Niners Sack Tracker, vol. II
This is a breakdown and analysis of the situations in which the Niners got their sacks in the 2009 season. Overall, the team tied for 4th in the league with 44 sacks. My methodology here was the following:
1) search through the game play-by-play recaps for times when the Niners got a sack
2) look up that instance in the game in question
3) Note the time, down and distance
4) Analyze the offensive and defensive formations including the Niners’ personnel
5) Describe the play as it developed
6) Explain why it happened beyond all the flying bodies—i.e. assign praise or blame.
The reason why I wanted to do this was because I wanted to have something other than a nebulous sense of who did what in terms of rushing the passer in the 2009 season. This is volume II: I wrote up a Sack Tracker last year.
I know this is a ridiculously long post, but it did take some effort, so I’ve left some thoughts I was left with at the bottom of the post in the hopes that people will read my analysis--which of course forms the basis for my thoughts. I appreciate the rec’s and the votes in the poll, but I’m most interested in having a good and informed conversation about the Niners’ pass rush in 09 and looking forward.
Let’s dive in!
Week, Home/Away vs. Opponent
Quarter, time, sacker
Down & Distance/Field Position
Opponents’ offensive personnel package and formation, under center or shotgun
Niners’ Defensive Formation (D-Line-left to right, Linebackers, DBs)
(coverage)=sack was due to exceptional down-field coverage: the QB had time to throw
(team)=sack was forced by a player or players who did not get the sack
(blitz/design)=sack was forced by confusion induced by the design of the play or an unexpected blitzer
(individual)=sack took place due to a player’s simply winning the match-up with his blocker
Week 1, Away vs. Arizona, 3 sacks
1)
2nd quarter, 9:45, Parys Haralson
2nd and 10, Ari 11 yard-line
3 wides (2 left, 1 right, rb right (runs to split wide right), shotgun
Haralson, Ray McDonald, Justin Smith, Manny Lawson, 1 LB, 6 DBs
4 D-Linemen rush, McDonald is double-teamed, leaving the other 3 linemen 1-on-1 with their men. Haralson bull-rushes and finally shucks the RT. Warner steps up, but Haralson gets to him. Looked like a coverage sack, but Warner didn’t have anywhere to step up from a deep drop because Smith stayed in his lane. (coverage)
2)
2nd quarter, 0:40, McDonald
1st and 10, SF 33 yard-line
Trips bunch right, slot WR left, RB left, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Patrick Willis, 6 DBs
Straight rush with a blitz by Willis, who is picked up by the RB. Lawson runs the corner on the LT, forcing Warner to step up—straight into the arms of McDonald. Lawson didn’t get the sack, but McDonald owes this one to him; Warner had very little time to throw. The blitz by Willis made the RB commit to blocking him early, which left the other linemen matched up 1-on-1, and Lawson won the battle, forcing Warner to effectively become a running back. (team)
3)
4th quarter, 0:08, J. Smith
2nd and 10, 4 wides, 3 right, 1 left, RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Kentwan Balmer, Smith, LB (Willis), 6 DBs (prevent)
Smith stunts from his RE spot into the spot vacated by Balmer, who takes on a double-team. When Smith stunts inside, the guard doesn’t recover, and Smith gets by him for a free run at Warner. Great play design and great execution: McDonald was doubled by the RG and C, Balmer was doubled by the LG and LT, and Smith took advantage for a game-ending sack. (blitz/design)
Week 2, Home vs. Seattle, 1 sack
4)
1st quarter, 14:20, McDonald
3rd and 7, Sea 25 yard-line
4 WRs, 1 wide right, 1 wide left, two stacked in the slot left, RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Front 4 rush straight, pressure from all angles. The pocket collapses, and when Hasselbeck steps up, McDonald is there and makes no mistake. Not a coverage sack, but the QB looked confused by a lot of pre-snap movement. Lawson took a wide angle, but prevented an escape to the left (where the QB was looking). (team)
Week 3, Away vs. Minnesota, 2 sacks
5)
2nd quarter, 8:45, Mark Roman
3rd and 6, Min 34 yard-line
3 wides, 1 right, 2 left, TE over RT, RB left, shotgun
McDonald, Lawson, Smith, Haralson, Willis, 6 DBs
6 man blitz with the 4 linemen rushing plus Willis overloaded on the right side of the line, and Roman, alone coming from the wide left defensive side. The RB (Chester Taylor) is late coming over to block and gets a free shot at Brett Favre. Delicious. (blitz/design)
6)
3rd quarter, 14:15, Aubrayo Franklin
2nd and 14, Min 25 yard-line
2 WR (split wide), 1 Te, 2 RB (off-set I right), under center
Base 3-4 Defense with all the starters in
Front 3 plus Lawson rush. Lawson forces the QB to the offensive left where the QB plants again to throw. Finally Lawson frees himself from the FB, forces Favre to step up (nearly poking the ball out in the process), and Franklin plants him. Clearly a coverage sack, but Favre didn’t have all day to throw either. (coverage)
Week 4, Home vs. St. Louis, 5 sacks
7)
1st quarter, 1:45, Willis
2nd and 8, StL 12
2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB; Trips bunch right, under center
Base 3-4 defense in with all the starters except Balmer in for Sopoaga
Willis blitzes with the 3 down linemen, then Spikes comes after a beat. The RB comes up to block Willis, but by the time he gets there, Willis is already leaping to take down the QB…which he does. Well timed blitz. (blitz/design)
8)
2nd quarter, 4:06, Takeo Spikes
1st and 10, StL 45
2 WR (left), 1 TE, 2 RB (I-form), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters except Ahmad Brooks replacing Lawson
Spikes blitzes with the front 3 and Brooks. The QB has enough time to make his first read, but soon after, Spikes, Brooks and Smith all free themselves. Spikes gets there first, but had he failed, the QB wouldn’t have gotten away. (team)
9)
3rd quarter, 12:38, Willis/Lawson
1st and 10, StL 17
2 WR (each split wide), 1 TE, 2 RB (FB over LT), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Lawson rushes with the front 3. Spikes covers up the RB after they run play action and Haralson gets the TE in the flat. Nowhere to go with the ball, so the QB takes off, and Willis comes up from coverage to take down the QB with Lawson. A coverage sack, but there wasn’t a ton of time. The Rams committed 6 linemen to block 4 Niners and when nobody came free, the QB’s goose was cooked. (coverage)
