – Fantasy Football Toolbox 35.67 34 32 41
44 Dan Kadar – Mocking The Draft 35.33 38 29 39
45 Fred Jones – The Huddle Report 35.00 36 32 37
46 Nate Davis – USA Today 34.67 30 33 41
47 NFL Draft Dog – staff 34.33 35 34 34
48 Peter Schrager – Fox Sports 34.33 31 35 37
49 Glenn Bernardi – Draft Daddy 34.00 34 35 33
50 Sean Leahy – USA Today 33.67 37 32 32
51 Joe Russo – Surefire Scouting 33.00 35 36 28
52 Dave Ryan – New Era Scouting 32.67 31 36 31

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 12, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate Davis

lol

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 12, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Nate's moonlighting already

Because that 34.67 could look frighteningly similar to his completion percentage if we let him anywhere near a football without a couple more seasons of grooming.

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Are those the final mocks though?

I’m talking about all the ridiculous Mock Drafts he releases before the final update.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 12, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

AH

Ok yes – These are their final mocks only

Gimme 1 round!

by ItBurnzWhenIP on Feb 14, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I will bet you all the coffee beans in Brazil that Jimmy Clausen goes in the 1st round

1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker

by supraman on Feb 10, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

How many mocks had DHB going in front of Crabtree?

Some Mocks had DHB going to OAK, but that was after Crabs was off the board, no one had him being picked infront of Crabtree. All I’m saying is that the draft is unpredictable.

by ericalancanty on Feb 10, 2010 2:44 PM PST reply actions  

I saw an ex-Raider who used to work under Al Davis pick DHB like his life depended on it.

by bignerd on Feb 10, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

walterfootball.com

They had DHB going No.7 to the Raiders with Crabtree on the board.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 10, 2010 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Walter's mock

The other guy (matt I think) had DHB going to the Raiders.

What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

by SportsChicken on Feb 11, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Iupati

I found it odd that McShay has the Niners taking Iupati in the first when he specifically told Matt Barrows of the Sac. Bee that Iupati would be a reach at either of the Niners first round picks. If he thinks that it is a reach why would he put it in a Mock Draft? Then it dawned on me this morning. McShay has us drafting Iupati because Matt Barrows specifically asked him about the prospects of the Niners taking Iupati in the first round, and maybe he thinks Barrows has a better handle on the direction the team will go. Perhaps an interesting insight into how McShay puts these mocks together.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Feb 11, 2010 6:58 AM PST reply actions  

Anthony Davis over Okung?

I’ve heard everywhere that Okung was indisputably the best OT in the draft….

This draft seems pretty suspect all around.

by brundylop on Feb 11, 2010 11:49 AM PST reply actions  

The Combine

I have heard some rumblings on the internet that some draft experts believe Davis will overtake Okung after the Combine becuase is a better athlete. Sorry I don’t have a link for it though.

Tom will never be as cool as Joe

by wader251 on Feb 12, 2010 1:02 PM PST up reply actions  

No No No.

Davis looks stronger and like a mauler, but Okung is the best tackle. He is has some of the best feet for a lineman and he can equally pass protect and run block really well. He looks like a faster D’Brickshaw Ferguson.

The Ultimate Realistic Mock Draft

1A) Anthony Davis - RT Rutgers
1B) C.J. Spiller - RB/KR/PR Clemson
2) Kareem Jackson - CB Alabama
3) Demaryius Thomas - WR Georgia Tech
4) Mike Johnson - OG Alabama
5) Sean Canfield - QB Oregon State
6) Keaton Kristic - OLB Oregon State
7) Dexter Davis - OLB/DE Arizona State

by Jayd92009 on Feb 13, 2010 12:16 AM PST up reply actions  

although some picks hard to imagine...

I like those two picks… Haden and Iupati… although I would prefer CJ Spiller and Iupati, Haden would help the secondary in a few years or as a nickel back

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Feb 11, 2010 2:49 PM PST reply actions  

I meant: although some picks are hard to imagine...

thinking too fast…

Joe and Steve were under the same system for years... don't expect Smith to be super so soon.

by bayboy on Feb 11, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

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