Dashon Goldson and future 49ers contracts
by David Fucillo (Fooch) on Feb 2, 2010 11:45 AM PST
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The news broke in the last couple days that Julius Peppers was likely going to hit the open market as an unrestricted free agent with a big time price tag. In the Peppers FanPost that went up yesterday I made a comment that I'd prefer to spend that kind of money on re-signing the assorted big free agents the 49ers will have in the coming seasons. There was some agreement with me, which is always nice, and also fairly logical (at least in my opinion).
In a post that would fall under the category "Great Minds Think Alike," MM wrote about a similar topic as far as the 49ers need to re-sign some of their young players approaching free agency. Of course, Patrick Willis and Vernon Davis were the first two mentioned. He also mentioned guys like Manny Lawson and Dashon Goldson next year, potentially Josh Morgan, and maybe Frank Gore depending on your thoughts about running backs approaching 30. He even pointed out the fact that Alex Smith is in the last year of his restructured deal, and if he takes a big step forward, the money might have to flow to him as well.
I wanted to look specifically at Dashon Goldson for now. Over the weekend, MM reported that Goldson switched agents and is now represented by Drew Rosenhaus and Rosenhaus Sports Management. For those not keeping track, Rosenhaus now represents seven members of the 49ers: Goldson, Frank Gore, Jason Hill, Moran Norris, Demetric Evans, Marcus Hudson and Chilo Rachal.
The gut reaction is to shake your head and say "Oh No." After you've gotten that out of your system, don't forget that in representing Frank Gore, Rosenhaus quickly locked up a 4 year deal the season after Frank the Tank set the franchise rushing record. Gore was in a great negotiating position, but the 49ers, Gore and Rosenhaus were able to work out an extension that benefited all parties involved (paying Gore, cap-friendly for the 49ers). Furthermore, Rosenhaus has always said he'd prefer his players get to camp while he works on a deal, rather than hold out. Obviously players still hold out, but it's certainly something to keep in mind.
In looking at the various 49ers coming up in free agency (list is after the jump, based on Maiocco's list), Goldson has to rank fairly high on the list of guys you want to re-sign. Aside from Davis and Willis, Goldson might rank as high as anybody. Yes he has his weaknesses on the field, but he took a big step forward in 2009. I'd imagine if the 49ers intend to extend him, it will happen after they make their free agency and draft moves. There is some debate as to whether Goldson should be moved to strong safety. I don't know if that plays into the 49ers decision at this point, but it's worth keeping in mind.
At this point, do you wait on extending Goldson? If the NFL ends up with a cap-less year, I remain convinced some teams will use that to front-load contracts to young stars. Assuming a labor deal gets worked out that includes a cap long term, those teams could suddenly have a ton of space after 2010 because of those front loaded deals. There are certainly budget issues for each team to consider, but it's one thought.
Scheduled free agents this year (15)
Shane Andrus (EFA), David Baas (RFA), Arnaz Battle (UFA), Dre' Bly (UFA), Ahmad Brooks (RFA), Thomas Clayton (EFA), Aubrayo Franklin (UFA), Walt Harris (UFA), Marcus Hudson (RFA), Tony Pashos (UFA), Mark Roman (UFA), Ricky Schmitt (EFA), Barry Sims (UFA), Jeff Ulbrich (UFA), Matt Wilhelm (UFA).
Signed through 2010 (15)
Diyral Briggs, Isaac Bruce, Vernon Davis, Demetric Evans, Dashon Goldson, Jason Hill, Shaun Hill, Manny Lawson, Ray McDonald, Brit Miller, Chris Patrick, Alex Smith, Takeo Spikes, Derek Walker, Tony Wragge.
Signed through 2011 (10)
Frank Gore, Eric Heitmann, Josh Morgan, Joe Nedney, Moran Norris, Chilo Rachal, Reggie Smith, Adam Snyder, Cody Wallace, Patrick Willis.
Signed through 2012 (12)
Kentwan Balmer, Glen Coffee, Nate Davis, Ricky Jean-Francois, Andy Lee, Michael Lewis, Scott McKillop, Michael Robinson, Isaac Sopoaga, Shawntae Spencer, Delanie Walker, Curtis Taylor
Signed through 2013 (5)
Tarell Brown, Nate Clements, Parys Haralson, Brandon Jones, Justin Smith
Signed through 2014 (2)
Michael Crabtree, Brian Jennings
Signed through 2017 (1)
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I think it's hilarious that Staley's signed
through 2017
i thought that too
when was his last deal done? what was it for? 10 years?!?