10)
4th quarter, 9:24, Dashon Goldson
3rd and 4, SF 22
4 WR (tight), 1 RB right, shotgun
Diryal Briggs, McDonald, Smith, Brooks, Willis, 6 DBs
Both DTs twist to the outside, but no real pass rush is generated. Eventually (after what was enough time to throw), the QB scrambles to his left, goes into a slide by the line of scrimmage and Goldson nearly takes his head off. Coverage sack all the way. (coverage)
11)
4th quarter, 3:14, Willis
2nd and 9, StL 12
3 WR, 2 left, 1 right wide, 1 RB, under center
Balmer, Franklin, Demetric Evans-the 3; Haralson, Scott McKillop, Willis and Brooks-the 4; Base DBs
Willis blitzes the C/LG A-gap, and the RB whiffs on the block. Willis takes him down in an instant. More evidence that the Rams’ O-line was just overmatched here. At this point it’s 35-0. McKillop was there if Willis hadn’t taken him down. (blitz/design)
Week 7, Away vs. Houston, 2 sacks
12)
2nd quarter, 1:10, Lawson
2nd and 10, Hou 38
3 WR, 2 left, 1 right (slot), 1 TE, 1 RB, under center
Haralson, Balmer, Smith, and Lawson, Willis and Spikes at LB, 5 DBs (a 4-2-5)
Bly blitzes from a LOLB position along with the front 4, and when the Texans run play action, Willis blitzes to take the RB. Though Lawson is initially blocked, Bly and Willis get enough pressure on the offensive left side to push Schaub off his spot. Lawson finally gets off his block and Lawson plants him. The sack was created by Willis blitzing and winning his 1-on-1 matchup. The Texans left 7 men in to block what ended up being 5 Niners, so this one goes down as a coverage sack. (coverage)
13)
4th quarter, 8:47, Brooks
2nd and 10, SF 11
2 WR (slot right, slot left), 2 TE, 1 RB, under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Brooks rushes with the front 3, locks up with the LT, but eventually frees himself at almost the same moment as Smith gets off a double-team, forcing Schaub to step back into Brooks’ waiting arms. (coverage)
Week 8, Away vs. Indianapolis, 3 sacks
14)
2nd quarter, 7:40, Franklin
2nd and 5, Ind 38
3 WR (2 right, 1 left), 1 TE (in-line), RB left, shotgun
Sopoaga, Franklin, and Smith-the 3, Haralson, Willis, Spikes, 5 DBs
Haralson runs a wide corner, forcing Manning to step up, Smith also engages with the LT (nearly pushes the LT into Manning) and forces Manning to step up further. Finally, Franklin beats his double-team and throws Manning for the loss. A coverage sack, but Manning did not have a clean pocket. (coverage)
15)
3rd quarter, 14:00, Isaac Sopoaga
2nd and 12, Ind 16
3 WR (2 left, 1 right), 1 TE (in-line), 1 RB left, shotgun
Franklin and Sopoaga down, Haralson, Willis, Spikes and Smith at the line, 5 DBs
Haralson, Sopoaga, Spikes and Smith rush. Sopoaga slips by the C and throws the RG to the ground and plops down on Manning. Franklin not rushing gave Sopoaga a 1-on-1 matchup, and Sopoaga just won it. Manning had very little time to look downfield—not even enough to throw to his outlet guy by the right sideline—who was open. Great job by Soap. Manning also seemed confused by the coverage. (individual)
16)
3rd quarter, 12:30, McDonald
3rd and 4, SF 15
3 WR (2 left, 1 right), 1 TE (in-line), 1 RB, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Front 4 rush, and Willis goes when the RB stays in to block. The RG seems to fall over after McDonald’s initial punch so by the time Manning is loading to get the ball out, McDonald’s arm is in the way. Manning just tucks the ball and takes the sack. All McDonald this time. (individual)
Week 9, Home vs. Tennessee, 1 sack
17)
2nd quarter, 8:20, Lawson
3rd and 9, Ten 27
3 WR (1 L, 2 R), 1TE, 1 RB, Shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Spencer blitzes with the front 4 and Willis. The front 5 are picked up, and the QB has time to set. When he sees Spencer coming from his CB spot, though, the QB tries to spin out of Spencer’s path, which he does successfully—but there’s Justin Smith, who he avoids—but then there’s Lawson, who he can’t avoid. Looked like Vince Young was confused by the coverage or that the coverage was good enough to not unload it on time. Spencer had a free run at him, though, and that turned him into a running back and not a QB. (blitz/design)
Week 11, Away vs. Green Bay 2 Sacks
18)
4th quarter, 15:00, Haralson
1st and 10, SF 37
5 WR (3 R, 2 L), shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
The DTs twist, which makes the RG drop inside, leaving Haralson routes to the QB on either side of the RT. Haralson puts a nasty swim move on the RT and frees himself up to the inside. At this point he looks like a blitzing linebacker—he just accelerates past the RT and takes down the QB for a 13 yard loss. Just a great job by Haralson. To Lawson’s credit, he held up on the offensive left edge, which meant that the QB couldn’t escape to that side, but he wasn’t exactly pressuring Rodgers. (individual)
19)
4th quarter, 9:50, Lawson
3rd and 2, GB 25
1 WR, 2 TE, 2 RB, under center
Base 3-4 with Evans in for Smith (!) and Wilhelm replacing Spikes
The front 3 rush with Haralson and Lawson. Willis rushes, too, taking the back off the play action fake. Lawson runs the corner high (over RT) and forces the QB to step up, and when he tries to escape to the right side, Lawson collapses back down on him for the sack. Evans was also right there. If the ball had come out on the 1st read, Rodgers would’ve been OK, but with the play-fake, it took him a moment to set up, and by that time Lawson was already pressing the pocket. (individual)
Week 12, Home vs. Jacksonville, 6 sacks
20)
3rd quarter, 12:30, Lawson
2nd and 12, SF 17
3 WR, 1 TE (in-line), 1 RB left, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, Spikes, 5 DBs
Front 4 rush. Lawson bull-rushes the LT, who slips when he’s trying to plant and Lawson just burns his way to the QB for the sack and forced fumble. This play pretty well seals the deal (already 17-3), as Justin Smith recovers the ball at the Jags’ 17 yard line. Really nice technique by Lawson, reaching around to David Garrard’s right arm, pinning it and smacking the ball loose. Garrard had very little time to look downfield. (individual)
21)
3rd quarter, 5:53, Evans/Willis
2nd and 10, Jax 35
Trips bunch left, 1 WR right, 1 RB, under center
Evans and McDonald down with Haralson, Willis, Spikes, and Lawson, 5 DBs
Goldson creeps up to the line on the Trips side of the formation, and he rushes with McDonald, Haralson and Evans. Nobody picks up Goldson, who gets a free run at the QB—who spins out of the way at the last moment, but into the arms of Evans and Willis, who had crept into the backfield when the back stayed in to block. This was pressure created by the blitz by Goldson—who seemed to be missed by the O-Line because he cut through the 3 receivers on the line of scrimmage. (blitz/design)
22)
4th quarter, 15:00, J. Smith/Haralson
4th and 2, SF 14
2 WR tight left, 1 TE, 2 RB, under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters, packed in pretty tight
Niners rush 6 (front 3, Haralson, Lawson and Spikes). The back doesn’t see Haralson crash through the line, who gets a grip on Garrard but can’t take him down. Smith frees himself and strips Garrard before he and Haralson take Garrard down and for a 13 yard loss—and recover the fumble fully 21 yards behind the initial line of scrimmage. This was full-scale domination of the Jags O-Line by the Niners rush. The fact that Maurice Jones-Drew is so small meant that he couldn’t see where the blitzers were coming from. (blitz/design)
23)
4th quarter, 4:00, Haralson
2nd and 10, Jax 36
3 WRs (2 R, 1 L), 1 TE, 1 RB, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Evans, Brooks, Willis, 6 DBs
The front 4 rush straight, Haralson swim moves to the inside, and when Garrard steps up because of back-side pressure by Brooks, Haralson makes no mistake and puts him down.
(team)
24)
4th quarter, 3:30, Spikes
2nd and 6, SF 49
4 WR (3 L, 1 R) 1 RB (right), shotgun
Briggs, Sopoaga, Smith, Haralson, Spikes, Willis, 5 DBs
Spikes and Willis rush with Briggs, Sopoaga, and Smith. Briggs and Sopoaga stunt. Spikes simply runs the corner over RT, since the RT is engaged with Sopoaga on the stunt. There was very little time for Garrard to do anything. (blitz/design)
25)
4th quarter, 2:30, J. Smith
4th and 11, Jax 46
3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB (right), shotgun
Briggs, McDonald, Smith, Spikes, Willis, 6 DBs
Somehow Smith gets singled up against the LT and help from the Guard only arrives by the time Smith has punched him away and is making his way to the QB. It was kneel-downs pretty well from this point on. (individual)
Week 13, Away vs. Seattle, 5 sacks
27)
1st quarter, 13:08, Lawson
1st and 10, Sea 22
2 WR (left), 1 TE, 2 RB (I-form), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Lawson rushes with the front 3, coming free off the TE in the offensive right slot either to rush or to pick up the play fake to that side. After a pump-fake by the QB, Lawson pushes the FB back into the QB, frees himself, and takes down the QB. Good job by Lawson (who stripped the ball when he got the sack—the Niners recovered), but it seemed like the line figured Haralson was coming off the offensive left side. (individual)
28)
1st quarter, 3:40, Brooks
3rd and 8, Sea 25
3 WR (2 R, 1 L), 2 RB (each side of the QB), shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Brooks, Willis, Spikes, 5 DBs
The DTs stunt, which gives Brooks space to spin inside on the LT. At the same time as Brooks spins, Haralson frees himself from the RT, forcing Matt Hasselbeck to step up in the pocket—and right into Brooks. Haralson created the initial pressure, but if Brooks hadn’t beaten the LT so soundly, it wouldn’t have been a sure sack. (team)
29)
2nd quarter, 2:00, M. Lewis
3rd and 6, SF 32
3 WR (2 L, 1 R), 1 TE (slot left), 1 RB left, shotgun
Brooks, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Front 3 rush with Lawson and Michael Lewis, and Lewis gets a free run—totally unblocked. Why? Because the LT picked up Lawson, who again came off of Carlson (the TE) in the slot. Lewis also stripped the ball—though the Seachickens recovered. Boo. (blitz/design)
30)
3rd quarter, 3:52, Goldson/Spikes
3rd and 1, Sea 40
2 WR (tight), 1 TE, 2 RB (I-form), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Seattle runs a play-fake off the right side and the QB boots right. Lawson is initially blocked by the TE, but hastens the QB’s sprint to the sideline. Spikes tracks across the formation and pounces when the QB looks to pick up the 1st down with his legs, and he meets Goldson just behind the line of scrimmage. Hasselbeck took a terrific lick at the end of the play, and would’ve certainly just thrown the ball away if Lawson hadn’t been held on the play (making the QB think he could still pick up the 1st). Good coverage, but it didn’t take the QB long to turn into a running back. (coverage)
31)
4th quarter, 14:00, Haralson
3rd and 5, SF 32
3 WR (1 R, 2 L), 1 TE, 1 RB, under center
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Brooks, Spikes, Willis, 5 DBs
Niners rush 4, and the QB has a pocket, but one that’s too small for him to really set up. Haralson and Brooks squeeze the edges, and when Hasselbeck tries to escape to the offensive right side, Haralson collapses back down onto him. Not a ton of time, but the QB kinda stepped up into it. (team)
Week 14, Home vs. Arizona, 4 sacks
32)
2nd quarter, 0:42, Brooks
1st and 10, SF 41
4 WR, (2 each side), 1 RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Brooks, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush 4, Haralson and Brooks each run wide around the corners, but Warner doesn’t step up far enough to avoid Brooks, who pins his right arm and strips the ball—recovered by the Niners. Brooks ran that corner like Dwight Freeney. Seriously—he just made the LT look silly. (individual)
33)
3rd quarter, 5:30, Brooks
3rd and 13, SF 24
4 WR (trips right, 1 left), RB left, shotgun
Smith, McDonald, Haralson, Brooks, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush 3 (Haralson drops), Smith bullrushes the RT collapsing the pocket (while 3 guys block McDonald), Brooks beats the LT again and drags the QB down. The RB should’ve given Brooks a chip, but didn’t manage to do so before going out into the pass pattern. Smith prevented the QB from stepping up, but Brooks again made the LT look silly. (individual)
34)
4th quarter, 8:56, Brooks
2nd and 3, Ari 31
4 WRs (2 stacked slot left, 2 right), 1 RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Brooks, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush 4, Brooks runs the corner, sack and strip. Somebody call the fire department—the LT has been torched. Cards recover the ball, but not their dignity.