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
peppers made it very clear last year that he doesnt want to play end anymore. he wants to play linebacker. he has the speed and strength to do it but it’s a big gamble. id rather have seymour who has already played end in the 3-4 and is happy with that role.
im gonna be all up on you like a spider monkey!
by remembering9ergods on Feb 2, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions
wow
I forgot Bruce is signed for another year. We have some guys we need to figure out what to do with this year but obviously following the 2010 season is when we’ll have a lot of big decisions to make
A hearty thank you to Rich Aurilia for all the good memories, and to the Niners for finally getting the uni's (mostly) right.
bruce will retire
i’m almost positive of it. The rest of the guys with a year or so left could be let go if it’s an uncapped year, without a cap hit.
"If I were to walk down a dark alley in a bad part of town, I'd want Ray Brown with me. And if I were to have a nice dinner at a fine restaurant, I'd want Ray Brown with me." The Late Great McKittrick
I don't think we will do any extensions until we know what's up with the CBA
If no CBA, I’d front load EVERY deal with no Salary Cap to set myself up for the future. Plus, with a lock out possible, I don’t think teams want to have $90 million or whatever it is on the books with no revenue coming in.
Wow
There are a lot of guys in the 2010 group that I’d like resigned.
Juan Carlos Perez, please start hitting.
Niners off season moves
Resign Baas, Bly, and Sims. Tender Brooks a mid-level RFA contract. Extend VD and Goldson, See how the rest of the 2010 class does before offering them extensions (some of them will be RFAs so it’ll be easier to retain them if we want to).
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Assuming a new CBA is reached
something like $53 million (depending on roster moves during FA of course).
Without a new CBA there is no salary cap
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
Wow thats a lot
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Feb 2, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
Don't quote me on that because that number is from before the season
I’m sure it’s different now but we’re in a really good place money wise.
Yes Drew K, Tim Tebow will probably get picked in the first round.
The Prophecy Is......
The niners could be fully primed to be dominant in the secondary, with the addition of an NFL ready SS such as Taylor Mays. The secondary needs an upgrade at 2 of 4 positions, CB, and SS. Haden will be long gone by the 13th pick, even at the 16th pick Kyle Wilson from Boise State would be too much of a reach. With having two first round picks San Francisco could help sure up the secondary, while also adding a book end tackle to tandem with Staley. (till 2017). My first thought was that SF should draft a Tackle and then the dynamic Golden Tate (my pick for OROY 2010). However, the tempation of getting a 4 yr, proven, dynamic, hard hitting SS, from USC, sounds to good to be true. I’ll be the first to say it, he could be the second coming of Ronnie Lott. Now, tell me you wouldn’t pick Ronnie Lott with the 13th pick of the draft. Goldson, Willis, and Davis, are very high priority for re-sign. Not in that order of course. These three young players are starting to show why Mike Singletary was the right man for the job.
Ummm…………. Ronnie Lott could cover though lol. Rather trade up for Berry and then trade down donw to take a guard or tackle.
49ers Al Grito De Guerra!!! hahaha
by 49erSalvatrucha on Feb 2, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Mays proformed terribly at the senior bowl
ESPN scouts say his stock fell due to the same problems he showed in college (not wrapping up, poor decisions in coverage, bad angles) throughout his playing time. I know this guy is a freak physically but I tend to prefer a player that has a stronger grasp of defensive fundamentals coming into the NFL than Mays does.
TRADES????
LETS TALK !! HERE IS THE FACT OF THE PICTURE: GET RID OF THE BUST BALMER AND SOPOAGA AND BRING IN PEPPERS OR SOMEONE THAT CAN GET TO THE QB!! GOLSTON CAN MOVE TO STRONG SAFTEY AND BRING IN ATOGUE FROM THE RAMS OR EVEN THE AGEING REED FROM BALTIMORE OF HE IS AVAILABLE. IN THE DRAFT I AM LOOKING FOR A STARTING OT AND A G…..BUT THE INTRIGGING PICK IF HE IS THERE IS CJ SPILLER FROM CLEMSON. HE IS A RUNNING BACK,RECIEVER, PUNT RETURNER AND A KICK OFF MAN AND THE 49ERS NEED SOMEONE ELSE WITH SPEED ON THE OUTSIDE AT WR.THAT WILL GIVE THE 49ERS THE BEST 3 ON THE TEAM WITH CRABTREE, MORGAN AND SPILLER. THERE IS NOTHING BUT A HUGE UPSIDE TO THIS GUY AND HE HOS NO CRIMINAL BAGGAGE TO LOOK OUT FOR LIKE THOMAS AND OTHERS THAT MEL KIPER WANTS US TO DRAFT!!!!
You're funny.
What we've got here is a failure to communicate.
by chikmagnet_565 on Feb 3, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
This is hilarious. Especially considering the niners play 3-4 and it’s more on the OLB to get to the QB, not the DL. Don’t like Peppers making the switch late in his career. Reed is potentially retiring and we’re better off getting a player with upside later in the draft. Please lay off the caps lock as well, it hurts my brain.
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