(individual)
35)
4th quarter, 8:30, Willis
3rd and 7, Ari 27
4 WR (trips right, 1 slot left, 1 RB left, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush 4 and Willis rushes when the RB stays to block. Lawson presses the LT back into the pocket and basically takes out the blocking RB. McDonald stands up his man, and when the C and RG are occupied by Justin Smith, and the QB steps up, Willis is there to meet him. (team)
Week 16, Home vs. Detroit, 2 sacks
36)
1st quarter, 14:00, Spikes
2nd and 1, Det 44
1 WR, 2 TE, 2 RB (off-set I left), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Wide play-action bootleg right, Niners rush 4 (Lawson drops), Spikes is in coverage against a TE. As the QB is looking at the TE that’s on the line of scrimmage, Spikes just knocks him down (legally, mind you) and then goes after the QB. Must have been good coverage down the field, because the QB only had eyes for the TE that Spikes was covering. Probably a coverage sack. (coverage)
37)
2nd quarter, 14:00, Brooks
1st and 10, SF 44
3 Wides (2 R, 1 L) 1 TE (in-line), 1 RB, under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters except Evans replaces Smith
Niners rush 4 (Lawson drops), Lions run play-action and try to block Brooks with a TE. Brooks runs the corner on him and pokes the ball out, meeting the QB at the deepest point of his (5-step) drop. Stanton had barely started to load his arm to throw when Brooks poked it out, so this one is Brooks all the way. Niners recover. (individual)
Week 17, Away vs. St Louis, 8 sacks
38)
1st quarter, 2:05, Lawson
2nd and 5, StL 37
2 WR (both wide), 2 TE, 1 RB, under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Rams run a bootleg right, and Lawson is in coverage on a TE that’s rolling right with the TE. When there’s nobody open, the QB steps out of bounds in front of Lawson, who gets the ‘sack’. A coverage sack all the way. (coverage)
39)
1st quarter, 1:30, J. Smith, Haralson
3rd and 6, StL 36
4 WRs (3 L, 1 R), 1 RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Lawson, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush the front 4 plus Willis. The pocket collapses when Willis rushes up the middle, which frees Smith, who chases and tackles the QB with Haralson, who collapses from his position locked up with the RT. (team)
40)
2nd quarter, 14:49, Evans
1st and 10, SF 48
2 WR, 1 TE (in line), 2 RB (offset-I right), under center
Base 3-4 with all the starters except Evans replacing Smith
Play-fake right with the RB, but no sooner have they run it than Evans has broken through the line on a bull rush and takes down the QB just as he was trying to unload the ball. The Niners rushed 4 (Lawson dropped), so this one is Evans just beating his man with a sweet arm-over move. (individual)
41)
2nd quarter, 0:37, J. Smith
3rd and 2, SF 20
3 WR (1 right, 2 left), 1 TE, 1 RB right, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Brooks
Niners rush 4, and J. Smith just bull-rushes and punches the LG out of the way. He makes a path for himself to the QB and makes no mistake. Brooks and Haralson had the corners bracketed and McDonald made sure there wasn’t a place to really take off down the field, but Smith was so free that even if he’d tried, Smith would’ve tracked him down. (individual)
42)
3rd quarter, 13:22, J. Smith
1st and 15, StL 32
2 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB (pro-form), under center
Base 3-4
Niners rush 4, the Rams try to set up the screen but before the QB can get it away, J. Smith is all over him. The LG just allowed Smith to penetrate too deep before he released him to get out to block for the screen. (individual)
43)
4th quarter, 7:29, J. Smith
1st and 10, StL 23
4 WR (2 stacked wide left, 2 stacked tight right), 1 RB left, shotgun
Base 3-4 with all the starters
Niners rush 5 (Lawson drops as Willis blitzes). Willis starts inside Smith from a LB spot, but runs right as Smith drops into the A-gap. This confuses the C, who comes off to help with Willis, giving Smith a free run to the QB. Good blitz scheme because they dropped into it just before the snap, preventing any pre-snap adjustments. (blitz/design)
44)
4th quarter, 3:21, Goldson
2nd and 1, StL 44
3 WR (2 L, 1R) 1 TE, 1 RB, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Willis, Spikes 6 DBs
Goldson lines up in a ROLB spot and rushes at the snap with Haralson, McDonald, and Smith. Willis also takes the back, who stays in to block with the TE. Goldson is unaccounted for, and he runs around the LT (who had blocked down on Smith) for the sack. This looked like a defensive adjustment; the Rams were now double-teaming Smith, which automatically freed up the outside rusher…so the Niners sent an outside rusher when they weren’t expecting one. (blitz/design)
45)
4th quarter, 3:15, Bly
3rd and 8, StL 37
4 WR (3 L, 1 R), 1 RB, shotgun
Haralson, McDonald, Smith, Willis, 6 DBs
Niners rush 5 including Dre Bly, who comes off the ball like his pants are on fire. Just as with the last play, the LT was blocking down, so Bly got a free run at the QB and puts a pretty good lick onto him. (blitz/design)
Final Numbers:
Player Sck
Lawson, Manny 6.5
Smith, Justin 6
Brooks, Ahmad 6
Haralson, Parys 5
Willis, Patrick 4
Spikes, Takeo 4
McDonald, Ray 3
Goldson, Dashon 2
Franklin, Aubrayo 2
Evans, Demetric 1.5
Lewis, Michael 1
Roman, Mark 1
Bly, Dre' 1
Sopoaga, Isaac 1
Total: 44
Coverage Sacks=10
Team Sacks=10
Blitz/Design Sacks=12
Individual Sacks=13
Sacks by formation:
Under Center: 18
Shotgun: 26
Player-Specific Impressions:
Manny Lawson: Really showed a lot of improvement this year over last. I was actually quite shocked with how much he improved, both with his bull-rushes and his ability to turn the corner around the Offensive Tackle (even when he didn’t get sacks. He picked up a couple of sacks by pressing the pocket on the corner and then collapsing back down inside when the QB tried to escape. He had many more opportunities than last year, but he’s come a long way from last year (when most of his sacks were paper sacks).
Justin Smith: As we all know, he’s a workhorse. Rarely not on the field and never gives up on a play. The 3.5 sacks he got in the final game against the Rams were well-deserved, but clearly not against the highest level of competition. He was involved in more stunts this year, and that freed him up quite effectively a couple of times. As a pass-rusher he’s almost always a bull-rusher, but that has its advantages, since it prevents the QB from scrambling up the middle.
Ahmad Brooks: If there’s one guy who blew me away this year looking over the tape, it’s this guy. Fully 4 of his 6 sacks were him just torching the Offensive Tackle (i.e. strictly individual sacks), and he forced 3 fumbles on those plays. The Niners didn’t have a guy with his athletic tools last year (I’ll get into Haralson in a moment), which makes me very excited. Amazing burst around the corner, and has a real knack for pinning the right arm and/or knocking the ball out.
Parys Haralson: Haralson had the look of a guy who was going to break out last year, but it didn’t really happen. There were a number of times last year when he ran the corner around the RT from his LOLB spot for sacks, but that didn’t happen this year. He did unveil a pretty nice swim move that got him to the QB, but given that he was in for almost all the plays I watched, I expected more out of him. In fact, I think the Niners would be better off subbing Brooks in for Haralson than for Lawson.
Ray McDonald: He only had 3 sacks all year, but he consistently did a good job of pressing the pocket. Typically, when a "team" sack took place, it was because McDonald was involved. He is very agile for a big guy (which is great for stunts) and uses his hands well. A very solid Nickel DT.
Patrick Willis: Willis registered a career high in sacks this year, and benefitted greatly from what looked like more opportunities to be a blitzer. He often was in the backfield when he went to cover the back on play action and when the back stays in to block, and was thus involved in pressing the pocket. He really doesn’t have any moves other than pure speed for getting to the QB—but that’s not nothing. There were a couple of sacks that were just spectacular precisely because he got there so quickly on the blitz. He does have work to do in terms of hand use and pass-rush moves. Still, 4 sacks out of your MLB is nothing to sneeze at.
Takeo Spikes: a very smart player who is always clear about his responsibilities down the field before taking off for the QB. He wasn’t involved very often on passing downs, and was usually the MLB that drops when P-Willy takes the RB. He did well to get 4 sacks considering how seldom he was involved in rushing the passer.
Play-Calling Impressions:
The play-calling has obviously improved when you add 14 sacks to your yearly total. Two things stood out to me: first, the number of blitz/design sacks. This was the lowest total (of the 4 categories I tracked last season and this) last season, and the second highest this season. By my rough calculation, on the plays that generated sacks, the Niners rushed 4 people 60% of the time, 5 30% of the time, and 6 10% of the time. They sent DBs relatively seldom—maybe about 10% of the time—though when they did, they were quite effective. As noted above, there was more stunting and twisting, but there weren’t very many plays that I saw where a DT or 3-4 DE dropped into coverage—a bit surprising given that J. Smith probably has the skills to do that. Perhaps that’s a wrinkle they’ll add next year. Also, there wasn’t a lot of over-load blitzing. What I did see, though was a lot of movement before the snap. Despite the tendencies I’ve noted, offensive lines were often confused about who was coming—that was the case much more this year than last.
The second thing that stood out to me was the number of individual sacks. This was the second lowest category last year, and the highest this year. Brooks was the star of this show, though Justin Smith was pretty impressive as well.
Final thoughts:
Overall, I feel a LOT better about the Niners pass rush this year than I did last year. The addition of Brooks was a revelation, and that rotation at OLB (Lawson, Haralson, Brooks) is young and has upside. I’d still be up for adding another OLB, since Diyral Briggs looked TERRIBLE when he was in there (very tentative, I don’t know what the team sees in him). I also feel better about the play calling for the reasons just stated. The fact that the pass rush has improved so much suggests to me that the best thing the defense can do to improve at this point is draft some young talent for the secondary—because that will, ultimately, help the pass rush.
Now, questions:
Do you think the Niners’ sack total will go up or down in 2009
Do you think the Niners should select a pass-rushing OLB or Nickel DT (a quick 1-gapper) in the draft, and if so, which round?
Is there a Roderick Green (guy you hate and wish the team would ship out)?
Is there someone you’re excited to see rush the passer in 2010?
And finally, vote in the poll:
This is a FanPost and does not necessarily reflect the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors. It does reflect the views of this particular fan though, which is as important as the views of Niners Nation's writers or editors.
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anybody know how to clean up that HTML gobbledy-gook?
(feel free to delete this comment along with it)
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You can do it yourself. Hit the “Edit” button and go back in to the post. Wait for it to load to the Visual View, then see where the html garbage begins, switch it to html view, then delete that portion. Publish changes and you’re good to go.
Do I get paid for tech support?
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Awesome Post
I actually enjoyed reading this. I’m a pretty big Manny Lawson supporter, and reading this just shows his haters out there that even though 6.5 sacks might not seem like a whole lot, he seems to be very involved in quite a few of the sacks that his teammates end up getting, which is very very nice to see. I’m very much looking forward to Lawson and Brooks(with a little bit of Parys) manning the outside spots this upcoming year, as opposed to Lawson and Parys(with not enough Brooks) as we had this past year. With that said, excellent reading….
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This is a great post grantmp
This is a very good break down and very good idea to do this… excellent work!
I chose Brooks. If he get’s more playing time, he’s gonna go double in sacks I think
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Double-digits I meant
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I agree
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Feb 13, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions
Thanks! Great article!
Thanks for putting in all the research and effort that went into writing this! Excellent work.
I voted for Brooks too. Hope that we consider reversing the Haralson / Brooks roles in 2010; more of Brooks and less of Parys.
by 49erFanSince1950 on Feb 13, 2010 11:39 AM PST reply actions
Great write up grantmp, hopefully this will become an annual thing
I voted other.
Here’s why…
Ahmad Brooks that Arizona game, where he accumulated 3 sacks, was against an injured Gandy and Bridges who was the Cardinals backup LT at the time. Then the 49ers faced the Lions and he got to the QB. Lions will be the Lions.
His other 2 sacks as you said.. one was a coverage sack and the other a team sack.
I know he’s still learning the position and will only get better but I question if Brooks end to the season was either fluke-ish or if he had actually turned the light on.
There are some quality 3-4 OLBs in this years draft. I hope McC can pull the trigger on one of them, because this defense is that and another good DB from becoming dominant.
1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker
We don’t need OLB’s in the draft. I have a hard time seeing us draft one.
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I had a hard time seeing us coming out of last draft without a pass rusher or OL
but we did.
1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker
What does that have to do with needing one or not? We don’t. If we get an old vet in FA, then fine, but to waste a future pick on one would be unwise.
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here's where I'm not sure I agree with you
It’s tough to get ‘old vets’ that are good pass rushers. It seems to me that it would be easier for the Niners to pick up a FA Offensive Guard or Right Tackle (/ducks lightning bolt) than it would be for them to find a FA pass rusher that will contribute significantly. Unless they got Joey Porter (not sure I want that).
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I am not completely opposed to getting a LB in the draft but not spending a high round pick on one.
Also, people didn’t think much of Brooks up until last year… so there can be guys to be found in FA if you are looking in the right places.
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So why am I high on Brooks?
Because he has shown at least as much potential as Lawson to get the classic Dwight Freeney type sack—where you fly around the corner and take the QB down. Lawson did that once last year, and a couple of times this year. Haralson did it last year—twice I think. The Lions may be the Lions, and Bridges may be no great shakes, but I have to question the value of selecting an early-round pass rusher given a) that pass-rushers take time to develop, b) the Niners have 3 guys who all have upside, and c) the fact that they’ve already got 2 guys for 3 spots suggests that a draft pick would take a while to see the field.
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I like Brooks pass rushing more than our other options
My opinions on the other 2 are..
Lawson is serviceable at SOLB
Haralson solid backup
Last year when you had your 1st Stat tracker, I remember Haralson’s sacks were less than impressive. And as it turned out, people’s opinions did overestimate his play in 08’. Brooks obviously has untapped potential going into his 2nd year at WOLB but going into the 2010 season looking at the 49er’s OLBs I see no solidified starters. There are players with a list of question marks over their head.
This upcoming draft is top heavy with 3-4 OLB talent. There’s a history over the last few years, where 3-4 OLB rookies come in and make an instant impact. Our most consistent pass rush shouldn’t be coming from Justin Smith.
As shown in the games where Brooks took on inferior talent the defense was dominating.
1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker
re: overestimating Haralson and Brooks' competition on his sacks
1)I think you may be right about how Haralson was a bit overrated coming into this season (even by the Niners’ brass, which gave him a contract extension). Nonetheless, hustle is definitely an asset in a OLB/Nickel lineman, so he’s good as a rotation guy, and he’s to the point now that he’s decent in coverage, thus he’s a decent option as a starter in the 3-4. I wonder what a guy would have to do in camp to unseat him—that’s my point with a) b) and c).
2) Bridges (Zona’s backup LT) isn’t a full-time starter, but he didn’t get lit up like he did in this game in the other 2 games against Brooks. Also, for him to get himself as free as he did on the “team” sack listed above (#28) was a) impressive—it was almost worthy of being labeled an individual sack and b) against their starting LT (sure, it is Seattle). My point is that none of the other guys the Niners had rush the edge got as clean and quick a release off the edge as Brooks did.
It would be interesting to check the stats on which of the top pass rushers got his sacks against the higher levels of competition, though.
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since Diyral Briggs looked TERRIBLE when he was in there (very tentative, I don’t know what the team sees in him).
LOL
So much for Briggs.
What were your thoughts on Kentwan Balmer?
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Great job
This speaks to a lot of the stuff I’ve wondered about, where the Niners pass job is concerned. Thanks for taking the time to break it down so thoroughly. This is just excellent work.
As far as who to draft, why not a pass-rushing DE? I like Sopoaga, but I think there’s a good bit of room for improvement at this postion, particularly with respect to rushing/pressuring the QB. MacDonald could be that guy, but I think it still makes sense to go after someone with lineman size who can rush the QB.
On who could be “shipped out”, Balmer seems like a pretty easy pick for guy who should be on the bubble.
Seasons will pass you by. I get up, I get down.
Balmer out? Highly unlikely.
Even if he’s only here as a rotation guy, when he was in there on the plays I watched (no there weren’t many), he looked pretty decent—and decent enough to stay on the roster, especially since the Niners invested a 1st-round draft pick on him. He’s actually on a track similar to Sopoaga’s; Sopoaga has only been above the teens (for the season) in Tackles one time in his career. Balmer’s tackle total nearly doubled in 5 fewer games this year (7 last year in 16, 12 this year in 11), and the Niners’ base DEs aren’t in there to get tackles. Also, remember that Demetric Evans was brought in as a base 3-4 DE to back up J. Smith. The team doesn’t really owe Evans anything, and if Balmer continues to realize his potential, it seems more likely to me that they’ll release Evans and not Balmer—simply because Balmer is 7 years younger.
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Responses
Now, questions:
1. Do you think the Niners’ sack total will go up or down in 2009
2. Do you think the Niners should select a pass-rushing OLB or Nickel DT (a quick 1-gapper) in the draft, and if so, which round?
3. Is there a Roderick Green (guy you hate and wish the team would ship out)?
4. Is there someone you’re excited to see rush the passer in 2010?
Answers:
1. I think it should stay relatively close unless there is a major move in FA. It may go one way or another give or take a few, but it will be around the same I firmly believe.
2. Yes, 4th-7th Round… I think we have a very good squad already for the most part. Briggs could emerge this year as well. One more year of the same group could be scary for offenses…they played well together.
3. Mark Roman and Kentwan Balmer
4. Toss up between Brooks and Lawson… have to throw in Justin Smith for good measure.
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Why do you like Briggs? As I note above, he looked terrible when I saw him in there.
Why do you dislike Balmer? He was more of a run-stuffing base 3-4 DE than a pass rusher. He could still develop.
I’m with you on Roman, though.
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Balmer will become solid player but Roman needs to go
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Feb 15, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
Roman needs to go?
All I hang onto is hope.
by bignerd on Feb 16, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kind of lol
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by 49erSalvatrucha on Feb 17, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Briggs: I think I just trust Sing’s judgment.
“With Diyral, he’s young, he has talent and going forward, we just wanted to see it continue to develop,” Singletary said. “Briggs making the roster is an indication we believe in him and the opportunity to get better.”
http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-09-06/sports/17205982_1_cuts-roster-opportunity
Balmer just seems extremely slow and highly unmotivated when I watch him. He could still develop, you’re right but I have a hard time seeing it in him. He could be as good as a Sopoagoa eventually.
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hmmm, I have to differ on both accounts
When I’ve seen him in games (and that wasn’t too often, but still), Balmer worked his butt off (took on a double-team as noted above). Briggs, by contrast, was not playing at game speed and was completely ineffective—a liability, in fact.
Clearly both have room for growth, though.
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Higher expectations
I guess my main issue with Balmer is that he’s a 1st Round pick playing at an UDFA level. I know it takes more time for whatever reason for alot of DL to develop in the NFL, so I guess he has that factor going for him. I just think he looks sloppy at times is all which is not to say I think he can’t get better and live up to that 1st Rounder that we selected him to be.
Briggs on the other hand was an UDFA playing at an UDFA level. So really the only way for him to go is up.
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Coming out of college
Balmer was raw talent. He was a project player that given a few years will continually develop into a good player. Also McC drafted him without a clue whether he would play NT or DE. In the spring of 2008 Balmer was playing both positions, hindering his development that was already expected to take a few years. He has only been progressing since being a full-time DE. As a 3-4 DE it’s difficult to standout(unless you’re Justin Smith. Who last offseason spent a lot of time with Balmer teaching him the position), so for now as long as he’s playing his role correctly in the defense, what else can we expect ?
1.Trent Williams 1.Brandon Graham 2. Syd Thompson 3.Torell Troup 4.Andrew Quarless 5.John Jerry 6.Mike Kafka 7.Quinton Andrews 7.Preston Parker
At this point
I’d have to say it was a bit of an overdraft in my opinion
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Overdraft or not...
a) Balmer was touted as a mid-1st-round pick by most pundits prior to the draft
b) he’s been a solid citizen (not sure what you mean about his lack of effort)
c) he’s behind a good deal of talent (Sopoaga and Smith).
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d
it takes an average of 3 years for a player to come in the league and get a starting job at NT. I haven’t done the research on DE yet but I imagine it’s pretty similar.
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2.5 years for LDE, 2.8 years for RDE
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Balmer
I like Balmer. He’s got a great motor. He never gives up on plays, unlike Sopoaga. His big problem is situational awareness. I’ve been going back through this season focusing on the defensive line, and I’ve noticed that he’ll get great penetration but he’ll be so focused on getting the penetration that he’ll blow right by the RB. If he can get that fixed I think he’ll do a great job.
Sopoaga stands there and most of the time just plays patty-cake with the offensive linemen while he decides what he wants to do. Haralson is better suited to a DE in a 4-3 than an OLB in a 3-4 in my opinion. Smith is a monster of course. He stays in all the time, even on the nickel and dime packages.
Ray McDonald had a good start to the year—constant pressure in passing situations. I’m not sure why he’s not starting instead of Sopoaga.
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If we started Ray over Soap
how much do you think our rush/pressure would improved?
by ChesapeakeBay9er on Feb 16, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
3-4 vs. Nickel packages
Starting Ray as a 3-4 DE is probably not a good idea because the skill set is more different than you think. Much of the time, “playing patty-cake with the offensive lineman” is what you want in a 3-4 DE—because if you get turned, you can be taken out of the play, and then the O-Lineman you’ve turned loose can get to the next level and a 2-yard gain turns into 12.
Ray is great as a Nickel DT, because he’s quick and penetrates in a way that Soap doesn’t. But correlatively, Soap is great at 2-gapping and collapsing the pocket in ways that Ray isn’t.
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Compare Sopoaga to Justin Smith
I get what you’re saying—you don’t want to push so hard that you’re past the play and get burned which Balmer does, but you want to actually apply pressure too which Sopoaga doesn’t. I look at what Smith does on the other side and drool about the idea of having someone like that on the other side.
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I think it would increase signficantly
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What?
I like Balmer. He’s got a great motor. He never gives up on plays, unlike Sopoaga
Balmer gives up A LOT
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Disagree
He gets burned because he’s not got the best situational awareness but in rewatching the games he’s never given up on a play, unlike Sopoaga.
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Well I’d have to agree to disagree cause I have seen the complete opposite of what you’re stating.
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If you want I can go play-by-play through the games I've watched so far
I didn’t pay much attention to him during the season but like I said I’m rewatching the games right now to get an idea of how our backups are doing.
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Unless you are posting footage it would just be your word and your perception. I watched the games and I know what I saw.
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If I can figure out how to do some video capture
I will.
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I don't see the motor either. unless we're talking power wheels for pre-k
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I thought Ray was a RDE
Not sure if it’s any different than LDE.
He also has injury issues and the team doesn’t want to rush him into the lineup (with the ACL issues an all).
He is also, primarilly a pass rusher, so I don’t know if he’s better than Soap in run support.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 16, 2010 11:05 PM PST up reply actions
Beginning of the season he played LDE almost exclusively
haven’t rewatched the whole season yet.
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Odd
He’s listed as the main backup behind Smith (RE) isn’t he?
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by SportsChicken on Feb 16, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
I don’t think it matters though because I’ve seen Lawson and Haralson on both sides during pass rushes. I think Manusky likes to mix things up that way.
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Good to know.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 17, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
its kinda the same as on offense
LDEs stop the run, the RT they’re across from run blocks
RDEs rush the passer’s blindside and LTs pass protect.
by hellaninersfan on Feb 17, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Soap isnt that talented, and I want to call Balmer a bust now and get it over with.
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Soap is what he is:
a run-stuffing DE that holds at the point of attack. Better than Ronald Fields was, though probably not quite as good as Marques Douglas was when he was with the Niners. I’m not sure about Balmer’s ceiling, but right now his floor isn’t that much below Sopoaga’s.
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Florida Danny
Proved that Soap was not good at stopping the run.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 16, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions
This makes no sense
It has already been proven above that Balmer was playing better than Briggs.
So how could both be playing at UDFA level?
I’d say Balmer’s play was below average, while Brigg’s was terrible.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 16, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions
That makes zero sense
and more importantly…how do you figure?
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You're saying Briggs played better (as good as) than Balmer?
Prove it.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 17, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Where did I say that? Better? Pretty sure I said the same. Prove what exactly?
It’s such a small smaple size for both does it even matter one way or another?
BUT, since you asked, Briggs has 2 tackles in 2 the 2 games he actually saw time in as to where Balmer had 12 in 8 games he played in.
Briggs = 1 Tackle a game
Balmer = 1.5 Tackles a game
Look out!!! Balmer is miles ahead of Briggs!!!
I don’t get the banter sometimes with you. Argue to argue.
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One was drafted in the 1st Round and expectted to produce and one wasn’t drafted at all and hasn’t really had a chance to showcase what he’s all about.
It has already been proven above that Balmer
How so? I just “proved” that neither one are really significant.
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What your "Balmer's a bust" logic doesn't take into account:
as Maiocco mentions, D-Linemen take a long time to develop. And particularly ones that were raw coming out of college. When he was drafted, Scouts Inc. said “he’s a developmental prospect”.
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What does that prove?
Some linemen never produce. I know that Dlinemen take a bit of time to develop but that certainly doesn’t mean that is true in every case either. And it doesn’t mean that Balmer will either. Sometimes “developmental prospects” don’t pan out.
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But to say that Balmer is playing like an UDFA is wrong.
grantmp said that he saw good things from Balmer.
smileyman said that he saw some good things from Balmer.
However grantmp said Briggs was horrible.
How can both be on the same level?
I know Balmer has not lived up to expectations, but to say he’s as good as an UDFA is just not true.
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by SportsChicken on Feb 18, 2010 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah he is
He’s gotten blown up on runs more than once. Truth is we don’t have any really solid options at LDE. Balmer is unproven, McDonald is good in pass situations, but not quite good enough to start. Sopoaga is starting almost by default.
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thanks for the post grantmp
Balmer will be fine..IF (a big one) he continues to work and develop..He needs to beat his one on one matchups and pressure the qb as well as be in position to stop the run.
I think he looked alot stronger and quicker last year..as you pointed out his production level was as good as Soap’s and he is younger..
One area that will improve our line pressures/sacks will be when we get a more dynamic safety along side of Goldson. A speedy safety that can fake blitz and still make it back to double team the long ball as well as blow up the run/running back’s block will make a BIG difference.
Last point..props to D.C. Manusky for all the “scheme” sacks..imagine coupling it with a Brooks/ F.A. individual monster year and next year could be extremely awful for opposing qb’s!
great work as usual
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Hey grant
wanna do one of these for INTs too? It’d be interesting to do a comparison of sacks vs INTs and see how much our up front pressure helped out.
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You're saying the INTs forced, right?
That would be very interesting—definitely worth the work.
Now, about the time required…
Seriously, I might be able to get it done before the draft; it is on the same theme.
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If you want I can take it on
I’m not working right now so I’ve got lots of extra time on my hands.
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Do you have...umm...access to...ummm...NFL Rewind?
If you’re looking for one, the bigger project (listed by Connie Mack re: sacks allowed) would be worth doing.
This could be a (very) occasional feature: “Panning for…Sacks” or “Panning for…Int’s” etc…
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I love NFL Rewind
been subscribed to it all year. I might make it a part of my Wednesday posts—good idea there grant.
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Turns out you don't need NFL Rewind for the INT project.
I’m on that one. Should be good.
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we could also do something like this for when we got sacked, assigning blame. it would be a little more negative, but still interesting.
by hellaninersfan on Feb 17, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
A couple more suggestions for you grant
1. could you do one of these for all 3rd and longs?
A lot of those plays resulted in converted firsts, I would like to see an analyses of the pressure on all those plays.
2. could you do one of these from the OL’s perspective on all the sacks given up?
I think you really add a lot to this community, thanks for your efforts
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All 3rd and longs? Sorry, but I don't think so.
That’s the kind of thing that’s better addressed by looking at the advanced stats provided by Football Outsiders. It would take waaay too long.
Last year I only had to look up 22 plays, this year it was double that. I’ll be thrilled if the Niners get 60 sacks next year, but not as far as the work involved in this post is concerned.
The reason I would consider doing the INTs would be because it’s a manageable total (18 for the team).
I might be able to get to the sacks, but the odds are a bit long for that at this point.
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maybe next season as a weekly feature,
this would be very high quality original content from the Niners nation blog
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